Which system do you think worked better on this day?

@mariap6271

2 жыл бұрын

Canon is new king 👑

@taquizaffar3908

2 жыл бұрын

Canon

@DavidBeattty

2 жыл бұрын

Sony, clearly.

@taquizaffar3908

2 жыл бұрын

@@DavidBeattty canon locks on to subject better.

@mainmain5303

2 жыл бұрын

@@taquizaffar3908 no it doesn’t

I've said it before - we've reached a point where there's no compelling reason to change to a different brand. Sony, Nikon, Canon all have amazing cameras (and lenses). It's a great time to be a photographer.

@13_cmi

2 жыл бұрын

I’m thinking about going to canon. It seems better having an older dslr for what I’m doing.

@honeybadger1656

2 жыл бұрын

@@13_cmi yeah I'm on a 1300d lol but am saving up for a 7d mk ii. Also submitting my photos to try win a new lens 🤣

@Archonsx

2 жыл бұрын

not rly sony still dominates this

@13_cmi

2 жыл бұрын

@@honeybadger1656 yeah apparently the older dslr cameras are easier to take out the ir filter. And they’re cheap

@rvasquez8057

2 жыл бұрын

Yep, pretty soon you won't need a human in the equation at all. Well at least someone will still have to change the battery and card. Oh the horrors of loading film. 😂

We still don’t have a production unit of the Nikon Z9 in our hands which is why that was excluded in this comparison for those wondering.

@trippalhealicks

2 жыл бұрын

@Stephen Eckert Hey, Stephen! :D

@stepheneckert4006

2 жыл бұрын

@@trippalhealicks 👋🏼HEY!

@arunashamal

2 жыл бұрын

Amazing... thank you for the clarification daddy!

@marckyrd17

2 жыл бұрын

nikon z9 is to big

@markusschlevogt

2 жыл бұрын

And don't forget the new Z 400mm f/2.8 which is not out yet :D

Great to see that no matter which ecosystem you've invested so far, both give incredible AF capabilities and you can stay within it. Great comparison.

@lamborghinico

2 жыл бұрын

Sony user here

@frostybe3r

2 жыл бұрын

@@lamborghinico Nobody asked.

@mukmin01

Жыл бұрын

Not when you have invested $15k in nikon. Still cant accept that the Eye AF is still terrible and very far behind

All I learned from this video is that I need a 400mm 2.8 lens

@soloked

2 жыл бұрын

Jeez! Seriously. I will never own one, but really shows what these amazing lenses can do. These bodies will be long gone before they get refreshed.

Man this content is the very meaning of added value of a KZread channel, excellent work man! I’m not even a sport photographer and still was interesting to me…

Fantastic results from both. Question: On the a1 were you using Tracking: Wide focus area mode the most?

Watching this EVF footage makes me appreciate more how incredible and miraculous the combination of the human brain and eye is.

Nothing but love and respect, Jared! Another great review!

@anthonyc1883

2 жыл бұрын

Amen to that!

I gotta say the music wins hands down!

@axelfiraxa

2 жыл бұрын

You get a check mark for this observation!

@jimmi8928

2 жыл бұрын

Checkmate

Wow was waiting for this one! Thanks Jared.

Great video. Given that stickiness was a recurring discussion point and you showed the nicely intuitive Canon menu for controlling this, I would have liked you to have shown us the Sony menu and the settings you chose. Your videos are so much more relevant than those from other photographers. And I agree with you, make the effort to fill the frame. Heavily crop only when you have no choice.

Which one is better? The system you're already using.. Amazing results from both sides.

Great video! I look forward with your experience with the z6 and z7 new firmware updates

Thanks. I am curious to see which direction Sony will take with the A9III after the release of the A1 (Top of the line). I think Sony will probably never go to a full body like the R3, but keep the 24MP, but a new sensor for speed,... Do you think the R3 is in the same category as the A9 series? A comparison like this, probably better? R3 - A9II (A9III later) Z9 - A1

@MuhammadKharismawan

2 жыл бұрын

A9 is still a thousand usd cheaper

@chanjeff4406

2 жыл бұрын

I think A1 has already replaced the a9 series and probably a9iii is not happening

@pgulysse1

2 жыл бұрын

@@chanjeff4406 You are probably right. Unless they want to make it cheaper and keep it 24MP. But as you said, what's the point? A1, even with its big MP count is great, the Z9 as well (as per the reviews to date). Probably Canon was kind of forced to mention the R3 not a flagship after the release of the A1, and now Z9. Great products for professionals who really need and want them, and can afford those for their job(ROI, they are not for everyone). Let's wait and see... thanks.

Interesting! I couldn't tell the difference between stickiness or face acquisition from the footage, but good to know both are fantastic.

Can’t wait for this auto focus upgrade to the R5

Great review Jared. I trust you and Zamani for honest reviews of gear and sports shooting

This is truly a fantastic real world comparison. The coming Dec 2 firmware upgrade for the R5 is supposed bring this focus to the R5. I would love you do another shoot like this using the new firmware in an R5.

@lifesbeautiful3024

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, and it’ll be on the R6 also

@bernieking5408

2 жыл бұрын

Don't get too excited. The R3 can still do something like 3x the AF calculations per second than the R5 and R6. They will be adding vehicle tracking, etc... but it won't make it much faster. I would love my R5 and R3 to perform at similar levels, but that is unlikely.

You’re taking camera reviews to a new level - answering our questions before we come up with them.

What shocked me was I learned that camera profiles for lightroom just came out for the Canon r5 and R6. I had always edited with the standard Adobe color because there weren't profiles and because I figured it was raw anyway. But camera profiles make a huge difference! Not only was it gorgeous but took far less time to edit. Now I understand when people say Canon colors.

@MusaonYT

2 жыл бұрын

You mean Adobe profiles like Adobe Color and Adobe Standard or Camera Matching profiles like Neutral, Faithful, etc.?

Glad to shake your hand in the last Philadelphia Union Game. Respect Jared. Your work is amazing.

On all the R series cameras you can customize which dial changes ISO. Great video btw, I appreciate how much effort you put into these videos..

Which sports photography camera would you recommend? r3, r5, r6, 1DXii, z9, a1 I'm with a Canon camera, so it's also important that the camera works well with an adapter for EF lenses

Great tests many thanks. What was your feeling about both cameras in terms of dynamic range on the RAW files? Did one seem any better than the other? Are they both at the top of the camera world or do you feel they are somehow lacking in dynamic range. Thanks!

Excellent review Jared, you’re at your best with these! Now if my Z9 would turn up, I’d be even happier!!

I'll be really curious to see something like this with the higher megapixel R5 after the Autofocus Update!

@wildcat1065

2 жыл бұрын

Me too!

Have you ever considered sharing a pdf of all the settings for the cameras you compare? I would especially be interested in the Canon R settings

Thank you Jared another fine video... would love to see a video of the R3 on wildlife especially birds inflight... regards Martin

Casually testing out $40k in a few pieces of gear...

Jared…..you’re killing it. Keep up the good work.

Good compare and shows how close they are, i think what we are seeing is that the canon has about a year more of training (no pun intended) we know they for example trained the detection for helmets while the sony A1 was not (yet?). Both the canon R3 and nikon Z9 are trained on more subjects and use-cases as the sony. As a sony A1 user think sony got a little slow in updating their eye-af and tracking since the other 2 where well basicly 2+ years ago. We notice that in the quick adding of bird detect mode on the sony that seems a little rushed. Now the good news is that this is all software base and after about a year we can expect sony to react with a software update to also add some of these more wide detection modes (like helmets) and maybe even a 'unified' focus system like the nikon has. One thing that will for sure help the A1 vs R3 (not Z9) is using the 'crop' dial on that lens where it jumps right into crop mode the reason is that the tracking system works on the image it gets and eyes/birds are detected much faster (and stay) when they are bigger in the image. Hope next test we see a compare of what you guys call soccer since i think they will match up better. But again as a sony A1 owner i fully see and feel both the R3 and Z9 are better trained for subject detection then the A1 at this point... Your move sony in the area of machine learning and showing what the new cpu's inside still have left and what the software developers have been able to optimize over the last year to give more of the cpu cycles back to that part of the camera. Lastly i noticed the A1 seems to remember the last subject somehow between bursts so say you zoom in on a bird and it gets the eye and you move away from it stop shooting and go back to it it finds the eye quicker not tested this fully but this might be helpful at times not 100% sure how it works yet but clearly it seems to remember 1 or 2 subjets back. Now lets see once the R3 and Z9 are fully shipping if sony announced the A1's first software update and if the area of subject detection gets tuned.

I wonder what it would do to AF performance if you shot the A1 in DX mode. 21mp vs 24 but less than half the data to process for the A1. Would that make any difference at all?

Hi, How did you do with the sony to record EVF with the settings visible knowing that when settings are activated you can’t look in the EVF anymore, For sport shooting it’s not complicated to have to look in an external monitor? What was your config?

Hi Jared, I noticed that your shutter speed was at 1/1600 while your ISO was 500 (3:08) where you hoping to get a very still image? And if yes, why would you suggest doing this besides a lower shutter speed in a situation like this?

@NickzAndMikz

2 жыл бұрын

He’s trying to shoot as wide open as he can to test the focus, so he needs a high shutter and iso. Plus he mentioned the weather was variable which is why he probably wasn’t at a lower iso

@ManyWaysFilms

2 жыл бұрын

@@NickzAndMikz that makes total sense, thank you!

@NickzAndMikz

2 жыл бұрын

@@ManyWaysFilms 15:20

@bluecheese20401

2 жыл бұрын

@@jimmyqballs why do u say u have to be careful with the A1? I use an a7riv and find it have to shoot faster than I did on the a7iii.

@mbismbismb

2 жыл бұрын

I shoot basketball game last night with my m6ii with 1/1000s iso 3200 and aperture 1.8

Hi Jared, may I ask the reason why you didn't take into consideration of the Eye Control AF System?

The best way to configure Canon wheels is aperture on finger, shutter speed on top and iso on back. This is easy to configure in menus.

@dantecooper646

2 жыл бұрын

And now exposure compensation on the lens!!!!

@scb2scb2

2 жыл бұрын

Some with the sony A1, not sure why jared doesn't just state you can set most of the dials on most of them i use the top dial for iso on the A1 for example. The A1 has more dials them the others now so you have a little more to play with.

@JordanCS13

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, that's how I have my R5 and R6 set up for Manual, and in Aperture priority, I have aperture on front, exposure compensation on back top, and ISO on the rear dial. I was really surprised to hear Jared talk about it as if that was a set parameter on the cameras - Canon has always allowed customization of the dials (Sony does as well).

I got real excited to see you were at the University of Houston, shooting and now watching the the video of that day. Go Coogs... Great job!!!

Interesting question my A6500& a7iii don't connect to my M1 Mbp or windows 10 laptop to update the software I purchased them used

Would you give a little background on why you are not using Eye AF on the R3? I thought that it was maybe because of the helmets, but I noticed that you didn't use Eye AF with the soccer players either in the video where you provided the RAWs. Thanks.

I recently got into photographing basketball games and I love using Skittles on on my images. Thank you so much Jared!

Jared, I keep seeing the NFC icon pop up on the Sony, any idea what's up with that?

Modern cameras and lenses are fantastic. I love using my R5 for portraits but I just bought a second 1Dx for football for almost nothing. Ergonomics and reliability are as important as autofocus.

@MusaonYT

2 жыл бұрын

So you're saying you like using the 1Dx better than the R5 for sports?

@southerncharity7928

2 жыл бұрын

@@MusaonYT lol

@lovesushma48

2 жыл бұрын

And jared was shooting 10 year old canon lens 😁

@nigelatkinson2939

2 жыл бұрын

@@MusaonYT Nope. I’m saying that I prefer using a 1Dx for football (soccer). It helps to have two identical bodies, the smaller file size is fine, and I bought it for $770 including an extra battery (it’s in much better condition than mine).

is the 3rd white number on the bottom of the sony evf the exposure compensation? on the canon, i noticed the the iso number was seperated from the shutter speed and iso. ui and font are very different. sony ui is too busy but can be customized. which is better?

How does the Sony keep switching between the full screen and spot focus mode?

Does this camera and other Canon mirroless let you do AF eye tracking without holding down shutter button? Thanks

Hi Jared, did you use the eye-Tracking? Can you recommend it? Greetinds from Austria, Peter

@paulbusby2013

2 жыл бұрын

From what's been said from several sources, Canon will be tweaking the Eye Control during a good few f/w updates! I suspect many will try it initially then not use it - it's not the headline feature of the R3 - it's AF selection sounds good without it. The AF tracking on the R3, A1 & Z9 are all pretty damn good. How each handle bird's eye reflections on water will be interesting but the difference in distance therefore focus will probably be insignificant anyway.

You can remap the button config on your camera to make the sony and canon the same!

what setting show me how much I'm zoomed in on in the EVF? I'd love to know that.

This was a kick ass video!! I’ve have been using the Sony’s for a while… I went back to using my Canon and what a difference of feel in my hands…

Great job Jared! Hope that Canon will put 20-30 megapixels more in his R1 and it would be perfect.

I shoot Canon DSLRs so I was hoping for good news from the R3. However, my personal preference aside, I enjoy the competition among the big 3 (Canon, Nikon, & Sony). I, too, thought the Canon was better with autofocus performance, but I was concerned that my personal bias was clouding my thoughts. It was nice to see that Jared's words matched my thoughts about autofocus performance. I understand why the A1 is such a difficult camera to "dethrone". It's wonderful. So is the R3. Very good video, very helpful comparison even for a hobbyist such as myself.

I personally like the Canon having the shutter indicator flicker-thingy (you know what I mean, the frame that lets you know you're taking photos) on the edge of the viewfinder and not disturbing my view. I agree that it'd be kinda cool to have a buffer-bar like the sony or something similar tho. I think if I could choose, I'd want a little colored dot in a corner blinking when I take photos. Little to no distraction, yet very eye-catching and clear.

Great video Jared. One thing that confuses me relates to the no black out EVF experience - I noticed some jerkiness and skipping on both Canon and Sony when you were taking shots. Can you comment on the no-black-out experience on both cameras. Any comparison to Nikon Z9 hands on?

@VIDEOVISTAVIEW2020

2 жыл бұрын

it would be interesting to see side by side comparison of the Z9 and R3

Sony A1 is sitting on BH, Adorama, and other major retailer shelves...seriously doubt the same will hold true for the R3 and Z9. Also, if you add Sony's grip and two slow CF-A 160 cards, the price is closer to $8K.

@Yupthereitism

Жыл бұрын

The r3 is garbage. The Nikon will be forever sold out

How would the R5 compare to those two? Just being curious…

@Jared Polin; do you have a video or explanation about how presets work with different camera brands since each brand has a different starting point in the RAW file? I’ve never used presets and I’m still new to Lightroom and photoshop. I’ve been using Affinity photo for the iPad (limited use) and doing every photo individually but I’m also not a professional and only take family photos for myself and a few friends. I have a trial of Lightroom and photoshop which I’m enjoying and considering subscribing for a year to see if it can hopefully speed up the editing process for me. Any input would be appreciated! 🇨🇦

At that price point it's like a top 10 tennis player testing out Wilson racquets vs Head vs Babolat. Some players will prefer Head while others will prefer Wilson (and some secretly don't really care about name brand because most have their own custom specifications) but at the end of the day, the reason theyre a top 10 tennis player isn't because of their racquet, it's because of their skill.

is there any option to produce Sigma lens for Canon RF ...???

Did you ever use the eye focus (tracking of the photographers eye) of the R3?

@ImperialEagle1

2 жыл бұрын

I didn’t see this mentioned. I would also like to know.

I like that I can look through my images on A1 and it shows where the focus point hit, I wish this would carry to Lightroom

on the Sony, what did you have the 'sticky' set to?

Reviewing the EVF footage is like watching a painter paint instead of looking at the final painting. The only reason to do it is to appreciate the work of the painter/photographer. What really matters is that the final image is in focus. The box on the eye doesn't actually matter, as long as the camera is actually tracking the subject and is staying in focus. Thanks for the view of the EVF though, it's amazing to watch!

@MusaonYT

2 жыл бұрын

The position of the box matters for your peace of mind. You don't want the box appearing on someone's chin when you're trying to focus on the eye, even if the eye comes out sharp after taking the photo.

@shaolin95

2 жыл бұрын

@@MusaonYT The problem is when the opposite happens..when you get the box but yet the eye is NOT in focus

@MusaonYT

2 жыл бұрын

@@shaolin95 Now that’s a crime

@3akoscielski

2 жыл бұрын

@@MusaonYT I fully understand, I would love it to be glued to the eye, as long as it isn't taking away any processing power from the actual eye tracking. I'm just pointing out that it's an over lay and not the actual focus tracking. Still important, but the eye being in focus is more important than the overlay staying on the eye. If the overlay just tracks the eye but the camera can't actually stay in focus, then it's useless.

@nubscrub

2 жыл бұрын

Aaron is totally right, how many times during fast paced action the box may not be perfectly centered on the head or eye, but lo and behold, load up the images and they're all tack sharp on the subject's eye or head.

Both impressive cameras! I was a bit surprised to see the Canon lose the cheerleader at 3:12, or so. It seemed to lose the subject before they even left the frame, and take a couple seconds to lock on again once they came back in.

Jared, subjects moving fast towards you, Sony has this amazing 4D technology added to the AF system. Can the R3 keep up?

Nice video dude !!! Chapters on the video would have been pretty cool.

Both cameras are absolutely amazing in terms of autofocus, very happy that Canon is bringing the autofocus updates on the R5 and R6 too! Just one thing I noticed is that the Sony viewfinder is veeeeery cluttered, but I assume you can change the information you see in the settings? Anyways, great comparison

@GiacomoZonco

2 жыл бұрын

@Epic Story the stabilization has been great on my R6 with any normal lens, it is true that there is quite a bit of wobble on the 15-35 on the wide end, I’ll give you that! (Don’t take it too personal, it’s all good criticism for cameras to get better, I still think the Sony is great and was one step away from switching :) )

@nordic5490

2 жыл бұрын

The eye tracking focus on my R5 in video mode knocks the A1 out of the park. The A1 af just doesnt track the animals eye for video.

@JerryWoo96

2 жыл бұрын

There is a setting in the sony menu to change whether to show the information on the screen. Maybe Jared just didnt bother.

@JohnDrummondPhoto

2 жыл бұрын

@Epic Story the longer and heavier the lens, the more evident camera shake will be. I've used my R5 and RF 100-500 handheld for birds in flight with no problem. The R3 and the 400 F/2.8 are a lot to handhold even with IBIS.

@GiacomoZonco

2 жыл бұрын

@@JerryWoo96 i assumed that was the case! Or maybe he just likes seeing all the information in the viewfinder

I own an original A9 and its cool to see other camera brands out AF-ing the Sonys finally. Congrats.

Curious as to what publication you used for your application to the team for media credentials ?

@froknowsphoto

2 жыл бұрын

Myself.

Sony shooter here. Still think Canon's image colors are much better. Whenever I open my Sony ARW files in Lightroom, the colors look terrible and the picture requires a lot of editing.

I think you can assign other functions to any dial, it is not fixed. At least for R5 and R6 you can.

As on sony canon wheels can have the settings for eposure you want, on my r6 it does the same as my sony, back wheel iso top back speed and front aperture! it is in the custom menus

Thanks Fro! I've been waiting for this review since you and Zamani Feelings posted your teasers.

Hey Jared, looking forward to seeing your comparison with the Nikon Z9. You should also mention the price on these cameras.

Jared, I got your presets and I am loving them! So much fun! I'm using them with my new Sony a6600, shooting raw.

can‘t wait for the update in December 2

Great vid as always, Jared. :) Loving the competition and quality. Canon users should be grateful for Sony pioneering the auto focus game, and Sony users should be grateful to Canon for bringing up their A game and challenging Sony to do better. The photographer wins in the end.

@Herkulez1981

2 жыл бұрын

And Everyone should be grateful to Epson for bringing the first mirrorless camera with interchangeble lenses

Good review. Thanks. It's definately s good time to be a sports shooter these days. Looks like there is not much more that can be done with af. Maybe the higher mp cameras need to get a slight speed boost to keep up with the 24mp file transfer so more time is available for af. I wonder what the next big feature will be. Possibly 16 bit raw for lower noise, bit that will require faster cards. It will be interesting to see where the tech takes us to

You can change the dial function in settings, for Canon

Christmas in November!! thanks!!

Thank you. Another great video. Was the AF sensitivity set on Sony A1 to 5 or 1?

This may sound like a dumb question, but is the auto focus something Sony can improve through a firmware update?

@simonp8088

2 жыл бұрын

Not a stupid question. But only Sony really knows the answer. Whether this af algorithm is hardware or software limited.

How is it in Canon the focus is green? You didn't shoot on servo mode, or is it the way that Ninja shows it?

@shaungibbs7400

2 жыл бұрын

I think he changed the R3 at some point to servo mode which then displayed the focus box in purple as it should be.

I'm a Canon shooter, but the cameras now are just terrific. It comes down to ergonomics for me and Canon is the clear winner...yes, subjective. Actually, from an in hand point of view, The Z9 looks like the winner to me. I do like the big ole' 'brick' look and feel. Nice work, Jared!

I'm surprised no mention of the new eye focus control was mentioned.

because the update for the R5 im goin to purchase one

@14:00 amazing example of the AF

Can you up the limit on your give away so if I get stuck by lightning and win I can get the a1 or lense

@jared When are u posting the raw files

Amazing what autofocus has come to! Can you make a video on how you did manage the (old school, now)DSLR autofocus? I am sure I am not the only one still running a good ol' eos5d mk3. I just can't afford these mirorless cameras. And I prefer having a battery that holds up to over 2000 photos on a charge as a bonus :D. Also, you should use 60 fps capture on these evf captures. 30 fps is like, too slow for this action.

@alivia4907

2 жыл бұрын

I have the r6 and I have gotten over 2,000 images on a single battery very easily. I shot a bunch of small 4k video clips that day as well. I was shooting a high school football game and I was using one of the knock off batteries from Amazon. It actually and it really surprised me.

@CrisURace

2 жыл бұрын

@@alivia4907 that's nice, but the money factor is important for me as I come from a country that has minimum monthly wage of 250 euro :) I always bought second hand dslr's..... I'm a semi pro and I don't do weddings and baptisms . 😂

@JohnDrummondPhoto

2 жыл бұрын

The Atomos recorder is capturing the actual EVF view in stills mode. Jared was not shooting video. 30 fps is as fast as any of these pro FF mirrorless bodies shoot, and Jared shot the Sony at 20 FPS to get uncompressed RAW files. You saw what you'd actually see if you were shooting either camera. Did you notice that both cameras had no blackout during their exposure bursts? That's something that no DSLR can do. I say this as a former 5DM4 owner who is now smitten with the R5 and R6. I agree with Jared that it took time to recognize that the camera is actually firing with electronic shutter, with no noise and no blackout.

@alivia4907

2 жыл бұрын

@@CrisURace I understand. Once the canon r1 comes out, people are going to start selling their used canon r5/r6 cameras to get that. Just be patient and eventually you'll be able to grab a mirrorless.

@CrisURace

2 жыл бұрын

I want to se the evf at 60 fps, Ike you see it in reality. It actually goes up to 120 fps.

when will you make a dedicated video to canon's new eye control autofocus?

@froknowsphoto

2 жыл бұрын

I won’t. We can’t show it to you because the eye needs to be in the viewfinder. But I haven’t used it yet in all my shoots.

@BilalMarriFX

2 жыл бұрын

@@froknowsphoto well hopefully you might someday. We would like know your opinion about its usability and reliability in the long run.

Both seem pretty dope.

so much activities is there whom do u focusing it is very difficult to say u hv to tell please

Could the 1DXiii did as well as the R3?

Nice review. I look forward to your experiences with the Z9.

Jared, come out with the Z9 comparison already, waiting on your opinion before I buy, seriously!

Why not comparing R3 vs A9 ii ? Both have simillar megapixel

If you can get in, go to an Eagles game sometime in Sept. Maybe get a press box???

Since Canon says the 1Dxiii is their flagship you should include it in the A1 vs Z9 vs R3 review

I'm excited to get my hands on an R6, finally. And I see the latest firmware updates to give it motorsports tracking as well. Good stuff...