Don't judge the R8 & 28mm AF on the main a-roll shot here. It's jumping around because someone was in a rush and forgot to change the subject detect from "off" to "auto" or "people". Rest assured, if I find out who did this, I will punish them both swiftly and severely. Usually this combo is lock-on 👌

Great video and set up Dan, I'm a huge fan of that Sigma 28mm too!

@DanYosua

7 ай бұрын

Thanks, just watched your latest vid, people should head there next!

My Trinity for nature and landscape are: RF 14-35/4 L, RF 24-105/4 L, and RF 100-400mm - sometimes complemented with the RF 35/1.8 Macro, or the 85/1.8 Macro, if I want to get close for shooting plants, mushrooms and flowers for example.

@DanYosua

7 ай бұрын

That sounds like an excellent trio! I'm excited to try out the 14-35mm someday.

@markusbolliger1527

7 ай бұрын

@@DanYosua For landscape I also could imagine only two lenses: The RF 14-35/4 L in combination with the RF 70-200/4 L. Yes, you will have to accept the gap between 35 and 70mm, but this is not dramatic as you want to shoot wide or long in most situations. But I do not own the 70-200 yet, because only recently I bought the even more versatile, but slower 100-400.

@DanYosua

7 ай бұрын

Agreed, on many days I wouldn't mind that gap either. Usually when I want the fast option in those scenarios, it's for candid portraits of those with me. Or to play around with out of focus foreground elements. And the 50mm is small enough to find a way in the bag if nothing else for that.

@jessejayphotography

7 ай бұрын

Exact same setup for me. I really try to avoid the weight in the kit because out in the field I'd rather enjoy being out than lug around nearly 4kg of f2.8+ lenses and rarely shoot them at f/2.8. Canon really needs to developer a L-series 24-200 or a 28-200 like Nikon has. I've seen a ton of photos from the Nikon 24-200 that win awards and get printed and sold.

Randomly stumbled upon this video--I don't even shoot canon--but thoroughly enjoyed it! I think you should incorporate the thumbnail idea of the trinity into the title somehow, though, as I really appreciated that concept.

@DanYosua

7 ай бұрын

Really appreciate the comment, this is helpful! Haha I was just recording a podcast episode last night and said the same thing about the title. I'm used to targeting search, not browse or suggested traffic. And as is, this title was sort of a hedge in case the thumbnail didn't work instead of going all in on the concept. I'm a bit hesitant to change it when something is working, but have my eye on it for this week!

Great content. If i was to invest more in gear, i would chose R6+R7 coupled with the 15-35 + 70-200 both in f/2.8 + a couple of bateries. But now i only have the Rp+nifty 50.

@DanYosua

7 ай бұрын

Thanks! The great thing about the RP & 50mm is that you can fit it in a coat pocket, you can take it everywhere and shoot often as you scale up.

great videso and Nice gear list!

@DanYosua

6 ай бұрын

Glad you liked it!

almost same set up here except only rocking thr R8 since I just upgraded tp it 2 weeks ago from an rp thanks for vid and info!

@DanYosua

7 ай бұрын

Congrats, that's a nice jump! And an easy one as far as getting used to the form factor 😂

Truly as someone who had the original EF Trinity I never saw it as something that was holy. Now I only have a 24-70mm in my kit and the rest are primes.

@DanYosua

7 ай бұрын

Do you use the 24-70 for most shooting? I'm still curious to rent and take that on a trip.

Samyang 85mm is nowhere to be found in my country unfortunately. Seems like a really solid lens pick.

@DanYosua

6 ай бұрын

Not available new in the US either anymore 😔 Maybe that changes this year.

Great video! I’m looking to get the Tamron 24-70mm f2.8 for my kit next!

@DanYosua

7 ай бұрын

Ooo nice, I have yet to try any of Tamron's

I have struggled to come up with 'the right' set of lenses for my R8. But I settled on a similar group to you, but different. I have the RF 15-30, RF 24-105/f4, RF 100-400, and RF600. This covers a lot of situations, but I am a sucker for bokeh. So, I recently added 2 primes; an EF 50 1.4 and 85 1.8; mostly for portraits. These lenses look beautiful to me but sometimes don't focus at all. I have to switch to manual focus if I want to keep shooting. Only does it when under pressure (of course). I'll have to figure that one out. I don't care about weather sealing. I've never had it so maybe I don't know what I'm missing. :) My problem now is figuring out a camera bag for my various scenarios. I have too much gear. I also have an IR-converted SLR and a Mamiya 645. Plus lights. BTW, the Godox V1 is really awesome and works well with the r cameras. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and doing this video.

@DanYosua

6 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing yours! I tried the 50 f1.4 on my Rebel for a bit, then adapted on my RP. I eventually sold it as it was kinda soft and lacking contrast wide open so I felt like that was defeating the purpose of the upgrade from the f1.8 a bit. I remember mine adapting well, but the RP definitely couldn't shoot as fast. Weather sealing for me is mostly peace of mind, particularly when traveling. I just don't want a scenario where I pack a thoughtful combo and can't use one of the pieces confidently. Most of the time it's not a problem... but in Ireland for instance, I was super glad I brought the 24-105 and 70-200 for this reason. And this is the reason I might be hesitant to fly with the 100-400. Haha I love a good bag and I think that piece is often overlooked/under appreciated. And similarly tricky to get close to a one-size-fits-all recommendation. The 600 packs small for what it is, but still a little awkward when packed I imagine.

Great video, good script and good video presentation with 2 cameras

@DanYosua

7 ай бұрын

Thanks, glad you liked it, and welcome!

My Low budget APSC core four: Sony 18-135, sigma 18-50, viltrox-23, sigma 56 :D

@DanYosua

7 ай бұрын

Another core four! That sounds solid.

I've been using the trinity since 2005 on my D70. 17-35mm f/2.8, a 24-70mm f/2.8, and a 70-200mm f/2.8

@DanYosua

7 ай бұрын

Oh wow, that's a good run! Are they all holding up?

Hi, thx for your great content and mentioning the Samyang 85 1.4 RF AF. Such a great value lens. I used to have the great RF 24-70 2.8 and did “upgrade it” last year for the beast RF 28-70 F2… but finally I recently gave it up. it was too big and heavy for me… I finally ended up by “downgrading” to old EF prime 2nd hand instead: - 24mm 1.4L mark 2 - 50mm 1.2L (I hesitated with the EF sigma art 50 1.4… but got the canon L for the same price, excellent condition) And with the rest of money I’ve got a second OG R6 during Black Friday So I usually shoot either 24+50 or RF 35 + 85 1.4 with 2 exact bodies instead of the 28-70… I know I’m loosing image quality but F1.2/1.4 to F2 is such a biggest difference from 2.8 to 2 to my opinion I’m also using the EF 135 F2L for sport photo (indoor ice hockey from the close border of the ice) with only one hand, even if the burst mode is limited to 6.5 fps 😢(the RF Samsung though could burst to 12fps mechanical) For light travel still using the RF 24-105 STM + 134… but seriously considering going to the RF 70-200F4

@DanYosua

7 ай бұрын

Wishing people could still get the Samyang new. Sounds like a great setup, thanks for sharing! I'd love to try 135mm for hockey. I took the 85mm out one year for pond hockey. It was a bit slow to keep up with action, but I got a few keepers, and wide open it made for a really interesting look with the snow coming down.

great video, it's too bad at 2:52 they don't make the samyang 85 1.4 anymore, those 3rd party 85mm lens were awesome, great video!

@DanYosua

7 ай бұрын

Thanks! Yeah, that's such a shame, it's really a cool one. Really hoping that this year Canon finally opens the mount up wide 🤞

For that 100-400mm you could get a Canon R7, with the 1.6x crop you'll get a 640mm equivalent for photos, and for video, even better, the R7 has another 1.8x crop 4k mode that will get you to 1152mm without loosing quanlity !! have you considered that ? I'm considering the 100-400mm acutally now that I have the R7

@DanYosua

6 ай бұрын

I'm testing it out on a long-term rental right now! It's certainly intriguing - I like the idea of both that, and the 70-200 on the R7, but I need to test more. It has a lot of similar advantages as the R8 on the content side. So far it's holding up in longer recordings, 4k looks great, I like recording to both cards. But it's a pain in tight spaces without a wider lens, wish Canon had a nice 20mm for something like this. And not as multipurpose on the photo side for this reason given what I have. To be continued!

@YoussefHallouly

6 ай бұрын

@@DanYosuaYeah R6 is my camera for when I need a wide angle lens and bokeh, and R7 will be my wildlife camera :)

@DanYosua

6 ай бұрын

@YoussefHallouly if I started getting real deep into wildlife, then I’d take a more serious look for sure, and I already see why many have this as their combo. I do wish the dials and buttons were closer in layout between the two 🥲

Thumbnail is 🔥 as always!

@DanYosua

7 ай бұрын

🙌 This was version two, and took some time...

Great video and photos Dan. Do you use preset for photos or only with filters?

@DanYosua

7 ай бұрын

Thanks! I do use some of my own presets (or copy paste global settings within the same project if I'm looking for more consistency), sometimes I use filters, but I usually use a lot of local edits with LR masking. All the photos here were edited, in my other videos, I usually include a swipe animation for raw/edit. For a long time, a pair of LR workflow videos have been on my list. Something like 1) Basic editing and 2) LR masking. Is that a series that might be helpful to see this year?

good summary. :-) About the long end next to the RF 100-400 5.6-8.0 you have is my recommendation: the RF 600mm F11. People tend to underestimate that lens and it is really compact and light weight. greetings from the Netherlands. Onno Nugteren.

@DanYosua

7 ай бұрын

I hear good things about it, I tried the 800mm for fun long ago, definitely overdue to try the 600mm now that I've learned more since then.

@onnonugteren2935

7 ай бұрын

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I had to laugh at the fact that you moved your camera angle just to capture yourself saying, "it's kind of a boring lens" 😂

@DanYosua

7 ай бұрын

Could have been my production assistant, that I most certainly have 😅

Hi Dan, have you considered the RF 14-35 F4 L? I'm recently going bonkers over this lens. It has such an amazing picture quality, very wide angle and those sunstars on the wider end?! WOW! I will probably create a holy trinity of lenses for myself with those three RF F4 L's. Currently I only own the 24-105 F4L with my Canon R6 and I can't really justify going F2.8 with any of the Canon's current proposition as the prices are simply ridiculous (not to mention that you loose some of the portability of their F4 equivalents when traveling).

@DanYosua

5 ай бұрын

I have, and considerate it often though I haven't use it yet 😅 Trying to rent that one for an extended time, perhaps for a fall trip. I have some reservations despite all the good - I would use f2.8 for the occasional astro, and would prefer to have it for video. Going with the 14-35mm, I could keep the Sigma, and that combo would be great. But the second I pack for a flight, I'd still be torn between them and wouldn't pack both. I'm trying to wait to see what Canon is releasing this year before doing anything right now because I agree, they're pricey.

Hi Dan.. Love your video. I am R6 shooter also. As Canon has policy of not allowing 3rd party lens for the RF mount, what will be the impact of purchasing the Samyang 85mm RF F/1.4 lens now for R6? Will it still work seamlessly or whether the new firmware in R6 will make this Samyang lens not functioning? What's your experience on this recently? Thanks!

@DanYosua

6 ай бұрын

Edit: Otherwise, mine (and seemingly up to 1.8.1) is working fine. The harder part is probably finding a lens dock if you suspect the lens is still on version 2. I'm on 1.4.0 for the R6, so pretty behind 🙈 and partly afraid for this reason. I believe dual card video recording was enabled here so I wanted that. Found this on DP review from a month ago: "...I was several updates behind and decided to try firmware 1.8.2 today and then the latest 1.8.3, but both removed the autofocus capability of the lens completely. I had to revert back to 1.8.1 Thankfully, it worked, and I'm now simply staying put at 1.8.1." 😬 And I did update the lens itself using the dock, to version 3, which enabled IBIS, H, H+.

Really hoping the rumors of an RF 28 faster than a 2.8 is true

@DanYosua

7 ай бұрын

We can hope 🤞 Might finally be the 24/28/35 year

I just ordered an R8 because I decided I'd rather have an R8 and R7 than just an R6II (I've been agonizing on this, I hate the R8 battery so much). I've got the cheap RF 16, 24, 35, and 50, as well as 100-400. On the R7 I almost never use the 35mm so I think I just don't like the 50ish full-frame focal length. I'm expecting the 100-400 will live on the R7, and the 24 and 35 will be the primary R8 lenses, and the 50 will be used occasionally on either body (or maybe never on R8... no lens IS or IBIS). 16mm full frame seems wider than useful (but was necessary for the R7) so we'll see if I keep it. Every once in a while I hike up a mountain and I bet the 16 will come out then.

@DanYosua

7 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing! This is a tough choice for everyone. I was wondering about the R6ii for myself, as it would help with the long recording stuff for me. But at the end of day, the original really does what I need for photo, so I felt I didn't want to spend to trade up and still have one body. Having a second makes these videos, bigger trips, and balancing freelance and personal projects so much more streamlined. I similarly struggled with a 14mm on full frame, just didn't use it enough for a prime, but agree - would be something I would want for an R7.

Yes the Samyang 85 is a rare bird, but I love using mine. Thanks Canon for blocking the Mk2 version for us.

@DanYosua

4 ай бұрын

Yeah 😩 I forget sometimes I have my R6 on a lower firmware to take most advantage. Gonna be a problem if they ever entice me to lift the record limit on a new firmware. At that point I’ll be looking for a new 85…

@seanmarlow9514

4 ай бұрын

@@DanYosua the second gen Tamron 90 macro is worth looking at. I use it as my main macro, and at 2.8 wide it’s way dimmer than the Samyang, but it is sharp wide open.

@DanYosua

4 ай бұрын

@seanmarlow9514 if potentially consider, it’d be nice to get some macro capability back for sure. I plan to use it as long as I can and evaluate options then. I haven’t ruled out upgrading to a faster 50mm, so I’m partially waiting to see if there’s a native f1.4 coming there.

The RF 24-105 f4 is the dream lens! I saw on your previous videos you owned the EF-S 17-55 f2.8, do you think this is still a good lens to have over the RF 24-105? I’m currently using the EOS R

@DanYosua

7 ай бұрын

I'm actually not sure exactly what will happen, either the 17-55 isn't going to cover the full sensor and you'll see a heavy vignette or maybe the R will crop in so you get better coverage. Not great image quality either way. That's why I decided to sell mine alongside my Rebel. And I was happy trading for the F4 zoom lens on the RP kit knowing I'd get better low light performance.

@M4rc3llana

7 ай бұрын

@@DanYosua oh interesting! You reckon the RF 24-105 f4 will have better lowlight than the EF-S 17-55 f2.8 😮😮 But then again, it is better technology and is native to the R cameras!! I’ll just keep saving and dreaming until I build my own f4 kit 🤞

Great summary. I gotta say I'm starting to sour on Canon and their lack of 3rd party lenses and slow releases. Still no 24, 28 or 35mm L primes years after R release...like wtf. The budget RF lenses are generally good, especially the 16mm f/2.8, 28mm f/2.8 and the 50mm but no weather sealing, some external focusing quirks, and required canon Digital Lens Optimizer do get the most out of them. 28-70 f/2 and the 24-105 f/2.8 are all cool and all but nearly cost used car prices and double as gym weights. No thanks. Meanwhile, Sony shooters can buy things like the Tamron 28-200 f/2.8-5.6 and are getting amazing photos out of them. I sold my Canon R5C and bought a Fujifilm X-H2S and don't really miss anything except the face-only AF mode. Added benefit of the video camera and stills camera NOT competing for lenses in the bag.

@DanYosua

7 ай бұрын

Yooo that's a big move! What lenses are you using with it so far? I'm feeling torn over a lot of the same things, and it's a big reason I've been hesitant to invest in any of the major pieces. I just want to be able to see more of their landscape before committing that deep, and like you said, that full picture is developing much slower than I've hoped. I've seen more and more about the Fujifilm X-H2S, and the Lumix S5 IIX. The latter looks pretty cool too, but maybe still one more generation of AF performance away from what Canon/Sony seem to be?

Have you done an r8 review yet?

@DanYosua

7 ай бұрын

Not a dedicated video yet, hoping to put together thoughts on R6 vs. R7 vs. R8 sometime this spring. So far, it's great. A big hit if you can live with one card and without IBIS. I just try to use smaller cards, swap them each day on a trip, and dump them more frequently. For a while, Canon didn't have great options in this price point to strongly recommend, but the R8 fills that spot nicely.

„Canon shooters will literally do anything to have a red ring on their lenses“

@DanYosua

7 ай бұрын

Nope, not anything. EVERYTHING

Brooo welcome backk! Miss you dude!

@DanYosua

7 ай бұрын

I didn't leave!

guy's using sony sd card in canon body😅😜

@DanYosua

4 ай бұрын

So far no damage 😂

The RF 24-105 F2.8 came out of course after Canon's major sale when I got the RF 24-70 F2.8. Which I love don't get me wrong, but my plan was to also purchase the RF 85 F1.2. Now that I think about it, wouldn't my combo wind up being more expensive than it would have been if I just purchased the RF 24-105 F2.8? 🥲 Or am I just getting sucked into the "new gear" mindset? I'm torn. Help. By the way I also have the Canon R8, and I purchased my dream lens Rf 28-70 for all of 5 minutes and remember it being so uncomfortable on the R8 body. So I don't know if the RF 24-105 would feel the same way.

@DanYosua

6 ай бұрын

I've only rented the 85 f1.2's, so I'm limited in my practical use here... For some people the 24-105 f2.8 probably fills the role of both, for some people it might not. Probably comes down to three things 1) how much you shoot extra low light 2) how much video work 3) and how you feel generally about the focal lengths (are you dying for 70-105, do you love 85). If you're not in a massive rush, and this is as big a year as it's supposed to be, maybe we even get a smaller 85mm f1.6L or something. The 85mm f1.2 look is hard to replicate. If you're after the reach, maybe the 135 comes into the mix as an option. Haha when it doubt, wait it out. And test in the meantime if feasible.

@candylisous6767

6 ай бұрын

@DanYosua This was super helpful! I think I'm just interested in the 85 mm and 105 mm reach. I mostly do phoyography, and I know that the way times are now, I should be doing more videos. I also like the cost effectiveness of it, but you're right no zoom lens can really replicate a prime look. I will definitely wait it out since the lens has a lot of video features that would be wasteful to me. If anything, I can always sell the RF 24-70 when I'm ready to expand on my lenses.

@DanYosua

6 ай бұрын

@@candylisous6767 best of luck in the decision!