Canon R5 WORTH BUYING FOR LANDSCAPE PHOTOGRAPHY? R5 vs 5DSr

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I extensively tested the Canon R5. I only evaluated it for Landscape Photography. I compared it to my Canon 5DSr
A couple of weeks ago I borrowed Canon's new flagship camera, the R5. I road-tested it to see if it's worth buying for Landscape Photography. I know how fantastic the camera generally is. It's pretty awesome on so many counts. Its 8K video is incredible. The shutter rate and focusing attributes are mind-blowing but... how good is it at capturing Landscape images?
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The landscape photography market is huge. There are millions of people that are willing to pay strong money to buy the best camera on the market. The question is at £4300 will they be paying for a product that really is the best camera on the market?
I tested the camera for image size, quality and Dynamic range. I also tested the cameras ability to endure severe post-processing, high ISO's and tight cropping.
To make the test fair I pitted the Canon R5 against my goto landscape photography camera the Canon 5DSr. It's an interesting test because the Canon 5DSr recently cost me £1200 and that's a far cry from the current market price of £4300 for the R5
I think you might find the results a little interesting!
Feel free to leave a comment
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  • @GaryGough
    @GaryGough3 жыл бұрын

    Discover unlimited Magazines & Newspapers all in one app Click the link below and start your free 6-week trial readly.me/garygough21 tinyurl.com/cndrbz8e

  • @jurgendekeyser3877
    @jurgendekeyser38773 жыл бұрын

    Down to earth conclusion from a down to earth man. That's why your channel is one of the few I still follow. Keep up the good work and thank you sir!

  • @GaryGough

    @GaryGough

    3 жыл бұрын

    Awesome, thank you! 👍👍

  • @johnhare6652
    @johnhare66523 жыл бұрын

    Every single person looking at upgrading/changing cameras should listen carefully to your summary and apply your thought process. Nailed it when you stressed the type of photography you do and intend to use the new camera for. Horses for courses, it really is as simple as that but often we find it difficult to ignore the noise of sales hype. One point I'd like to make about when you pushed the files from under North Pier, whilst I accept there is no way under normal shooting situations we would ever push a single fie that far there is a certain degree of reassurance in knowing you CAN, it gives confidence in the kit you are using and this should not be underestimated. I have recently bought a Nikon D850 to replace the Nikon D750 and the increased dynamic range really blew me away, will I ever use it? highly unlikely as a landscape photographer, was it comforting to know I could? As a hobbyist, yes. Thank you for another superb real-life test, you really did put so much into this one.

  • @GaryGough

    @GaryGough

    3 жыл бұрын

    Cheers John. You're right about knowing it's there if you ever need it 👍👍

  • @paulmilovich2982
    @paulmilovich29823 жыл бұрын

    Great informative video Gary, always look forward to them, also glad that you are a "hard core" Canon Man.

  • @GaryGough

    @GaryGough

    3 жыл бұрын

    Happy to change if it was viable and worth the hassle :)

  • @J4060
    @J40603 жыл бұрын

    A sincere opinion from a sincere man. Words of wisdom from a real, not just a youtuber, pro photographer. People, please forget the pixel spotting forever. I don't want to recall now the words the great Ansel Adams said. Please go outside and enjoy photography with whatever camera you can afford! Thank you very much, Gary. You are an inspiration. All the best.

  • @dorianonthebike8448
    @dorianonthebike84483 жыл бұрын

    GREAT RESPECT for the sane and honest review Gary! A real pleasure to watch.

  • @GaryGough

    @GaryGough

    3 жыл бұрын

    Cheers xx

  • @robwhiteley1
    @robwhiteley13 жыл бұрын

    Thank You ! Thank You ! Thank You ! Gary ...what a brilliant comparison, and thank you Colin for lending Gary the means of doing his usual 'From the heart' blogs. Extremely impressive and professional presentation , packed with great information. I've followed you for a long time, sadly not seen much (my fault) since you left podcasting with 'the boys' ...I'm back in the saddle - Looking forward to catching up ...Keep up the GREAT work

  • @steffore1
    @steffore13 жыл бұрын

    Fabulous information Gary and a big thanks for putting all your time into it 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

  • @GaryGough

    @GaryGough

    3 жыл бұрын

    Cheers Steve 👍👍

  • @linda9031
    @linda90313 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Gary! I also have a 5diii and was waiting, as you were, for the 5dv that didn't happen. I am really grateful for your video which reiterated my own thoughts and helped me cut through the hype and confusion to make that final upgrading decision. Again thank you.

  • @RM831BC4E4
    @RM831BC4E43 жыл бұрын

    Loved the comparison and I think you have explained in much depth with very good proof. Also allowing members to download the files and see for themselves is also another bonus. Once again forever grateful of the knowledge, experience and content you share with us every week. Richie. X

  • @GaryGough

    @GaryGough

    3 жыл бұрын

    Cheers Richie 👍👍

  • @RM831BC4E4

    @RM831BC4E4

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@GaryGough welcome as always Gary. Richie x

  • @alandargie9358
    @alandargie93584 ай бұрын

    Cracking video, thanks! Can't believe I've only just discovered your channel :).

  • @Stealthman42
    @Stealthman42 Жыл бұрын

    Gary I can't tell you how much this video means to me! I am in this exact moment trying to decide between these 2 cameras. I agree with you 110%! I'm transitioning from a portrait to Landscape/Architectural photography. I'll be retiring in a few years and I am purchasing my last camera. Seeing these photos and comparing them, I have no need to go with the R5. The 5DSr is the camera for me. Thank you very much for this video! Your photography inspires me to push further into my craft and achieve these types of photographs on my own. Bravo Mr. Gough!

  • @gersonfischer9771
    @gersonfischer97713 жыл бұрын

    Great video and comparation, thanks for sharing Gary

  • @GaryGough

    @GaryGough

    3 жыл бұрын

    Cheers xx

  • @mzeeshan
    @mzeeshan2 жыл бұрын

    Loved the video and your way of explanation.

  • @GaryGough

    @GaryGough

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks a lot 😊

  • @babarghias
    @babarghias3 жыл бұрын

    Very detailed comparison 👌. Thanks very much for sharing 😊 I liked and subscribed 👍

  • @brenvideo2272
    @brenvideo22723 жыл бұрын

    Apart from the obvious bells and whistles on the R5 and R6, I have found some unexpected benefits of going mirrorless. As an older photographer I found myself struggling with carrying the weight of the 5dmk4 and tripod. The R6 is lighter and IBIS allows me to use lower shutter speeds without always having to lug the tripod. Additionally, setting all the parameters so that I can control them whilst looking through the viewfinder means I don't have to keep taking my glasses on and off - I can control and review images through the view finder. It doesn't sound much but I have found it has really helped me to enjoy my photography again.

  • @GaryGough

    @GaryGough

    3 жыл бұрын

    Nothing worse than glasses on glasses off every 2 minutes. It drives me crazy :) That's a good enought reason to go mirrorless :)

  • @vantagepointphotography

    @vantagepointphotography

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@GaryGough I am with you there BUT.... I found out a new pair of glasses that allows me to see far away as well as short distance without having to take them off are about $300. This is far less expensive than a $4000 upgrade just for that feature. But yes, I am taking my glasses off every 2 minutes until my new pair of glasses arrive on the mail and it is extra annoying. :-) By the way, your video is by far the best ever made on that topic and trust me, I have watched them all.

  • @DrRussell
    @DrRussell2 жыл бұрын

    This is going to completely change our R5/5DSr workflow. Thank you so much for putting in all the effort.

  • @guntramizuka9608
    @guntramizuka96083 жыл бұрын

    Yet another great bit of content Gary, Well done mate !!!

  • @GaryGough

    @GaryGough

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks 👍

  • @brianbeattyphotography
    @brianbeattyphotography3 жыл бұрын

    Great video Gary. I was able to grab a lightly used 5DSR with only 4,000 shots on it for $1k when people were unloading them last year to fund R5 purchases. I could not be happier and use it extensively for all of my photography videos. The fact that the 5DSR and R5 200% images are identical is remarkable.

  • @GaryGough

    @GaryGough

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm very happy the 5DSr too Brian, it really is a belting camera 👍👍

  • @stevebell3809
    @stevebell38093 жыл бұрын

    Spot on review Gary and beautifully articulated. I have had my 5DSr for a few year and had the chance to test it against the R5 extensively in the Dales a few weeks ago. Exactly the same conclusions for landscapes although I didn’t push the files as far as you did.

  • @GaryGough

    @GaryGough

    3 жыл бұрын

    Cheers Steve 👍👍

  • @randybelaire8439
    @randybelaire84393 жыл бұрын

    I am so glad I found this channel. I love your work and your common down to earth sense.

  • @mikeswoods
    @mikeswoods3 жыл бұрын

    Really enjoyed this video Gary and what you have put forward as a comparison makes absolute sense. 📷👍

  • @GaryGough

    @GaryGough

    3 жыл бұрын

    Cheers Mike 👍👍

  • @BertL1
    @BertL13 жыл бұрын

    One of your best videos Gary. I enjoy them all, but this one was worth your work, and redoing that closing as many times as you did was the right choice. Thx for keeping the tone straight - mind vs. heart - true need vs. desire. Well done. I also primarily focus on landscape and architecture, but play around with or at least have the desire to do more macro, pets, family shots and who knows what since this is only a hobby for me - nothing professional. I too don’t have a need for video today, but having more capabilities is plus in terms of hopefully allowing me to hang on to this body a little longer than I perhaps otherwise would. Be it personal computers or electronic/camera gear, I always try to buy a little more capability than I presently need, so it hopefully lasts me a little longer. I tend to leap frog technology changes vs. doing many perhaps more expensive incremental changes along the way. Besides using my iPhone 12 Pro that is always with me, I wanted to make the jump from my trusty 5DIII mirror to mirrorless one day. I only had those two cameras - one primarily for snaps when I’m out and about, the other when I want to focus on my hobby, bring out the good glass and perhaps the tripod. I’ve been watching and waiting in the wings as the mirrorless tech has been evolving. When the R5 came out, I consciously allowed my heart and desire to override my normal analytical ways, spending the extra cash for an R5 over a lesser mirrorless model that would have fit my needs today just as well. The R5 is much more than I need or presently use today, and like you, I would never recommend it feature/function/price-wise for someone that does only landscape. I’m glad to have made the switch to mirrorless and hopeful my R5 serves me well for years to come, with plenty of capabilities to explore beyond my core love of landscape and architecture. THX AGAIN for your great channel Gary.

  • @GaryGough

    @GaryGough

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm sure you'll be rocking the R5 for years and years to come. It's a beast of a machine. Cheers Bert 👍👍

  • @alanclark9691
    @alanclark96912 жыл бұрын

    Interesting analysis Gary. Your honesty and openness in summarising your findings is very refreshing.

  • @MrsMinx50
    @MrsMinx503 жыл бұрын

    Interesting points made Gary good to see the differences between them also I have to check mine now cheers Gary 👍

  • @GaryGough

    @GaryGough

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks May 👍👍

  • @billsheehy9776
    @billsheehy97763 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, a no nonsense well done video. Very professional and informing. I had the same questions but you hit it right on the head and discussed it as a seasoned photographer. So refreshing, well done.

  • @GaryGough

    @GaryGough

    3 жыл бұрын

    Cheers Bill 👍

  • @paulnichols393
    @paulnichols3933 жыл бұрын

    Great video as always! Just a note on file size - they're varying so much due to what's actually in the frame - the more complex a scene is the higher the file size will be. If you fill the frame with a white sheet of paper followed by filling it with grass on your lawn, the lawn shot will have a considerably bigger file size due to the fact there's more detail in the image and thus more information needs to be stored in the file. File size even changes with ISO - the higher the ISO the larger the file size, this is because the noise itself in high ISO images needs to be stored within the file. You can see the effect of this if you look at the counter telling you how many images you have left on your card, as you increase ISO you'll see that number drop. Love your channel, your enthusiasm has certainly inspired me to keep going out with my camera over the last incredibly difficult 13 months so thank you for your efforts!

  • @GaryGough

    @GaryGough

    3 жыл бұрын

    Cheers Paul 👍👍

  • @tanjalaudien8858
    @tanjalaudien88583 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for introducing readly, I never knew what it was. I hope it worked using you link as I had to switch to Germany. I hope this helps to support you a little bit. I really like your channel and hope to see many more videos! Best regards from Germany! Tanja

  • @GaryGough

    @GaryGough

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Tanja ❤👍

  • @paullanoue5228
    @paullanoue52283 жыл бұрын

    Great job Gary. Happy that you explained the camera like a tool. Pick the right one for the job. In your video the best part of those cameras was you.

  • @dmay1100
    @dmay11003 жыл бұрын

    First off Mk3 Canadian Landscape photographer that just got a 5Dsr a year back. I waited for years for the prices to come down on the camera that has become my workhorse. I LOVE THE THING! Your video was very timely and it helped me see the value of my present camera. Your video was a good check against the feelings of having to keep up with the joneses. Thanks from sunning Alberta!!

  • @GaryGough

    @GaryGough

    3 жыл бұрын

    Cheers Drew. Stunning Alberta sounds very nice indeed 😁😁

  • @aviatorman8
    @aviatorman82 жыл бұрын

    Hello Gary. Greetings from WA State, USA! I found your video thru a search on the subject. I am very glad that I found your channel. This high quality professional grade informative video is one of the best ever I’ve seen on KZread. You convinced me that my mighty 5DSR is a keep for landscape photography. Thank you very much! Liked and subscribed.

  • @GaryGough

    @GaryGough

    2 жыл бұрын

    Very kind of you to say, thank you 👍👍

  • @aviatorman8

    @aviatorman8

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@GaryGough thank you Gary. Do you discuss post processing techniques on your channel? That’s an interesting topic to me and would love to learn from you.

  • @stsorsby
    @stsorsby3 жыл бұрын

    As always Gary a very balanced review👍. Thanks for sharing

  • @GaryGough

    @GaryGough

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks 👍

  • @912582
    @9125829 ай бұрын

    Hi Gary, interestingly I made these comments on you Mk III vs R6 vid, (hadn't found this one then). In short my 5Ds does what you have shown and described perfectly here. Only additional observation was the apparent noise in the video, then I realised your shirt really is like that ;) Great job again, thank you! I'm a bit late commenting I know but the 5Ds means I still don't need to change.

  • @susanstarr522
    @susanstarr5223 жыл бұрын

    The LDS Temple is beautiful. Thanks for sharing.

  • @leegalashan3890
    @leegalashan38903 жыл бұрын

    Great video Gary I have an R5 but I agree with your conclusions, for LANDSCAPE photography it really is not worth the extra cost. For me, I shoot portraits and landscapes and wanted a camera that could excel in both disciplines....I'm not disappointed at all. Keep up the great work, always look forward to your videos.

  • @GaryGough

    @GaryGough

    3 жыл бұрын

    Cheers Lee 👍👍

  • @4me2c1000
    @4me2c10003 жыл бұрын

    So passionate...Well done, and thank you!

  • @GaryGough

    @GaryGough

    3 жыл бұрын

    Cheers Greg 👍👍

  • @alnwill
    @alnwill3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Gary, a great test and very interesting. I upgraded from a 5DII to the R, and apart from the obvious advantages of mirrorless, I'm not so sure that image quality actually improved. Sure, you get an extra 10Mp, but for landscape photography there is no call for heavy cropping. I didn't do any side-by-side comparisons, but I think, looking at my old landscape images with large texture variation, that the 5DII may have slightly better colour saturation. For action (birds) I still use my trusty old 7DII, and yes, the R5 would be fantastic, but as an armature, it's far too expensive, so am waiting for an R7. Great show.

  • @GaryGough

    @GaryGough

    3 жыл бұрын

    Another 5D2 fanboy 😁 The 7D is an excellent choice of camera as well. Interesting to hear your positive findings regards the colour pallet of 5D2 👍👍

  • @stevensetzer7888
    @stevensetzer78883 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Gary. I think you did a great job at the comparison of these 2 cameras.

  • @GaryGough

    @GaryGough

    3 жыл бұрын

    Cheers Steve 👍👍

  • @ivanstewart4511
    @ivanstewart45113 жыл бұрын

    Such a truthful evaluation. Thank you Gary.. You have most certainly earned the respect and trust of those that use this equipment and have enlightend us as to how we should approach the future... Thank you again....so much. Best wishes 2 U.

  • @GaryGough

    @GaryGough

    3 жыл бұрын

    Very welcome, cheers Ivan 👍👍

  • @WhitestoneLLCLauderbach-mg9qg
    @WhitestoneLLCLauderbach-mg9qg Жыл бұрын

    Good video. I do landscape and bird photography as well as some event photography. I have owned a 5DSr for several years. I also had a 5D MK IV which I traded for an R6. I agree that the 5DSr still does a remarkable job when hi-res is needed. The R6 is good for the other times. Your findings confirmed my experience.

  • @GaryGough

    @GaryGough

    Жыл бұрын

    Cheers 👍👍

  • @nickchiarello3870
    @nickchiarello38703 жыл бұрын

    Great Video Gary thank you so much. I'm in my early 60s and a very keen hobbyist who changed to the R5 as my first full frame from a 70D, which as you mentioned, was a huge leap forward. But the 5DRS was a camera I was also considering as a close friend of mine has the same camera and his images always looked fantastic when we compared after a Landscape shoot. The flexibility of the R5 for means I can use it for many other things other than Landscape like motor sport although shooting Landscape images is my first love.

  • @GaryGough

    @GaryGough

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's not a bad intruduction to full-frame cameras :) The R5 is amazing on so many fronts. Great choice Nick 👍👍

  • @MrNaveedmoscow

    @MrNaveedmoscow

    2 ай бұрын

    @Nick Extremely happy to see your comment since I am also planning to upgrade from my 70D to R5.

  • @ianhamer4294
    @ianhamer42943 жыл бұрын

    I'm a Nikon user and have been for 40 plus years. For me to watch a video about Canon gear just proves how good you are Gary.

  • @GaryGough

    @GaryGough

    3 жыл бұрын

    Consider yourself added to my Christmas card list 👍👍 If I knew you were a Nikon user I would have banned you a long time ago lol 😁😁 Take care xx

  • @keithsandercock1412

    @keithsandercock1412

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm in the same boat as you (except Nikon for 61 years).... agree with you 100%. Gary is a class act.

  • @jacksriracha2197
    @jacksriracha21973 жыл бұрын

    That's a fair recommendation coming from a great Landscape Photographer... thank you..

  • @GaryGough

    @GaryGough

    3 жыл бұрын

    Very kind of you to say Jack 👍👍

  • @tonymckeage1028
    @tonymckeage10283 жыл бұрын

    Good morning from New Zealand, Great Canon R5 Vlog, thanks for sharing, have a great day

  • @GaryGough

    @GaryGough

    3 жыл бұрын

    Cheers Tony xx

  • @neilcole3406
    @neilcole34063 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for your honest opinion Gary, appreciate!

  • @GaryGough

    @GaryGough

    3 жыл бұрын

    Always cheers Neil 👍👍

  • @paradesos
    @paradesos3 жыл бұрын

    You get inspiration from magazines and we get it from you .excellent work

  • @chrisditchburn8337
    @chrisditchburn8337 Жыл бұрын

    Only just found you on here mate and that’s been a big help 👍

  • @imAnsar
    @imAnsar3 жыл бұрын

    Wonderful video. Nice fair comparison

  • @GaryGough

    @GaryGough

    3 жыл бұрын

    Cheers 👍👍

  • @haydennettleton3272
    @haydennettleton32722 жыл бұрын

    5dsr is stunning camera. I brought a second hand one a couple of years back, unfortunately I made the mistake of selling it and buying a Nikon d850. The d850 is a great camera too but outside of the dynamic range I prefer the Canon system, all the Canon L glass I used was noticeably sharper than the Nikon equivalent especially corner performance.

  • @andrewclark6711
    @andrewclark67113 жыл бұрын

    Good and honest video - I have moved from the 5D4 to the R5 and have no regrets to me it was an upgrade but at a price.

  • @mariabb5407
    @mariabb54073 жыл бұрын

    I totally agree with your conclusions! Thanks for the video

  • @susanfirth2279
    @susanfirth22793 жыл бұрын

    Great comparison Gary. I would love to get my hands on the R5 - I shoot landscape and wildlife. But can't justify that price tag at the moment. Nice to see you sticking with Canon. Always enjoy your videos.

  • @GaryGough

    @GaryGough

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Susan 👍👍

  • @markjutsum6187
    @markjutsum61873 жыл бұрын

    Spot on review Gary.

  • @mongpal
    @mongpal2 жыл бұрын

    Great review, sir! I just purchased the brand new 5DS R.

  • @GaryGough

    @GaryGough

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hope you enjoy it!

  • @PMCN53
    @PMCN533 жыл бұрын

    I moved up the the Canon 5DSR in 2016 from my older 5DMk2. The 5DSR is a superb camera and I'm completely satisfied with the image quality. I only shoot Landscapes and can compensate for some shortfall in dynamic range by exposure bracketing & using graduated filters.... simple. The arguments around the mirrorless camera world is weight, that is quite ridiculous indeed! Put the Canon f2.8 70 - 200 USM Mk2 on the either body and its going to be heavy, the glass is heavy, high quality. Good glass & 50 million pixels you get a sharp image if you do all the other things needed: stable camera, appropriate shutter speed, focus correctly. The next Canon Camera that has 100meg sensor & medium format sensor, then I'll consider a change....maybe LOL!

  • @599miata
    @599miata3 жыл бұрын

    A very fair review Gary. 👌👌👌

  • @andykennerley8159
    @andykennerley81593 жыл бұрын

    Gary I can listen to you all day mate thanks 👍 🇬🇧

  • @tobyjugg6202
    @tobyjugg62023 жыл бұрын

    Thats one excellent video Gary - no nonsense, just testing and saying it as it is - well done you. Personally I could never, ever justify that kind of money on a hobby but I still found the vid very interesting. Canon must be just aiming at you pro's with a tag like that, same as all the other brands. Us peasants are well and truly being ignored now.

  • @GaryGough

    @GaryGough

    3 жыл бұрын

    lol we're all peasants Toby 😁😁 your words not mine btw lol

  • @andyjsmith1981
    @andyjsmith19813 жыл бұрын

    Really enjoyed that Gary, I shoot with a Nikon D810 (36 mega pixel) and also find the file sizes are bigger than 36mb almost all of the time, usually in the 39-42mb range. I upgraded from a D5600 (24 megapixel) and again this ranged from 22mb-29mb all the time. Fascinating never even considered this! Loved the video and look forward to the next! All the best 👍

  • @GaryGough

    @GaryGough

    3 жыл бұрын

    Cheers Andy 👍👍

  • @garfgo
    @garfgo Жыл бұрын

    Now it's 2023 and the 5dsr can be had used for $1000 in excellent condition. The R5 is about $3000 new. For 1/3 the cost it's got me thinking about picking up the 5Dsr. What does everyone else think?

  • @GarrettLucasWV
    @GarrettLucasWV2 жыл бұрын

    I appreciate the time and effort you put into this. I've got an R5 but I saw that the 5DS R was on sale right now for only $1500 US. It sold new for about $4000. At $1500, I thought it would make a great every day camera so that I wasn't wearing out my brand new R5 on unimportant stuff and it will also let me keep running my EF glass a few more years at least. My 1DX is getting long in the tooth and has seen lots of use. It's going to give up the ghost any day now. It seems from this video that $1500 is a steal for the 5DSR considering the image quality it has. Sure, the R5 may outperform it a bit a the extremes, but like you say, I rarely find myself in those situations. If and when I do, I can always bring out the R5. And the bonus is my R5 uses the same exact battery as the 5DS R and I've got 8 of them waiting to be use. Thanks to your video, this choice seems to be a no-brainer.

  • @GaryGough

    @GaryGough

    2 жыл бұрын

    Glad it was helpful, cheers 👍👍

  • @martienhoogebeen8434
    @martienhoogebeen84343 жыл бұрын

    Nice and clean results! I recently sold my Nikon D750 and all the lenses I had. Upgraded to an Z6 mark II with only two lenses. So in a way I downgraded. Didn't cost me a whole lot, all the stuff fits in a much smaller bag and wheighs a lot less. The Z6 is a joy to use. I am happy. But will it make my pictures any better? No, I don't think so. The quality of my pics are in me and not in my gear....I totally agree with you: which goals do you expect from upgrading and what is that you need. See you next week!

  • @GaryGough

    @GaryGough

    3 жыл бұрын

    Cheers Martien, looking forward to it 👍👍

  • @sahilbrar7330
    @sahilbrar7330 Жыл бұрын

    I own a 5DSR, it is the single most incredibly befitting camera for my needs, and while using it for almost everything including landscapes, wildlife, nature, art, macro, sports, portraits and everything else, it is spectacular. The focus system is up for literally anything. i get all shots in focus for whatever i do, my focus rate is almost 100%. i am more than content with the fps. i dont understand who needs any more stops of dynamic range and for what purposes? who would intentionally underexpose that much? yes the high iso performance can sometimes be an issue, but i am ready to work around it and i understand why that would be an issue for some and the weight but they dont bother me. i dont like holding a mirrorless, its utterly unauthentic, and none of the newer models satisfy my needs. i love my 5DSR and my incredible collection of lenses with it. i dont shoot video, so its a perfect camera for me. excellent video, loved the summary hehe, cheers

  • @garybeaumont1373
    @garybeaumont13733 жыл бұрын

    Interesting conclusion now I know your happy with your camera I’ll get the R5. See you soon buddy!

  • @GaryGough

    @GaryGough

    3 жыл бұрын

    lol Bring it on! 😁😁

  • @andybaden5935
    @andybaden59353 жыл бұрын

    Great video Gary, I really enjoyed it. The one comparison between the two camera's I would like to see is a test of the in body stabilisation of the R5 against a tripoded 5DSr, to find at which point the tripod wins. Thanks for posting

  • @GaryGough

    @GaryGough

    3 жыл бұрын

    I don't have the caera anymore. I'm sure the R5 would be amazing though

  • @mondujar279
    @mondujar2793 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting and well thought out. I have had the 5dsr for years now and it’s been great, however I am getting an R5 because of the weight advantage but mainly because I shoot wildlife. If I was shooting landscapes I would definitely stay with the 5dsr. Perhaps I have chosen the wrong genre!

  • @devonopdendries7722
    @devonopdendries77222 жыл бұрын

    I've been shooting landscapes and stills with the 5DMKII for over 11 years now and am finally considering an upgrade. I was looking closely at the 5DSR for a long time, but my attention was taken away by the mirrorless cameras. This video has been very helpful for me, as I am having trouble justifying the cost of the R5 compared to the older 5DSR.

  • @GaryGough

    @GaryGough

    2 жыл бұрын

    Think what you can do with £2k I just save you! 😁😁

  • @manuellazarte5637
    @manuellazarte56373 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Gary Now I spend time with my 5ds to bring out the eye, and see Greatness of Full Frame dslr camera

  • @quazisanjeed6395
    @quazisanjeed639510 ай бұрын

    Thank you for the video. I’m a permanent DSLR user and find no reason whatsoever to switch to mirrorless cameras. Don’t care whether manufacturers are going to make DSLRs in future or not because, I own five Canon pro bodies and ten native lenses that will last for at least ten years more. Therefore, I’m least bothered about gears and instead, concentrate on photography. As a hobbyist, I shoot landscapes, street life and wildlife. For capturing fast action; the EVF lag of mirrorless cameras is a huge turnoff. It never captures what it sees at any given split-second moment. So, glory to mirrored cameras that will never vanish from the market as our good old friend Pentax has decided to continue producing them and not get carried away by the mirrorless hype. Thanks again.

  • @garyprice1082
    @garyprice10823 жыл бұрын

    Great video with wise words and a wise purchase in the 5dsr.

  • @seanmuller5145
    @seanmuller51453 жыл бұрын

    Great Video my friend. I also likes the 5DMARK 3 comparison you a while back. Its good you stress to people " don't believe the hype" about everything Mirrorless. I do nightscape Photagraphy and Astrophotography as a hobby and have the Good Old Canon 6D and 80D and with the correct technique, they do very well. Perhaps a night Photagraphy comparable would be a great idea for a video. As a hobby I can't justify buying a R6 , R5 or A73 to wife. So thank you again for keeping us all grounded and driving it home that DSLR still have great technology and produce great images. Regards Sean

  • @marksweeney8728
    @marksweeney87283 жыл бұрын

    As always great video Gary. Do you think the results would differ if you used the RF lenses on the R5 for landscape photography? Maybe a 3rd video???

  • @GaryGough

    @GaryGough

    3 жыл бұрын

    I used the RF lenses on the R6 comparison video. The difference is marginal. The EF 16-35mm lens is super sharp. The difference between the lenses was minimal. Cheers Mark

  • @Tanren77
    @Tanren773 жыл бұрын

    HI Gary, thanks a lot for the video, the great effort and the availability of the images to test. I made a noise technical analysis using common photography software. It is not how it should be done to be conclusive but the orders of magnitude of the results will be close to the real solution. I took the two images of the under exposed peer from CR2 and CR3 files and increased the shadows +100 in ACR. Then on PS a gauss filter was applied to remove high frequency response (usually associated with noise). Then the filtered image was subtracted from the original one and the results exported as a new document. Finally the mean of the subtraction and the amount of "noisy" pixels were counted. By doing this the results were approximately the following: CR2 file has 12% more noise and 6% more intensity in the noise (possibility to perceive it). This can be done using more specialized tools but also will required more controlled original image parameters. Bottom line: CR2 is noisier, but is the CR3 files almost 4K$ "cleaner"? For web consuming even in 4K displays may be no. For high end printing product/fashion/art/wildlife when for some reason you have this contrast and under exposed situations? May be yes.

  • @GaryGough

    @GaryGough

    3 жыл бұрын

    Blimey, that's pretty technical stuff :) I just use my eyes 😁😁 Sometimes I'm glad I'm not interested in the techy side 😁😁 Cheers for the explanation xx

  • @Tanren77

    @Tanren77

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@GaryGough thank you for the great job, inspiration and the opportunity to share with the community.

  • @DrRussell

    @DrRussell

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this. Really appreciate quantified results in addition to real world perception comparison.

  • @lisasimpson9343
    @lisasimpson93432 жыл бұрын

    I have a 5D mk4 and the 7Dmk2, I have been looking at the 5Dsr to add to my stable but I'm not in a hurry now after seeing your comparisons between the 5d mk 3 last week but this comparison I will take on board as I progress. I've always been happy using a DSLR and chop and change between thinking should I one day get a mirrorless as I progress, I'm thinking after listening to your commonsense approach, it will be the 5dsr for me later. I really have to watch pennies. Upgrading for me is a part of my learning process, I learnt a lot upgrading from my 20D to the 7Dmk2 then the 5Dmk4. The upgrade to digital from my AE-1 was as you say a bigger move. I can take lots of pics without getting in trouble, film processing costs. And I have had Readly for a while now and love it.

  • @Isume90
    @Isume902 жыл бұрын

    Great channel,author sounds like terrific teacher!

  • @budatamam
    @budatamam Жыл бұрын

    Çok faydalı bir video olmuş. Çok teşekkür ederim.

  • @GaryGough

    @GaryGough

    Жыл бұрын

    You’re welcome 👍

  • @colinrogers5006
    @colinrogers50063 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Gary. I have used both and on a tripod or in the studio there is little if any difference. Different when shooting action or wildlife - 5DSr cannot keep pace. Great pics as always and thank you

  • @GaryGough

    @GaryGough

    3 жыл бұрын

    Cheers again Colin xx

  • @mrlaw711
    @mrlaw711 Жыл бұрын

    Exceptional presentation.

  • @RexEllacott
    @RexEllacott3 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting video Gary, especially as I have come from the commercial world and have downgraded to a series of 5DS & R. Great cameras, but not a high degree of dynamic range, AND the R5 has a few advantages that are obvious as you said. But it all comes down to what you need it for because in 75% of cases it's probably overkill for most of the punters on here. The r5 has a 12% larger pixel area as opposed to the 5DSR, but that only translates to a percentage of situations. As a sports camera its probably ideal for most stringers, and with video, I wouldn't really know as we use Alexas, and Red Epics for that type of work. I enjoy my 5DSR's though as for developing artistic projects they are fantastic. Both above and under the water. Keep the videos coming, its all about learning new things, and we are never too old to pick up new tricks and tips. :)

  • @GaryGough

    @GaryGough

    3 жыл бұрын

    Cheers Rex 👍👍

  • @DavidTpitCabrera
    @DavidTpitCabrera3 жыл бұрын

    Great job as always, you are so damn right. :)

  • @darrenspeak1785
    @darrenspeak17853 жыл бұрын

    Appreciate your time and effort in this video Gary. I suppose the key element to landscape photography rather than the camera bodies themselfs is the lenses used. Far better to get a second hand canon 5dsr with a top quality lens, than get the canon R5 with a cheaper lens, assuming the money people have to spend is limited. There will always be this feeling that newer is always better, but perhaps when it comes to landscape photography that probably isn’t so. The majority of cameras from the last few years are fantastic, which means there are some second hand bargains, especially where bodies are concerned and this video of yours proves that.

  • @GaryGough

    @GaryGough

    3 жыл бұрын

    Cheers Darren 😁😁

  • @johncantrell614
    @johncantrell6142 жыл бұрын

    Your findings make perfect sense. If you still are creating knockout shots with what you have and you do not at the moment need any of the extra bells and things, it only makes sense to keep what you have, and only upgrade when you need to.

  • @keithsykes3908
    @keithsykes39083 жыл бұрын

    If your happy with the camera your shooting with and it gives you what you want, then that's a happy photographer : )

  • @angelathomas2117
    @angelathomas21173 жыл бұрын

    Thats for the great video I own the 5dsr so pleased to hear its still good as I often think of selling it to buy the R5 will stick with the 5dsr :-)

  • @GaryGough

    @GaryGough

    3 жыл бұрын

    Stick with it Angela 👍👍

  • @ianstewart8243

    @ianstewart8243

    3 жыл бұрын

    It will be a long time before the 5DSr is out gunned.

  • @martinagiusstreetphotography
    @martinagiusstreetphotography3 жыл бұрын

    I agree 100% with what you said in the last part of the vlog. I only upgrade when I really need to upgrade. I just bought the Canon R6 because the Canon 5D MKIII was used a lot and I am always waiting for it to stop. Always upgrade if you really need to.

  • @wezjonesphotography3197
    @wezjonesphotography31973 жыл бұрын

    Gary I respect your final decision. I’ll stay with my mk3 for now but always open to options

  • @GaryGough

    @GaryGough

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's a busting camera 👍👍

  • @huwalban
    @huwalban3 жыл бұрын

    A clean and clear comparison. Thank you Gary. I am currently using the Olympus mirrorless system and, for a number of reasons am considering swapping back to a full frame format. Having used a mirrorless system for 6 years I've gotten used to an EVF with live information like a histogram, love features like a live bulb which shows the histogram building - so to move to a mirrored system would feel a bit like a step back in terms of functionality because those features (which I use regularly) would be missing. However the bit of your review that struck me was the financial consideration, i.e. can I justify a £4k outlay, when there is the cheaper alternative of the R6 out there? Food for thought sir, and a big thank you again.

  • @Forthejoyofphotography
    @Forthejoyofphotography3 жыл бұрын

    Sense and commonsense will always shine through. Your video today shined like the Northern Star! For me, If I had a Canon Mirrored camera with my EF lenses and wanted an upgrade, I would search out a good second-hand 5DSR. That is because I would be shooting landscapes, seascapes, and cityscapes with a bit of street photography. Then if I had the money to splash the cash...I maybe would use the money saved between Second-Hand 5DSR & R5 and buy or upgrade a lens or two. Good lenses are for life...cameras are like cars. Anyways my pennyworth for what it's worth.

  • @GaryGough

    @GaryGough

    3 жыл бұрын

    Cheers Brian 👍👍

  • @timcarpenterphotography7484
    @timcarpenterphotography74842 жыл бұрын

    This was as very helpful video Gary. I'm so glad I came upon your channel while looking for information on the Canon 5DSr. I'm currently shooting the 6D Mark 1 having previously shot on the first generation 5D. I shoot with the 24-105 F4, 24-70 F2.8 (mostly for portraits) and 80-200 F2.8. I find that most of my full frame photography is focused on landscapes, city scapes, and some interest in night skies (and northern lights). From the research I've done, it seems that buying a refurbished or used 5DSr would be a good option for an added capability of detail and dynamic range. I'd keep my 6D for low light situations (concert etc. where I need that capability). Posting on questions on the common forums, I get a lot of, "if you can afford it, upgrade to the R5". But, I too am not going to be shooting sports, I've not done any significant video (I can use my Fuji XT-3 for that). Now being May, 2022, would you agree that the 5DSr (which i can get for $1,100) make sense? Again, great video and I look forward to checking out more of the videos on this channel.

  • @GaryGough

    @GaryGough

    2 жыл бұрын

    Trust me, it’ll be the best $1100 you’ve ever spent on a camera 👍👍

  • @sahilbrar7330

    @sahilbrar7330

    Жыл бұрын

    just use your 5dsr at lower resolutions and it will outperform your 6d in low light as well while offering better image quality

  • @AndyCuthbert
    @AndyCuthbert3 жыл бұрын

    Great stuff, Gary. we all get “wowed” by the next best thing, but think I consider us lucky if you are Landscape photographer in that, maybe people like the Megapixels for pixel peeping, but as a whole most modern cameras will work. Most of relatively good Dynamic Range and if not, just bracket. No need for super fast auto focus, most of our “subjects” aren’t even moving. No need to spend the money on the latest and greatest. Again great video and great comparison. 👏🏻👏🏻

  • @GaryGough

    @GaryGough

    3 жыл бұрын

    Very true Cheers Andrew 👍👍

  • @DaveCatley
    @DaveCatley3 жыл бұрын

    Great video Gary, you just explained why I have only just upgraded from a 5D MkII. As a landscape photographer I have been getting great images from my MkII, apparently the focusing wasn't that great but trees don't move that fast 🤣. A lot of my recent work has been created with stitched panoramas so that even eliminated the need for more megapixels. However, I have recently started doing a lot more wildlife photography and while I could still get great shots with the 5D MkII I knew that it was making my life harder than it had to be. I'm now the happy owner of an R5 and loving it. I think it's fair to say I got money's worth from the 5D MkII 😊

  • @GaryGough

    @GaryGough

    3 жыл бұрын

    I loved my 5D2 so much I never sold it :) In your circumstance the R5 is a great choice. I be you're loving it to bits 😁😁 👍👍

  • @DaveCatley

    @DaveCatley

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@GaryGough For wildlife photography it's simply amazing. Being able to preview the shots in the viewfinder just blew my mind, you can zoom in and really see if they are sharp 👍. My 5d MkII is now my second camera that holds my wide angle lens while the R5 has the 150 - 600 mounted, so nice not to have to swap lenses all the time.

  • @meibing4912
    @meibing49123 жыл бұрын

    5DS/R is such a great camera - even after all those years. Hugely underrated when it came out. Best Canon sensor until the release of the 5R. I'm moving to mirrorless myself for the high MPIX action shots, but for landscapes it makes perfect sense to stay with the 5DS/R.

  • @EmpassionProductions

    @EmpassionProductions

    11 ай бұрын

    I still have my 5dsr and I couldn't agree with you more!

  • @RM831BC4E4
    @RM831BC4E43 жыл бұрын

    Look forward to this one :-) 👀

  • @izirins
    @izirins3 жыл бұрын

    Superb reasoning for the (no) upgrade. Another thing to consider in the upgrade is the need for an adapter to continue to use your EF lenses or purchasing the RF lenses which are phenomenally expensive. So that reinforces your business decision of need v cost. (BTW there are a lot of videos out there reinforcing the continued great performance of the EF lenses on the R series, for example AF performance, which for a landscape photographer is a non-consideration)

  • @composedlight6850
    @composedlight68503 жыл бұрын

    Agree ----- there are so many variables in capturing a quality landscape image that if your camera is good enough, then get out and use it and dont worry about new 'better' kit.

  • @joaoborrega4594
    @joaoborrega4594 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you sir. Needs and wants, congratulations excellent exercise.

  • @GaryGough

    @GaryGough

    Жыл бұрын

    Cheers 👍👍

  • @vlt14
    @vlt143 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Gary, great video, I would be interested in your views from a landscape photographers point of view on resolution, ie 50mp vs 20 mp

  • @GaryGough

    @GaryGough

    3 жыл бұрын

    I've been using the 5D3 since its release. The pictures still hang in the studio. Undoubtedly, my pictures are still hanging on customers walls too. I probably didn't need to upgrade in the first instance. Unless you're printing big or need to crop tightly I wouldn't suggest anyone would need to buy a camera that produces such large files.

  • @kghareeb
    @kghareeb3 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely nailed it Gary. Digital cameras (mirrored or mirrorless) are simply data collection devices, where all collected data end up in the a processing system (LR or any other software) to produce images. So think out what works for you away from the hype created by the manufacturers.

  • @GaryGough

    @GaryGough

    3 жыл бұрын

    Cheers Khalid 👍👍

  • @johntyson8932
    @johntyson893211 ай бұрын

    Thank you for this extensive review. I have a very large number of EF lenses and several cameras that use those lenses natively. While I understand I can purchase an adapter to continue to use those lenses on an R5, I hesitate because of my reluctance to use adapters of any sort. Maybe I am wrong in thinking this. I will soon be picking up two secondhand camera bodies (a 5DS and a 5DSR [they were so cheap it was just a spur of the moment decision to get both]) and this video has certainly cemented, in my mind, that I will not regret the decision to purchase them. (And, here in Australia, the R5 would be around 6 times the cost of both the 'new-to-me' bodies combined).

  • @GaryGough

    @GaryGough

    11 ай бұрын

    You won't be dissapointed. 👍👍

  • @andrewcroft2570
    @andrewcroft2570 Жыл бұрын

    I'm a complete novice when it comes to photography, here we go, however, I am pretty frugal. Moreover, I have been subscribing to other professional photographers at the top of their game, one of them being Tim House Studio an absolutely top-notch commercial photographer. I won't put a link in, but search this "Is this all DSLRs Achieved in 23 years?" and it's an extraordinary evaluation of digital cameras. If you're a commercial photographer like Tim he requires you to shoot seriously hi-res images. So in 23 years cameras haven't really come that far. It's just sales garb trying to get people to buy something that they actually really don't need. I'm a complete novice, but I look at things across the board and evaluate everything. I could be wrong but who knows!

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