Caral - Supe: The oldest civilization in the Americas - HQ

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  • @sharonfarnsworth215
    @sharonfarnsworth2154 жыл бұрын

    Caral - Supe looks like an awesome place to visit.. i bet the feeling of just walking around puts you in a mind set of the ancients letting you know just how special it must truly be..

  • @user-zr7fm2mr8y

    @user-zr7fm2mr8y

    2 ай бұрын

    kzread.info/dash/bejne/nWpspbiFaK-piNo.html

  • @ecuadorexpat8558
    @ecuadorexpat85583 жыл бұрын

    WOW.. absolutely incredible surreal and amazing.. I am fortunate enough to live in Ecuador where we also have lots of archaeology .. I plan to visit Peru next year thats for sure.. Thanks for the great video

  • @jesusluna4498

    @jesusluna4498

    3 жыл бұрын

    No hay nada en ecuador.el peru es la madre patria de este continente

  • @chadeakins2591
    @chadeakins25912 жыл бұрын

    I have traveled in Peru and it is a shame such a sacred people have been turned into a third world country we owe so much to the people who gave us the potato cultivated maze and beans and so much more most people never hear of Caral

  • @alberto77777

    @alberto77777

    Жыл бұрын

    Es un pais del tercer mundo gracias a las elites mundiales, imperialistas de mierda, como EEUU.

  • @countryballspredicciones5184

    @countryballspredicciones5184

    Жыл бұрын

    So true.

  • @shauniebnaturalista6672
    @shauniebnaturalista66725 жыл бұрын

    I visited Machu Picchu and Sacsayhuaman this year (and saw the elongated Inca skulls). I simply MUST return to experience Lake Titicaca, the Nazca Lines, etched rocks showing astrology and brain surgery, and so so so much more!!! This is a magical place.

  • @drewcrew3064

    @drewcrew3064

    4 жыл бұрын

    My ancestors the Egiptians did that and so much more!

  • @shauniebnaturalista6672

    @shauniebnaturalista6672

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@drewcrew3064 I've been inside the Pyramids in Cairo as well! Next stop Petra.

  • @peterpagano8954

    @peterpagano8954

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@drewcrew3064 Are you sure you don't mean the Egyptians instead of the Egiptians.

  • @josephw4830

    @josephw4830

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@drewcrew3064 Brain removal for mummification can hardly be construed as brain surgery

  • @bethbabson7421

    @bethbabson7421

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@josephw4830 if not post death you can tell which skulls people had lived post procedures around world. You must have meant Egyptian mummification only.

  • @floridaboi904
    @floridaboi9045 жыл бұрын

    "We are a species with amnesia"-Graham Hancock

  • @shermanatorosborn9688

    @shermanatorosborn9688

    5 жыл бұрын

    If we only knew the artifacts that have been hidden from us (like this one ) kzread.info/dash/bejne/aouHysetmsy0ipc.html

  • @irenerecke2668

    @irenerecke2668

    5 жыл бұрын

    yep

  • @TheTreeKing

    @TheTreeKing

    5 жыл бұрын

    Intended amnesia

  • @aporist

    @aporist

    5 жыл бұрын

    He's right. The whole history of the human species is stored in our brains but we cannot open the files as we have forgotten the password. Only from time to time we have some strange 'dreams', visions, moments of stuper when we are transfered back in time (sometimes in the future) and we wonder what happens with us!?

  • @MadDog44

    @MadDog44

    5 жыл бұрын

    That's because 'someone' keeps genociding humans. DNA experts tell us that we're all descended from 33 humans. Are they the ones who hid in a cave during the extermination...or were they the chosen ones to breed the next batch of humans in?

  • @deniserowley3329
    @deniserowley33295 жыл бұрын

    Love the sound of pan pipes

  • @shanghunter7697

    @shanghunter7697

    5 жыл бұрын

    Could've used some cow bells too.

  • @deniserowley3329
    @deniserowley33295 жыл бұрын

    Peru is fascinating

  • @eblanco78

    @eblanco78

    5 жыл бұрын

    Only rival are the Egipto

  • @joeman425

    @joeman425

    4 жыл бұрын

    The Maya, the just found 20,000 new structures through Lydar.

  • @youngsavag666

    @youngsavag666

    4 жыл бұрын

    eblanco78 peru is a s hit hole with indians 😂😂 Nothing compared to Egypt Mesopotamia Mexico India

  • @Camila-yn6iw

    @Camila-yn6iw

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much 🇵🇪🙌

  • @purpleblastoise

    @purpleblastoise

    Жыл бұрын

    Proud to be Inkan! 🏳️‍🌈🦙💪🏽

  • @jonathandaubin4968
    @jonathandaubin49684 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for your informative video.

  • @Anju876
    @Anju8766 ай бұрын

    This is a must visit site if you're into this stuff, it's so well preserved and you're up close hearing silence, to the howling of wind at times the land which makes u think walking through, what was it really like at the time. When I went as of Nov. 2023 a guide said they've only uncovered approx 9% of the site which is insane because the valley and mountains where it's located is so vast, on top of the fact that there's another location by the sea called aspero which I didn't get to go into but drove there, is some 7 to 10 miles away (could be wrong on the distance). But just that it had nothing to do with the mountainous region. Amazing to think that at some parts of the site there were land squatters there previously just sitting on priceless history... Who knows during a heavy rain what could've surfaced and discarded because it wasn't understood.

  • @angebrowne1730
    @angebrowne17305 жыл бұрын

    The channel Wise Up is very revealing, too. I don't mean in competition with this channel, but also interesting.

  • @josephw4830

    @josephw4830

    4 жыл бұрын

    Aesop's Fables have more credibility than this channel...

  • @RichardASalisbury1
    @RichardASalisbury13 жыл бұрын

    I would love to visit these site--more than, say, Macchu Picchu. I wonder whether these are [part of?] the Peruvian civilization mentioned in the latter part of the book (a must-read!) "1491," which that author reckons to be the second oldest (full-attested) civilization in the world--younger than Sumer but older than Egypt?

  • @andersonalpha9078

    @andersonalpha9078

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes

  • @Sophia-hw3cm
    @Sophia-hw3cm3 жыл бұрын

    This really helped me with my history studies.

  • @battalion2604
    @battalion26047 жыл бұрын

    I'm a proud Descendant of the Guayas Clan of the Chimuan Ethnic Group of South America just as the Caral, Supe, Chimor, Muchik, Pakatnamu, Sumpa, Puruha, Canari, Tumpi, Puna, Manta, Ichma, Callao, Engabao, Yunga, Chan, Colonchi, Chucuyunuri, Chongon, Asajmone, Isera, Muey, Pacoa, Pungai, Machala, Yaguachi, Tenguel, Balao, Jujan, Bucay, Sipan, Tosagua Clans are. Loctopanchi (Chimuan for Bye)!

  • @nmagain24

    @nmagain24

    4 жыл бұрын

    As an American Descendant of Slavery, I'm happy that you KNOW and REP your peoples. Peace.

  • @elinikolai7493

    @elinikolai7493

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@nmagain24 Africans have been through a lot but I believe if that all of Africa united no one would be able to stop them.

  • @HVLLOWS1999
    @HVLLOWS1999 Жыл бұрын

    30 years ago if you asked a scholar who the oldest civilization in the Americas were. They’d undoubtedly say the Olmec of Mexico. 30 years ago knowledge a civilization contemporary to the Pre-Dynastic Egypt and the Early-Sumerians was fledgling in Peru c. 3500 BC was unheard of. Pyramids in Peru dated to 2900 BC that’s almost too good to be true yet here it is who knows what else this world is hiding.

  • @imafackinjunglist

    @imafackinjunglist

    5 ай бұрын

    If you asked a scholar 30 years ago they would of mentioned ancient Sumeria and the Indus Valley. I highly doubt you could of asked a scholar such a question 30 years ago because you wouldn’t be talking this way now if you did.

  • @slwtgf
    @slwtgf5 жыл бұрын

    Apparently this early civilization has our current culture beat in knowledge, but in Energy, drive, and Will, too. This info blows my mind 🤯.

  • @timothymoynihan199

    @timothymoynihan199

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yet they disappeared. Doesn't bode well for us, does it?

  • @richardhawkins2248
    @richardhawkins22484 жыл бұрын

    Fused stone buildings were used to support that type of masonry. Nobody has a clue who built the fused stone structures.

  • @Elsuper68
    @Elsuper683 жыл бұрын

    The Land of the 10 Civilizations only in Perú. Viva el Perú Carajo . Viva the Peruvias Gods before the bible.

  • @lusijarplo3050
    @lusijarplo30504 жыл бұрын

    dzięki :) thank you for the informative video

  • @Kennychan222
    @Kennychan2225 жыл бұрын

    I am coming to visit Caral in 3.5 months! :)

  • @capinnip5817
    @capinnip581710 ай бұрын

    Muy excelente video pronto estaré visitando este gran descubrimiento arqueológico ❤❤❤. Saludos a todos los peruanos

  • @user-zr7fm2mr8y

    @user-zr7fm2mr8y

    2 ай бұрын

    kzread.info/dash/bejne/nWpspbiFaK-piNo.html

  • @billstream1974
    @billstream19746 ай бұрын

    Caral is beautiful but a lot older than mainstream Archeology is willing to admit.

  • @RobertHarrisMIB
    @RobertHarrisMIB4 жыл бұрын

    Awesome sound track at 8:00 minutes! I'm stealing it.

  • @user-fl9zh5nv6q
    @user-fl9zh5nv6q2 жыл бұрын

    Most sacred city of america

  • @jasondaniel918
    @jasondaniel9184 жыл бұрын

    At one and the same time Caral is described as an "advanced" civilization and a "pre ceramic" civilization. Can both statements be true? I thought ceramics were basic to civilization. How did these people store, transport and drink water? Did they have beer or wine? If so, how were they made without ceramics?

  • @JA-rn5qv

    @JA-rn5qv

    2 жыл бұрын

    Water was stored in puquinas many of which were connected via subterranean aqueducts. for personal totting of water hollowed out gourds were used. Chicha (fermented drink) was also made in gourds and pouched animal skins.

  • @jasondaniel918

    @jasondaniel918

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@JA-rn5qv Thank you. This is good information.

  • @nicholassudov2299
    @nicholassudov22995 жыл бұрын

    A silly question. Human "civilization" has never ended.

  • @maggiedoja
    @maggiedoja5 жыл бұрын

    I’d really love to know the music source-song used with the mountain flute- if you wouldn’t mind sharing please

  • @sharonfarnsworth215

    @sharonfarnsworth215

    4 жыл бұрын

    Go to FYE they should have CD's of Aztec flute music.. it's amazing to listen to.. we saw members of an Aztec circle here in FL a few yrs ago bought their CD then went to FYE & found more.. extremely relaxing & haunting..

  • @thomascassler9494

    @thomascassler9494

    4 жыл бұрын

    it,s called a pan flute!

  • @JA-rn5qv

    @JA-rn5qv

    4 жыл бұрын

    It's music from a very popular Peruvian group known as Alborada which includes native Peruvian notch flute, Peruvian panpipes, and other pan-native wind instruments. It is NOT Aztec flute music as Sharon suggested. There were no Aztecs in Peru. She's on the wrong continent lol. Here's a link to some Alborada music - kzread.info/dash/bejne/lGx-tM57hbW1oZs.html

  • @robertonegreli2840
    @robertonegreli2840 Жыл бұрын

    ~From Curitiba, Paraná, Brasil, thank you ~

  • @terrygrund6598
    @terrygrund65985 жыл бұрын

    If people migrated to the Americas at the end of the last ice age, 12,000 years ago, because sea levels were lower and ice sheets had melted enough to allow passage, why wouldn't those same conditions exist at the beginning of the ice age?

  • @rnunezc.4575

    @rnunezc.4575

    3 жыл бұрын

    Very good observation. Thanks yes is possible

  • @theman9048

    @theman9048

    3 жыл бұрын

    All modern people were still in Africa at the beginning of the ice age

  • @matthewmann8969
    @matthewmann89693 жыл бұрын

    Nice designing and measuring yes

  • @RetroLuv_
    @RetroLuv_ Жыл бұрын

    You can’t determine de age of a civilization by the pottery you find around it. Caral is at least 12,000 years old and so are the pyramids in the Giza complex

  • @danishscientist
    @danishscientist2 жыл бұрын

    How old is it?

  • @erlinghaland5334

    @erlinghaland5334

    Жыл бұрын

    3000 a.c.

  • @ejf2894
    @ejf28944 жыл бұрын

    We always bury our past.. only to dig it up looking for answers...

  • @jjcomparato5148
    @jjcomparato51485 жыл бұрын

    People who can clearly see the different types of stone work know that there were ancient people who had great insights and technology before earth changes.

  • @AloisWeimar

    @AloisWeimar

    11 ай бұрын

    stop with the Hancock Carlson pseudo science, i have an aversion to bulahit

  • @Nongrouli
    @Nongrouli4 жыл бұрын

    With time will be more discoveries that will startle everyone

  • @arturokl3
    @arturokl34 жыл бұрын

    El ceviche más antiguo se encontró en Caral.

  • @user-zr7fm2mr8y

    @user-zr7fm2mr8y

    2 ай бұрын

    kzread.info/dash/bejne/nWpspbiFaK-piNo.html tienes mucha razon en el centro arqueologico ASPERO QUE ESTA A 25 KM DE CARAL EN PUERTO SUPE

  • @lorrainejacobson3069
    @lorrainejacobson30694 жыл бұрын

    This is very interesting. Is there going to be a book ?

  • @bankfinanzas6348

    @bankfinanzas6348

    5 ай бұрын

    Yes

  • @ctitoyoung7693
    @ctitoyoung76935 жыл бұрын

    Poking around using Google Earth, if you cross the river and head downstream (towards the ocean) there is another one of those pyramids with a ring on it. Curious to know if anyone noticed it. There are a lot of older ruins around going up and down the river as well, including a few of those larger ruins that doesn't have a ring.

  • @Aztlantean

    @Aztlantean

    3 жыл бұрын

    Its a site older than Caral named Aspero, it was like from 3700 BCE

  • @JA-rn5qv

    @JA-rn5qv

    2 жыл бұрын

    Those are the older sites. The initial samples taken from those adjacent areas indicate dates from 3500 BCE to 4500 BCE but that is only for the topmost layers of which 4 have been sampled but there are up to 15 layers below the ones that have been sampled included what seems to be enormous fused rock foundations.

  • @elenaradin9269
    @elenaradin92694 ай бұрын

    I went at the end of January 2024, an amazing place! Very hot, wear light cloths and bring water, sun glasses, sun block and a hat!

  • @JoshAlicea1229
    @JoshAlicea12295 жыл бұрын

    I went there last year. Mad cool

  • @TheRiceguy78

    @TheRiceguy78

    3 жыл бұрын

    cool! was it tough to get to?. did you need a tour guide? and were the locals ok with visitors?

  • @JoshAlicea1229

    @JoshAlicea1229

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TheRiceguy78 yeah it's a tourist destination. They offer a guide. But it's cool

  • @JoshAlicea1229

    @JoshAlicea1229

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TheRiceguy78 They pick you up via truck or "hayride" type thing. But its mad chill

  • @benmadi
    @benmadi5 жыл бұрын

    its amazing the further you go back, the more advanced the stonework is :) I wonder why lol

  • @edgardeluis4372

    @edgardeluis4372

    5 жыл бұрын

    Jesus talked about the noas time was jesus a liar? In noas time the angels walk in earth mat 24:37

  • @hintzofcolorconcepts

    @hintzofcolorconcepts

    5 жыл бұрын

    The movie Idiocracy illustrates the gradual decline of intelligence which has likely been the case all along.

  • @russellmillar7132

    @russellmillar7132

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nope, it's the opposite. Stone working techniques and architecture progressed from pre-civilized times, then, continued with the rise of urban centers like Caral-Supe , the Moche, Chimu, Tiwanaku, Nazca and others. and were at their zenith with the Inca, when the Spaniards invaded. Many of the ancient lost disappeared advanced civilization theorists assert that the most advanced came first ( in line with the idea that the knowledge of a lost culture, Like Atlantis, is responsible for the megalithic work ) and subsequent generations became less able or motivated to do refined craftsmanship. With any knowledge of the progression of skill with architecture that occurred with the pre-Columbian cultures in meso-America, it can be clearly seen that the Aztec, who, like the Inca, had learned from previous urban civilizations and were at their pinnacle when Cortez and his conquistadors showed up.

  • @domingodeanda233
    @domingodeanda2335 жыл бұрын

    That was so awesome

  • @samallardyce2522
    @samallardyce25224 жыл бұрын

    please take note that starting from 1st June 2020, the letter Z has been removed from english alphabet

  • @jameswyatt5859
    @jameswyatt58594 жыл бұрын

    I would love to visit there before I die.

  • @Shelleyxcful
    @Shelleyxcful4 жыл бұрын

    I just finished reading graham hancock's lastest book re: the americas. Good reading, bogs down in some places with technical jargon. He not only tells his learned story of the American continent , perceived by his thousands of miles journeyed, the hundreds of interviews with local indigenous and archeologists/geologists, but also touches on how the science of archeology has/had been highjacked by elites, but is now being opened to other interpretations. This book contained information that I had never in my 15 years of armchair research had ever read about; yep my knowledge was expanded - i.e. blow my mind.

  • @matthewstorer6923

    @matthewstorer6923

    3 жыл бұрын

    I just finished it as well. Great book!!!

  • @adam007ize

    @adam007ize

    3 жыл бұрын

    Just be careful your knowledge isn’t expanded by bullshit. Hancock’s just another pseudo historian like Van Daniken et al, who make plenty of money selling their pseudo archeological fantasies to naive, gullible folk who lap it up like lost sheep. He ain’t an idiot, he’s a charlatan.

  • @johnscanlon7757

    @johnscanlon7757

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@adam007ize except a lot of what Hancock said is now fact

  • @loke6664

    @loke6664

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@johnscanlon7757 Hancock do cherry pick information to show things in line with his theories and avoid anything going against it which is not a great way of doing science. He isn't afraid of making things up either with zero evidence to back it up. So I am not impressed. We do know who built the great pyramid, in fact we do even know what many of the work teams who built it called themselves because they were rather happy to scribble it down. He talks a lot about a very advanced ice age civilization who after it's collapse moved all over the world spreading technology like agriculture but in all places agriculture popped up they used local plants to create crops instead of bringing it like happened during the age of exploration. Also, such an advanced civilization must have been able to read and write and yet the oldest writing we have is from Ur or possible the Danube valley at least 6000 years later. Something would have survived. If you were from Atlantis and built Göbekli Tepe we would expect to see some writing there. If an actual ice age civilization existed it would be far closer to Jericho and Catalahöyek instead, no writing, no pottery but they were still able to create small cities and I could easily buy such places existing before Jericho (9000 BCE), basically 2500 years before. 2500 years might sound a lot but it isn't that long and I can buy such evidence either have been flooded or are still lying under a hill somewhere. However, such a civilization is rather different from what Hancock describes. There are some evidence for it existing though, there is a 1000 year older temple with a town East of Göbekli tepe that have been excavated since 2019 and it might just be such a place (Source: www.aa.com.tr/en/culture/ancient-site-older-than-gobeklitepe-unearthed-in-turkey/1664156). So Hancock is kinda right that older unknown civilizations exist but he want them to be like Atlantis and that is not what the evidence tell us. You can't choose to ignore facts that doesn't work with your theories, that is just what Hancock accuses real archaeologists of. If I were trying to prove something like Hancock claims I would try to use genetics to prove that crops from the regions he claims were settled from his ice age civilization are related and find some written language that is at least 10 000 years because those would be smoking guns but he doesn't. likely because he himself doesn't believe such evidence exist. The oldest high technology city in the world is Ur, who had an administrative class, writing, taxes, laws and similar things. Written laws and exact taxes are very different from that whoever is in charge decide those things whenever he or she feels like it. In Catalhöyek it seems like no one was in charge even which is pretty confusing. I am all for challenging historians of their views but you can't just discard archaeological evidence because you don't like that they say. That is what those ancient aliens theorists claims and to me that is being lazy. You have to consider all the evidence and it is certainly true that historians can be pretty slow there, the Clovis first theory still have a few supporters even if it have been conclusively proven that people were in the Yucatan peninsula 21-23 000 years ago. 2 wrongs doesn't make a right though and a single case of problematica is not enough unless it is super convincing.

  • @williambrandondavis6897

    @williambrandondavis6897

    Жыл бұрын

    @@johnscanlon7757 That’s one of the oldest tricks in the fraudsters handbook. Seed your bs with little bits of truth and facts to build credibility and distract from the scam. He is really good at it and is a millionaire from selling books full of lies.

  • @jayblue9494
    @jayblue94945 жыл бұрын

    You can make power with music and sound

  • @hintzofcolorconcepts

    @hintzofcolorconcepts

    5 жыл бұрын

    Good luck with that

  • @wilburcollins8342
    @wilburcollins83424 жыл бұрын

    I love it.

  • @mg3873
    @mg38735 жыл бұрын

    This is cool...I'm always intrigued to find this but as one person put it "when did archeology stop to care about facts and start pushing fairy tales or bs?" Honestly, I wish I had an answer to that question--there are so much that we claim to know but we don't truly know. There cold be older civilizations...there could be things that we never knew with civilization.

  • @alexk7973

    @alexk7973

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think we have to distinguish between the scientific work done by actual archaeologists and the way it‘s presented to the wider public in documentaries. Developing theories to later prove or disprove is part of the scientific process, but often documentaries portray theories as facts. So the fault isn‘t necessarily with the archaeologists, but rather with the media for simplifying everything in order to make it more presentable.

  • @siddhartha894

    @siddhartha894

    11 ай бұрын

    @@alexk7973 Also, they mostly only present 1 theory and act like other ones dont exist. Fall of Civilizations talks about their sources in detail and their validity in their documentary and also shows present theories and lets the viewer give multiple interpretation if there is lack of proof by both historical records and archeological findings. Hope more docs be like them

  • @sirenamarieneblina2314
    @sirenamarieneblina23144 жыл бұрын

    Simewhere between then and now somebody took away your ability to remember what your forebearers knew. Predicesive memory.

  • @Ya-kz7lg

    @Ya-kz7lg

    4 жыл бұрын

    Sirena Marie Neblina Well, for one thing, a lot of their descendants are dead, plus their civilization fell around 4,000 years ago.

  • @amoun5062

    @amoun5062

    4 жыл бұрын

    @STAR MAN You misspelled Europeans (Spaniards)

  • @bobdownie.2806

    @bobdownie.2806

    3 жыл бұрын

    As unscientific as what you say sounds, there is a deep part of me that suspects something like this exists.

  • @johnscanlon7757

    @johnscanlon7757

    2 жыл бұрын

    Great reset

  • @johnscanlon7757

    @johnscanlon7757

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@amoun5062 they fell way before any European came along can’t blame everything on the white man

  • @halweilbrenner9926
    @halweilbrenner99263 жыл бұрын

    They probably used hand gestures and drew things in the dirt to communicate even before they they had a sophisticated oral language. Like all ancient hominids.

  • @clairemendresse1980
    @clairemendresse19804 жыл бұрын

    I love tht flute music, please do you have a link ?

  • @josephw4830

    @josephw4830

    4 жыл бұрын

    Jethro Tull

  • @jimfritz9503

    @jimfritz9503

    4 жыл бұрын

    Maybe a band called CUSCO

  • @lindajclark3410
    @lindajclark34104 жыл бұрын

    I agree with MH, & Thanks for the info

  • @pumpenheimer4570
    @pumpenheimer45705 жыл бұрын

    I’m glad they got Jethro Tull to help out on the soundtrack. 🎼

  • @edwardmurdoch5070

    @edwardmurdoch5070

    3 жыл бұрын

    I love Jethro Tull, but Andean music needs no help. Their melodies with quenas and zampoñas are sweet and melancholic.

  • @ericcloud1023

    @ericcloud1023

    3 жыл бұрын

    Lol I knew it sounded familiar. My dad always plays jethro tull so I've picked up on them to

  • @RPLAsmodeus
    @RPLAsmodeus4 жыл бұрын

    7:20 whats that music track... its stirring my wake and bake xD

  • @csmith5876

    @csmith5876

    4 жыл бұрын

    I think its from karate kid part 2

  • @csmith5876

    @csmith5876

    4 жыл бұрын

    Idk. Im jammin out to it tho

  • @jimfritz9503

    @jimfritz9503

    4 жыл бұрын

    Maybe a group called CUSCO . They have a dozen CDs of that type of music.

  • @hollymiskell8108
    @hollymiskell81084 жыл бұрын

    and this video seems to resemble by appearance of the picture quality some work of the early 90's, what if we has known about this back in elementary school

  • @JulianoMarcello
    @JulianoMarcello3 жыл бұрын

    Espetacular

  • @kprairiesun
    @kprairiesun4 жыл бұрын

    I have a hard time staying with this. Drags out. I've watched it 3 times and not clear on dates.. 5000 years ago?

  • @fredvanderbeek5881

    @fredvanderbeek5881

    4 жыл бұрын

    And some say Pumu Punku is over 30,000 yrs old.

  • @souledout3340
    @souledout33404 жыл бұрын

    Is there any connection here between these people and the Havasupi or the Supaii?

  • @bobbiusshadow6985

    @bobbiusshadow6985

    4 жыл бұрын

    The Olmecs

  • @JA-rn5qv

    @JA-rn5qv

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@bobbiusshadow6985 The Olmecs? You are on the wrong continent and the Caral-Supe arose as a civilazation thousands of years before the Olmecs existed.

  • @JA-rn5qv

    @JA-rn5qv

    4 жыл бұрын

    Very doubtful there is any connection between the Caral-Supe (Peru) and the Havasupi (Grand Canyon USA) considering that the Caral-Supe were a very sophisticated civilization 5000 years ago thousands of miles away where as the Havasupi were a more of a nomadic descendant of Clovis people still living in teepee's by the 1800's. The Havasupi look like most other Clovis decent people of the southwestern United States where as the Caral-Supe are very distinct looking and their actual lineage as currently being hotly debated since it contradicts much of what has been taught by mainstream historians about ancient Peru. What we do know is that the descendants of the Caral-Supe people such as the Nazca and Pachacamac people share DNA with the people of ancient southern Ukraine in the Crimea region (and the Ainu people of pre-Asian Okinawa) as well as one particular strain of DNA which does not match up to any other group of Humans to the point that they are being given their own designation now of Homo Sapiens Sapiens Paracas.

  • @McClarinJ
    @McClarinJ5 жыл бұрын

    Glad to learn of Caral but I can't agree it is "The oldest civilization in the Americas." There is such a stark difference between the crude upper stonework of the Incas and the precise megaliths of the lower levels they were built upon that they must have been built by separate peoples far separated in time. Who were those ancient builders and what wiped out their skilled stoneworking technology that should otherwise have been passed down to the Inca empire? Were there civilizations flourishing in the now undersea areas off the present-day coast that were suddenly inundated when sea-level rose some 400 feet at the end of the last ice age? I suspect there were and that underwater archaeology will bring them to light.

  • @floridaboi904

    @floridaboi904

    5 жыл бұрын

    If they have the balls to dig deeper. Thats a BIG IF

  • @gabrielanthony2742

    @gabrielanthony2742

    5 жыл бұрын

    Couldn't agree more. But we need a smoking gun to convince the mainstream authority. As blatantly obvious as it is to us all that the megalithic stone walls throughout Peru and all over the world for that matter make the more modern work look pedestrian, it still does not convince the mainstream. Well, it probably does but will threaten grant money if they dared stray from the dogma and indoctrinated bullshit they have been feeding us for decades.

  • @jonysevn

    @jonysevn

    5 жыл бұрын

    Left reply on mainstream, sorry.

  • @howardfreeland5595

    @howardfreeland5595

    5 жыл бұрын

    Well said. Another thought is that those earlier civilizations (megalithics all over the world) are no longer here, either died off or have gone elsewhere.

  • @olecranonrebellion9976

    @olecranonrebellion9976

    5 жыл бұрын

    Agreed.

  • @gagechelsea1796
    @gagechelsea17962 жыл бұрын

    The America’s have shown human occupation for over 120,000 years…

  • @Elsuper68
    @Elsuper684 жыл бұрын

    Under the desert of Peru coslt lines there is a more oldest civilization then any any place in the world

  • @dubiousdoubting8056
    @dubiousdoubting80564 жыл бұрын

    What is the time it takes a spur or arm of the galaxy to move around from one site in space and back to that same (actually never as the galaxy is moving)side as it started from? That place of the galaxy as it sweeps along moves from a more or less known space into areas not encounter before? I ask because in the time it takes for earth to encounter or become near enough to an occupied near alien world , remain within nearness, and allow an alien presence to travel and influence an ancient earth. After a time the earth would then move onward or to far from that alien world for the alien to remain on earth. Maybe some aliens were caught and had to remain on earth and become our legends as we hear of ,

  • @jonysevn
    @jonysevn5 жыл бұрын

    There will be photos of all our civilisations. Just got to get the albums out the spaceships. Which, if they come here now, have done for ages I’ll bet. Anyway good comment.

  • @MartenVanDerPal

    @MartenVanDerPal

    5 жыл бұрын

    kzread.info/dash/bejne/e3edyKmzqbWXl6g.html

  • @MartenVanDerPal

    @MartenVanDerPal

    5 жыл бұрын

    kzread.info/dash/bejne/fHybj8-rZMTXh84.html

  • @imafackinjunglist
    @imafackinjunglist5 ай бұрын

    That depiction of the man at the end of the intro looks like the earliest Greek statues.

  • @aotearoastyle
    @aotearoastyle2 жыл бұрын

    They clearly learnt that engineering technology from the people they considered to be "Ancient" during the time of Caral-Supe. Find the source of where that engineering started and the civilization who created it

  • @etchalaco9971

    @etchalaco9971

    2 жыл бұрын

    who are you referring to?

  • @edwardhanson3664
    @edwardhanson36645 жыл бұрын

    those round structures in the ground look like kivas and ball courts. That would tie them to the cultures of New Mexico & Arizona.

  • @peterpagano8954

    @peterpagano8954

    4 жыл бұрын

    Not necessarily! Ball courts were used by the Aztecs, Maya's and, much farther back in time, by the Olmecs.

  • @joeman425

    @joeman425

    4 жыл бұрын

    The Natives of North, Central, and South America are definitely connected there is no doubt in my mind.

  • @Merchndice28

    @Merchndice28

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@joeman425 False the natives are actually today. Those back then nearly went genocide with their home countries. The aboriginals of this day only have those ties. Some natives much much closer to your time have made some influence.

  • @joeman425

    @joeman425

    4 жыл бұрын

    I would have to disagree with you, because the native dna in most people who take dna test today is still pretty high, in local areas. Certain parts are higher than others, just go watch some dna videos, Central Americans average about 50 percent native, Mexicans do as well, South Americans im not too sure, so the narrative that all the natives almost died out can be partly true depending on the region.

  • @trishmorrison2529
    @trishmorrison25295 жыл бұрын

    It looks like their use to be an island chain from south American all the way to Easter island on Google earth.

  • @garyk.nedrow8302
    @garyk.nedrow83022 жыл бұрын

    The video tells us very little about the civilization, their culture, or even what the people called themselves. Presumably there is still much to learn. At least part of the purpose of the video appears to be marketing, to inspire tourism by comparing Caral-Supe with Egypt or Sumeria. There simply aren't enough artifacts or facts yet. Except for hard-core anthropologists, it looks like a tough sell.

  • @eltanquedecasma1184

    @eltanquedecasma1184

    2 жыл бұрын

    This is a channel dedicated to ‘tourism’. There’s plenty of other video on YT with more detail.

  • @jaywarrenclark6263
    @jaywarrenclark62634 жыл бұрын

    Aren’t some people saying the ruins near Titicaca are around 12 thousand years old? Why no mention of this?

  • @thomasryan108

    @thomasryan108

    4 жыл бұрын

    exactly ...this was 100% BS

  • @danielvelizotani9779

    @danielvelizotani9779

    4 жыл бұрын

    Clown

  • @ontarget4076
    @ontarget4076 Жыл бұрын

    The fact this city existed is awesome! The reasons it was buried on purpose is beyond me! Why try to hide it under mountains of rocks and dirt intentionally?

  • @philipfreeman72
    @philipfreeman724 жыл бұрын

    We are the 85th people on Earth .

  • @oldcsprof9297
    @oldcsprof92974 жыл бұрын

    I wonder how they can state as fact that the musical instruments were used for religious celebrations.Why not for entertainment. Also, how do they know that certain dwelling places were for the leaders? It seems to that other than the physical remains, anything else in pure assumption.

  • @fishfire_2999

    @fishfire_2999

    4 жыл бұрын

    I have learned to unfortunately not believe anything , 90% of what I see goes in the same box with Star Trek and Carl Segan .

  • @josephw4830

    @josephw4830

    4 жыл бұрын

    Not just with historical events. Every branch of science is built on conjecture. We have a world filled with educated morons.

  • @bdoon51

    @bdoon51

    4 жыл бұрын

    Got that right!

  • @bdoon51

    @bdoon51

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@josephw4830 haha

  • @kayosblaize6192

    @kayosblaize6192

    4 жыл бұрын

    Read the book of the cave of treasures. Those flutes weren't used for religious things.

  • @rockel83
    @rockel832 жыл бұрын

    "Ancient Peruvians" sounds a bit strange though. Since Peru is covering a verry big part of South America as we know it these days. Nowadays we know the people as Peruvians, because they're all living in their country, called Peru. And which covers all of this area. But hundreds and thousands years ago this same area was devided by a lot of diffrent civilisations and cultures. Like the Lima's, Nazca's, Chachapoyas, Inca's etc. Just to name a few. But nonetheless, verry interesting!

  • @etchalaco9971

    @etchalaco9971

    2 жыл бұрын

    But the civilization is actually the same, a single cultural development. Today we call Egypt by that name and Greece by that name and we have no problem saying Egyptians or ancient Greeks, so why not Peruvians?

  • @etchalaco9971

    @etchalaco9971

    2 жыл бұрын

    I even objet to the term ancient as opposed to modern. The culture of "ancient" Peru is still very much a part of modern Peru

  • @rockel83

    @rockel83

    Жыл бұрын

    @@etchalaco9971 Well, there're actually "Greek" people who have proplems with the name "Greek" and they prefer to call themselves Hellenes. Same is with the Greek language btw.

  • @bushdevil62
    @bushdevil625 жыл бұрын

    Stop implying your assumptions are fact. just admit you don't know.you can't look at the indigenous peoples today and claim that's how I was in antiquity.

  • @moisrama1
    @moisrama15 жыл бұрын

    Looks like the construction is from rubble; this is relatively recent since it is crude; the trend is that the older the rock constructions the more intricate. Caral looks like a re-settlement.

  • @floridaboi904

    @floridaboi904

    5 жыл бұрын

    Or repairs. Clearly two different skill levels were involved. The older stone work is much more impressive, as we would most certainly not be able to recreat today.

  • @fool1shmortal

    @fool1shmortal

    4 жыл бұрын

    People have been devolving; not evolving. We made all this amazing stuff, but lack wisdom. We take all that accumulated knowledge of making great things that inspire, but make utilitarian buildings, instead. We are admiring civilizations we're told were advanced, socially, though not all those "noble savages" were AS noble as we're taught. Having a close-knit homogenous society helps people cate for each other in some ways, but not others. Some attacked other villages, like those Columbus took as slaves after terrorizing the tribe originally in the Dominican Republic/Cuba island. What about inbreeding amongst isolated tribes? You have to think that is happening. That can't help the minds of a people advance.

  • @etchalaco9971

    @etchalaco9971

    4 жыл бұрын

    In Caral what was dated was the Shicra bags, ornanic material underneath the pyramids. This is as solid as it gets. What's at the bottom preceeds what is on top.

  • @k-matsu

    @k-matsu

    3 жыл бұрын

    It is certainly a step down from the sort of building work in Cuzco or the Titicaca area. And most likely younger, as well. This valley was still cultivatable in the conquistador era, whereas the Altiplano has been too high elevation to grow grain crops, for at least 5000 years.

  • @dseldridge8360
    @dseldridge83605 жыл бұрын

    🌄 I couldn't agree more w/what Graham and Giorgio exclaim about our amnesia, but I think maybe bonked on the noggin a couple times... We really have to reignite the child like curiosity and appreciate just simple amazing things we are discovering w/out prejudging and stupid ego about who's right + who's wrong. How about a clean slate, maybe ✌🏞🎶🌌🎸🌟🤘🌈⛥🎵🏛😎✨

  • @jimhendleman5707

    @jimhendleman5707

    5 жыл бұрын

    Graham and Giorgio are totally full of BS. Read my Book!!! H

  • @williambernardfranco8153

    @williambernardfranco8153

    4 жыл бұрын

    Someone moved those huge stones our bodies have developed to what they are today that takes millions of years

  • @williambernardfranco8153

    @williambernardfranco8153

    4 жыл бұрын

    Those idiots who think the Egyptians built the first structures are the second ones who think we are one of the few civilizations we are one of many and we are not advanced I think we have taken steps back

  • @williambernardfranco8153

    @williambernardfranco8153

    4 жыл бұрын

    I meant we are not the most advanced it's sad that we don't have written records present teachers don't have much to work with

  • @jimhendleman5707

    @jimhendleman5707

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@williambernardfranco8153 Dear Wm: You are mistaken. We are part of the 4th Civilization only. The Adamic; the Jaredites; The Nephites; and our current civilization. The Adamic is from the biblical Genesis and only lasted 602 years, Genesis from Chapter 5-12 is not correctly translated; The Jaredites (Book of Mormon) lasted about 2,530 years. The Jaredites colonized throughout our solar system; the Nephites (Book of Mormon) lasted about 1000 years;

  • @hameremekuria9214
    @hameremekuria92145 жыл бұрын

    Not yet to know there are so many make America is America

  • @josephw4830
    @josephw48305 жыл бұрын

    More important question. When did archeology stop caring about facts, and start pushing fairy tales. Why hide our history?

  • @Xiccarph1

    @Xiccarph1

    5 жыл бұрын

    Several reasons, all centered around status, group acceptance and adhering to the permitted paradigms of humanity's past. "Forbidden archeology" is out there however, but always laughed at by the "Professionals".

  • @josephw4830

    @josephw4830

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Xiccarph1 I doubt ANY of psyence's explanations address anything real -especially anything having to do history or truth. Every war today is a fabrication and manipulation of public view. Seems to me, they want to make us think we are small, insignificant and worthless - while they plans new, creative ways, to KILL US OFF.

  • @josephw4830

    @josephw4830

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Xiccarph1 Those laughing 'professionals' can be replaced. ;)

  • @barneyrubble4827

    @barneyrubble4827

    5 жыл бұрын

    Isn't it obvious? There were very powerful forces in use by many ancient cultures, the weak explanations for things that don't add up are numerous. Knowledge is power and it is flaunted in the open as they find it so easy to lie endlessly virtually without challenge from ordinarys. Sheeple just accept the lies, preoccupied by countless distractions like politics, materialism and social conflicts stoked by the media. If avg folks knew the cosmic power they possess, chaos would ensue for the "elites"

  • @glidingmoose

    @glidingmoose

    4 жыл бұрын

    Why hide our history? Can you possibly be that naive? I can think of a hundred reasons why someone may wish to hide an archeological discovery. You can't think of one reason? Not very bright.

  • @erikschiegg68
    @erikschiegg684 жыл бұрын

    With respect, these carals that do not master megalithic construction at all, they are certainly not the oldest civilization. They are just survivors with amnesia of the pre flood high civilization.

  • @ecuadorexpat8558

    @ecuadorexpat8558

    4 жыл бұрын

    unchartedruins.blogspot.com/2014/09/the-vitrified-ruins-of-ancient-peru.html

  • @etchalaco9971

    @etchalaco9971

    4 жыл бұрын

    In Caral what was dated was the Shicra bags, organic material underneath the pyramids. This is as solid as it gets. What's at the bottom preceeds what is on top.

  • @chaobankhoi2123
    @chaobankhoi21234 жыл бұрын

    When has religion ever been peaceful

  • @garywheeler7039

    @garywheeler7039

    4 жыл бұрын

    Probably means there is no evidence of human sacrifice like there is in other parts of central america. And, no cannibalism.

  • @destrywelch9536
    @destrywelch95364 жыл бұрын

    What was the oldest civilization in America prior to this discovery? What happens when we find even older areas? I wish speculation wouldn't be presented as factual??

  • @JohnSmith-dp1vv
    @JohnSmith-dp1vv3 жыл бұрын

    How old is this place? Anyone

  • @SOFTPOISON

    @SOFTPOISON

    3 жыл бұрын

    3000 yrs BC

  • @unit411
    @unit4119 жыл бұрын

    has anyone found traces of mercury around the stone ring ?

  • @JA-rn5qv

    @JA-rn5qv

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yes however one of the researchers said its impossible to be from the time when the stone rings were in use so he thought the mercury was accidentally left behind by miners from centuries ago. What he didn't explain though is why the mercury was only found within the channel of the stone ring if it was an accident.

  • @jaysinkoregaokar288

    @jaysinkoregaokar288

    4 жыл бұрын

    what is the significance of mercury ?

  • @jo61666
    @jo616664 жыл бұрын

    Why have a million people seen this but only 5 k likes

  • @Ahuuakh-Amerindian
    @Ahuuakh-Amerindian2 жыл бұрын

    GRATITUDE....

  • @ricblic901
    @ricblic9014 жыл бұрын

    why do we always look at prehistory from a European Mideastern lens, we view ancient American people differently, they built roads, irrigation systems, buildings and had a working calendar and artwork but when we depict these people they look like the american indian of the old western films long hair headbands in loin cloth standing around a fire, didn't they have homes to go to, and why would a civilized people have open fires in their cities, maybe we rethink how these people really lived and interacted

  • @youngsavag666

    @youngsavag666

    4 жыл бұрын

    There’s a HUGE difference between central/south American Indians to the North American Indian

  • @bobdownie.2806

    @bobdownie.2806

    3 жыл бұрын

    Because other cultures did not have much actual knowledge.....whilst they may have been beautiful in their own unique ways, our culture is vastly superior to any other that has ever come before. Would you try to interpret the dynamics of flight from an Aztec point of view? If you do then you will just fail to understand how flight actually works. This might sound arrogant and elitist, but it is also true.

  • @namedrop721

    @namedrop721

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@bobdownie.2806 the Mahabarata would like a word with you.

  • @theclephane2914

    @theclephane2914

    3 жыл бұрын

    Because he is European!

  • @keisi1574

    @keisi1574

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@bobdownie.2806 All your precious false paradigms are crumbling. 😋

  • @philipfreeman72
    @philipfreeman725 жыл бұрын

    There have been 83 peoples before us.

  • @scottalan4655
    @scottalan46555 жыл бұрын

    wouldn't you want to keep people away from those areas until they were completely understood or do you need the money now

  • @luddity

    @luddity

    5 жыл бұрын

    It costs a lot of money to do all these painstaking excavations properly. They need tourism to support their efforts.

  • @etchalaco9971

    @etchalaco9971

    4 жыл бұрын

    Come On! Peru is not that expensive.

  • @landoc05
    @landoc05 Жыл бұрын

    Why are ALL videos about Peruvian history full of nutcases in the comments? It doesn't happen with anyone else.

  • @briankane3214
    @briankane32144 жыл бұрын

    Been saying this for years man we alot older than we know thats why people cant say the first civilization no more there was probably civilization before the ice age

  • @carnavarcarnavar151
    @carnavarcarnavar1515 жыл бұрын

    At the end you guys never made clear how old is this civilization?

  • @willflores2022

    @willflores2022

    10 ай бұрын

    5000 years

  • @loscaminosdelahormiga2571
    @loscaminosdelahormiga25715 жыл бұрын

    Soy muy exigente, así que sólo aplausos ligeros. Les falta muuuuucho!

  • @HarryElmore-jl2pj
    @HarryElmore-jl2pj4 жыл бұрын

    advanced civilized man has been on earth millions of years MILLIONS

  • @gordonjohnson6794

    @gordonjohnson6794

    4 жыл бұрын

    A statement without evidence.

  • @HarryElmore-jl2pj

    @HarryElmore-jl2pj

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@gordonjohnson6794 If they had any do you think they would expose it ?

  • @gordonjohnson6794

    @gordonjohnson6794

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@HarryElmore-jl2pj You would expect that they would, but for some people, it is a case of "I KNOW, and don't care about evidence."

  • @owencampbell4947
    @owencampbell49474 жыл бұрын

    This is teaching history in zig-zag if you know what I mean.

  • @theresealvarado1137
    @theresealvarado11374 жыл бұрын

    WOULD LIKE INFO RE: ACCOMPANYING MUSIC. GREAT DISCOVERY OF CARAL. THANK YOU!

  • @aporist
    @aporist5 жыл бұрын

    There is a 'stargate' in Caral and I know this before knowing what's Caral and where it is as I was there with my quantum replica, we all have, when I was a teenager. We ALL travel in time and space but as it happens in state of consciousness we are not inclined to analyze these 'dreams' with sound logics - we think that these are traces and combinations of segments of our every day material life. Yes, some of our dreams are quite earthly (don't know why but I never had such) but there are dreams where we ALL open doors to other realities. One day physicist, biophycists, geneticians, historians etc. should tell us sories.

  • @aporist

    @aporist

    5 жыл бұрын

    @Baltimorean Adventures raw unedited content In your pockets, search carefully, though some people put it in their socks to avoid the raids of pickpockets.

  • @jchrg2336

    @jchrg2336

    Жыл бұрын

    Dreams explain something and every dream needs to be carefully read/ analysed... If you for instance dream of animals it tells you something If you dream of violence for instance you being shot at or attacked but don't see blood in your dream means you escaped it or so on & so on.. Keep an animal as your pet a bird/chicken or a dog or something alike a turtle or lizard because negative energies tent to harm or attack those / them ( animals) first Dream of animals a lot means you might for instance return as one of those or an other animals Dream of humans often for instance means you might return to earth as a human It is not easy to explain.. The power of positivity is overwhelming and much more positive energy/ energies surrounds us humans no a day. Good day

  • @goingrawwithhuck3047
    @goingrawwithhuck30474 жыл бұрын

    I personally think when the earth’s land mass was “Pangea” there were humans, mankind or men/women that were all living on it and that’s why these civilizations are all so similar...

  • @swimmer8585

    @swimmer8585

    4 жыл бұрын

    Pangea broke apart when the dinosaurs walked the earth. That’s not possible. Humans couldn’t have ever existed with dinosaurs

  • @goingrawwithhuck3047

    @goingrawwithhuck3047

    4 жыл бұрын

    Who says humans couldn’t have existed? Dinosaur were dumb and humans are very intelligent and could’ve easily survived... There is no explanation on how people of Kemet were all over the earth before any race of people...

  • @swimmer8585

    @swimmer8585

    4 жыл бұрын

    Michael Harrison because humans evolved from mammals. Mammals were able to evolve in any significant way besides small rodent sized creature until the dinosaurs that filled the niches were extinct. If that asteroid hadn’t hit earth mammals wouldn’t have become the dominant species on earth because there would have been way too much competition from dinosaurs

  • @swimmer8585

    @swimmer8585

    4 жыл бұрын

    Michael Harrison the mammal that all placental mammals evolved from didn’t even evolve until after the dinosaurs went extinct

  • @wfcoaker1398

    @wfcoaker1398

    4 жыл бұрын

    Seven

  • @jmmmg3347
    @jmmmg33474 жыл бұрын

    I wonder what it was like in year 1

  • @thomascassler9494

    @thomascassler9494

    4 жыл бұрын

    a hot molten glob of rock , then just add water !

  • @michaeljohnson1117
    @michaeljohnson11174 жыл бұрын

    Love how they say things they could not possibly know and present it as fact. Like how they say it was all accomplished by and based around controlling people through religion. What is there evidence of that besides how religion controls people now and in the more recent past.

  • @igor-yp1xv

    @igor-yp1xv

    2 жыл бұрын

    They use archeological evidence, it can allow for a lot of speculation. They aren't just projecting things from today out of nowhere.

  • @johnminshull2702
    @johnminshull27024 жыл бұрын

    Some of those ruins are supposed to be pyramid bases. I do not understand why the world over the ancients had such a love affair with these structures. They are huge, with no apparent use.

  • @josephw4830

    @josephw4830

    4 жыл бұрын

    @John Minshull Oh, they function, most definitely. You will, however, have to did a lot deeper if you want to understand more of their purpose. Academia has withheld the purpose for control reasons.

  • @etchalaco9971

    @etchalaco9971

    4 жыл бұрын

    same as skyscrapers today.

  • @Stephangarcia79
    @Stephangarcia795 жыл бұрын

    Title should read..".....that we know of."

  • @josephw4830

    @josephw4830

    4 жыл бұрын

    The title should read: Another guess(story), by clowns, trying to hide the real history from the masses.