my ktm 200 has something very different to say

Needed to add one thing, the 250 XC is perfect for people who weigh 180 lbs or less. 300 XC for the rest of us at 200+ lbs and yes you will need to re spring it. Speaking from experience here.

@Fmontes

2 жыл бұрын

Oooookayyyy, Marcus.

@last-life

3 күн бұрын

Thanks buddy I'm doing deep dive research and im 200+

Kyle is really spot on with this bike. The transmission ratios are perfect , The Geometry is great, the 2020 up tpis are really dialed, I don't see myself buying a Tuner it runs fantastic out of the box. It only needs a skid plate, disc guards and a case saver at the tip of the pipe. Running tubliss with the stock tires which have been really good but still in the first 10hrs, I'm ordering the proper rear spring from Slavins racing for my weight. Out of the Box, this bike don't need much IMHO Very Strange , I'm 6ft tall and the bars and pegs are in a perfect place for me. I know thats luck but the first time i rode the bike it felt like i was already used to it .

I was hesitant about going with an XC/TX for enduro riding, but I’m in love with the 2021 AER forks. Amazing. I went 300 for the extra grunt, which I’m super happy I did.

You hit the nail on the head. That's my favorite bike and your description was spot on!

I love my 2013 250 XC. Can’t wait to get my 2021 with all the updates. It is hands down my favorite hard enduro bike. So light and flickable, good ratios, awesome machine.

The camera quality in this vid outstanding

Saving my dirt bike purchases until after October 15. Good luck everyone. Great ride and great content as always.

@brandonnewman1018

3 жыл бұрын

Haven't watched the video yet but why?

@dmcdevitt8

3 жыл бұрын

Not a whole lot in the dealerships at the moment. Its been crazy

I have an 09 250 XC with an FMF Gnarly pipe and Powercore silencer, Smartcarb and Factory Connection suspension. I put a dual sport kit on it and it is plated and insured and road legal! I only use roads for very short sections to go from trail to trail. Totally incredible bike.

Ended getting 250 XC-W TPI.... awesome bike, wish I had gearbos of XC, but I also wanted PDS suspension and having breaklight/lamp on front is nice for when I have to ride on road to get to trail.

Didn't expect to see a trail I recognize in this video, I rode that solo on a trip in July on my 2015 500XCW. That same mud hole caught me by surprise then, and I'm sure it's only gotten deeper in recent months! Nice trail though, would have been more fun on my 250XC, but I was riding some long road stretches from camp to the trails so the big girl got the pick on that occasion. You should totally get a 500 in your stable for a season, with some minor mods they're shockingly friendly in technical singletrack. Not as fun as a 250/300, but very capable and much nicer on road connections.

I bought the 2021 XC 250 a month after this video was posted. I have rode pretty much everything and nothing comes close. The power valve can be adjusted to tour exact riding style.

Gorgeous terrain. always impressed how you can ride at this level and still speak intelligently at the same time! Great stuff bro. Keep it coming!

I know exactly how you felt, I ride a stiff as a board 98 cr250 and I got to ride my buddies 200 xc this weekend and it was unbelievable, I was twice as fast and cornered like I was on a bicycle.

You are on a high today buddy awesome 👍🇬🇧

Maybe in the open flowy stuff out west. Back east we have so much vegetation and things are tighter. 300 xcw all day.

@7thirtyseven

3 жыл бұрын

250 XC/XC-W way better in the tight stuff, granted new 300 TPI has a more appropriate bottom to mid, but the 250 will take you to the limits of traction making the 300 redundant. The handling is in different leagues in the tight stuff... 250 wins all day long.

@mxgryan

3 жыл бұрын

@@7thirtyseven absolutely not.

@jeff40

3 жыл бұрын

@@mxgryan I agree with you 100% and then some! The 300xc isn't much faster but it does have more usable torque & I wouldn't trade that extra torque for nothing.

That bike sounds like a trials bike especially when off the gas

Have you ever ridden the Beta 350 rr, would love to see how it is against the 390

Hi is there any chance you can review the new 2020 exc 150 thanks

Great video Kyle

I am entering to win this beast :D Would love to add an orange two stroke to my garage!

Just got done riding my 2007 model...arm pump for days. I am sooo outta shape. Only ride single track once a month. Currently trying to figure out what height to set my bars too, so I can stand up a bit more comfortably.

Hey been trying to decide between a ktm250 xc tpi and a ktm 250xcf. I was wondering what your thoughts on the bikes and what they’re good for?

I would make a purchase but don’t have the money. One day I will be able to afford a bike like that though. It’s one of my goals. 😂. Thank you for all you do on your channel though

Hi Kyle. You use the gray or black guide plate on the throttle?

Hey Kyle - I ride near where you in UT. Where are u riding and on which trail? AF canyon?

Hi. What rear sag do you ride on the Xc? Now my kid wants that bike

Hi Kyle, i’ve currently got an old 2004 WR250F, and just want some advice on an upgrade as I move on from the learner phase. Would I better off to go for a new WR or YZ250FX, or a bike like this 250 XC? I trail ride mainly, wider open tracks with not a huge amount of technical stuff. Interested to hear your thoughts! Cheers, Ryan.

@backwoodsbassin1870

3 жыл бұрын

250fx

@jimmygritz9714

3 жыл бұрын

Whatever you can get the better deal on.. If your in Florida the best deal is the leftover 2020 300 XC.. bout 10 flat out the door taxes included... all Yamahas going for like 9.2.. n that’s there cheaper 2 stroke that’s 18 years old

@legowolf22

3 жыл бұрын

I got a deal on a '19 TC250 (MX Husky version of the KTM 250SX). My neighbor picked up the YZ250x (2 stroke) After swapping with him, I'm glad I went Austrian. The 250xc has trail suspension and e start which my bike doesn't have. I can't imagine how good of a bike the XC is with proper trail suspension/trans/e start If you like 4 strokes get the yamy fx, if you like 2 strokes (and more power) get the XC

@PHXGlock

3 жыл бұрын

If you are not in CA get a two stroke. I strongly considered the YZ250x went with the KTM 250, Total Bummer I will not be able to take my 2 stroke to Pismo, however were headed to Coral Pink Sand Dunes in Utah.

@jdhart111

3 жыл бұрын

you have an amazing giant killing bike in its day...it is getting old tho...i would seriously try the new wrf 250 (21)then the 450f(21) first.then try euro..i had the wr450f new from 03-07 then the wr250f from 07-13....they did not update them and they lost me to the euro brands....(husaberg and ktm)loved my yammies!the euros have the future sown up....but....have a demo day coming up and i am looking forward to riding the new yammies!!!!

Keep them coming

Why are there so many trees on the ground? And why do the ones still standing look dead?

Awesome! I can’t wait to get back on the trail again, I’m recovering from a hip injury.

@mxgryan

3 жыл бұрын

Get well soon

Kyle, what tire sizes are you running?

I would like to see you ride a Beta 250RR

Would anyone recommend me swapping my 250 exc for this 250xc?

What’s on your front fender in the bottle?

That trail is wiggling all over the place because of uncleared deadfall. I'm curious of opinions whether you think it's good or bad?

I am an absolute off road beginner and I just started riding a 2022 exc TPI 250 two days ago. I am small, skinny and weak and yet I feel like I have been riding this bike for 10 years. I lowered the sag and now it fits like a glove. 6 star bike

@matiasmaldonado510

11 ай бұрын

How tall are you and how much do you weight, I'm asking you this because I'm thinking to buy a 250 xc but I'm a small guy, I'm 5'4" and weight 135 pounds without gear and I think the suspension is gonna be too stiff for me, I would like to know your experience on your bike, thanks.

@baccy81

11 ай бұрын

@@matiasmaldonado510 looks like you are shorter than me, you are going to need to lower the sag as much as you can and replace the seat with a lowered one. I got around the problem this way, as I am about 1,73 (m) and I was feeling insecure in the trails where you need to work with your feet. In terms of weight I am very skinny, underweight honestly, and the bike doesn't squat at all when I sit on it. If you are heavier than me, that is going to help you touch the ground more easily. If you feel height is a big issue, get yourself a Beta, much lower and easy to handle

@matiasmaldonado510

11 ай бұрын

@baccy81 thank you for replying back to me, I have a 2021 250fx which is a very tall bike, all I did was installed a lowering linkage which has lowered the bike just 1 inch and that's ok for me because now I can tip toe on just one side and I can ride without any issues like that, my main concern was about how stiff would the stock suspension feel for a 135 rider without gear.

@baccy81

11 ай бұрын

@@matiasmaldonado510 I don't think the KTM is particularly stiff. In any case that is a very easy fix, just change the spring in the mono, although then you're going to have trouble with balance in high speed transfers, if you ride on bitumen

What’s the range using stock tank, and would a larger tank necessitate carrying extra oil? Bikes work harder dragging my 200+ lbs around, more like 240 with gear and water...

@DirtBikeChannel

3 жыл бұрын

65-86 miles depending on terrain

Do two strokes engines blow easier? I like to cruise trails etc and wraaaaap the throttle.

What’s up … I am looking at getting a SX 250… but I only ride trails… will I need to mod it out or no… it’s a 2016 SX 250…

I'm a bigger guy and I have had a lot of 250s, and I have always tried to get more bottom out of them. Its never been quite enough. I got out of riding for a while and I'm looking to get back and for sure I'm getting a 300. I guarantee that the 300 still has enough top end to run hard In the easy stuff.

I have the same bike... I love it. But I don't think it's quite as snappy as Kyle's. I'm prob 40 lbs heavier than him though. :-(

Can I try your bike? Nice bike sir!

I live near Augusta ga. Are there any good trails near me? Just bought a 2021 300 xc looking for some new places to ride

@johnbolton9483

3 жыл бұрын

Google Highland park

Kyle I’ve always wondered why you choose the xc over the exc because isn’t the xc for mx

@rickspartan

3 жыл бұрын

SX is for motocross. XC is more like an aggressive off-road bike.

Hey Kyle or contributors, i can only afford 1 bike, so which would be better on track, the XC or the XC-W. Any thoughts are appreciated.

@goon.1

Жыл бұрын

the best for track is an sx but out of the xc and xcw, the xc is way better on track especially with its gearbox

Is it a 2 stroke

I will talk about a new bike like you are doing when I just ride it and then I’ll go race it and realize all of it’s flaws.

@babadagaa8352

3 жыл бұрын

Most of us don’t race

250xc? Or beta 200rr?

Have you ever hit the powerband on any of these bikes ? Seem to lug them very hardly

@jamesking4225

2 жыл бұрын

For real open that sucker up and let it eat!

OMG Kyle said "freaking"!

Might just have to do some single track after watching this!

I want to I know if a 250r is to much for a 14 year old?

@nostalgicbaainaar9751

3 жыл бұрын

Not at all. It's quick but you just take it easy on the throttle till you get used to the power. Enjoy

@kaisuhina8024

3 жыл бұрын

Id rather start on 125. You learn to use the clutch way better that way.

@johnwalsh1541

3 жыл бұрын

Bought my daughter a 200xcw for her 14th birthday, she is tiny,cant reach the ground, and she does fine,,,we are woods riders not moto crossers,lots of single track in places like Pennsylvania, upstate NY, and various other places in the northeast area of THE USA this was her 5th bike and had been riding dirtbikes for 7 years, with some seat time he should be fine,if you ride together, stay out front and control the pace until he gets use to

@tacobellbajablast69

3 жыл бұрын

Exact same situation of me, i have an 05 crf250r as 5’5 125lb and I do fine

Which 2 stroke oil are you guys running?

@rickspartan

3 жыл бұрын

Motorex cross power!

Love my 2020 XC ,perfect single track tool!

what area is this?

Canada ?

How much better than the yz250x? I'm a Yamaha guy who needs to make a decision 😊

What about the te250? A more refined version of the 250xc...

@PHXGlock

3 жыл бұрын

TE 250 is more like a 250 XC W with linkage suspension. The TX 300 are more like the 250-300XC

Couldnt agree more with your list of silly design flaws with those 2020's. Each one of them is head shake and/or Captain Picard face palm Meme worthy. Im glad my 2017 Husky TE300 doesnt have any of those silly design changes. The crazy thing is they actually sat in a room somewhere and decided to do each one of those changes, and they were probably sober even!

Picked up a 17 250 xc today...pre covid quality lol

I believe the 250 two stroke has all the power you need.. And sips less fuel than a 300.

@youtubeaccount9058

3 жыл бұрын

At a mile up a 300 is about equivalent to a 250 at sea level.

@jakesingles8327

3 жыл бұрын

300s drink bad, always looking how much is left after a solid 3-4 hours

@ian9toes

3 жыл бұрын

A 250 is like an 80hr old 300

@Freaki91

3 жыл бұрын

My buddys 300 use way less fuel than my 250 exc. And we have allmost the same setup from parts.

Just wish they weren’t so tall they would be great if the had the bata seat height

How about the Husqvarna TE250i? Same engine?

@mxgryan

3 жыл бұрын

Yes.

@PHXGlock

3 жыл бұрын

Same engine but a TE 250 is like a XCW with Linkage rear suspension. The Husky TX 300 is more the the KTM XC 250 and 300's. Megan from Megs Brap rides a TX300

@mxgryan

3 жыл бұрын

@@PHXGlock well said!

Rrrrrrrraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaang tang katang katang tang RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRannnnngggg! I miss Dirt Biking! I think I need another bike.....

You sold me on this bike

Enter into a hare scramble Kyle

Hey man, I'm in utah too. anyway i could borrow one of your bikes and ride with you? I've only ridden street.

@sekacity3425

3 жыл бұрын

Sure, he will mail you the keys ....oh wait....

What happend to all those trees??

@ryanbaker5104

3 жыл бұрын

They were burned in a forest fire.

Strange question but, who cut all those trees down and are they coming back for them?

@cadwarrior

3 жыл бұрын

Its someone...

@sarabrown2082

3 жыл бұрын

Fire

need to change channel name to KTM loverboy 😂

2021 250 xc-w 2 days ago. Wow! Never felt connected to a bike like this! It's your fault Kyle.

Years ago when KTM made the 200 wxc I found that I was faster on it than my 250 katoom.

There’s something special about a 250 2-stroke.. it’s magical. Kyle- you’re gonna have to start testing e-dirtbikes soon...

Ktm 4 life

Spot on Kyle. Will say that the 250xcf beats the XC though, except at the very slow balance stuff. Great vid

Yeah, I love my 250 xcw, so predictable!!

I think the KTM 300 XCW is better but that’s just me

@cadwarrior

3 жыл бұрын

300xc you mean😁

@tannerfisher4892

3 жыл бұрын

No I definitely mean the xcw. The wide ratio transmission and PDS rear suspension with the Xplor fork is better in my opinion

Later on the KTM will be selling the Best Beast!! 150 Xc!!!!

I've rode that bike and the 2stroke yz250x is much better!

KTM 250XC>>>>>>>

Getting famous off of comments day 184 just trying to live the dream 🤙🤙🤙🤙

@mxgryan

3 жыл бұрын

Hey

@titushutton792

3 жыл бұрын

The MX Guru what

@mxgryan

3 жыл бұрын

@@titushutton792 just saying hi

@titushutton792

3 жыл бұрын

The MX Guru hi

300 XC-W beats it :) 300 XCW will do all of this plus more when the trail gets more gnarly

Wtf ?

Only 300 TPI will beat the 250TPI.

@mxgryan

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed.

@firemenonbikes

3 жыл бұрын

Some like the playfulness of the 250 better.

Up Next: 6 Things that Suck on The 2020 KTM 2 Strokes lol

sorry kyle but i think my 04 cr85 is better than that ktm lol

@mxgryan

3 жыл бұрын

No.

@jakemoyer2801

3 жыл бұрын

@The MX Guru. it definitely is idk what your talking abt

@mxgryan

3 жыл бұрын

@@jakemoyer2801 its not better than m KLX110

@jakemoyer2801

3 жыл бұрын

@The MX Guru. you sure bout that one chief🧐 lol i want a pit bike really bad

@mxgryan

3 жыл бұрын

@@jakemoyer2801 I gotcha bro

I know exactly how you felt, I ride a stiff as a board 98 cr250 and I got to ride my buddies 200 xc this weekend and it was unbelievable, I was twice as fast and cornered like I was on a bicycle.

Kyle I’ve always wondered why you choose the xc over the exc because isn’t the xc for mx

@f5tornadeau

3 жыл бұрын

The sx is for motocross, at least in America. I believe the model names are different in Europe.

@firemenonbikes

3 жыл бұрын

XC - Cross Country. XCW enduro, but some like the XC gearbox ratios better and some like linkage over PDS (2020 xcw is much improved bike overall according to Kyle)

Kyle I’ve always wondered why you choose the xc over the exc because isn’t the xc for mx

@Bsteazy

3 жыл бұрын

XC is Cross Country. SXF is for MX. In his previous videos he says he likes the linkage and gear ratio's on the XC :)

@declanbuss2049

3 жыл бұрын

Ok thanks, although I wonder why he prefers the linkage if he’s says the normal one slides over logs and rocks better

@Bsteazy

3 жыл бұрын

@@declanbuss2049 Interestingly I've mostly had KTM exc's here in Aus with the PDS. Have always thought they were best for me. But riding a YZ250FX at the moment and love it. Even though we mostly trail ride and do some tech stuff, I really like going hard in flowy single track and the suspension/linkage on the Yammy makes me feel so much more confident. In fact looking back, the last time I felt so good on a bike through our terrain was on my 2016 Beta 300rr - which ironically also had linkage :)

@declanbuss2049

3 жыл бұрын

Well I’ve got a 2014 ktm 250 xcf with the wp linkage shock and I’m think of moving to a 2015 ktm 250 exc with the pds shock. I do hard enduro and I’ve heard that a 2 stroke would be more capable so do you think it would be worth it to make the switch?

@Bsteazy

3 жыл бұрын

@@declanbuss2049 Only you can answer that question my man. Why not try it, worst that will happen is you don't gel with it and go back to the 4t.