Canon EOS M RAW vs EOS M50 4K VIDEO Comparison: CLOSE CALL!

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All the footage were graded in Davinci Resolve and placed side-by-side so I could get them to look close as possible. The M50 4K shocked me, it's quite good in terms of colour. It does look more compressed and the highlights/latitude are a little poorer than the M with Magic Lantern RAW. I do prefer the EOS M RAW more, but for the quick stuff/KZread, the M50 is absolutely no slouch. I'm also expecting KZread Compression to make the comparison more difficult. The EOS M is slightly more detailed too with ML RAW 2.5K.
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  • @bowen_du
    @bowen_du2 жыл бұрын

    This dude is a legend. When people are fighting over R5 vs A7Siii, he is rocking his EOS M and getting stunning results. I am completely blown away.

  • @ZeekEOSZ

    @ZeekEOSZ

    2 жыл бұрын

    😎🙌 Been super busy, but hope to play more with these cameras, even the M50.

  • @rocheuro

    @rocheuro

    2 жыл бұрын

    same thoughts here.. ok 7sIII might be amasing but this... for 1/20 of the price is just another level. quality not much worse than S7III to be completely honest

  • @joseyang5098

    @joseyang5098

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@rocheuro : and i just went to buy a second-handed EOS M after watching some of his videos.....

  • @LAOBASS

    @LAOBASS

    2 жыл бұрын

    check my videos about 1 year ago on canon t2i (12 year old camera) the last 6 months were from apple iphone 13 pro max

  • @rjakiel73

    @rjakiel73

    Жыл бұрын

    Years ago when Zeke started posting about the EOS M I went and got one from EBay for $88. I already had a M50 so lenses and adapters galore for FD, EF/EF-S, vintage m42, etc… needless to say I LOVE the EOS M for video. All in over the years I think I am maybe $500 deep with accessories, cage, monitor, mic, etc… and it just continues to impress especially now with the new ML build.

  • @eti1687
    @eti16873 жыл бұрын

    this video is simply showing how amazing the original EOS M is, I thought it matched the m50 in most cases but looked more cinematic in others. Even the extra quality of life features of the m50 don't make the huge step up in price worth while in my opinion. It's crazy to think that the EOS M will turn 10 next year and yet no budget cinema camera can match it!

  • @ZeekEOSZ

    @ZeekEOSZ

    3 жыл бұрын

    True! The M50 is lacking dynamic range and a LOG Profile at least. The M with ML Raw has the upper hand here. It's still swimming after all these years haha, hard to hate on it. 🤘🍻🎥🔥

  • @rocheuro

    @rocheuro

    2 жыл бұрын

    and also quite interesing in each one clip in Zeek's comparison looks actually more detailed on EOS M compared to M50 which is a bit strange - maybe youtube compression compressing M50 footage second time ? EOS M - looks just more detailed despite lower resolution. - this is realy impressive., Also color seems to bit a bit richer and a bit more accurate. Althou M50 is also very good and do not clip to white as much as EOS M. (noticed) , zeek another great video for the community. amasing work mate! youre EOSKing ;)

  • @orestes1984

    @orestes1984

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm seeing pretty much with Magic Lantern firmware that the original EOS M is better than the M50 in most instances. It just goes to show you how much Canon was kneecapping its sensors back in the day.

  • @dablet

    @dablet

    8 ай бұрын

    really make you wonder what else modern cams like the R8 can do if we can load custom firmware!

  • @tristan6509

    @tristan6509

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@@rocheurothe eos m50 can only record compressed MP4s which is why it looks less detsiles A stock eos M looks worse than the M50, but magic lantern really helps in eliminating the compression

  • @UnauthorizedCreations
    @UnauthorizedCreations Жыл бұрын

    amazing stuff. I have a Canon m50 mark II and I love it, but after watching Zeek I have purchased two Canon EOS M's to add to my filming set up to make cooking content. I'm so glad I discovered this channel because the Canon Eos M cameras are absolutely amazing and I even got a compliment the other day about the picture quality of my cooking shots.

  • @jimmackayvlog
    @jimmackayvlog Жыл бұрын

    I'm glad I found this channel. Your content makes me want to work on my video skills.

  • @TonyXOriginalz
    @TonyXOriginalz Жыл бұрын

    Great video! Thank you for taking the time to make it? The EOS M has certainly surprised me in a good way.

  • @tonyunderwoodmusic1607
    @tonyunderwoodmusic16072 жыл бұрын

    Really appreciate your videos, I am new to the magic lantern angle. Am looking now to go down the rabbit hole and try some raw shooting, and this is a great comparison. You shoot beautiful videos ! Thanks for the knowledge Zeek!

  • @ZeekEOSZ

    @ZeekEOSZ

    2 жыл бұрын

    No problem at all! Even for stills, it's an amazing pocket camera 😎👌💯

  • @stephanematis
    @stephanematis3 жыл бұрын

    The M50 has many end-user improvements, done right by the looks of things. But for my needs, the M @ 2.5K is pretty close to perfect. Thanks for putting in the 2.8K shots, that's a mode I've not yet used.

  • @ZeekEOSZ

    @ZeekEOSZ

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah the M with 2.5K RAW is sufficient for most cinematic work. I've even used it with success in low light. Good stuff! 👌🎥🔥

  • @andisantoso4155

    @andisantoso4155

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ZeekEOSZ the m50 allready to install Canon Cinestyle ? maybe it will better to reach more dynamic range. How do you do to match the color from 2 camera ?

  • @ZeekEOSZ

    @ZeekEOSZ

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@andisantoso4155 I use Cinestyle always on the M50. I out them both in Davinci Resolve and they look already very similar. Just a matter of matching white balance and tint.

  • @Skunk-420
    @Skunk-4203 жыл бұрын

    I have both these cameras (I got my EOS M today from Ebay.) Looking forward to trying Magic Lantern. Your channel is a great resource.

  • @ZeekEOSZ

    @ZeekEOSZ

    3 жыл бұрын

    Congrats! Love this cam, even for pure photography 🎥🔥

  • @switch-_-blade951

    @switch-_-blade951

    Жыл бұрын

    How is Magic Lantern working on the M50?

  • @bern047
    @bern0473 жыл бұрын

    Great video comparison Zeek, I love my EOS M but I also own the M50 great for stills and with these comparisons great for video as well it seems, can't wait for the work in progress to open up the M50, it will be awesome

  • @ZeekEOSZ

    @ZeekEOSZ

    3 жыл бұрын

    ML on the M50 would be superb! 🔥

  • @balisbest
    @balisbest3 жыл бұрын

    Great video Zeek! I was waiting for this one but it didn't take away my doubts of getting an Eos M the 60 fps on the M50 is just a must for me! Keep them vids coming!

  • @ZeekEOSZ

    @ZeekEOSZ

    3 жыл бұрын

    Cheers! 👍🎥🔥

  • @cobramalibuunlimited2897
    @cobramalibuunlimited28973 жыл бұрын

    The EOS M has more heart.

  • @SourceAwareness

    @SourceAwareness

    3 жыл бұрын

    With all the extra love, energy and attention put into expanding the EOS M's capabilities further via Magic Lantern, that's true, in that sense. But as for personal taste, what has "more heart" is totally up to each individual, of course.

  • @1960ceramic
    @1960ceramic2 жыл бұрын

    A great comparison, Zeek. I keep thinking of going mirrorless, but I am so happy with my old 5D MK II and Magic Lantern raw video that I will not upgrade for video until my old body croaks! LOL! Thanks for this comparison.

  • @ZeekEOSZ

    @ZeekEOSZ

    2 жыл бұрын

    Great to hear! I plan to do another video with my 5DII love it :)

  • @cammorton2384
    @cammorton23842 жыл бұрын

    hey Zeek, just found your channel, looking foward to getting into your content, squeezig the most out of mid range canon's is what I'm all about!

  • @ZeekEOSZ

    @ZeekEOSZ

    2 жыл бұрын

    Awesome! Just recovering from surgery ATM, so can't walk about too much just yet. But I plan on doing more vids with the M50 and I've just got my hands on the R6.

  • @SourceAwareness
    @SourceAwareness3 жыл бұрын

    👍🏾👍🏾 Fantastic Comparison, Zeek, brother!! I was so close to buying a used M50 a few times earlier this year, but opted for other cameras and gear. I still have my heart set on purchasing an M50 someday, though, to have fun with shooting some short films with. Best Wishes to you and your family, my friend. 💗

  • @ZeekEOSZ

    @ZeekEOSZ

    3 жыл бұрын

    Cheers man 😉🙌 I'd keep the cash though haha, new Canon Aps-c Rumours, who knows what's coming. Probs Canon C50 or something else, hopefully a budget option that takes on from the M50. 🎥🔥

  • @SourceAwareness

    @SourceAwareness

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ZeekEOSZ 😅 Hehe, appreciated. I'll check it out, brother. 👍🏾

  • @leopoldlajeunesse5666
    @leopoldlajeunesse56663 жыл бұрын

    Good job, love the cinematic look of the M, and the autofocus on the M50, very interesting comparison, for the test of the dynamic range , using dual iso in 2.5K perharps should be better ?

  • @ZeekEOSZ

    @ZeekEOSZ

    3 жыл бұрын

    Well dual ISO is still like beta, it needs more development. It has it's flaws. But in general EOS RAW has more dynamic range than the M50 in video.

  • @PaulKepnerProductions
    @PaulKepnerProductions3 жыл бұрын

    Excellent comparison video! It just shows that resolution doesnt matter as much as the image quality and bit rate does. I really wish you had a og BMPCC. It would be really interesting to see how the 10 bit and 12bit RAW compare on the BMPCC and the EOS-M.

  • @ZeekEOSZ

    @ZeekEOSZ

    3 жыл бұрын

    Cheers Paul! The OG BMPCC is still nice and a fantastic camera for sure. They don't come cheap where I am, at least close to $1000.

  • @PaulKepnerProductions

    @PaulKepnerProductions

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ZeekEOSZ oh wow! $1000 for the BMPCC is quite pricey! I would skip it also.

  • @MichaelDragnea
    @MichaelDragnea Жыл бұрын

    Hey Zeek, i love your coverage on these cameras an the magic lantern software. Its comprehensive an valuable information. Believe it or not, I shoot exclusively on Alexa for my feature and corporate shoots, but am really attracted to the micro form factor something like this would provide. I'm looking at building an eos rig but i was wondering if you have or could make a comparison video between the Eos M and the 5D Mii. Specifically as it applies to my type of work, i'm trying to figure out which of the two i should go for, an what would be valuable to see is a side by side test of an EOS M with that nifty speedbooster and those canon FD lenses Vs. the full frame sensor of the 5d Mii with the same lenses. I want to lean towards the EOS M because of its size, but i'd rather invest in the better image quality just as i'd be using this as a C cam to match up with my 2.8k Alexa footage. Would love your insight on this.

  • @Meddred
    @Meddred2 жыл бұрын

    Excellent comparison , very close indeed and 10-14bit is the upper advantage for post , nice one Zeek 🎬

  • @ZeekEOSZ

    @ZeekEOSZ

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! 👍Yep, comes down to post work ;)

  • @Meddred

    @Meddred

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ZeekEOSZ Pro's

  • @ivangotthold5830
    @ivangotthold5830 Жыл бұрын

    Hi Zeek! Quick question: would it work the AF in the 55-250 with ML when recording 2.5 or 2.8K? Really appreciate your videos!!

  • @juandjo707
    @juandjo7073 жыл бұрын

    Hi Zeek, You said a lot, I might add a difference in file size (raw files are huge and take up a lot of space, and processing time also requires stronger hardware, especially if you're on a PC). Someone who doesn't want to get into color grading M50 is easier to use. On the Canon M, I miss the flip screen a lot. Also, I'm never sure if it will record 6-7 seconds or longer, it's a lottery. The batteries also discharge quickly. What I like is that raw files can be exported as arri alexa log and really resemble that look to some extent.

  • @ZeekEOSZ

    @ZeekEOSZ

    3 жыл бұрын

    With file size they can be quite large on the SD, but once processed in MLV App as H.264/H.265 they can be tiny in comparison. But yes MLV Exports can take a while, which is why I export DNG. The M50 takes great photos too and the footage is still nice for everyday vids. 👍

  • @rocheuro

    @rocheuro

    2 жыл бұрын

    ​@@ZeekEOSZ h265 are so tiny - seriously 10sec of quite static 2.8k footage can be as little as 2.8MB - yes MEGA BYTES file -. seriously. If you dont need to store DNG or MLV or export prores.. just exporting to 265 or 264 is the best way to go. (I noticed that H265 has a bit less tiny detail) but the file sizes are 1/4 of h264. althou I always export at H264 just because I preffer quality. Most people Wont notice ANY! difference thou between those 2 codecs. Althou I wish new version of MLV app has option to choose bitrate when exporting! - what a shame they didnt include that in previous builds!

  • @rocheuro

    @rocheuro

    2 жыл бұрын

    some points there but honestly you have to agree.. post processing and more hours with this camera is something you have to live with - and you got MLVapp and Magic Lantern for free anyways. And when you learn your workflow fast and use templates for your processing you can shorten the import/export times to 1/10 of the first time trial and error ;) Ive been there too.

  • @rektcoder9252
    @rektcoder92522 жыл бұрын

    canon M raw blows socks off so good, dynamic range is insane. m50 4k looks like it has compressed colouring range somehow.

  • @joseyang5098
    @joseyang50982 жыл бұрын

    Wow!! the 2.8K is really a close call!!

  • @bryanbarajasBB
    @bryanbarajasBB3 жыл бұрын

    You could use two SD cards, one for ML, and one for Canon in the EOS. Great video! Did you use green screen? Love the small detail work of zooming in and audio is👌

  • @ZeekEOSZ

    @ZeekEOSZ

    3 жыл бұрын

    No green screen haha 😂 cheers!

  • @MarcusTDM
    @MarcusTDM Жыл бұрын

    Great video, but the example shots were a bit short for you to properly see the differences. Good job i have an Eos M so i know what it’s capable of.

  • @All6usto
    @All6usto6 ай бұрын

    Outstanding

  • @denmarksoul1184
    @denmarksoul11843 жыл бұрын

    Yes! I've been waiting for this video! Zeek please do another video with the M50. Now I will watch and comment again. 😂

  • @ZeekEOSZ

    @ZeekEOSZ

    3 жыл бұрын

    I was left surprised haha! 😎👌

  • @muddywatersautodetailingpr9866

    @muddywatersautodetailingpr9866

    3 жыл бұрын

    Right. I have an M50 also and I really like the comparison between the two.

  • @ZeekEOSZ

    @ZeekEOSZ

    3 жыл бұрын

    They can match very easily. Especially when EOS M RAW is exported as DNG.

  • @muddywatersautodetailingpr9866

    @muddywatersautodetailingpr9866

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ZeekEOSZ so if I export eos M as dng, what would be a good process for grading eos M and m50 footage together? The M50 has log profiles installed

  • @ZeekEOSZ

    @ZeekEOSZ

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@muddywatersautodetailingpr9866 I used Cinestyle on the M50. When I dropped the clips in DaVinci Resolve they looked already very similar, some were hard to tell apart. You can check my Facebook to see the M50 and EOS M DaVinci Clips together.

  • @Flix_Film
    @Flix_Film2 жыл бұрын

    Hey Zeek, short question. I got an EOS M and a autofocus lense from Canon. The Autofocus works great at Pictures, but there is no chaning Autofocus if I shot a video right? Its a bumper right now because I need to ajust the focus all the time while shooting a video.

  • @daydreamer3406
    @daydreamer34062 жыл бұрын

    Wow I found my new favorite KZread channel haha 🙌 It would be great if you could do a video on your color grading workflow in Davinci for how you got the m50 footage to look like the EOS M. Whenever I try to color grade from a flat picture profile it looks terrible loll

  • @ZeekEOSZ

    @ZeekEOSZ

    2 жыл бұрын

    I just chuck the clips onto the timeline with the DaVinci settings mentioned here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/mpZny6dulM2npJM.html I plan on doing another video with the M50.

  • @daydreamer3406

    @daydreamer3406

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ZeekEOSZ Cool thanks for linking that video. Looking forward to the upcoming one (:

  • @12Jerbs
    @12Jerbs3 жыл бұрын

    Another great video! Is it possible to use the M with Magic Lantern and record directly to PC, rather than an SD?

  • @ZeekEOSZ

    @ZeekEOSZ

    3 жыл бұрын

    Only to SD with the EOS M.

  • @Roby0593
    @Roby0593 Жыл бұрын

    Mlv is free to download ? Can be used to do colour grading for any movie ?

  • @zakaroonetwork777
    @zakaroonetwork7773 ай бұрын

    Would it be OK to Put a C-Mount lens on a C-mount to EF adapter app-on an EF to EFM speed booster?

  • @calmabeats
    @calmabeats2 жыл бұрын

    Amazing videos Zeek ! thanks you for this. You prefer M50 or Sony ZV 1 ?

  • @ZeekEOSZ

    @ZeekEOSZ

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'd prefer ZV1 tbh. It has log profiles.

  • @nooneelseguy
    @nooneelseguyАй бұрын

    I have tried twice to get Magic Lantern to be stable on the EOS M, but it has crashed both times and the recommended settings I have found so far are not really working. I'd love to know what version of the software you are using and what your settings are. Your footage looks great!

  • @xishanali
    @xishanali2 жыл бұрын

    Hi can you do a comparison how eos m holds up against iphone 13 pro max prores 10 bit video?

  • @mikejaputz5570
    @mikejaputz55703 жыл бұрын

    Hi Zeek! First of all, thanks for your work on this channel! Just bought EOS M because of its price (M50 costs too much for me). So, I just wanted to ask about EOS M for vlogging. Few times I saw your examples with your sister sitting opposite the camera. Did you use 5k preset in all those examples? If not, which presets you can recommend for vlogging purposes with continuous record time? (simple 1080 mode has aliasing, I don't think it's a good choice).

  • @ZeekEOSZ

    @ZeekEOSZ

    3 жыл бұрын

    You can use a monitor or a vlogging mirror. I would use 5K FRTP or 1080 mode and enable X3 crop with a wide angle lens like the 11-22mm or 10-18mm. I plan on making a video about this too. 👍

  • @mikejaputz5570

    @mikejaputz5570

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ZeekEOSZ Sounds good. Thanks a lot! But why would u use crop mode with wide angle lense if you can use basic 18mm+ lense without any crop? Or crop is not really necessary (sorry for that kind of questions, i'm really new to this..)

  • @ZeekEOSZ

    @ZeekEOSZ

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@mikejaputz5570 No that's okay. The crop removes aliasing. It's very clean compared to the uncropped 1.6x 1080 mode. All you do is press the "set" button and your in X3 crop modes, press it again and you're out of it. So it's a choice 👍

  • @mediamass1404
    @mediamass14042 жыл бұрын

    i like the overall nature shots of the m but the m50 has it on the closeups, I admit it

  • @superdavey69
    @superdavey69 Жыл бұрын

    is the m2 fully compatible with the G6 Plus G6 Max? On thier site on says M3 up is? Thinking wifi wise?

  • @itchyfeet8799
    @itchyfeet87992 жыл бұрын

    Hi Zeek, I have both the canon eos m and canon eos m2. My question is can I record in MPEG4 in magic lantern and not RAW files? I only have a small size SD card at the moment and it seems to fill out real quick due to the files size of RAW.

  • @ZeekEOSZ

    @ZeekEOSZ

    2 жыл бұрын

    Tap on the screen and select towards the bottom the H.264 preset. It will not record RAW, only 1080p video files.

  • @Wingman115
    @Wingman1153 жыл бұрын

    To me the M50 had a tab better sharper image but the 9 year old EOS held it's own. Great video.

  • @ZeekEOSZ

    @ZeekEOSZ

    3 жыл бұрын

    👌🎥🔥

  • @deluego3603
    @deluego3603 Жыл бұрын

    Loved the halation I could see off the wet rocks, it really gives it a film like quality. I wonder why it doesnt appear in the M50.

  • @ZeekEOSZ

    @ZeekEOSZ

    Жыл бұрын

    The M50 lacks dimension because the video is compressed. The M has more flexibility as it shoots RAW.

  • @LouisLuzuka
    @LouisLuzuka3 жыл бұрын

    I really love the cages

  • @ZeekEOSZ

    @ZeekEOSZ

    3 жыл бұрын

    They're so good!

  • @LouisLuzuka
    @LouisLuzuka3 жыл бұрын

    Zeek if i want to film myself on the field, how do I set focus or manual focus with the 15-45mm or 22mm what setting do I turn on/ off?

  • @ZeekEOSZ

    @ZeekEOSZ

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'd use the Vlog mirror, and disable Servo AF on the Canon Menu with the M otherwise it will hunt. The M50 would be fine only in 1080p with DPAF as 4K doesn't have it. Those lenses I use MF All the time.

  • @LouisLuzuka

    @LouisLuzuka

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ZeekEOSZ okay awesome I got the vlog mirror, favourite tool ever, and ill go disable SERVO AF right now, pretty tempted to get the m50 mark ii but I'm gonna try to stick with my Eos M for now! thanks zeek!

  • @ZeekEOSZ

    @ZeekEOSZ

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@LouisLuzuka 😎👍

  • @thestandardfilmmaker6887
    @thestandardfilmmaker68873 жыл бұрын

    EOS M has far more character to it. I think the M50 is more efficient to use. But the EOS M has that real Arri Alexa vibe to it which I love! Great video Zeek as always!

  • @ZeekEOSZ

    @ZeekEOSZ

    3 жыл бұрын

    Tha Ms for the insight. The M50 does do fine for an 8-Bit Camera, but yeah the M has a Magic touch 🤘🔥

  • @rattusrodney
    @rattusrodney2 жыл бұрын

    between the 6d and M; which would you choose to go with getting 16mm look/RAW (magic lantern supports both)? thanks! love ur vids

  • @ZeekEOSZ

    @ZeekEOSZ

    2 жыл бұрын

    Eos m. It works with C mount lenses and Canon FD etc

  • @bnhmb6523
    @bnhmb65233 жыл бұрын

    Love your videos, Zeek! Quick question, will I be able to use track mode on Ronin-SC using the EOS M?

  • @ZeekEOSZ

    @ZeekEOSZ

    3 жыл бұрын

    I haven't used the Ronin before. The M has no wi-fi/Bluetooth, but if it's only the smartphone & gimbal it should be okay

  • @bnhmb6523

    @bnhmb6523

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ZeekEOSZ Thanks mate! Your work is really good and helpful. Have a good day. :)

  • @ZeekEOSZ

    @ZeekEOSZ

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@bnhmb6523 Cheers 👍

  • @bsdgffishtuna5186
    @bsdgffishtuna51862 жыл бұрын

    any suggestions for a really wide cine lens like cosmicar but wider then 16? i love the look of the vintage cine but would like maybe 10mm or wider...do-able?

  • @ZeekEOSZ

    @ZeekEOSZ

    2 жыл бұрын

    I use the cosmicar 12.5mm. There is also schneider 10mm, zeiss 10mm and angenieux 10mm. There are also 12.5-75mm c mount lenses

  • @justinmichile
    @justinmichile Жыл бұрын

    Where did you Buy EOS m50 camara Cage ?

  • @Markikuunn
    @Markikuunn3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, it looks like I need to find another canon eos M instead of murder my savings account to buy the m50. I was hesitant to buy the c lens, it looks its gonna be a worth it purchase. BTW master Zeek, I'm hoping to see soon your opinion on which full frame canon to use with magic lantern and what would be the benefits.

  • @ZeekEOSZ

    @ZeekEOSZ

    3 жыл бұрын

    Best Full Frame Canon is 5D3. No aliasing in 1080p, and has SD + CF Card Slot.

  • @milanjani
    @milanjani2 жыл бұрын

    I read some articles. And it says EOS M50 at base ISO 100 gives out 13.4 stops of dynamic range. What do you think?

  • @patrickcazer
    @patrickcazer3 жыл бұрын

    Does the EOS M allow you to play back the footage in camera ? I’ve been talking to some people and they say they switched to the OG bmpcc for that exact reason. If so what are the work arounds for it ?

  • @ZeekEOSZ

    @ZeekEOSZ

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes you can playback footage but at a low fps as it goes through the raw frames. You can see it better once the files are imported into MLV App.

  • @patrickcazer

    @patrickcazer

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ZeekEOSZ gotcha ! Thank you

  • @chuckshreve3866
    @chuckshreve38663 жыл бұрын

    What's the viewfinder you use for the EOS M? I didn't see it in the description.

  • @ZeekEOSZ

    @ZeekEOSZ

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's a Viewfinder V6 for the EOS M/3" screens. It's magnetic. You need to stick a frame on the EOS M Screen and then attach the viewfinder.

  • @Utsab_Giri
    @Utsab_Giri9 ай бұрын

    The M50 has Magic Lantern firmware for it too, right?

  • @lerx1980
    @lerx19803 жыл бұрын

    Can you test the low light performance of these cameras? I missed this comparison in your video. :)

  • @ZeekEOSZ

    @ZeekEOSZ

    3 жыл бұрын

    The M50 would win as it's compressed video, raw will need a little denoising in post or some processing. I noticed in the first comparison of the tree scrlene, the M was a bit noisier in the shadows. Thanks to KZread Compression you can't tell as much 😎👍

  • @lerx1980

    @lerx1980

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ZeekEOSZ wouldnt it help to filter the noise out with darks? Because of RAW the M should be superior over the M50 shouldnt it? Its just a guess tho.

  • @JDproAV
    @JDproAV2 жыл бұрын

    ​ @Zeek. Can you share the picture profile settings you used on the m50 and/or the lut you work with on it? thanks.

  • @ZeekEOSZ

    @ZeekEOSZ

    2 жыл бұрын

    I used Cinestyle, just dropped the files into Davinci without using LUTs. I just corrected exposure.

  • @JDproAV

    @JDproAV

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ZeekEOSZ Oh, sounds pretty easy. Thanks

  • @some_man_video
    @some_man_video3 жыл бұрын

    Как всегда красивые кадры!

  • @hmudesign
    @hmudesign2 жыл бұрын

    Hey Zeek, great couple of videos I watched, I just discovered you. I just had a quick look at Magic Lantern's page, I only see the EOS M camera being supported there, but it looks like you are using ML on the EOS M50 with it no problems it seems, is just not fully supported or such? I'm considering getting the EOS M50 cause of the dual pixel focusing and the articulated screen, rather than the EOS M, even though I did like it quite a lot, but very hard to see the screen, I'm getting old and my eye sight is failing me. I had a EOS M a few years ago and was using ML firmware on it with good results, although the latest Canon firmware would render ML un usable, is that still the case or has it been updated to work with the latest Canon EOS M firmware? Thanks for the great videos, I'll keep looking :)

  • @ZeekEOSZ

    @ZeekEOSZ

    2 жыл бұрын

    The M50 has no Magic Lantern Raw. Development hasn't progressed much hence no news. The is magic lantern for the latest Eos m build but it's still a bit sketchy. You're better off with Firmware 2.0.2

  • @hmudesign

    @hmudesign

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the reply. Take care Zesk.

  • @Hardsanj
    @Hardsanj2 жыл бұрын

    I installed magic lantern in my eos m n camera got so slow. Not performing normal. I got the 8gb card. So any solution for that?

  • @ZeekEOSZ

    @ZeekEOSZ

    2 жыл бұрын

    Use SanDisk Extreme PRO 64GB and above

  • @cellphonepcstricksgoogleac6584
    @cellphonepcstricksgoogleac6584 Жыл бұрын

    I love Eos M since 2019 ♥️☺️

  • @PepijnHazelhof
    @PepijnHazelhof Жыл бұрын

    how does the m50 perform with magic lantarn?

  • @RollingCinemar
    @RollingCinemar2 жыл бұрын

    Hi zeek When I shoot raw 2.5k there is no audio I’m I missing a setting or Do I record sound separately?

  • @ZeekEOSZ

    @ZeekEOSZ

    2 жыл бұрын

    Recording should work. Check tab 3 ML Menu down the bottom. Also check your audio is on in Canon Menu.

  • @stephensircar1561
    @stephensircar15613 жыл бұрын

    With Magic Lantern, Optical Flow & Gigapixel AI my everyday choice is EOS M.

  • @ZeekEOSZ

    @ZeekEOSZ

    3 жыл бұрын

    😆👌

  • @DeiviTovar
    @DeiviTovar2 жыл бұрын

    Hi Zeek. I am in doubt whether to buy the m2 that is at a good price, or the m3 that is a little more expensive but has a folding screen that I like. or wait and buy the m50. It will mainly be for video, and I would like the best quality on a low budget, and not if the m50 is worth it because it is 3 times more expensive than the m2 and m3. What do you recommend me? Have a good day

  • @ZeekEOSZ

    @ZeekEOSZ

    2 жыл бұрын

    The M50 is better than the M2/M3. The original EOS M with ML Raw would be my choice.

  • @jean-pierreschall1500
    @jean-pierreschall15003 жыл бұрын

    Very nice comparison, I am impressed how you manage to have the same colour look between the two camera in resolve I presume. I like most the color depth of EOS M that seem reacher in some shot. The sharpness seems to be a little bit better in some shot on the M except on portrait shot shot in the garden at 7 min 06s. In fact after good looking, it seems that the depth of field is a little higher on the M50 giving the face more detail. Thank you for your talent, experimentation and sharing of your experience. This help us a lot to improve hour skills and inspire me. Keep on going and have a good day.

  • @ZeekEOSZ

    @ZeekEOSZ

    3 жыл бұрын

    No problem! Both are nice cameras for price, I do like the M more though for pure cinematography on a budget, but the M50 would be a better KZread/photography/quick video snap choice. 👍

  • @motionfilms4317
    @motionfilms4317 Жыл бұрын

    For m50 4k raw, what is the frame rate we can get?

  • @azim510
    @azim5103 жыл бұрын

    The foutage of yours standing and talking at 30sec looks awsm. Which lens was that..?

  • @ZeekEOSZ

    @ZeekEOSZ

    3 жыл бұрын

    That was with the A7C + Sony FE 28mm F/2 which was the lens used for the whole shoot in Full-Frame & APS-C Modes.

  • @azim510

    @azim510

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ZeekEOSZ Thank you that looks amazing

  • @RandomNick422
    @RandomNick4223 жыл бұрын

    Its interesting if someday magic lantern firmware will be available sooner on canon eos m50.

  • @ZeekEOSZ

    @ZeekEOSZ

    3 жыл бұрын

    It looks to be in progress, especially with the RP/EOS R. 🎥🔥

  • @patrice998
    @patrice9982 жыл бұрын

    Very good vidéo , i m looking for a good and cheap magic lantern camera, the eos M is perfect for me.

  • @ZeekEOSZ

    @ZeekEOSZ

    2 жыл бұрын

    😎👍🎥🔥

  • @RhythmicEye
    @RhythmicEye3 жыл бұрын

    Hey Zeek! Do you know if the 650D/t4i performs as well as the EOS M with ML RAW 2.5k? Seems to have more or less similar architecture w DIGIC 5 processor. Looking for something that matches the EOS M picture quality.

  • @ZeekEOSZ

    @ZeekEOSZ

    3 жыл бұрын

    650D/700D should be fine. They just don't get the adaptability to speedboosters and other lenses. Those cameras should do fine, though I've never seen their footage with 2.5K Raw.

  • @RhythmicEye

    @RhythmicEye

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ZeekEOSZ yeah that’s what I was thinking. I have 2 x EOS M w speed boosters and I’m thinking a 650D or 750D will compliment them beautifully for a 3 camera shoot utilising ML auto restart recording for constant coverage. Plan is to stagger recording start for redundancy and to shoot a set up from 3 seperate angles simultaneously. I have multiple lenses and can rent if need be. Thoughts?

  • @ZeekEOSZ

    @ZeekEOSZ

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@RhythmicEye Yeah that should be fine. Not sure of the recording limits with those cameras in 2.5K, should be similar to the M. The 650D/700D should be a good addition. There's more info on the ML Forum around these cameras 😎👍

  • @RhythmicEye

    @RhythmicEye

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ZeekEOSZ yeah after all these years I finally joined the ML forum. It’s a fantastic resource but overwhelming at first, I’m still in stealth mode as I see the devs get a bit annoyed at people asking repeatedly the same questions. Great collaborative group though. Hopefully I can contribute something of value soon. Thanks for all you do!, greatly appreciated.

  • @ZeekEOSZ

    @ZeekEOSZ

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@RhythmicEye Never be afraid to ask questions haha 😉👌🔥 No problem, good luck!

  • @LouisLuzuka
    @LouisLuzuka3 жыл бұрын

    Can you do a video on how to stack and use filters?

  • @ZeekEOSZ

    @ZeekEOSZ

    3 жыл бұрын

    I use a CPL + Variable ND 2-in-1 Filter. I used a song Fotga 52mm Variable ND in this video though love them for the price.

  • @eheem7806
    @eheem78065 ай бұрын

    I think it depends on the lens that you used for the M.

  • @gokugoku1699
    @gokugoku16993 жыл бұрын

    Hey zeek great video ...i just bought the eos m and I don't know which lens i should buy ...i want to do short films and b rolls and photography 😅 so basically everything but I'm on a tight budget (around $90) thanks ✌️

  • @ZeekEOSZ

    @ZeekEOSZ

    3 жыл бұрын

    Canon EF-m Pancake 22mm, 7Artisans 25mm or Meike 25mm F1.8 are good too, otherwise 15-45/18-55 Kit.

  • @gokugoku1699

    @gokugoku1699

    3 жыл бұрын

    thanks zeek ...take care :D

  • @ZeekEOSZ

    @ZeekEOSZ

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@gokugoku1699 😉👍

  • @SourceAwareness

    @SourceAwareness

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@gokugoku1699 The *7Artisans 25mm* (which, as you may know, becomes a 40mm field of view on the EOS M, because of the 1.6 crop) is one of the best cheap lenses you can buy for the EOS M. You can get it cheap on Wish dot com, although it generally takes longer to arrive than via Amazon or Ebay at a higher price. Except for the 22mm, you can buy any of these cheap lenses used and get them for well under $90 USD. Best Wishes!

  • @gokugoku1699

    @gokugoku1699

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much for the info man😃✌️...all the best

  • @EstherModellaTv
    @EstherModellaTv2 жыл бұрын

    Please reply, the M3 and m50 which one is better?

  • @ZeekEOSZ

    @ZeekEOSZ

    2 жыл бұрын

    M50

  • @IndyVisuals
    @IndyVisuals3 жыл бұрын

    The OG M looked sharper in some parts but overall made me feel better of my M50

  • @shadiwalimapk9389
    @shadiwalimapk93893 жыл бұрын

    Which camera u record this video

  • @ZeekEOSZ

    @ZeekEOSZ

    3 жыл бұрын

    Sony A7C

  • @blagorodproduction
    @blagorodproduction2 жыл бұрын

    Hi Zeek! Is ML available on m50 or only Canon M?

  • @ZeekEOSZ

    @ZeekEOSZ

    2 жыл бұрын

    Only the M unfortunately

  • @lordtanatos84kmkn59
    @lordtanatos84kmkn59 Жыл бұрын

    definitely is the person not the camera taking the image, stunning results with either camera

  • @rendellsilva6138
    @rendellsilva61382 жыл бұрын

    what is the rig you use for your canon m?

  • @ZeekEOSZ

    @ZeekEOSZ

    2 жыл бұрын

    The link should be in the description 👍

  • @krazygyal
    @krazygyal Жыл бұрын

    How long can you shoot continuously in 4K with the EOS M? If it's limited to 2 minutes... it looks good but it's worthless.

  • @harisahmed9095
    @harisahmed90952 жыл бұрын

    Sir iam confuse which one should i buy for magic lantern raw video should i buy canon 700d or Eos M

  • @ZeekEOSZ

    @ZeekEOSZ

    2 жыл бұрын

    Up to you. Flip screen vs speedbooster + more lens options. I personally prefer Eos m.

  • @jetamorsolovideos
    @jetamorsolovideos2 жыл бұрын

    what software do you use editing raw footage from EOS M

  • @ZeekEOSZ

    @ZeekEOSZ

    2 жыл бұрын

    MLV APP

  • @jetamorsolovideos

    @jetamorsolovideos

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ZeekEOSZ Thank you more power to your channel

  • @neverletthemtameyou
    @neverletthemtameyou Жыл бұрын

    How long are you able to shoot RAW on the EOS M before it overheats? And is it possible to grade the files directly in Davinci Resolve rather than the MLV app? Cheers and thanks for sharing.

  • @LouisLuzuka
    @LouisLuzuka2 жыл бұрын

    Zeek have you tried 16mm f1.4 sigma

  • @ZeekEOSZ

    @ZeekEOSZ

    2 жыл бұрын

    No I haven't

  • @MBFeniks
    @MBFeniks2 жыл бұрын

    Does Magic Lantern work with Canon M50?

  • @ZeekEOSZ

    @ZeekEOSZ

    2 жыл бұрын

    unfortunately not

  • @harisahmed9095
    @harisahmed90952 жыл бұрын

    Sir can i record 1080p raw continuously on canon eos m and on 700d

  • @ZeekEOSZ

    @ZeekEOSZ

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes

  • @versionesdelabiblia765
    @versionesdelabiblia765 Жыл бұрын

    Ahora tengo estas dos cámaras!

  • @akarca
    @akarca3 жыл бұрын

    How many eos m you have:)?

  • @ZeekEOSZ

    @ZeekEOSZ

    3 жыл бұрын

    Had 5, now about 4.

  • @stakolachook2581
    @stakolachook25813 жыл бұрын

    Hi, So I just bought an eos m used. Please guide me where to start,total noob here. I wanna shoot at 2.5k raw. Please share the settings and the ml build. This is gonna be my hobby now.

  • @ZeekEOSZ

    @ZeekEOSZ

    3 жыл бұрын

    This is my latest settings video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/q46a0dWmY6zbiqw.html This is a good export/grading tutorial: kzread.info/dash/bejne/mpZny6dulM2npJM.html I have more on the channel too.

  • @SourceAwareness

    @SourceAwareness

    3 жыл бұрын

    Welcome to the EOS M Family, my friend, and best wishes with your exciting new hobby! 👍🏾💗 Looking forward to seeing your videos. Cheers.

  • @stakolachook2581

    @stakolachook2581

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ZeekEOSZ Thanks!

  • @apollo7714
    @apollo77143 жыл бұрын

    Cool!

  • @curbendfilms
    @curbendfilms8 ай бұрын

    that 321 fight intro was 😆

  • @kennethearl9878
    @kennethearl9878 Жыл бұрын

    No magic lantern for M50?

  • @chunkit78
    @chunkit782 жыл бұрын

    Can u show how we can use magic lantern in m50?

  • @ZeekEOSZ

    @ZeekEOSZ

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's not running on the M50, otherwise I'd love to.

  • @marcelomoran6152
    @marcelomoran61522 жыл бұрын

    Good

  • @notthesame3606
    @notthesame36063 жыл бұрын

    I’m still dreaming of Magiclantern on M50. I really like having leverage in grading. But I have to say: you‘ve shown that if you expose your footage correctly with the M50 it can look surprisingly good. Sometimes, for me at least it‘s just not possible to expose 100% correct (hectic shooting, harsh backlight, nighttime, wrong WB etc...) RAW really seems to help me out in this situations.

  • @ZeekEOSZ

    @ZeekEOSZ

    3 жыл бұрын

    Use Cinestyle in the M50 and I mainly expose at 75% IRE.

  • @notthesame3606

    @notthesame3606

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ZeekEOSZ Thanks Zeek. I've read mixed opinions about cinestyle (banding because of narrower histogramm in just 8bit compressed footage something like that...seemed to make some sense) , and unfortunately stayed away. But getting a recommendation from you and seeing your footage: I will definitely give this a shot! Tnx.

  • @ZeekEOSZ

    @ZeekEOSZ

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@notthesame3606 Cinestyle gives you imo the best Color straight out of the camera, minor to no tweaking is necessary. This is my favourite picture profile. There's also lightform C/N I need to test out more. 👍

  • @cubano100pct
    @cubano100pct2 жыл бұрын

    Have you tried magic lantern on the M50?

  • @ZeekEOSZ

    @ZeekEOSZ

    2 жыл бұрын

    There is no ML on M50

  • @mrwoo7884
    @mrwoo78842 жыл бұрын

    Canon EOS M footage wins hands-down every shot. Nice result.

  • @ZeekEOSZ

    @ZeekEOSZ

    2 жыл бұрын

    😎👍

  • @joseyang5098
    @joseyang50982 жыл бұрын

    Do you also use Magic Lantern on your EOS M50 ?

  • @ZeekEOSZ

    @ZeekEOSZ

    2 жыл бұрын

    I can't, not available

  • @enjoyyoursleep1
    @enjoyyoursleep13 жыл бұрын

    using mlv app on windows 10, trying to convert from .mlv, to which ever I like. after export, mlv app says ''export is ready'', but when I go to locate my file, it's not there. and no amount of windows searching finds it, maybe mlv app, doesn't like windows 10??

  • @ZeekEOSZ

    @ZeekEOSZ

    3 жыл бұрын

    When you load MLV App, don't remove that black pop up window otherwise it may cause disruption with the export. See how that goes, if not, then You can communicate this in the ML Forum for MLV APP: www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=20025.msg235904;topicseen#msg235904

  • @enjoyyoursleep1

    @enjoyyoursleep1

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ZeekEOSZ thanks mate will suss it tomorrow. 👍

  • @enjoyyoursleep1

    @enjoyyoursleep1

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks again Zeek, worked fine next time around after downloading an x64 version of mlv app, and also, I notched a whole bunch of files that I assume need to stay in the original dir. and also, the CMD .BIN thing seems to work too! Thanks! keep the video's coming!

  • @aryaprincess2479
    @aryaprincess24799 ай бұрын

    I live for the days they will get magic lantern on later canons, can you imagine what the M50 would be able to do if it had magic lantern as well? If it can do 4K itself as is, imagine what it could do with magic lantern. At some point the Canon R5C for example (the 8K 60fps monster) will get it to and that will be the end of any new camera. If you can get super detail on a 200$ camera because of the pirate firmware, then when it becomes available on later models it will be out of this world.

  • @artem_dukhov
    @artem_dukhov3 жыл бұрын

    Я как раз, только что продал свой eos M, и купил eos M50. Я сделал выбор в пользу удобства пользования. Картинка видео мне больше нравится с eos m, но автофокус, поворотный экран, видео искатель, и прошивка без глюков для меня перевесели и я всё-таки пользуюсь eos m 50.

  • @ZeekEOSZ

    @ZeekEOSZ

    3 жыл бұрын

    Приятно слышать! Ничто не сравнится с камерой, которая делает ту работу, которую вы хотите;)

  • @blagorodproduction

    @blagorodproduction

    2 жыл бұрын

    Здравствуйте, а на М50 есть Magic Lantern или только на eos m?

  • @artem_dukhov

    @artem_dukhov

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@blagorodproduction нет, нету, он по сути и не нужен там.

  • @blagorodproduction

    @blagorodproduction

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@artem_dukhov почему не нужен? М50 же не пишет видео в Рав из коробки

  • @donchedidit
    @donchedidit3 жыл бұрын

    Wait...I thought you could get 48fps in 1080p on the Canon EOS M...

  • @ZeekEOSZ

    @ZeekEOSZ

    3 жыл бұрын

    You can but with loaded pink dropped frames and aliasing and an Anamorphic-like stretched Liveview. Not worth it in my opinion. Don't want to keep hopes up for newbies with high fps tbh.

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