The Ferengi weren't being tricked; Freeman just did exactly as Rom and Leeta were hoping she'd do. The Federation were so focused on testing the Ferengi that they didn't think the Ferengi might be testing them as well.

@Jokie155

7 ай бұрын

The Federation were focused on appeasement, you mean. Sadly a repeating trend given the whole mess with the Romulans, the Maquis, the Dominion in the mind-simulation, etc etc... They're far too obsessed with getting peace that they give up way too much for it a lot of the time. This was just another example that thankfully didn't have massive fallout since it was averted for once.

@RAdaltonracer

7 ай бұрын

100% agreed! And all pulled off by the amazing acting of both Rom and Leeta, and Chase Masterson and Max Grodenchik.

@danielhaire6677

7 ай бұрын

While we all might debate her leadership abilities at times, it's various moments like this that show precisely WHY Freeman is sitting in the center seat of a Starfleet vessel.

@Rycel2001

7 ай бұрын

I love that it was the goofy, comedy cartoon show to highlight and subvert one of people's biggest gripes with the "insidious Federation", especially after a lot of the post-DS9 media increasingly portrays them as militaristic and authoritarian: Collectivism does not necessitate cultural assimilation as well. To truly understand people you need to communicate with them on their terms. It's not enough to just say "I respect you" while asking them to change their behaviors and views, you need to show that you understand where they are coming from and how they can be a part of a whole without giving up what makes them unique. Lower Decks is more Star Trek than Star Trek has been in a long, long time.

@redrasegarden

6 ай бұрын

So she did it right? Cool. 😎

Rom and Lita are ruling fairly, but still with that classic Ferengi focus on business, very nice.

@doomedbringer

8 ай бұрын

Rom might have turned into a somewhat nice guy by the end of deep space 9 but in the end he will ALWAYS be a ferangi

@Mandalorianof501st

8 ай бұрын

Quark has business skills. Rom has business ethics

@UPRailRoad-xg8cb

8 ай бұрын

Through the episode, I was dumbfounded as to why they were acting this way because it was such a drastic change from how they were on DS9. Then this scene came on, and I just said, "That's Absolutely Brilliant".

@Droopsnooot

8 ай бұрын

there has been a bit of a timeskip since ds9 so they would have changed to fit the job but their core is still there@@UPRailRoad-xg8cb

@snewsh

6 ай бұрын

I was a bit worried they'd have gotten rid if the greedy ferengi completely.

He’s not just some Ferengi, he’s Rom, the Grand Nagus!

@thesailormercury2

8 ай бұрын

does he not remember one of the rules a contract a contract

@MammaKush88

8 ай бұрын

And thats Leeta right 😍?

@CaptainBardiel

8 ай бұрын

He's a Union Man

@blackreaper2247

8 ай бұрын

@@thesailormercury2 but only between ferengi

@JayJayM57

8 ай бұрын

@@blackreaper2247 yes and no. they need a level of trustworthiness or others would not trade with them. so the Nagus would uphold the contract but lower ferengir can cheat other races.

Chase Masterson's reading of "Kronos the Klingon Homeworld!? That's impossible!" absolutely killed it. Honestly they both killed it this episode, it was like Max never skipped a day the man is a legend.

@Jeroscope

8 ай бұрын

Chase Masterson has been keeping up quite well actually. She's been an active participant in Star Trek Online's story development reprising her role as Leeta.

@tichtran664

5 ай бұрын

Plus the Klingons ENSLAVED other species. They DON'T believe in federation equality for themselves ( Klingons nobility) or their conquered species.

@tichtran664

5 ай бұрын

Honor and good and evil NOT necessarily the same thing to Klingons.

"A contract, is a contract, is a contract... but only between Ferengi." - 17th Rule of Acquisition. I'd still reread that new contract captain.

@cristsan4171

8 ай бұрын

Unless it's a ROM. Better start deleting those ROM to free up the computer's memory space. Starting with the OS.

@graememontrose1741

8 ай бұрын

Yeah, but Freeman can use Rom's 'you swindled like a true Ferengi' line to claim herself an honorary Ferengi. That should give her some leeway, methinks.

@kasbakgaming

8 ай бұрын

But don't forget Rule of Acquisition 284 - Deep down, everyone's a Ferengi.

@thesailormercury2

8 ай бұрын

@@kasbakgaming let us not forget the 16 rule of acquisition a deal is a deal

@PerryWhyte

8 ай бұрын

Since his son Nog is a member of Starfleet and the Federation, Rom IS technically making a contract with a Ferengi.

Rom, reasonable as ever. Love that he kept up with his baseball practice.

@wisey105

8 ай бұрын

The ironic thing is the actor that played Rom was actually a baseball player. In the episode, he played left-handed since that was the only way he could look like he was playing poorly.

@vguyver2

8 ай бұрын

​@@wisey105Exactly. He's a legitimate good athlete. The same thing happened to Jaleel White, who played a nerd but was actually very athletic. Hell, even a Larry from the Three Stooges was a incredibly good Boxer in his own right. Never underestimate an actor.

@WardNightstone

8 ай бұрын

i bet the ferengi ytook to baseball once the realsied you could be on an INSANE amount of statistics in the game

@Igarappappa

8 ай бұрын

​@@WardNightstoneOr at least the merchandising.

@singletona082

7 ай бұрын

@@WardNightstoneOh dear LORD the stat tracking is the fun part.

100% respect to that admiral for owning up to the fact that he fucked up and underestimated the Grand Negus and for him giving Captain Freeman credit. I'm glad he didn't give a homicidal AI starship full autonomy to cover up his mistake.

@Superman-jr1rm

8 ай бұрын

That’s mighty specific lol

@roccotaco1843

8 ай бұрын

@@Superman-jr1rmyeah that’s not really what I expect a good friend to do

@NelsonChen68686

8 ай бұрын

@@roccotaco1843less than good friends though...

@Jestersage

8 ай бұрын

@@roccotaco1843 But he is a good friend? That's right in his name!

@daniels7907

8 ай бұрын

It is amazing. Admirals are usually evil, not stupid.

“I swear I had nothing to do with this.” “You’re lucky she did.” Ooo! I felt that burn!

@hfar_in_the_sky

8 ай бұрын

Also, I love how they say she "Swindled them" (as a compliment of course), but I'm sure in Freeman's mind it was actually a fair exchange. Because if the Ferengi actually managed somehow to bring the Klingons into the Federation as a full member species, then hell. They'd DESERVE a billion bars of gold pressed latinum and all those other demands!

@daniels7907

8 ай бұрын

@@hfar_in_the_sky - That's how Rom sees it. Ferengi culture being based on exchange, the Federation would look pathetic if they gave all that away just to get the Ferengi on board. But by adding a contractual obligation to provide a fair value exchange (and bringing Qo'noS into the Federation would totally be worth an unimaginable payout) Rom can say, truthfully, that the Federation drove a hard bargain for all those special requirements. Which, of course, any Ferengi would respect. In negotiations, you aim high and negotiate your way down to the real deal.

@hfar_in_the_sky

8 ай бұрын

@@daniels7907 Very true! And you bring up a good point with the bit about other ferengi respecting this action. If you think about it, Rom probably would’ve looked weak to the other ferengi if he just signed the initial contract without at least trying to swindle the Federation. This allows him to save face and prove to other ferengi that the Federation can negotiate and swindle on the same level as the ferengi, which proves the Federation will be good business partners

@daniels7907

8 ай бұрын

@@hfar_in_the_sky Thanks! It struck me that Rom actually likes the Federation (Nog even has a career in Starfleet). But he can't be seen just allowing the Federation to show up with a standard contract and signing it without trying to make a better deal. The Federation didn't outright refuse his list of terms, but they (i.e. Freeman) expected a return of comparable value from the deal. Which is totally in line with Ferengi culture. As Leeta said, the Grand Nagus can't sign a membership agreement with a bunch of "suckers and rubes". It would look bad. Whereas saying that both sides made big demands and then agreed to a more economical deal when neither wanted to have to pay that much is standard business practice.

@shotgun6X

8 ай бұрын

@@hfar_in_the_sky well, the privilege to use any federation ship at any time would still be a bit much

I appreciate that only Rom could get Ferenginar to join the Federation. What a historical moment. Like the old Vulcan proverb. _Only Nixon could go to China_

@deathcatg

8 ай бұрын

I just realized this pretty much sets up the Ferengi in the 32nd Century episodes of "Discovery".

@Novarcharesk

8 ай бұрын

And that’s totally why I bought it immediately. If the Ferengi were EVER going to join the Federation, it was going to be under Rom for sure. At least he would start the process. Love how the lore fits so well.

@TheMrPeteChannel

6 ай бұрын

I would be a hoot if the Ferengi join the Feds before Bajor.

@Bionickpunk

5 ай бұрын

​@@TheMrPeteChannel Think Leeta would push for Bajor joining around the same time, similar things happened in real life in the EU.

@TheAtkey

Ай бұрын

It is an historic moment. For that phrase to apply Rom would have had to have been an anti-Federation hawk like Nixon was an hawk anticommunist his whole career. Rom of course wasn't so he for political reasons to guard against criticism had to try and swindle the Federation only for the Federaton to show it's lobes and swindle them back. This probably saiciated the more conservative elements of Ferengi society who felt the Federation was incompatable with Ferengi society.

I love the fact that this episode shows how smart Rom really always has been since DS9 and simultaneously showing how much of a shrewd businesswoman Leeta is too (we really didn’t get to see much of that side in DS9)

@appropriate-channelname3049

8 ай бұрын

Rom was not the smart or kind at the start of ds9. I mean he litterally acts as a pawn in murdering his own brother in season 1

@bosstowndynamics5488

8 ай бұрын

​​@@appropriate-channelname3049Rom was naive and clueless from a business dealing perspective, but that was largely disinterest rather than true idiocy, in the later seasons he got a lot of character development that showed he was very intelligent when he was actually interested in something and was a very skilled engineer as a result. Given the gap between the end of DS9 even he was made the Grand Nagus and this episode, the skills of his wife and his interest in being a good Nagus, the fact he's now showing skill in business dealings is perfectly in line with his character now.

@meligoth

7 ай бұрын

In the DS9 universe, Nog lives on as a son who is proud of his dad who is being the best Ferengi he can be, and more than likely gave him a few pointers on dealing with Starfleet red tape.

@thewewguy8t88

7 ай бұрын

You know bajorons still seemed to have a bit of an economy despite the occupation. I think it was Latium based which apart from the federation maybe klingons and Romulans seems like It's the universal currency for most alpha quadrant species that has warp drive.

@sashmiel6566

7 ай бұрын

That would be because this little tidbit was a stretching moment.

I see Sisko's influence has rubbed off on Rom. Batter up! ⚾🦇😛

@andrewstephen2359

8 ай бұрын

Fun fact the actor is fantastic at baseball IRL. So much so that in the DS9 baseball episode, the only way he could make Rom look convincingly bad onscreen was to play left handed.

@MisterMarin

8 ай бұрын

@@andrewstephen2359Huh. So, GDI Commando was right. That was left handed! 😛

@bladegtr34

2 күн бұрын

A ball game on the holodeck with a cold ice chest full of rootbeer

I flipped when Max Grodènchik returned as Grand Nagus Rom and he's still with Leeta which makes me extra happy

@gedias1

8 ай бұрын

And Leeta being played again by Chase Masterson herself.

@ffnbbq

8 ай бұрын

Both actors (along with much of DS9's cast) returned in a reunion season in Star Trek Online, and in a sequel mission to The Magnificent Ferengi, you play as their characters in a heist. During the recent Star Trek Cruise, both actors appeared in the costumes resembling STO's Mirror Leeta Terran Empire uniform.

@DinsRune

6 ай бұрын

I love how much Lower Decks is committed to _not_ recasting roles- they even brought back Lycia Naff to reprise Sonya Gomez!

@ptonpc

5 ай бұрын

I met him once at a convention in Glasgow. He overdid it a bit with the whisky and needed to wear sunglasses. At one point he was waiting for a lift (elevator) when someone told him he looked terrible and asked if he had any sleep. The lift came, he stepped in and replied as Rom "I've had whisky, I've had beer, I've had..." as the door shut and he was whisked upstairs.

I love how she essentially used the same tactic the rulers were using with the Admiral as the dumb cop, and she did it SO smoothly.

It’s nice seeing Lita and Rom doing well for themselves

@GODCONVOYPRIME

8 ай бұрын

Wish we could say the same for that han and leia so sad they ended up all dying so stupidly. Oh well.

@carlycrays2831

8 ай бұрын

​@@GODCONVOYPRIMEBig difference in franchises. Star Wars is all about sadness and pain

@Tigerkaya

7 ай бұрын

​@@carlycrays2831I mean they are owned by Disney there's already sadness in that.

@emmiannon1266

6 ай бұрын

Love that they got the actors in for them both too

@sparrowlt

4 ай бұрын

@@GODCONVOYPRIME im sure had Disney let Filoni and the history group control the content it would turned out much better for them...

Man look at Rom now, gone is the nervous and self depricating ferengi we knew, hes grown into a confident and just ruler. He showed ferngi culture that you can get filthy rich and still be the good guys, getting ferengi buisnesses exclusive rights to rebuild cardasia being one of his major victories.

@cthulhluftagn3812

8 ай бұрын

"Scam, embezzle and con to your hearts content, you just dont have to be a dick about it."

@WTSD850

8 ай бұрын

yeah I thought he'd stll be a joke even as the grand nagus

@sunshinecarnivores1919

8 ай бұрын

Bet Quark is eating his words by this point.

@Clone683

8 ай бұрын

Leeta seemed different too. She went full Ferengi

@cthulhluftagn3812

8 ай бұрын

@@Clone683 from dabo girl to empress

I like Rom's newly developed ruthlessness along with his reaction to being swindled by Captain Freeman. It was almost like he wanted to say "Well played".

I think my favorite part about this, is that by Leeta saying Rom couldnt sign with a bunch of rubes, it showed he had no intention of following through with his version of the contract. Theoritcally it would have given him and the Ferengai a lot of leverage over the Federation, but working with someone who so blindly gives in to such ridiculous demands is terrible business practice. I'm fairly certain that if Freeman hadn't stepped in and the Admiral was able to actually finalize all of that, Rom would have called the whole thing off and walked away.

@forrestpenrod2294

6 ай бұрын

100%. Rom and Leeta’s game wasn’t for their own benefit but for those on the fence about Federation membership and those in opposition who can still be convinced otherwise. Freeman’s shrewdness, strength, and respect for Ferengi culture shows that Federation membership will be a partnership.

I love that Rom and Leeta aren't pushovers and that they were running circles around the Admiral. 😁

@jeremydale4548

4 ай бұрын

Proving that the Federation are more pushovers then they are.

This is later tought in ferengi schools as the "Freeman Shuffle" where one part of a negotiating group willingly humiliates themself as cover for the overlooked partner to add clauses to a contract. A risky manuver that requires trust, but one that could benifit both enourmasly.

Not the first time Rom's been screwed by the fine print...

@Norinia

8 ай бұрын

True, but if I’d wager a guess, his rule encourages the Ferengi to keep themselves in line, since if they f^ck up, their business then goes in front of the Grand Negas, who may f%ck things up for them even more :)

@minhtrungle9117

8 ай бұрын

⁠@@NoriniaThe Grand Nagus is a reasonable man. Simply deposit 75% of your quarterly revenue to his account and he MAY consider not sending you to indentured servitude.

Could see half jokes of Freeman bringing Quark to assist them with making their contract after being smarter than Rom only for Rom to bring in their mother to check if the contract is good or not.

@DrakeossDragoon

8 ай бұрын

While still calling her "Moogie" lol

@Brasswatchman

8 ай бұрын

Oh, like Quark's gonna negotiate against his own people. He has pride, you know? Which means they'd need to pay extra.

@thesailormercury2

8 ай бұрын

@@Brasswatchman but he would also suck up to the Boss

@tyrant-den884

8 ай бұрын

Leeta: "Keeping that from happening is probably at least half my job here."

Oh, I've got to watch this episode. To have the OG actors for Rom and Lita VA on the show....this is going to be wonderful to watch, and I think Freeman is going to be an admiral soon.

@KenshiImmortalWolf

8 ай бұрын

It's characters like freeman who make me think starfleet should still have the commedore rank for people who clearly should be ahead of other captains but who aren't really built for the admiralty.

@bthsr7113

8 ай бұрын

@@KenshiImmortalWolfGoodness knows that Starfleet covers enough of space to warrant more tiers of command.

@Jestersage

8 ай бұрын

@@KenshiImmortalWolf Unfortunately commodore is still flag officer. That being said, the few commodore we see post TNG is the head of a department (Oh) or a starbase (LaForge)

@KenshiImmortalWolf

8 ай бұрын

@@Jestersage now how i'd use them honestly but alright

@spyrofan9681

8 ай бұрын

I think she'll still turn it down, she wants to be out there doing stuff, if she took a promotion that would ground her it'd have to president of the federation.

Swindler respect Swindler. Strange culture.

@CJ-442

8 ай бұрын

Not really. It’s basically like a credit check in our world. Sure, the Federation may be rich (in the material sense) and powerful now, but if people like that admiral are running the show, they won’t be for very long. What’s the point of joining the Federation if they’re just gonna drag you down in a generation or two?

@JohnPeacekeeper

8 ай бұрын

I consider it like an entrepreneur's version of mutual warrior respect

@Brasswatchman

8 ай бұрын

Game recognize game.

@dragonmaster613

8 ай бұрын

Welcome to Capitalism. _Especially_ Libertarian Randian Capitalism 🤮.

@Quetzalcoatl_Feathered_Serpent

8 ай бұрын

Not really. it means neither can backstabe the other and knows the game so they respect that and can work fairly with each other as both will be able to recognize if the other is trying to swindle them. Literally knowing a possible swindler is one of the 101's of trading.

Rom has come a long way since, as Odo stated in S1, he "couldn't fix a straw if it was bent" and Leeta has evolved from the dabo girl we knew into First Clerk of the Ferengi Alliance!

Rom and Leeta, makes me miss Nog (may Aron Eisenberg rest in peace).

@spritemon98

8 ай бұрын

Aww what???

@tomlillis7830

8 ай бұрын

@@spritemon98 He passed away a few years ago, sadly. Long term struggle with congenital kidney disease.

@spritemon98

8 ай бұрын

@@tomlillis7830 that's sad

Ok but knowing Rom's family there's a non-zero chance he might actually be able to convince the Klingon Empire to join the Federation.

@TrueZero2

8 ай бұрын

Especially considering Rom was temporarily a relation to a noble house… for all of what, 3 days?

@Doomwolf82002

8 ай бұрын

@@TrueZero2 However Quark is still on good term with Grilka as he later won her heart (with some help from Worf) as shown in the DS9 episode *Looking for par'Mach in All the Wrong Places* .

@timfortune9

8 ай бұрын

Well, for whatever it's worth, according to "Enterprise", the Klingons are members of the Federation by the 26th century. I can also totally buy that it's due to some combination of Rom, Quark, and Nog more than Worf. Martok did take quite a shine to Nog.

@red-eyespundragon9920

7 ай бұрын

Clearly Quark marries Grika making his family legally part of the empire and Nog pushes his luck with Klingons loitering and ends up fighting Martok and defeating him in single combat

@DoremiFasolatido1979

21 күн бұрын

@@timfortune9 I'm pretty sure it's a little of everything. Klingon culture experiencing a reformation in their ideas of honor, focusing less on the glory of battle (but not completely losing it), and more on the nobility of purpose, and living righteously. Then the various ties between Ferengi leadership and certain Klingon Houses. And the strengthening of the bonds between the House of Martok and the Federation. I can see Klingon society ultimately being pretty open to the idea, just because the members of their culture who could never have been great warriors, would have the opportunity to find a great deal of respect and purpose by joining Starfleet for the things they ARE good at. There are probably quite a few Klingons who, like anybody, have far broader and less martial passions in life. No culture is monolithic, after all. I'd love to see a Klingon doctor with a really inappropriately morbid sense of humor when things are loose, but is astonishingly gentle and compassionate when his patients need it. Keeps a d'k tahg on his surgical tray just for laughs.

best part of this episode was seeing Tendi in that black evening dress, and having Leeta and Rom's actors return to voice them again.

Remember Rule of Acquisition 17: A contract is a contract is a contract…but only between Ferengi.

There’s a lot of clever writing in this scene. Rom and Leeta were testing the entire time. The first offer is an insane proposal that no one would ever offer (unlimited use of ships even if the deal was off), then compounded by a literally impossible offer (“we don’t even have back end book deals any more”). Leeta and Rom are concerned when the admiral agrees. Rom suggests one final test- direct personal humiliation. The admiral agrees. The deal was off unless Capt Freeman intervened, which she did and which gave Leeta and Rom enough confidence the federation had decent deal makers that they could work with them.

She did try to tell the Admiral about the 10th Rule of Acquisition earlier.

@CaptainBardiel

8 ай бұрын

Greed is Eternal

@LinguaPhiliax

8 ай бұрын

@@CaptainBardiel You know the rules better than he does!

Holly crap. Leeta and Rom? This actually warms my heart.

Neat that the 8th rule of acquisition is now officially canon after originally appearing in a real world reference book.

Imagine if the Klingons canonically joined the Federation because of the Ferengi had to bring them in.

@evanthompson7494

8 ай бұрын

I think it's stated somewhere that the Klingon do join the Federation in the 26th century. Guess now we know how.

@timfortune9

8 ай бұрын

@@evanthompson7494 As soon as they said it was Qo'noS that they had to recruit, I immediately thought of that future.

@cane6074

8 ай бұрын

@@evanthompson7494 In one of the timelines at least, but it was the Temporal Cold War so things are up in the air on that one. I hope they don't join because that would lead to fundamental change in Klingon culture, which means they would lose what we love about them, though I hope their Civilization goes down a more Progressive path but retain their core essence as a people.

i think what i loved most was the ending when rom was talking about his batting, shows that he still carrys sisko's love of baseball

@ianweber9248

7 ай бұрын

It’s even deeper than that. Max Grodénchik, the actor that plays Rom, was actually the best baseball player among the regular cast of DS9. He had to play left handed to even remotely portray Rom’s ineptness at the game.

The Ferengi in the federation. Never thought I’d see the day. Sisko would be proud.

Rom.The greatest rags to riches success story in all of Trek. So Quark... about those vaunted franchised bars you opened...

@DaSuDanesi

7 ай бұрын

To be fair, Quark may not be Nagus, but at least according to STO, he’s still doing quite well for himself. Even bought that small moon he was dreaming of.

@willadeefriesland5107

7 ай бұрын

@@DaSuDanesi true. As elder brother it has to vex him a little. I guess he lives by 'Don't let family get in the way of profits, use them.'...

@wkcia

7 ай бұрын

Quark seems to have just about cornered the entertainment market across the entire Federation by 2400, no doubt helped by his younger brother’s wise (but still profitable) move to bring Ferenginar into the UFP. He’s doing quite fine.

Modern ferengi seem to view being scammed like we do a particularly cunning slight of hand magic trick

@Timeward76

8 ай бұрын

I mean, to them it pretty much is. A skillful display of deception, theatrics and gab.

**1 year later** Klingon: Qapla, Humans, we are joining the Federation Freeman and the rest of starfleet:

@jeremydale4548

3 күн бұрын

I genuinely wouldn’t be surprised if ONE ferengi tried to just for bragging rights.

Ferengi baseballnis a terrifying mix of sport, long con and gambeling where everyone, from the fans to the announcers, are part of the game. Its one of the few sports where being bottom of the leugue is just as admirable as top. "1000 games and not a single win, there self sabotage technique is out of this world! Go Narms Match Throwers!"

“ Who wants to check out the batting cages? No charge!…. Welllll, smol charge.” Anyway, is nice to see Leeta and Rom still chugging away at leadership (without somehow getting swindled out of it.)

Imagine if Quark was Grand Nagus. He’d catch that caveat

@davidgeslani48

8 ай бұрын

Quark wouldn't try to join the Federation in the first place

@wittylibrarian

8 ай бұрын

If it was Quark, he could have brought Q'onos into the Federation through his connections with Grilka!

@Beerbottles123

8 ай бұрын

@@davidgeslani48 He probably would tho.... If his supply of Root beer is threatened.

0:45...I love how a Ferengi uses a Human idiom when talking to a Bajoran....you can tell they both spent time around hoomons!

Omg, Nog would be so proud.

MAN when the Ferengi are formally members negotiating with the federation is gonna be a NIGHTMARE

@stormsurge2103

8 ай бұрын

“Brunt, FDC.(Federation Diplomatic Corps.)

@WardNightstone

4 ай бұрын

@@stormsurge2103 more like FTC Fediration Trade Commision

It's great hearing Max and Chase's voices in this. 😃

*LOWER DECKS! LOWER DECKS! LOWER DECKS!!*

The people behind Lower decks must love 90's Trek, and for good reason!

Reminds me of how Picard played the Sheliak.

I won't confirm that I broke into a fit of maniacal Tim Curry laughter...

I like how they captured Chase Masterson's IRL voluptuosity in animated form. I have to be honest that Chase is definite eye-candy, but she is also a damn good actress. Come on, you have to have felt the same pain she felt when (newly married) Rom asked Leeta about the sonic showers in their quarters (when he was in the brig), and all she could do was pout.

I hate people saying they made Rom stupid in this episode. He was NEVER smart, he was always a goofball who had seemingly no idea what's going on half the time, but knows people really well. Honestly, he's the perfect pick for Negus just because Ferenginar needs some hands off time to settle after that whole 'women can wear cloths' thing, as the social dynamics change...also, Lita is rocking that dress.

@DABS-gx9pt

8 ай бұрын

In this case, I would say it's just obfuscating stupidity. Rom in DS9 or in LD is much smarter than people usually think, and he doesn't care much about making them change that perception.

@Brasswatchman

8 ай бұрын

No, they made him *play* stupid, with Leeta doing the heavy lifting. In reality, they've both clearly leveled up since we last saw them.

@posindustries

8 ай бұрын

Rom was a literal genius on DS9 and was still brilliant in this episode.

@SageofStars

8 ай бұрын

@@posindustries Idiot Savant. He knows how to make people happy, and he knows engineering. He does illogical and grossly incompetent things all the time, however. That said, he's actually no worse than Zek, Quark, or ACTING Grand Nagus Brunt, in said position. Heck, the fact that he has the lovely Leta(I probably misspelled her name) by his side helps. The fact that I don't doubt he has Moogie on speed dial is probably a good thing too.

@Igarappappa

8 ай бұрын

He was clearly playing things up a bit in this episode. Except for the baseball thing, he actually was being genuine about that.

This is reminiscent of Robot Chicken's, "This deal is getting worse all the time!" 😂

A contract is a contract is a contract is a contract But only between Ferengi

@dragonmaster613

8 ай бұрын

She earned being considered a honorary Ferengi like Picard being a honorary Klingon.

But don’t forget the 17th Rule Of Acquisition. A contract is a contract is a contract . . . but only between Ferengi.

That was a scene worthy of DS9. I can't begin to tell you how much I love this.

Rom and Leeta are still going strong. Awesome.

Reminds me of negotiations with Tellarites: If you’re not brutally honest with them, you’re not worth trusting!

After 2 decades, a new rule of acquisition! And one of the "unofficial" rules to! To me, this shows the writers respect the fandom, meaning other unofficial rules are canon

@conrad4852

6 ай бұрын

I know! It's awesome.

Good to hear those familiar voices.

Somewhere in the original Quarks, the great man himself just threw a bottle of Aldebran Whiskey past Morns head at the Dabo table. “The line must be drawn HERE! This far, no further!”

Lol so cute! he still plays baseball! How many of you remember that episode from DS9?

@CJ-442

8 ай бұрын

I love the idea that after practicing regularly for a few years now, Rom is a literal pro now that could put Sisko to shame.

@MammaKush88

8 ай бұрын

@@CJ-442 Sisko is probably super proud 😂. That was such a fun episode

@starwolf99

8 ай бұрын

It's also a nod to the fact that Max Grodénchik is actually skilled in baseball. He had to switch hands to act inept as Rom

@MammaKush88

8 ай бұрын

@starwolf99 oh wow! Thank you for that info ♥

@timfortune9

8 ай бұрын

@@MammaKush88 Apparently the Ferengi actors were the best at playing baseball, while Nana Visitor (Kira) was actually the worst one. Love that episode. Sisko: "Let's hear some chatter!" Worf: "DEATH TO THE OPPOSITION!"

“Now who wants to see my batting cages?” I do!

She could have picked Romulus and did em sideways with a banjo orchestra

@combatmagi1006

8 ай бұрын

I actually thought it was going to be Romulus and not Kronos because Kronos seems slightly more attainable

@dragonking1097

8 ай бұрын

It was actually a good idea to use Kronos. Lita is right, that’s impossible. Even with certain items on the table. The Klingons would never give up their home, and the Ferengi are more likely to come back with body bags than Latinum.

@JayJayM57

8 ай бұрын

you underestimate our pointy-ear backstabers. if you told them this would bankrupt the federation, they would do it.

@dragonking1097

8 ай бұрын

@@JayJayM57 and that’s why the Klingons are a better choice. They’d rather beat the Federation in a straight up battle with actual explosions. But most of all, they would never sell their planet to the Ferengi. The Klingons would never give up Kronos without a fight, especially to a species they deem “weak” and even Rom wouldn’t want to think of the Life insurance he’d have to pay.

@joekyle6594

8 ай бұрын

Ya know, in hindsight, Romulus would've been a better choice, given that it blows up in a few years.

I love the Easter egg that Max Grodénchik almost became a pro baseball player.

I think my favorite bit here? That's not a rule they made up, it's an ALREADY EXISTING rule of acquisition!

@Brasswatchman

8 ай бұрын

But from Beta Canon! Nice to see it canonized here.

Wow, the Ferengi are joining the Federation?! Never thought I'd see the day.

I think 5 more minutes, and but for Captain Freeman's timely invocation of the 8th Rule of Acquisitions, that admiral would be wearing clown makeup and dancing naked.

It's hilarious the admiral was doing "The Floss"

Notice how deftly Rom got out of that unfavorable contract? Somebody has the lobes after all.

FUCK YEAH! BATTING CAGES!

...and just like that, it's now canon that Ferenginar is Full federation member. Awesome.

@WarGrowlmon18

Ай бұрын

It's just the first step in the process. The Ferengi still aren't members a few years later: a Ferengi ship arrived to help in the Prodigy season finale and they had specifically called for non Federation allies. However, there's plenty of Ferengi in Starfleet in the 32nd century.

For those of you wondering why Rom and Lieta put the federation through this was to save face. Even with all the benefits of joining the federation, the grand nagus allying his planet to a major player especially one who considers altruism its greatest virtue would invite doubt and suspicion about his leadership. But if the federation dupe him into joining then it shows their cunning and deception to keep fereginar safe and legitimises Rom’s position as Grand Nagus of a new ferengi society.

My boi Rom isn't just being a 'good Ferengi' anymore, he's a GREAT one. That's my Nagus.

Good to see ROM doing good. His mom would be so proud!

@Beerbottles123

8 ай бұрын

I miss Moogi.

I missed the Ferengi so damn much. I NEED MORE!

Not surprised that Freeman pulled a fast one on Rom as Quark did it all the time and how often did Quark get into trouble even with Odo keeping on his toes. Also I doubt Rom would have forced the Federation into bankruptcy as he isn't that type of guy...now Quark absolutely would have tried to make that deal work for that much latinum.

I haven't seen this kind of gaining Honorary [Species] status since Picard swore obscenities at a Klingon.

love the emoting that Leeta can do with the animation

Moments like are slowly making me not hate this show. This is great

woooo big development in the lore.

So proud of how far Rom and Lita have come.

Loved this scene. I honestly wasn't so sure, but the pay-off was excellent. And plus I missed Rom and Leeta from the DS9 episode. I miss the whole crew. But, can you imagine how many Klingons could have been in debt to the Ferengi. Considering what Quark discovered that one time he was married to a Klingon, I wouldn't put the Empire above taking loans for their infrastructure, their fleet, or even just pure depressed/boredom fueled purchasing from not having anyone to fight.

Did he really think you could deal with a Ferengi without dealing like a Ferengi?

@joeswanson733

8 ай бұрын

actually my question is why is a 4 star admiral in a contract negotiations without aide de camps. like where's his staff. he's by himself negotiating contract deals with ferengi...

@michaeldaniels642

8 ай бұрын

@@joeswanson733 cocky idiot looking for glory by claiming to be the one to finally get Ferenginar to join the federation?

Aw. Rom and Lita still together

Big DS9 fan, and it's great seeing Rom here in his full glory

The amount of bad Admirals,corrupt Admirals and incompetent Admirals make me wonder who the hell is charge of promotions if this sort of thing is constantly happening.

"Yes, I said you had to recruit another planet to earn the signing bonus, but that doesn't necessarily mean any planet of your choosing."

Rom is not exactly an idiot, but he's not above playing the fool to further his own ends or test someone. Leeta and Rom make a good couple and a good team. He had a very good character arc in DS9.

I love this show so much!

Even when the Ferengi lose, they win.

Loved Rom signature!

Leeta was such a bombshell on DS9.

Wow, that is clever.

She didn't really trick them she impressed them. And yes. It was most impressive.

This episode really makes fun of the fact that Starfleet have been total pushovers in diplomacy so many times. Also interesting that Freeman can see through all of this, maybe her times dealing with Pakleds taught her never underestimate anyone

I can’t decide from this whether Rom has proved he now has, or still lacks, the lobes for business.

Did anyone else laugh at how Carol tricked those Ferengi 😂

I love that it’s Rom who brought the ferengi into the federation. That just feels like something he would do as grand nagus.

Good to see rom and lita again

A contract is a contract is a contract!

@ChrisCa1601

4 ай бұрын

But only between Ferengi. Rule Of Acquisition 17.