Yes, it's true. FroPack2 is now out and you can check it out right here froknowsphoto.com/fropack2/ Don't forget you can download sample RAW files at the link in the description.

@GreenRC24

4 жыл бұрын

I'm really liking the FroPack2, Gritty is my favorite so far.

@ikusanjay

4 жыл бұрын

How does it perform against tamron 24-70 2.8 g2? As i have purchased that lens... Please reply

@GreenRC24

4 жыл бұрын

@@ikusanjay The Canon version should be better than the Tameron. If your photography is just a hobby then don't worry about it, the Tameron will be fine.

Despite nit-pickers and people who need a chill pill, your reviews are excellent. They give us the info we need to make an informed decision on what system or component to invest in whether amateurs, like myself, or pros. Mirrorless is a game changer and eventually I hope they moderate in price like flat screen TV's did since the time they first came out. Thanks for providing a valuable service to the photography enthusiasts, whether amateur or pro.

Control ring is revolutionary. I use it for changing ISO value as my values of shutter speed and aperture are usually fixed. Great for photo and video works

Loved this. The sample images are great. Can’t wait to see you do a review of the 15-35

that angle and the way the singer raise his hand is really a challenge for any EyeAF system, not only canon R

Jared, pay no mind of the zoom lock. It’s a nice touch. With age, some lenses do tend to creep.

Thank you for reviewing the Lens! you are the first from the big you tube channels to review it in my opinion ! Thank you!

You can configure the control ring to only make inputs while holding the shutter button to its first detent. Might be worth a try!

@pjkreis

4 жыл бұрын

JonisKanonis Exactly...there is no “accidentally” changes! I personally love the ring! Its so easy to use...!

@CheeseOnEverything

4 жыл бұрын

The 3 control dials to complete the exposure triangle is game changing.

@DoubleE_Aviation

4 жыл бұрын

@@CheeseOnEverything agree. iso aperture shutter all without moving my hands...

@nessviggo

4 жыл бұрын

What I came here to write 👍🏽 I use it for EC and it’s a game changer .

@ThomasHalways

4 жыл бұрын

I have also disabled this ring. It is useless to me as well, but if you like it, you have it. Controls on the camera have the advantage that they are on the same, trusty place for all lenses.

Great vid, Jared. Would love to see a comparison between this and the 28-70 f2. Also, did the EOS R you were using have the updated eye af?

My 24-70 EF didn’t creep when it was new either but now it does, so I predict the lock button will prove to be useful in the future.

It's like a storm of eos R videos have hit YT in the past week..and right before the holidays. Canon knows how to market.

@Savage1776_

4 жыл бұрын

I'll pick one up used about 3 months ago for $1,500. Mint condition. Actually really nice little camera.. the new firmware update made it even better

@themjian

4 жыл бұрын

Not marketing... it's the reality popping up after using it in the real world.

@CheeseOnEverything

4 жыл бұрын

It's more like, youtubers know how to do business. Cuz without an eos R, they wont be able to receive those RF lenses from canon.

Hi Jared great series of videos. The reason they've added a lock (1:26), I hope, is to stop zoom creep when it's pointing down on a tripod eg overhead product or macro shots. My EF 24-70 is smooth and tight but the zoom creeps ever so slowly when pointing down - so much so I've had to use gaffer tape or elastic bands :/

I think that the lock mechanism is for when the lens is stowed in a bag with the hood on. Sometimes the hood can catch on something, and start pulling the lens. I have had a few lenses do this so I try to engage the lock (if there is one) before putting the lenses away.

Great job and thanks for the sample images...on the fence upgrading from the the version II!

Hey Jared great review! For the photo at 14:05 would there be any benefit to Eye AF though? For the focal length, Aperture and subject distance, wouldn't Face Detect AF be enough to get his whole face in focus?

Looks about as good as the other 24-70 2.8 from Sony and Nikon, also at 2200+ usd. I think the new Sigma will be the disruptive lens, because it could offer similar quality at literally half the price. I also love the photo at 14:00.

Love the video Jared! Keep it up! Can’t wait to see the review of the chubby boy soon! 😜

Nice Finally ❤️😍 but regarding the ring, there is an option that the ring only does something if you push the shutter a little bit, so that shouldn’t be that big of a problem. I have this lens and it already earned it expenses back, period. The close focusing made me make a lot of extra cool macro shots

@bioliv1

4 жыл бұрын

The control ring is placed correctly on the 70-200 mm.

Great review! very useful. Please do o comparison between RF trinity and EF trinity. I'm excited about the RF 24-70, but still can't bear the price, compared to ef 24-70 f2.8. Will it be a bad decision to get ef version for EOS R and save some money to get another ef prime?

Debating on picking up either the RF or EF II version for my EOS R. $1600 vs $2300 with the purpose of shooting events like Quinceaneras with on camera flash. Do you believe the image quality difference warrants the extra $700 or would the EF II be just fine?

Hello, waiting for the R5/6, I’m going to buy my first RF lens, which would recommend? I do a little video most photography. 15-35 or 24-70, plan to buy the trinity eventually. Thx

Omg! I just shot my first wedding video this weekend predominantly on a Canon 5D Mk II and a 50mm 1.4 as that's what I could afford. I just saw a review for a Canon R5 and it brought me here. My mind is blown. 🤯

let me just jump in here real quick and give this review a thumbs up

Hi Jared, did you use updated camera to new 1,4 software version?

Well done Jared, very fair and honest. Also love your shout-out to Allen's Camera,also my camera store of choice since it opened. Cheers

@theonewhoroars

4 жыл бұрын

first reply in 8 months

Great Review Bro!!

Canon making a good lens choise for their system! Maybe it will work!

Thank you, finally someone mentions this back cap issue with RF. It is horrible. Both Canon EF and Nikon F caps are symmetric and can be put on blindly in 3 possible orientations, worse case turn 120 degree. Here this thing jams if put on wrongly, requires up to 360 degree turn. Stunning. When I wrote about that in dPreview forum, Canon fanboys who probably never change a lens in dim light or on the move, replied with a hurricane of objections "what, a lens cap, you are so wrong to write that." It is sad that Canon, a pro oriented camera maker commits this unforced error with this cap design.

Hey Jared, been catching up on your vids since my 1 week old purchase of my R6. I am coming from an older 5D mkii and I consider myself more pro-am. in my gear bag I carry an ef-l 16-35 f2.8 and an ef-l 24-105 f4. I was going to sell my 5d mkii and maybe my 24-105 to purchase either this 24-70 f2.8 or the 28-70 f2.0. If you had to choose one of the 2 mentioned as your daily which would be your choice?

I enable the control ring to select the AF method, and it's been working great!

Nice job, well done brother!

All I want to know, can this lens deliver good result in the upcoming 60 or 70 megapixel(roumred) pro EOS R camera??

Hey Jared. Question. I have this lens and I noticed it has some significant distortion (stretching) of the image near the sides. This usually only becomes noticeable when I turn the camera sideways for vertical shots (resulting in elongated heads for example). Is there any fix for this besides shooting larger than necessary and cropping? I tried fiddling around with the correction in PS but it doesn't seem to make any perceptible difference.

so which one will you use? for blogging and food photography? 15-35 vs 24-70?

superb shots !!!!

I just order the RF 24-70mm lens. Thanks for the review friend. On top of that! is it comes with the hood for lens? and what is the Polarizer size of it?

@Thomasjcolbert82

3 жыл бұрын

It’s 82MM filter thread size and has a lens hood.

Hi sir I have some of the old ef back caps, can I use them to put on the new rf lenses ?

I have the tamron 24-70mm G2 F2.8 Lens....but when I get the new canon eos R5 I want upgrade to this lens....would u do a comparison video between both of these lens.

@faroukzanou7242

4 жыл бұрын

yea am also interested in a review of these two lens

Hey Jared, for the rf jack of all trades, would you pickup a 28-70 f2 or 24-70 f2.8 for a photographer mainly shooting weddings, events and portraits?

@omranmohammed4811

Жыл бұрын

Bro sydney 28-70 is a photographer lens . 24-70 is still perfect for both which im getting offcours

Fro really should make a guide for capturing motion in jpeg.

Can I use the command ring to do the functions as the control wheel on a 5DIV?

How does it perform against tamron 24-70 2.8 g2? As i have purchased that lens...

You can set the control ring to only function at half press

Can you please do a comprehensive comparison review of the RF 85 1.2 DS vs the non DS . I’m waiting on your opinion before my purchase. Thank you

hello jared may i ask u, because i have eos r, when i do a single shoot my camera shutter voice looks like do some continuous shoot, but is not. for example when shooting the voice is " click ",, but my eos r when shooting the voice is " click click". the voice looks like do some continuous shoot, but is only do a single shoot. the camera actually working well, just i want to know why just my camera like that.. please help me..

Hows is it shooting video wide angle ? or shooting Stars?

How is the dust sealing on this particular RF lens? I've heard photographers having a nightmare with Tamron and Sigma's current 24-70 due to dust getting sucked in to the lens due to poor sealing on the extending lens barrel. To your knowledge, does the RF F2.8 24-70mm L have a filter between the extending barrel and the main barrel to prevent dust from getting sucked into the lens? Or in your extensive use of the lens, have you detected any issues with dust [long term use]?

My EOS r eye detecting foucus amazing.It works for me pretty well in low light conditions.no complain

@michaelhampton2688

4 жыл бұрын

No problem here either. For a fast moving person I adjust the AF tracking sensitivity with no issues at all.

Nice review! :) I bought the same model one week ago and I'm happy with it (definitive an all-rounder product)! :)

What are your thoughts about the romoured oncoming tamron 75-180 ish, sony e-mount?

@bioliv1

4 жыл бұрын

It will probably give a lot of vignetting using filters at 180 mm f2.8, as it's too narrow. It should have been 68,2 mm minimum, without filters. So wait for Sigma 70-200 sports lens. Guess it will be announced sometimes in the first quarter of 2020.

FroPack2 is amazing!!! As are all the vids from Jared... Thanks again for the content!

Agreed. The lens caps on RF lenses are such a pain to align. It was just fine on the EF...

Having no luck "on the internet," thought it best to turn to the expert: Jared, how well does the IS system of the RF 24-105 L work with the IS system of the Canon R6 or R5? Which IS system takes precedence? If neither, how are they coordinated? How are conflict issues resolved?

I'll have mine next week. Let's see how it is!

You have any video comparing 27 to 70mm va 24 to 105mm?

But how can you shot in full manual without changing the ISO on demand? The EOS R works great with auto iso, but learning how to handle the control ring might be important.

Hey Jared! Have you been using the latest firmware for the EOS R? The eye AF has been massively improved.

@froknowsphoto

4 жыл бұрын

yes of course.

can the Fropacks be used in Camera Raw? or is it just Lightroom only?

cool review. looking forward to your 15-35mm Rf lens review. looking to get the 15-35mm for my Canon RP!

@fredbjoern

4 жыл бұрын

FROM THE SIDE LINES! How’s your experience with the RP been? I’m thinking about upgrading from the M50, but worried about how good the 24-105mm lens is and if it’s worth the 2K for body + lens. What lens are you currently using with the RP?

@MrAyybee2cold

4 жыл бұрын

Freddie B compared to the M50 the RP is a no brainer. If I wasn’t getting a 6DII I’d get a RP.

@fredbjoern

4 жыл бұрын

Austin Bables Very much inclined to agree, what are your own arguments for it? :) Just interested in hearing as many perspectives as possible!

@MrAyybee2cold

4 жыл бұрын

Freddie B right now glass and bodies. Plus the fact the R is so high right now and the RP just seems to be the best of the R. Other reasons for me picking the 6DII is the optional vertical grip and the batteries are roughly the same as a 5D.

@fromthesidelines1453

4 жыл бұрын

​@@fredbjoern I love it so far! Coming from a Nikon P1000 and b4 that, Sony Cybershot dsc-qx30. its just an awesome camera to use an play with. this is my first real mirrorless I have ever owned. I currently have the RF 24-240mm f4-6.3 lens, sigma 150-600mm f5-6.3 DG contemporary using the included adapter that came with the RP, recently got RF 35mm f1.8. They take awesome pictures. [sucks 4 me that the prices drop for the Canon RP a few weeks back even cheaper than when I first got it]. As for the RF 24-105mm i haven't gotten that lens, but avoid the 24-240mm rf lens cuz it seems to have trouble focusing between 35-70mm! I'm working on a few videos of each lens with the Rp body. Subscribe to my channel to see the quality of each as do a review of my findings taking pictures and videos with each of the lenses! So take the leap an get the RP. The flip touch screen is a joy to have as well as the fully touch function it has to quickly flip through settings an the menu layout. Mr FRO also has a settings guideline video to best set the camera up, which you can further dial in settings of your own to suit your shooting style! just two more lens i wanna add are the Rf 15-35mm and the RF 70-200mm. Only thing holding me back is the price. Before this year is out i will have one of those to add to my kit! Hope this long reply helps you out!

Lol the wind test tells me that he is a professional

The EF24-70mm f/2.8L first series was a massive beast and I wasn’t using it all that much. I considered the later EF24-70 f/4L. When I got the R5, I realized there is no RF24-70mm f/4, so I got the RF24-105mm f/4 which is the closest thing. I was worried the RF24-70mm f/2.8 might weigh the same as the massive beast.

The Canon 24-70 2.8 with IS should have been on the last Canon 24-70 2.8 II. Nikon had their 24-70 2.8 with VR for long time. And now the have it for the mirroless only. Since I use two cards for weddings on my Canon 5dkmk3 (yes I had few times when one card went bad) so the the Canon mirrorless with one card DOES NOT work for "ME", After playing with the Sony 7aiii and the camera having built-in IS, I sold all my canon cameras and few old lenses. I got two Sony 7aiii and the Sony 24-70 2.8, I also kept my Canon 85 1.4 IS which with the MC-11 works great with the Sony. I feel Canon needs to move faster and their marketing dept listen more to people comments as many are switching after even decades with them. i was over 20 years with Canon and my clients are doing their events and not waiting on companies to do their special days. Hi Jared! Bid fan here of your videos. Hope to see you when I go to Philly next time!

Here's to hoping the wish at 2:50 comes true and Canon releases the improved EOS R V2 with IBIS, dual card slot, and in-body video recording RAW 12-bit 4K @ 60fps! CMON CANON DO IT!

Does Canon r5 eye detector work great in low light in that situation ?

Maybe the lock prevents creep when using large, heavy filters or ring lights?

@CharlieVN

4 жыл бұрын

Matt Stoller despite how stiff it is now, it loosens over time.

@AndyKunkel

4 жыл бұрын

@@CharlieVN yeah, knowing Jared, I'm surprised he didn't cover that possibility in this video.

Fro knows.... how to get a Canon guys juices flowing!

Jammin Jessie is best DJ on 104.5. Sunday nights at 9 are my favorite. I like these review videos.

That lock _does_ make a difference. The EF II version had it too. I walk around all day with it hanging low at my hip and it'll creep out. Whether it's from gravity or the barrel rotating, I can't be sure just yet. The old one would fall out just from gravity. I use the RF on an R5.

Can you make a video on must have lens for the canon 90d please 🙏

Great photos

Would you say it's currently the best 24-70 out there?

Should I have this lens? or should I aim for 85mm lens? I have 35mm 1.8 stm

Can you pull it like that without twisting it and not messing up the lens?

@froknowsphoto

4 жыл бұрын

Yes but it wouldn't be practical during a shoot.

Will you review the 24-70 FE from sigma when it will be available?

@froknowsphoto

4 жыл бұрын

Of course.

Wait, what do you mean "the EOS R and the EOS RP do not have image stabilized censors". I thought that they do have in body image stabilization because on my EOS RP I can turn on and off IS in the settings. Is this switch on the RF 24-70 just a faster and easier way to turn that feature on and off without having to go into settings?

You know, there is a lock button that prevents you from making changes with the control ring...

I have this lens and have been using it on the ‘R’ for a couple of weeks now and I completely agree, it’s amazing! It really makes the R feel like a ‘real’ camera and I would argue it is one of the best pieces of Canon glass ever made! ❤️

You just need to have a TV show, and call it good👌🏾

Jared, if we want to make a proper review of this lens, we should directly compare it with the legendary Canon 24-70 f/2.8L II USM lens - preferably on a DSLR (not a mirrorless with adaptor). Because if the "old" L glass on a DSLR gives better image quality results, that would be a shock for the "mirrorless dream"! Do we dare make such a comparison ?! Thanks for the wonderful reviews, by the way, keep working with passion!

I remember a decade ago when Jared was doing reviews in Allen's shop 🤗

Ok I need help! @ the time the tamron 24/70 2.8 was said to beat out the ef Mount 27/70 2.8 due to its built in is! So what’s a better choice for the r6

Thanks for this video.

Can some one do comparison between RF 24-70mm va RF 28-70mm at low light shooting and overall ????

The processing on these is fantastic! The FroPack really does a great job! However, I do notice a lot of shadow noise (white specs) on these, and also noticed the same on the A7RIV samples as well on your real world review. I've found this "white spec" noise to be more bothersome than even chroma noise. It's caused by hot pixels in the shadow area being recovered, then chroma noise reduction turning them white.

Would be cool to see a comparison between the 24-70s from Canon, Nikon, Panasonic and Sony to actually see who has the best lenses

@actionphotopassion5082

4 жыл бұрын

Would be interesting indeed but very few chances that happens. Haven't you noticed that there is already never any direct comparisons of the new ML lenses vs their more "ancient" DSLR versions...? So I guess it will be the same for ML lenses no direct comparison from a brand to another.

Argh this just makes me want it more and more! Just got my R body and loving it. Just a little too small grip and buttons are slightly off for my hand. Coming from eos 6d, which was perfect for my hand! This lens is now 2200€ in one big shop and 250€ cash back from Canon because I bought camera body... So only 1950€

@BastiaanvandeWerk

4 жыл бұрын

Tiina Söderholm Same here! Wondering, do I keep my Sigma 24-105 art) or upgrade to this beauty....

@tiinasoderholm

4 жыл бұрын

@@BastiaanvandeWerk I got it actually in november to my trip in Malta. Now I have debt but I love it. It has some minor distortion but lightroom got last updat new lens profile to fix most of it and those black corners also. But again these wide to zoom always have compromises and in this lens they are minimal!

Does anyone know a video stabiliser (gimbal) that works with EOSR+ RF 24-70 ? I am struggling to find that...

14:09 awesome shot!!!

First from Switzerland 🇨🇭💪💪💪

For the record, The EF 24-70 II USM cost 2700€ when it was new. I don't know how it was abroad

The control ring is correct on the 70-200 mm. In the future I think they will move it back on the other lenses as well. For me I plan to buy a 20 mm and a 50 mm primes art lenses from Sigma, to avoid the control ring, and the 70-200 mm from Canon, when they get a good camera with joystick. According to Attilio Ruffo you only need these 3 lenses as a landscape shooter.

Long time fan, rare commenter. Always enjoy your take on things. I agree that the rear cap on these RF lenses is problematic, but I was surprised to hear that you're putting the cap back on when you switch lenses at a concert. Is this common? I never put my caps back on any lenses I'm using on a shoot. They just go in and out of my side bag and I make sure before each shoot that I don't have any random shrapnel in there. Anyway, just curious. Apart from that, keep it up and thanks for all the useful, candid and truly entertaining content over the years.

The ef caps actually fit on the rf lenses without any issue.

Have you compared the 28-70 F2 to the 24-70 F2.8? Which would you prefer if you can only afford to get one.

I wish it wasnt so expensive . Will have to opt for used EF version with adapter. I just got the r6 Mark ii. Still have to set it up following your tutorial

I have the EF version. Worth the upgrade?

2,300 isn't too crazy, but the initial kit out is going to be a bank buster if you want to go all-in native glass!

hey jared, first of all, some love from italy :))) just one question, what do you thinnk is the best astro lens for sony right now? thanks in advance, keep up the good work

@morbly

4 жыл бұрын

Ask an astrophotographer. Check out lonely speck. On here Photorec has some astro reviews, and Alyn Wallace reviewed sony's 24 1.4 (I haven't watched, I don't shoot sony)

@crismeman3386

4 жыл бұрын

Sony bodies suck in astrophotography why bother?..

@shamilpower92

4 жыл бұрын

@@crismeman3386 do they? My A7III is awesome in low light

@crismeman3386

4 жыл бұрын

@@shamilpower92 Shooting in lowlight is entirely different than astrophotography. Have you seen any Sony promotional videos regarding astrophotography or any claimed that they are good in photographing night sky?.. Sony bodies "weakness" is astrophotography. Do some research search.

@joshz6975

4 жыл бұрын

Astro lens for what? Milky way, constellation, tiny galaxies?

Hey, i bought the 24-70 and yesterday i got a shoot in nevel/low light. And my eos R can't find the faces. He even not focus on anything. Do you also have problems in low light?

Btw, the RF mount is not “of course much larger” than EF, still.. it’s the exact same 54mm internal diameter. 👍🏽

@ThomasHalways

4 жыл бұрын

Indeed, see canon's white paper, page 8 for explanations and diagrams. Nikon's Z is merely 1mm larger, in a sense they simply matched the diameter of the EF...