It just breaks my heart to see such beautiful focal speakers get installed that way from the other shop because it's so bad that it's a crime. They could've used at least stinger fast rings and the correct sound deadener to eliminate midbass cancellations. Also, they should have done completely away with mutilating the door card with a saber saw and use MDF baffles haphazardly screwed onto the door card. It's much simpler and a lot better to just replace the factory speaker with abs plastic speaker rings specifically made to adapt a proprietary mounting pattern to a standard 6.5 inch mid/woofer.

I just dealt with a install last night that was a nightmare. Single woofer install in a bmw x5. I sold the amp and woofer two weeks ago to the customer and told him to hit me up for when he wants to setup an appointment to install it. Called me last night whinning and complaining about the woofer so I said come let me see it. I checked out the horrible install then did and I come to find out they charged him 375 dollars!! It was literally a half hour job the batteries already in the trunk so you can imagine how little work was involved. I can’t believe what these shops do and rob customers

Finally a video from you that makes me feel better about my personal install ability. I know it wasn't your work in the video (obviously), but I'll enjoy this moment regardless. Well, until your next video reminds my what an amateur I am. 🤣🤣🤣

Wait till this guy gets his van back after they finish the install. He’s most definitely going to have that permanent smile on his face that he just can’t seem to stop.

Peter I can’t say enough about my ibus twins in the Orion, you tuned them so well people are always blown away by them. The person who owns this vehicle will be totally amazed by them as I am. Again another inspirational video. 👍🔊

@pssound9749

2 жыл бұрын

Hang on, have u found a buyer already?? 👀

@tonypoulton2449

2 жыл бұрын

@@pssound9749 no I mean the person who has the car your building lol

@dc5001

2 жыл бұрын

@@pssound9749 how does the focal isub twin, compare to the focal 8wm utopia m mids under the seats?.

Those isub twins are definitely something to consider for me as I have nothing under my seats as it’s a golf. Definitely gonna look into them a little more. Thanks for introducing me to these great products.

I just installed the Focal PC 165FE in my rear doors. Amazing sound from the rear. Can't wait till the front PS 165 FSE are done. All running from a Soundstream Picasso amp.

That Focal BAM "deadener" is actually meant for noise isolation, it's not great at damping. Shame it was used so carelessly in this install because it's expensive stuff.

"It could be here, it could be there... it could be anywhere..." 😅😅 👍 (tweeter part 6:30 ) 😂

@pssound9749

2 жыл бұрын

😂😂

Seeing this kind of crap makes me sad but also makes me feel better about my shitty DIY install which is still 100 times better than that...

Thanks for the video, great video as always!

A lot of install shops are horrible. I’ve only seen one shop do a decent job, at the time I was young and the install was clean. Couldn’t see the wires other from the amp into the rear seat. I thought, if I paid a shop to install I would get the same. Nope would have done a better job if I did it myself, which I did fix the wiring and cleaned it up. I found they used a cheap LOC and the system never sounded good, I even took out the sub for 6 months, it gave me a headache from the distorted bass. I ended up getting a Audio Control Pro LOC and what a difference! Clean and the bass blends in with the speakers. I don’t think I’ll trust another audio shop again.

That’s terrible to see but we pull jobs like this apart most weeks of the year and have to fix them up. Lots of them much worse than this. It breaks my heart and does absolutely nothing for the industry. Can’t wait to see the finished install. Thanks for sharing Peter

I went through that myself and its not nice. To spend so much money, to be so excited, and then find that the install is crap. Luckily I found a proper installer that sorted everything out. Money spent twice, but way more peace of mind. I hope this video helps someone so they dont make the same mistake and go to a proper installer (like you) the first time

les bons professionnels n'affichent jamais publiquement les défaillances des autres , ce n'est pas leur rôle ni leur responsabilité .

@pssound9749

2 жыл бұрын

English please. 🙏

Can't wait to see it fixed up

Really good content man 👌

That's shocking....how do some people sleep at night knowing they charged for this..🤦‍♂️

Man I just found your channel and I like it so far but man you would not believe the amount of times I have seen this crap as a 20 year installer in the USA and no lie this is probably the best of the shitty installs I have seen here

That was a Horrendous install in that van

With this video your client can request a refund and more. If the installer see's this video you should be ashamed of yourself.

Thanks Peter, great video. What about that Focal amplifier he got in the first place...what's your opinion on the FPX line of Focal amplifiers SQ wise?

Nice vid Peter I know what you guys have to deal with Been there done that many times

Great video, I have a b7 rs4 saloon and I’ve run jl audio c2 comps 6.5 in front doors, running active from one of the super little kicker key 180.4 amps x over at 80hz. In the boot are 2 alpine swe815 subs (they are removed from standard enclosures and I built stealth boxes on each side of the boot) system sounds super to me but as a drummer I wonder what a pair of I subs under the front seats would do for my system?…..

i as second income do installs. small or large projects. i always show customers pictures along the build.

That Focal amp fits perfectly inside that pocket. Quite neat actually. Too bad the installation is done rubbish..

This shat blows my mind. How could a shop do this and feel it’s ok to charge for it. 🤯

I feel like even a novice with a bit of passion and a screwdriver+hammer combo could've made a better job than this. I am by no means experienced in installs, but my god they butchered this one...

This was probably installed by a shop similar mechanic who recognizes a customer that doesn't know anything about how to fix their own car, they smell blood in the water and will completely rip them off. Obviously this owner doesn't know enough about car audio to notice the install was so terrible. (not saying it's the owners fault, but the shop must have sensed this was a person they could get away with a terrible job)

hahaha, what a nightmare indeed! Love the new equipment!

The amount of time this shop in France spent butchering this install they could have done it correct. They obviously do not have the correct equipment in routers and proper installation equipment. Like most installers they start off with good intentions but become overwhelmed of the time it takes them make things beautiful. Looks like a two man team that knocked it out in a time crunch in a day in a 1/2…It probably sounded good enough to get payment then problems piled up over the next month with the sub not working etc…The shop that did the install gave him the run around with pushed off dates to correct until the customer says forget it….Installation is everything in car audio. See references and sit in customers cars & not the installers car for a demo….God Bless & Best of luck on the next build…

I wonder how good that driver would fair playing lower midbass with 6.5” door speakers still being utilized for lower mids, like a makeshift 3-way system utilizing 2-way component 6.5” as the midrange…do you think it would have less rattle and better sound reproduction than just using the 6.5” as midbass/midrange in a standard 2-way component setup?

Sweet video peter , been awhile , but like the content , I have a set of ground zero 28 sq tweeters coming, the frequency is 2500 hz to 25k, I am going active soon, but I am looking for a really good cap ,do you have any recommendations at all, a good brand ,and great sq , if not that's cool, still live the sbow

WOW that sub box is impressive!! Sure- just cover it up with a Focal driver, no one will ever ask! 🤣🤣🤣

Wow that power cabling 😯

now, this may be the perfect solution for my install. I have a jeep grand Cherokee and I run 6x9 midbass drivers in my door, but regardless of what I do, it stills rattles, this would allow me to get superior midbass minus the rattle. I think I could fit a pair of these under each seat. Now, what mids were you referring to in regards to performance to match the Focal Be but cheaper?

@pssound9749

2 жыл бұрын

Steg MSS3, Micro Precision 5 series, etc.

The ever popular "semi sealed" woofer box..lol...I'm amazed at the work that I see that supposed to be pro shops do....there are plenty of "hack" installers out there ...sometimes the customer helps facilitate a crap install..either cheaping out on price or amount of time they want install done in...I explain to customer that they are wanting me to cut corners or do hurry up job and say thank you but...I'm not going to do that car if you don't have time or money to do it correctly...and every once in while they come back and want me to look at power slam install another shop did and that's always the best part...they wind up spending more and taking more time to get car fixed.....priceless lol..

This is the literal definition of all the gear and no idea

It's the gift that keeps on giving.

Hi Peter, do you think those Focal isub twins would work well in a van scenario underneath the driver and passenger seat bases and then eliminate the door speakers and go for a mid and tweeter a pillar build? Always love your approach bud.

@pssound9749

2 жыл бұрын

They are not really a midbass, rather a kicksub. They need a very capable midrange install that can play down to 150Hz with confidence.

I had a huge rise at 150hz, from my front door midbass. Sounded horrible. An eq adjustment later and all was well.

The tweeter bracket is for time alignment adjustment. 😆

Painful to see such work. You have to be good to do finish work. You cannot hide bad work like this. Installers are a rare breed. It's not a DIY thing because you have to be good at a wide range of skills. Some things look easy but actually doing quality work you can charge top dollar for takes serious craftsmanship.

Peter: one question: In that kind of family cars, than usually have a big glove box or hole just above front seats, in front of driver and codriver's heads, have you ever tried to fit a sub (obviously properly fitted) inside this hole?. Thanks!

@pssound9749

2 жыл бұрын

No, not yet. I don’t see much point of it either as cabin gain would be low from that location quite possibly.

@GWRWER

2 жыл бұрын

@@pssound9749 Thanks Peter. I like your answer "not yet". 😁

I like your videos!

That Helux sub looks almost identical to my Addictive Audio 12” SQ sub.

@pssound9749

Жыл бұрын

All the soft parts can differ and that makes all the difference though.

The specs for the Focal ISUB Twins is 50 -150 Hz. But it sounded like you were using them as a mid bass in this build up to 200 Hz, How low would you expect a typical mid driver to play down to? My Focal 3W2s wont get that low :( Love the vids btw Peter... PS are you still planning to hold the tuning classes you spoke about earlier in the year?? cheers Aussie Phil

@sicklaser

2 жыл бұрын

Aussie aussie aussie!

@pssound9749

2 жыл бұрын

We’ll see how high they play in this car, but it will certainly be better than a plastic, rattly door, i can put my head on it! Yes, the training course is not forgotten, we’re just too deep down under water with all the work atm. 🤦🏻😢

Judging by the two 30 amp fuses on the amplifier they could have used 4 gauge cable instead of what appears to be 1/0, or 1/0 to 4 gauge adapter lugs.

this just hurts.

24:16 Just bought a 2 pack of those lights... Sorry, torches, Haha

So having the speaker pods on the door card is bad?

Hey Peter. I was watching a video of yours and I heard that you have a degree on acoustic. So I wonder what did you do before doing ps sounds.

@pssound9749

2 жыл бұрын

I “was” a live sound engineer. Covid put an end to that, but it’s actually better this way, Pssound is my home. ❤️

@chrisN80

2 жыл бұрын

@@pssound9749 the is so cool. So what did you do as engineer. You should make a video about it. Also thank you so much for taking your time and making the videos. I appreciate it. 👍👍

JEEZ....I could have done better as a novice than that abortion of an installation! 😖 Glad to see they're at least in good hands now. Look forward to seeing the rebuild by you guys. 😊

That car was defaced by the installation shop. This is beyond shameful.

Sliding tweeter mounts huh? Adjustable time alignment? lol

how do people have the audacity to think its acceptable to charge for the shoddy workmanship

I really don't like talking bad about other "pros", but I must say that install is embarrassing.

Often the customer’s fault. How many people know where their spare tire or repair kit is? Many treat the interaction with a “pro” the same way - just too insecure to admit what they don’t know and ignorantly nodding to anything. This is an open door for these scammers so, to me, those who refuse to become informed deserve this level of install. Many balk at labor prices and ask for a deal on install if they buy certain components. A race to the bottom!

4:20 My luck some coins would fall out of my pocket when I was driving and land right on the positive and negative cable and light the whole car on fire

Was the Helix sub a Q 12W?

@pssound9749

Ай бұрын

Yes, it was. Unfortunately Helix discontinued it many years ago. 🥲

SHOCKING!!!!

Jesus, how can people even charge money for such a garbage install? I think the shop had a sing "Kindergarten" over the entrance :D

That looks like every 3000 dollar install I have ever seen here in the states. Thats why I cant stand the shops and do all my own work. Plus all they sell here is JL. LAMEO.

OMG....I work on this at home like an hobby and i have a bloody router......Can i work with you Peter??? I'm Portuguese..., so i may do something that we call "desenrascar"....But, it would be better then 5 star michelin....

2 12s under 1000w seal box doing hair tricks amagine that my 3 jl13w7s would be shattering my windows

Interesting build 😂

I don't know how someone could charge $3,000 for the install and sleep at night. Pretty much theft.

Adjustable tweeters, sub, amp and.....just seen to 6.58....Lol....This is gonna hurt....

Let us know when there is a report of a car stereo shop on fire in the news. Because the owner of that van burnt it down.😂😂😂😂😂

They just chopped the old speaker grill hahahahaha

Poor guy. That shop needs calling out! Sorry not shop I meant butchers!

"These guys were proper butchers". LOL

woooww what a shit install! but not the worst ive seen. This is a very similar story that happened to one of steve meades customers. The owner litterally just started ripping shit out and throwing it in the dumpster. Poor guy. Also i used focal bam in my car 😭. Youre breaking my heart here Peter. 💔 🤣

@pssound9749

2 жыл бұрын

That product is for isolation, not for deadening.

@nismofreak33

2 жыл бұрын

@@pssound9749 yeah, no one told me that 3-4 years ago 😭

And thats why i do my own installs 🤣

That looks like schoolboy did it. Maybe there really was school boy doing it... If you by cheap car from 19 yr old with car stereo system you can find anything... Were there mystery fault codes in car? Canbus don't like amateur addings to car...

@pssound9749

2 жыл бұрын

They only used the speaker levels from the HU, that doesn’t mass up anything

So Peter is it as bad as the Jag. 😂😂 Also makes me feel better about mine.

@pssound9749

2 жыл бұрын

It depends on which Jag you mean! 😃

6k, that’s crazy.

@pssound9749

2 жыл бұрын

What’s 6k?

@ApEsXiT

2 жыл бұрын

@@pssound9749 you said the install was $6,000 no?

@pssound9749

2 жыл бұрын

@@ApEsXiT €3000 euros.

@ApEsXiT

2 жыл бұрын

Well shoot I’d pay 3.5k for that install! Jk. I’m glad I asked for pics when I had my install done!

eddy - ITS IB ! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH!

Citroën Berlingo Multispace

did they IB a Focal sub? seriously?

@pssound9749

2 жыл бұрын

Nooo, we were just joking. You can see there was no hole cut in the floor.

They are gzut 28 sq

At 26:13...😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆

Sad to say, but i've seen worse.

3k wow. you would be better off trying to install the gear yourself, even as a first time install. wow man not cool. i think these shops just charge people based off the equipment they buy. buy really cheap gear and see how they install it.

@666Necropsy

2 жыл бұрын

maybe they were trying IB lol

@666Necropsy

2 жыл бұрын

best way to kill your amp is to use bare wire.

@666Necropsy

2 жыл бұрын

hey we can hide that there. lol i didnt think id be commenting so much

@666Necropsy

2 жыл бұрын

the more i watch the worse it gets. it does make you mad at some point.

To be fair, he only paid $19.99 for the install. It looks like he got his gear install in Somalia

Why don't you do affiliate links in the video descriptions? You could be making so much more money!

@pssound9749

Ай бұрын

Hardly anyone buys from us as everyone buys stuff for as dirt cheap as possible from the last bedroom eBay seller. Sad, but true.

i cringe as you unfold the horrors within this kind of installation. appalling!

Fuk I was doing better than that on my pals cars at 15 25 years go make me sick DO IT ONECE DO IT RIGHT Peter u will turn it round show how it is meant to be done.

I was wondering if you ever tried the UM-10 from Dayton Audio ?

@pssound9749

2 жыл бұрын

No, not yet.