They could perform it identically every time. Structured, disciplined chaos.

@childwallred

8 ай бұрын

We’ve all heard the stories of the Trout Mask Replica rehearsals in the desert,one band member said “I can’t listen to it now,it’s too traumatising”! 😂😂😂😂

@sashcramp2099

6 ай бұрын

True. I heard them play much of Trout Mask Replica live in the early 70's, after having listened to the album most nights for a year or so. I have a good musical memory and it was note-for note as I recall.

@GreenManalishiUSA

6 ай бұрын

​​@@sashcramp2099That's amazing. Do you recall whether they ever performed Frownland live? There are some TMR songs such as Ella Guru or Pachuco Cadaver that almost follow a conventional song structure in terms of having a recognizable, repeatable melody or meter. I imagine that those songs were easier to perform in concert. Frownland, however, is such a complex and intricate piece that it must have been very difficult to play live (although I don't doubt that the Magic Band was capable of doing so).

@childwallred

5 ай бұрын

Don and Zappa were special talent,loved in the UK and the rest of Europe,I'm proud I was listening and enjoying this amazing music as a teen! the weed helped too @@sashcramp2099

Always amazes me how these musicians were able to learn, memorise and perform Don’s constantly shifting gibberish.

@charleslangrishl9124

8 ай бұрын

Because they were musicians. And it wasn't gibberish. Got me!

@markbrooks7157

8 ай бұрын

@@charleslangrishl9124 yeah, it was gibberish. Don had no idea about meter or key or how to organise his phrases, leaving it up to French. BTW-I’ve met all of the Magic Band members except for Jeff Cotten. Yes, all amazing musicians.

@charleslangrishl9124

8 ай бұрын

@@markbrooks7157 well at least we can agree on one thing. But neither of us are going to move on the other. So we'll have to leave it at that. But both accept the fact that we're all dancing........ if we have any heart in us at all....... along a very fine line.

@markbrooks7157

8 ай бұрын

@@charleslangrishl9124 well, we each love TMR so we obviously have good taste.

@wbertie2604

8 ай бұрын

​​@@markbrooks7157it's great art AND he had no formal understanding of meter or key. But there has been plenty of great music that didn't abide by Western, classical and conventional ideas of meter or key. It's also worth noting things that were in the zeitgeist of the times such as discovery of African music and polyrhythms, layering of repeated loops of different lengths causing polyrhythms, minimalism, primitivism, free jazz, improvisation using repeated figures, etc.

I know this song so well that I can distinguish the handful of clams from intentional notes. But even the clams are glorious and I wouldn’t want to hear it any other way. Thanks for the upload!

They'll be talking about this unhinged masterpiece long after we're all dead.

Fascinating stuff. Please do the whole album. Then all the other albums.

An absolutely mind-bending look into Frownland. Cheers.

The bass is great

John French, one of the best Drummers of ever

@mountzod

Жыл бұрын

Incredibly talented

@williamhines7654

8 ай бұрын

What of Ed Marimba

@ronaldchives2486

8 ай бұрын

He was an incredible drummer, check out beefheart on German tv 🙂@@tomasvanecek8626

Thanks for unweaving this. You have to listen carefully, through all the various changes in metre, but the steady, regular pulse is there. Virtuoso piece of work. And Don's voice - so melodic and soulful. A piece of genius.

I suppose that isolated tracks are just the new hip way to enjoy trout mask. And yeah I could listen to the whole album this way I love it.

@johndavison4569

4 ай бұрын

The isolated tracks are an immense help in transcribing these parts and, in general, figuring out what's going on.

Cheers for your great work.

Thank u for the upload

this is amazing, thanks so much for making these

This is incredible

Love it! Thank you for all your work and for uploading.

One of my all time heroes - Pure Genius Impulse

Brilliant, my dude! Between this, other Beefheart analysis videos, and that music academic fellow named Sam who interviewed the whole band, I would say that Mr. Don Van Vliet has one hell of a legacy ahead of him!

One of my favorite songs from the album. Thanks so much for posting, I love these isolated track videos. It solves a mystery that has plagued me ever since I first heard Trout Mask Replica in 1971. I've always wondered which guitar track was played by who since both guitarists sounded so similar. Apparently Bill Harkleroad is panned to the left and Jeff Cotton is panned to the right, at least on most of the songs. Also nice to know what guitars they were playing.

Honestly i feel like this song is very bluesy if you pay attention, the isolated bass make it even more clear

wow!

great!!!!!

Wow this is insane. The fact that this shit is intentional is so wild and… awesome to me 😂

oh my god. i get it

what’s hard to hear is mark is actually playing chords on the bass. i think some of the notes unfortunately got mixed out

@ant2manbee931

23 күн бұрын

@@wretchedheaded7 Yeah, the algorithms aren't well trained for the idiosyncratic bass playing on Trout Mask. Some of the higher bass notes notes leaks into the guitar parts unfortunately.

9:05 always hits this whole song is insane. i want my owwwwn laaand.

John "Drumbo" French on drums and stuff

Wanted to chime in and say I think the guitars could be separated better & more easily. The original album's guitars are hard panned left & right. I'm guessing when you uploaded these songs to the AI it was from a mono mix? Or the AI crushed it into a mono mix? Something like that. If you take the tracks into Audacity and isolate the left & right channels as separate song mixes, I bet the guitars will come out more cleanly when the AI does its work. Great stuff!

@ant2manbee931

Жыл бұрын

That's exactly what I did, I tried widening the stereo image so I could isolate it better, but that's the best I could do.

@Snardbafulator

8 ай бұрын

They didn't record in a studio (save for Moonlight On Vermont and Veterans Day Poppy), they recorded in their group house, live, with instruments in separate rooms so there was a lot of bleed through.

@gothgrrl8711

2 ай бұрын

@@Snardbafulator They did record in a studio in fact. The only house recordings that made it to the album are hair pie bake 1, china pig, and the aceplla poems. all the other tracks except the blimp, veterans day poppy and moonlight on vermont were recorded in one six hour session at whitney studios (there are instrumental outtakes from the session on grow fins). Beefheart demanded a true studio recording as he felt that zappa was cheaping out by trying to record at the house.

This is tougher than Classical music to play

It's like, all the musicians are playing to completely different songs at the same times. Captain Beefheart lost me when he started doing this avent garde noise.

@childwallred

8 ай бұрын

Listen to it stoned! 😏

@heckinbasedandinkpilledoct7459

8 ай бұрын

@@childwallredtried that, and it sounded even worse 😂

@RaiderJay9092

5 ай бұрын

​@@heckinbasedandinkpilledoct7459shrooms

John Drumbo French

What I'd really like to hear is Flash Gordon's Ape and Japan in a Dishpan from Decals without the damned sax.

@ant2manbee931

8 ай бұрын

For Flash Gordon's Ape you can simply isolate the right channel while Japan in a Dishpan without the sax is available here on KZread, I believe.

@Snardbafulator

8 ай бұрын

@@ant2manbee931 Yeah, I recorded one channel into two on cassette for Flash Gordon's back in the day. I don't wanna dis Decals; the album's a masterpiece. But the horns are just so insanely out front in the mix. Glad Hair Pie had a second bake without 'em ;)

@ant2manbee931

8 ай бұрын

@@Snardbafulator Yes, I agree. It's good that we can hear the backing tracks on bootlegs at least. Also, Decals it's kinda complicated to isolate, especially the bass. The AI goes into a stroke trying to isolate the bass on this album, since well, it isn't a regular bass playing style. I'm working in another Captain Beefheart album, I might post more isolated tracks.

@Snardbafulator

8 ай бұрын

@@ant2manbee931 Mark Boston sounds like a regular bass player in Mallard, but with Beefheart, at least in these two albums, he just thumps and his articulation and evenness leave something to be desired. Like he's self-taught and learned how to play a month ago. Of course it works with Beefheart's music.

What is this witchery it sounds like actual music

I love it! 😍

arf

@scottbubb2946

Жыл бұрын

Is that you, Echidna?

@paoloyellowshark6547

Жыл бұрын

@@scottbubb2946 she said