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Canva is going to ruin Affinity. Here comes the subscriptions.

@avp2501

3 ай бұрын

Just look at what happened to Clip Studio Pro. That used to be perpetual. Now there's a new V every few months.

@DarkerCry

3 ай бұрын

best case scenario they have a sub fee for tools inside of affinity, like AI or cloud functions. We'll see in a few months i guess.

@jmanners

3 ай бұрын

@@avp2501True, but at least if you stop paying for the CSP updates, you can still use the program as is. Not so with Adobe stuff.

@shapeshifterstudios884

3 ай бұрын

Love Affinity. But if they, Canva, screw it up, I will stop using it the way I have done ALL of Adobe's shit.

@zpacula

3 ай бұрын

I mean, affinity specifically stated that they are not getting bought by anyone 😂

The red flags are there. "no changes to our current pricing model planned at this time" makes no commitments for the future, and "with plenty of free updates to V2 still to look forward to" has an implied "but we make no promises for 3.x and beyond"...

@hipflipped

3 ай бұрын

"At this time" = Run for the exits folks!

@Blood-PawWerewolf

3 ай бұрын

Yup. That’s been said after MANY acquisitions. It’s never true.

@tiredlocke

3 ай бұрын

​@@Blood-PawWerewolfWell, it can be true _at this time_ . They just wait a few months.

@CorpoWolf

3 ай бұрын

It wouldn't really matter because many companies have stated "no changes" and then a year or two later they make pricing changes. Just look at Reddis a BSD licensed database that started no change to the BSD would happen, then years later they changed it.

@NetherFX

3 ай бұрын

even if they did, there's no legal bind

corporate buyouts are always bad for consumers.

@ersatztutor

3 ай бұрын

And employees.

@StarContract

3 ай бұрын

I can easily give counter examples, like Epic buying some companies and immediately sweetening the deal

Having worked for several companies in my long career from mom-and-pops to Fortune 200, I’ve had the experience of going through a few mergers,and acquisitions. I can attest that once you hear the nothing changes and everyone has a seat mantra expect just the opposite.

@drwho6871

3 ай бұрын

Very true and correct always!

@billbowman8747

3 ай бұрын

Now that the shock has worn off for me, I am prepared to give Canva a fair shake. They have a great opportunity here and it's on them not to screw this up. If they do, this acquisition will have been a waste of their money. They have talked the talk, now they need to walk the walk.

If Canva slaps a subscription model on the Affinity apps, there will be literally no reason NOT to use Adobe. Sad.

@hipflipped

3 ай бұрын

Well, all of Canva's current products are subscription based. Why would Affinity be any different now that they own them?

@chrismcpherson7582

3 ай бұрын

​@@hipflipped why? 90% of the selling point of affinity has been a license you buy not a subscription. We hate subscriptions. They would be kicking their user base in the head and we'd all leave.

@drwho6871

3 ай бұрын

@@chrismcpherson7582 - That doesn't matter for a big company as it's been done many, many times before and more than likely will happen here as well after about a year or two.. Time will tell as it always does!

@lamsmiley1944

3 ай бұрын

Sure there would. My brother just attempted to cancel his Adobe subscription and they want a $500 cancellation fee. That’s the equivalent of about 5 years of Canva pro. It’s almost certain that Affinity will be bundled with Canva Pro, which would be significantly cheaper than Adobe suite and not charge ridiculous cancellation fees.

@chrismcpherson7582

3 ай бұрын

@@lamsmiley1944 sadge

Affinity owners got rich and will move on "to new challenges outside the company" in 3-6 month. 1/3 of the staff will be fired and v3 subscription model will be added within 12 months, while v2 will only receive a few updates before being tagged "obsolete".

@yuli3873

3 ай бұрын

Pretty much this...

@drwho6871

3 ай бұрын

Very well said @Nebarus... And that is exactly how this will play out too! Watch and see Affinity users.. Watch and see!

@synthdream

3 ай бұрын

Too true, what sellouts.

@Dave102693

3 ай бұрын

You just described how capitalism works

Canva, a web based SaaS tool. oh dear.

"Nothing changes today". I feel like i read this kind of statement before in various other news, and it now always sounds like deliberately rephasing 'things will change in the future'.

@harkinhails

3 ай бұрын

Adobe made similar statements when they bought Substance. A year or so later, they introduced subscription and removed all permanent licenses.

@drwho6871

3 ай бұрын

@@harkinhails - Of course they did!! It's all amount "THEM" making all that beautiful money is the end result here!! Not the interest of the pre-existing user base prior to the acquision.

@user-eu5ol7mx8y

24 күн бұрын

@@harkinhails To be fair, they sell perpetual licence for Substance Painter on Steam.

I own all the Affinity products and love them all. I'll echo the sentiment, "CANAVA, please don't screw this up".

@theanimaster

3 ай бұрын

wishful thinking

@drwho6871

3 ай бұрын

It's inevitable.. Don't worry they will in the end! When Affinity V3 comes around you will see the beautiful "Subscription Model" from that point onwards indefinitely!!

@primothegreat9022

3 ай бұрын

We'll stuck to use v2.4

This phenomenon is like a parasite leaching onto his host and tries to drain the userbase and then when they are used up, the parasite let's the host/product die.

@drwho6871

3 ай бұрын

The fate of the many unfortunately... Caligari was one such example here. Look them up and ready what Microsoft did to them and their user base. I was one of them and owned TrueSpace 7.6, TrueSpace 6, GameSpace, and many addons as well... They went into oblivion also!

One of the biggest red flags for me is "Nothing will change". Yeah, we saw how that went in the past over and over again. I'll give them the benefit of doubt, but it's just a small one.

@hipflipped

3 ай бұрын

"Nothing will Change" = run for the exit kids!

@Elwaves2925

3 ай бұрын

I pointed this out and they only mention future features in their statement. As in, new features will be added, nothing will change regarding that. There isn't a single mention of whether that applies to pricing or subs.

@udoderunformige1250

3 ай бұрын

@@Elwaves2925 Well, yes. There are no mentions of pricing changes or subscriptions... so far. We'll see if that changes a few years in the future.

@Elwaves2925

3 ай бұрын

@@udoderunformige1250 Exactly. So far...and as Canva are already into subs it doesn't look good. Fingers and toes crossed though.

@hipflipped

3 ай бұрын

@@Elwaves2925Canva's business model is subs. Canva now owns Affinity. So yeah, any idea that it won't be sub based in the future (probalby after a year or two) is naive.

Wouldn't it be nice if just one time a company like Serif told a big corporation their IP is not for sale at any price?

@drwho6871

3 ай бұрын

Hah!! In this kind of world we live in today? Seriously man? Good luck with that... 😅

Goodbye Affinity 👋

100% the reason I started using affinity was to avoid subscription. I was SO UPSET to see this news this morning. Subscription-only is coming, it’s only a matter of time.

Graphic designers need an open source design suite alternative. A suite of programs or just one program that feature photo editing, raster illustration, vector design and page layout. While I appreciate Gimp, Krita and Inkscape, I don't think they are the solution graphic designers need. Graphic design needs a Blender. Graphic designers need to fund it.

@LV4EVR

3 ай бұрын

"Graphic design needs a Blender" Amen to that. Blender gets (I believe) a huge cash infusion from the movie industry. Too bad Serif didn't get such a thing, or sell enough to not be willing to "sell out."

@deebonash4487

3 ай бұрын

Correct we need a blender for vector. Enough is enough

@vsz-z2428

3 ай бұрын

i switched recently from macos and affinity to fedora and inkscape + scribus, and I’m very surprised how capable it actually is. I recommend anyone try it out cuz community developed software feels sooo good

@doctormo

3 ай бұрын

Inkscape runs on a tiny tiny amount of money. Donations last year were $53k for the whole project. Compared to blender just their user fund raising campaign is $2.3 million and you can start to see why it's so hard to move inkscape faster.

@dwon7781

3 ай бұрын

@@doctormo That's fair, Inkscape needs more support. My comment wasn't intended to criticize Inkscape. The Inkscape team(Gimp, Krita) deserve all the thanks and financial compensation for their hard work and sacrifice. I do think an opensource creative suite project that combined photo editing, raster illustration, vector and layout, with a unified UI and industry standard functionality, would garner more support from a wider user base than these isolated projects. There are many reasons Blender reached its current state, but one key factor is it combines many different tools into one package(3D Modeling, sculpting, animation, motion graphics, etc). Being a Swiss army knife helps it attract several different types of users, in different fields. An opensource design suite could attract anyone from sign shops, photographers, illustrators, 3D artists, free lancers, hobbyists and on and on. Yes is would cost more, but I really think it would get more support faster as well. I understand this is easier said than done. I'll post my Affinity features that I would like to see in Inkscape under your video comment section. Thanks!

RIP Affinity :( It was a good run.

This could potentially divert designers and illustrators right back to Adobe.

@ScottFoust

3 ай бұрын

Only for those who can afford it. But that's not me.

@Shura859

3 ай бұрын

​@@ScottFoust just pirate Adobe. It's morally right. It's not like you are pirating some indie game so you feel bad about it.

@ScottFoust

3 ай бұрын

@@Shura859 I used to do that many years ago but I got tired of all the viruses.

Post acquisition speeches always contain the same platitudes: "We're excited for what lies ahead", "our views align", "we have more resources than ever" , and "we have no current plans to change". Followed by a Q&A saying nothing bad is going to happen.

@hipflipped

3 ай бұрын

The acquisition "script" is almost nearly always the same. You'll find the same boilerplate was used when artlist bought out (and subsequently move to sub based pricing) Hitfilm.

@drwho6871

3 ай бұрын

But in the end and over time we see often that it does indeed though.

Subscription is coming

@lamsmiley1944

3 ай бұрын

I wouldn’t be surprised if they continue to allow customers to buy Affinity, while also bundling it with Canva Pro. That’s how I’d do it.

@hipflipped

3 ай бұрын

@@lamsmiley1944yeah, Affinity will be their sole "non sub" product. Naive much?

From Serif's site on Affinity FAQ's --> Question: " Canva’s business model is subscription, are there any plans to change how Affinity is sold? " Answer: " There are no changes to our current pricing model planned at this time, with all our apps still available as a one-off purchase. Existing Affinity users will be able to continue to use your apps in perpetuity as they were originally purchased - with plenty of free updates to V2 still to look forward to! " Just in case some of you missed the KEY WORDS here... -----------> " There are no changes to our current pricing model planned {at this time} " ... This translates to when Affinity V3 comes out it will more than likely be a pricing model under "Subscription" which will put it in-line with that of Adobe's line of products and pricing scheme as well! So much for affordability and a perpetual license as a one-off purchase! I would bet you top money on this is what will exactly happen under Canva's ownership in the foreseeable near future of existing Affinity customers as well as new ones also!

Serif has fallen... Blackmagic and Image-Line are standing alone, resisting market forces.

@JVJF7

3 ай бұрын

And Godot. Totally free.

@AD-Dom

3 ай бұрын

Blender too!!

@AD-Dom

3 ай бұрын

And CorelDraw. But who wants Canadian crap… haha

@brodriguez11000

3 ай бұрын

Using hardware sales to pay for software. How Apple of them.

@brodriguez11000

3 ай бұрын

@@AD-Dom People who realize that's the only one left standing.

canva will kill affinity now

@yuli3873

3 ай бұрын

Serif itself killed Affinity. Time to look for alternatives.

@drwho6871

3 ай бұрын

@@yuli3873 - Yep!! Glad I have Corel PaintShop Pro Ultimate as a backup plan! At least it is still a perpetual single purchase license still. Not nowhere as powerful as the likes of Affinity or Adobe PhotoShop mind you.. But still a very good alternative though in my honest opinion. ;)

@tlilmiztli

3 ай бұрын

YEah, they bought Affinity for billion dollars to kill it. Right. Great thinking, Sherlock.

Any company who is big enough to buy out other companies has one of two goals in mind: 1. Eliminate a competitor 2. Make huge changes to the acquisition to fit their plans

just a small correction: Affinity Publisher competes with Adobe InDesign, not Adobe Publisher. I’m curious to see how this will turn out. What I hope is that Affinity (or Serif) will keep striving for better user interface and UX, as there currently are a lot of UI/UX papercuts that make the software needlessly hard to use compared to Adobe’s software. Maybe the extra funds will enable increasing the polish, but I’m fearing they’ll spread themselves even further out and focus on shiny new features and integrations that don’t improve the core experience. This type of product vision can be seen in the Affinity Designer 2 update for the iPad version, where the UI became more non-standard just to visually seem more “fresh”, rather than actually improving the UX and reducing ambiguous iconography, etc. But, all in all, I’m still using Affinity products over Adobe’s offerings because Adobe is too expensive for occasional professional usage

Been using v1 of all the products since 2020 and love them... guess I should go grab v2 while I still can.

@LV4EVR

3 ай бұрын

v2 is a huge improvement

@tiredlocke

3 ай бұрын

@@LV4EVR Thanks, I decided to bite the bullet. Now I need to come up with some projects to go play with the updated versions...

@LV4EVR

3 ай бұрын

@@tiredlocke Good for you! You'll like it. Today's "news" (the 4 part pledge) is very encouraging. Sounds like they're committed to perpetual licenses. cheers

Anddd another one sells out despite saying they wouldn't

@drwho6871

3 ай бұрын

AS the old saying goes in this world... Money talks and BS walks!! That has never ever changed since man has been on the earth I'm afraid.. 🙄

Just the other day I recommended affinity to a friend because of the expensive canva subscription... I don't trust the canva people, I will never trust people who sandbox their app and close it under a subscription.

It's a flatout betrayal. And it's stupid too. Adobe is better in every way. We dealt with it because it was a flat purchase.

this is about adobe's AI edge - with generative AI capabilities in photoshop affinity was not prepared for how it would change the landscape of creative work. canva has the foundations for gen AI and will charge monthly for it. tho we should hope and pray they decide to make those features optional and thus the sub optional

@ChucksDigitalPhotography

3 ай бұрын

That is why I was attracted to Affinity. I wanted to learn photo editing for myself and not have A.I do everything for me. As a senior the challenge of creating without A.I assistance is what I thoroughly enjoy!

Guess I will be sitting at Affinity V2. Just like Clipstudio I haven't upgraded after the sub move. Even though some features seem creative. And like Substance 😞. Forever stucked at the last perpetual.

@The3DSphinx

3 ай бұрын

@@_I-OvO-I_ Yea, I was once debating not to upgrade my perpetual and just pay full price for that version. When it was on sale of course. But then they don't do PayPal payment so that knocked that thought out.😐 But us consumers need to start pushing back on corporate greed. Cause honestly I don't see anything innovative after a few years a company settled in with subscription services except how to make people pay more. Like the whole mirror tool in adobe the last I saw if you wanted to do mirror drawing you had to get plugins and the way some users speak it still can't to this day blows my mind if that's true.

an amazing amount of corporate speak that actually says nothing about the future plans...

@hipflipped

3 ай бұрын

Oh, it says a lot by saying nothing.

@mortengu1385

3 ай бұрын

sad but true... @@hipflipped

"HONOR THE EXISTING CONTRACTS" and "NOTHING WILL CHANGE"? why do you plan on honoring exiting contracts if nothing is changing?

@IannisMaragakis

3 ай бұрын

The key question is "who" will be honoring this? Because since they sold it, they have no say anymore.

Being a single developer is like "Oh wow, I finally found a software that fits my needs and is affordable". A few months later "Software swallowed by a bigger fish... now you have to be tied to the new company so you can use the same features of the same software".

@ChucksDigitalPhotography

3 ай бұрын

I too just found a software I really like and what a surprise to hear Canva just purchased AP.

I like affinity products but I just wish they had the ability to create tiled textures. Similar to how Krita does it

@denisquarte7177

3 ай бұрын

have you tried the g'mick plugin ?

Affinity doesn't have GPUs and servers for AI, Canva DOES. I think this is the reason why.

Serif's owner should be ashamed, leaving his company into the hand of these people... That's a betrayal. He sold us Affinity as a creative environment that is safe from Adobe's predatory behaviors and mentality, and he sold it to a company that is exactly like them... I will consider my Affinity suite like a soon-to-be dead software from now on. I hope you like your ferrari Dude...

@drwho6871

3 ай бұрын

He will as he never cared about his customers period.. Only the money the software brought in is all. Which this goes to prove my very point here.. It's always about the money always in the end period!!🤨

3:00 It's Adobe InDesign not Publisher!

as previously stated by others, EVERYTHING is going to change. Hold for subscriptions.

I'm worried , because Canva is the owner and they use a Subscription model. Affinity no longer has a say in this matter.

Hope they dont turn this into a subscription product.

@LV4EVR

3 ай бұрын

99% chance they will, of course

@Arch-Propagandist-Sage

3 ай бұрын

@@LV4EVR or bundle with convas office suite like something.

@theanimaster

3 ай бұрын

@@LV4EVR more like 99.99999999999999999%

@a_d_a_m

3 ай бұрын

they will :( they always, always, do

I really don't want Designer to be messed with. I honestly don't care about any new features. It's the best vector tool I have ever had!

Here comes the BS AI and subscriptions. V3 will be out in no time and we won't be able to activate V1 or V2 software anymore despite being perpetual, which means nothing in the I T world. This is why everyone should just shift over to open source free software like Blender

@hipflipped

3 ай бұрын

Inkscape FTW!

@MrFrostCA

3 ай бұрын

Photopea for the win.

Please remain the same, at least similar. Affinity Photo is the only viable Photoshop alternative (I still prefer Photoshop, it's great, but hate Adobe and it's policies and subscription plan). And yes, i tried Gimp, again and again, it just tries to be different in EVERY way, which makes it very unintuitive. Not for me...

Think about how hard it was for me to retrain years of Adobe Suite muscle memory into Affinity. I will absolutely reinvest comparable effort in an alternative if they try to move me into a subscription.

@drwho6871

3 ай бұрын

Better start now while you have the advanced time available to you prior to the subscription being implemented into Affinity's core code.😉

So glad I bought the V2 suite at launch. Like everyone else, pretty sure Canva will eventually make it subscription. Sigh. I use Canva for KZread thumbnails so I don't over complicate them, but book covers were all done in Affinity Photo. Its amazing.

@kdeuler

3 ай бұрын

Yeah, we should be careful when we do future 2.x upgrades. There might be a timed expiration added to the code.

@3dchick

3 ай бұрын

@@kdeuler good idea

This is going to get a subscription service slapped on it. Canva has red flags all over it.

I hope I’m wrong, but this is probably not going to maintain Affinity’s current business model.

Changed to affinity to avoid subscriptions. No doubt Canva will move to subscriptions and I'll have to look for a new set of tools if I ever need new features.

@patrickdavis9209

3 ай бұрын

​@@uusfiyeyhI've tried all 3 of those in the past. Never had anywhere near the ease of use and or clean UI/UX of Adobe / Affinity, but maybe things have improved over time on the open source side. I guess when Affinity V2 nears end-of-life I'll have to consider my options again and hopefully open source will over feature parity then if they don't yet now.

@drwho6871

3 ай бұрын

You can 100% count on that happening man for sure!!😒

It’ll be subscription-only in v3. It’s all Canva does.

@drwho6871

3 ай бұрын

Bingo!!!!

I really hope this goes well, Affinity is the best adobe alternative, specially for Mac devices

I love Affinity. Not sure how I ended up buying Affinity tools. Wouldn't be surprised if it was via a humble bundle GFS promoted.

@patrickdavis9209

3 ай бұрын

Black friday deal for me, not sure who advertised it but may have been gfs

Very sad news for professionals who refuse to RENT software. Hopefully someone else will step up and fill the coming gap. Inkscape is amazing, but lacks absolute-must-have functionality and is wonky. (Autotrace is fantastic though.)

nope web based not using

can't we replicate the Blender model on Inkscape, Gimp, Krita, Scribus? I'm tired of wasting resources on these companies

@josephbrandenburg4373

3 ай бұрын

Blender is awesome, but it was not very awesome for years and years. It became awesome because people believed in it when it wasn't any good compared to Maya and the rest. And because they contributed!

"You die the hero or live long enough to become the villiam." I hope Affinty stays reasonable, but I have my doubts in the age of subscriptions.

It hardly ever happens that an acquisition doesn't run rough shot over the users of the acquired software. It may not happen immediately but the chances of things not eventually going sideways, are slim to say the least.

Yeah, subscriptions are coming, maybe not now but sometime in the future. I'll start looking for a viable alternative just to be prepared.

Canva can't really screw up a dead product. Affinity needed this as development has almost come to a stop. Affinity was falling further and further behind. I love Affinity, but they had simply stopped progressing. Hopefully they can return to releasing new ground breaking features which we haven't seen in years and fixing the enormous years backlog of bugs.

Man.... What an incredible shame. I've been using their stuff since 2020 and I've really grown attached. Part of me wants to be optimistic and hope that stuff won't go downhill from here. But, I think everybody is correct that it is inevitable.

Narrator: Canva went ahead and screwed it all up.

Sounds like Affinity or Serif has plateaued and they're selling before they get in trouble. This impression comes from some discussions about AI in their products, that they didn't have any plans or intentions of integrating. There are other features discussed where it sounded like the development was stagnant in general. Canva seems to be the cemetery for Affinity.

@denisquarte7177

3 ай бұрын

Pretty much this. Aside from costs of training(and talent to implement it in your software) it needs data to be trained on. You can pull a stable diffusion, but then either have hundreds of millions to spare for lawsuits and damages or at least have your company crumble before the law suits get resolved (looking at you stabilityAI). Biggest problem of using affinity for me was being unable export .idml and even importing was just a recent feature. Missing AI features were replaceable by using open source models (until now).

So big venture capital funded saas company buys product sale funded small software company. This will not end well. Designer is currently at 2.4.1 so there will probably be a 2.5 version and after that there is version 3 with the subscription.

I definitely recommend getting these products while the one-time purchase license is available, if you have the money. I use both Designer and Photo for a multitude of projects. Bought it in 2021 with my college money. Haven't really needed to upgrade since my updates ran out, but I haven't needed any new features as of yet. The reason I say it's worth buying now, especially if there's a sale going, is because I had gotten Zbrush Core for 3D Sculpting before they were bought out by Maxon, with the intention of upgrading to full Zbrush, and then Maxon made Zbrush, and ALL of their products subscription-only. So I'm stuck with a watered down version of the industry-standard 3D sculpting software. Whenever amazing software gets bought out by another company, there's always a risk that their software will be changed for the worse by said company. So better to get it while it's still good.

I just discovered AP as a hobbyist photographer and am really enjoying learning this powerful software. I have used Canva for years, and I hope this will be a good fit. I love the business model for AP. (Not a Subscriber based model) If subscriptions start I am bailing!!

If they make Affinity accessible with Linux, I'll buy it even if it turns out to be subscription plan, with a reasonable price. But still I hope they keep the perpetual plan, pray for it.

It sounds like Canva is integrating Affinity into Canva…which is subscription based. Truly Sad.

I take "No plans to change our pricing model at this time," to mean "Ripoff subscription pricing model is in the works." Hope I'm wrong though.

By "great alignment" they mean "they offered tons of money."

I will not upgrade to any subscription. If so, I might as well use Adobe again.

Yea, this never ends well. I was going to buy version 2 but will hold off now, until I see where this goes. Trust no one.

So where do we go next when this becomes subbed? Affordable doesn't mean fixed price.

@channelofstuff6662

3 ай бұрын

depends on what you do.

@vsz-z2428

3 ай бұрын

inkscape + scribus is not bad specifically on linux(fedora for example). now there is also friction for motion graphics and blender for video editing and 3D. but for people who are on macos idk, inkscape and scribus do have a mac build, but the mac versions are not very optimized and def much buggier i find

@mobarakjama5570

3 ай бұрын

@@vsz-z2428 Inkscape is Amazing, used it for a couple of years, before I bought Affinity Designer.

So they gonna integrate their ai office workflow tools in plug ins to th suite

Buy once isn't paying the bills anymore. All products not in Open-source are to become subscription services.

@brodriguez11000

3 ай бұрын

Pffft. Even open-source quietly asks for money. Get ignored because there's nothing making people pay for the product or the time involved. Out of the goodness of one's heart only works in utopias.

@drwho6871

3 ай бұрын

It does seem like everone that has some sort of application does want to make it out like a regular utility bill like electric, gas or water or internet huh? 🤑

Hopefully they add PS compatibility mode - and fix the way alphas are handled. I switched to Photopea just for the PS hotkey support. Art Studio also mirrors PS where features align.

Welp I'm scared. but to see some Canva features in Affinity might be interested

@deebonash4487

3 ай бұрын

Like?

@lennyjoseph7382

3 ай бұрын

@@deebonash4487 They have a huge library of assets for one. If they could integrate Canva into Affinity, that would be huge for assets, templates etc.

This have animation time line ?

I would love to see Affinity suit as a WebApp usable on Linux or ChromeBook in the Browser.

The discontinued serif/affinity video editor was one of the best I've ever used bar none. Unfortunately their developer was pinched by MS. They should bring it back because it would still have more features than a lot of current applications.

And goodbye to them as well

They're going to screw it up. My guess is all affinity products will change over to a subscription model in less than a year.

@hipflipped

3 ай бұрын

By allowing the takeover, they've already screwed it up.

Yep hope Canva doesn't screw this up. . . I'm really enjoying the workflow v2 Developer / Photo has, just hope our perpetual license will still work for at least a few years

I've been using Affinity since the very first update of V1, and love the suite. Canva, don't screw this up and turn it into subscription only.

Deliver much more much faster = subscription model incoming

@hipflipped

3 ай бұрын

You called it! Same thing happened to Hitfilm and now it's damn near abandon-ware.

Photo can be replaced with Gimp or Krita. Designer with Inkskape, but is there alternative for Publisher?

@raphaelgonzaga1133

3 ай бұрын

scribus

@LV4EVR

3 ай бұрын

Gimp, Krita, Inkscape and Scribus are all great efforts, and improving. But they're not something most professionals, including this one, will use as their daily drivers.

@hipflipped

3 ай бұрын

@@LV4EVRWith upcoming CMYK support for Inkscape, there's zero reason it couldn't be used by professionals.

@drwho6871

3 ай бұрын

Until Xara Designer went Subscription as well they was a very good alternative to Publisher. But cannot recommend them as they too are now subscription based as well.. 😒

@LV4EVR

3 ай бұрын

@@hipflippedI have been a professional designer for a long time. And I disagree. A big part of why Adobe became the 800# Gorilla is because their software ... worked. It made sense. There was a UI consistency between their programs and other similar software as well. Affinity has struggled with this; not sure they actually "get it" yet. And Inkscape has tons of UI quirks that make using it feel clunky, and that's being kind. Don't get me wrong: I love Inkscape, especially considering it's free and has a very small team behind it. I want very much to see it improve and actually challenge Affinity and/or certain Gorillas. But that won't happen until the workflow, driven primarily by the UI, is in line with the de facto standards. Trying to do things differently just to be different is fine, but it does prevent more widespread adoption by such professionals.

Did they copypasta anouncements from back then when adobe accuired substance? Only thing missing is how greatly the development will benefit. Which is probably the closest thing to honesty we will get.

Software not available in all plataforma like in Linux, can think if it as an alternative. FOSS leading usability

I've only installed free and open source software like krita, gimp, inkscape etc. Don't even thing for a single minutes that I need any paid sw on my desktop. Actually gimp is easier to use than photoshop or affinity photo. It may not as much tools in it but it can be extended via plugins and you can emulate similar things what photoshop has. Or with krita and others you will find the missing stuffs.

What's next, Loot-Box-Model?

Noooooooooooooooooo, Affinity is my favorite editing software

This is... Concerning. I don't know, Canva does have an amazing toolset, and supporting Affinity could be great for them in the desktop space. However, not sure how I feel they are going with this

Tale as old time. The larger corporation absorbs the smaller company, promises only good things, then does a 180 heel turn, betrays the user base, and end up killing the software.

Lets hope Canva will add Linux support too.

These past years of owning Affinity Photo were pretty much just the beta of the subscription based version of AP2 that Canva will eventually offer. I’m sure owners will be given a “sweet deal” on the first year of subscription pricing. At which time I’ll look at going to Adobe. Most videos I watch actually refer to Adobe products 10 times more than AP2 so it would just make it easier to follow along. And either way I’ll have to pay a subscription. So…🤷🏼‍♂️

Canva are Australian, have 2000 employees, their CEO is Melanie Perkins a tech entrepreneur. It would be interesting to reach out Perkins to see what her plans are for Afinity before 'jumping the gun'.

I almost upgraded to the entire v2 Suite. Guess I dodged a bullet there.

Canva is subscription based, so now Affinity will be the same. The last hope for premium design software may very well be lost. That's why I only use Open Source Design software like Inkscape, Gimp, Scribus, Blender, Libre Office and more. I donate every once in a while. I am missing nothing from my own open source design software stack.

I didn't know about this products. And looks it may be too late to jump in. Welp, I use Photopea anyways.

NOW THE QUESTION IS: WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE?

Mike, time, to do a video on alternative open source options.