Canister Filters: How inlet and outlet position affects flow in your aquarium

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Hang on back filters and air driver filters are done, let's now talk about canister filters and how various arrangements of their inlets and outlets affect your aquarium
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  • @willparsons32
    @willparsons3210 ай бұрын

    I think we - the KZread Aquarium watching audience, need to band together and applaud you for your efforts and the amount of time (countless hours!) you devote to the teaching of the aquarium hobby... Seriously though! Professor Bentley Pasco.

  • @RafaelSwit
    @RafaelSwit Жыл бұрын

    Loving this series! Thank you, Bentley!

  • @cannibus78
    @cannibus78 Жыл бұрын

    Always entertaining and informative!!!

  • @debhalld9794
    @debhalld9794 Жыл бұрын

    Great explanations!

  • @simonbailey6492
    @simonbailey6492 Жыл бұрын

    Love your video's Bently. Thank you for making my tank a better place for my fish, a better environment for for plants and a healthier environment all round. Blessings

  • @2023BeTheChange
    @2023BeTheChange11 ай бұрын

    Thanks for your demos. Subscribed

  • @pittamonsugarin2690
    @pittamonsugarin2690 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much. This helps me a lot.

  • @nathanhoveyaquatics
    @nathanhoveyaquatics Жыл бұрын

    Really enjoying the series 👍👍

  • @leo2o915

    @leo2o915

    Жыл бұрын

    Agree love it

  • @irecruitfish7410
    @irecruitfish74103 ай бұрын

    Excellent video!

  • @danfox1458
    @danfox145816 күн бұрын

    I modded my split out let, it came with two duck bill nozzles that push and clip on but you can move them and they stay where they are, i cut the shoulder off one of them, and put a 90 elbow on making sure is was a tight fit and used a spray bar in place of the duck bill that's at a slight angle, so now got good flow top mid and bottom all around the tank

  • @aquatichighs
    @aquatichighs Жыл бұрын

    I have come so far in this hobby it’s unbelievable and I owe a lot of that to you!

  • @BentleyPascoe

    @BentleyPascoe

    Жыл бұрын

    Happy to help!

  • @MassAquaticx
    @MassAquaticx5 ай бұрын

    Great content 🎉brother thank you for youre help

  • @sschario60
    @sschario60 Жыл бұрын

    Loved this. Thanks Bentley. My 75 gal mbuna tank is set up with two Eheim canister filters. Both intakes are on the left pane of glass - one in the rear corner; the other in the front corner. Both filters' outlets combine via a "Y" connector to feed a single spray bar above the inlets. I also incorporate a wave maker. At the moment, the wave maker is mounted, also on the left side glass, angled upward and to the right. This placement I picked up from Cichlid Bros. Prior, I'd mounted the wave maker on the right side glass, aimed slightly downward. Both versions generate the best flow this tank has ever seen. My gut tells me the right-side wave maker option outperforms the other by boosting the right-to-left flow back to the intakes.

  • @ivanalovemore1686
    @ivanalovemore1686Ай бұрын

    Thank you for this video. I am going to be getting Fancy Oranda Goldfish, and they need good filtration, but are not fans of high water flow. I have an FX4 with split outlet. I will split my intake and outflow pipes (not put them on the same side) to give them a little resting room in the middle. Love your videos!!!

  • @leo2o915
    @leo2o915 Жыл бұрын

    This series is amazing

  • @Dennis52947
    @Dennis52947 Жыл бұрын

    All good information that I hadn't thought about, but didn't t cover my setup. I have a 30 gal. acrylic aquarium. I don't know if you are familiar with this tank, it has a hole in the back left corner for a heater and a slot centered in the back for a HOB. I used the left corner for the intake and the for right part of the slot (about 10 inches from the right side) for the outlet. The outlet is pointed at a sight angle to the front and this causes good aeration and a good current for right to left. This mainly a tetra and cory tank. It has been set up for over 2 years with no problems. Hope to see you at the Clash.

  • @yeders
    @yeders5 ай бұрын

    Wow, you're awesome. Long videos but well worth the watch and details! Glad you came up on my feed! I'm going to need to find an example of a weir and how best to do my outlets. And, do you have a video about outlet options? Eg I have a 8x2.5x2.5 tank with 2x 3000lph pumps, but their outlets are both 1 inch. If I attach a spray bar with small holes then that does a better job with flow pressure. Keen to get poop off the sand.

  • @yeders

    @yeders

    5 ай бұрын

    Given your UGF video, I'm fairly disappointed now.

  • @yeders

    @yeders

    5 ай бұрын

    Please ignore my questions re weir and outlets spraybar etc, you covered it later in the video 👍🏼👍🏼

  • @nickeverett358
    @nickeverett358 Жыл бұрын

    Sir, Can you do a recommendation video on setup using two canister filters? I think that setup is pretty common. Thanks in Advance!!

  • @nabokovfan87
    @nabokovfan87 Жыл бұрын

    Maybe this is a follow-up to these series of videos. In terms of common aquascaping styles, what filter flow path works best with each of them? Triangle scape, Island scape, jungle scape, forest style, iwagumi, bonsai, canyon style, and what I would call "dramatic" where you have a mix of everything with a big hard rock somewhere as a statement piece.

  • @nabokovfan87

    @nabokovfan87

    Жыл бұрын

    Second to this would be tank shape.... Bowfront, cylinder, rectangle, cube, nano, lowboy, and tall iterations of each of these.

  • @leo2o915
    @leo2o915 Жыл бұрын

    You should do a co2 schedule or the right way to dose something in that realm :)

  • @gdubb0409
    @gdubb0409 Жыл бұрын

    I'd be curious to see your thoughts in regards to systems that are running dual cannister filters

  • @BentleyPascoe

    @BentleyPascoe

    Жыл бұрын

    I mean, it's pretty simple. You're either combining opposite flow patterns or your increasing the amount of flow in a singular flow pattern. I don't think it's something that necessarily warrants an entire video. I think when you just analyze what a single pattern is and then figure out how you want to add the secondary canister. It's just that version of the flow pattern with the previous canisters flow pattern combined

  • @XxSwagGamersxX
    @XxSwagGamersxX Жыл бұрын

    Hey Bentley at any given moment if you were to test your tank what range of nitrates and potassium would you aim for / test. Also thank you for always responding to my silly comments. You are the best

  • @BentleyPascoe

    @BentleyPascoe

    Жыл бұрын

    I personally try to run a little lean, so 10-20ppm nitrates. Don't actively test potassium, I just monitor and dose regularly enough I almost never need to.

  • @cdecker84
    @cdecker843 ай бұрын

    What placement would you recommend for a 29 gallon? Is it better to put the spray bar along the back longways and intake on one side, or intake on one side and spray bar on opposite side?

  • @Mockthenerd
    @Mockthenerd5 ай бұрын

    Do you still think the spray bar on same side of inlet is a good idea? I'd like healthy flow but not over the top. I noticed when I had a normal outlet a lot of my fish just seemed unhappy on one side of the tank.

  • @Funsun39
    @Funsun39 Жыл бұрын

    The angle would be good for angelfish.

  • @paulstephens7696
    @paulstephens7696 Жыл бұрын

    Hi Bentley. Love your content. Is there any way to ask you a question but send a picture so you can see what I would be referring to, please?

  • @BentleyPascoe

    @BentleyPascoe

    Жыл бұрын

    Email: bentley.pascoe@gmail.com

  • @SG-Cichlids
    @SG-Cichlids Жыл бұрын

    You want to put the intake in the corner of your tank where it's the least amount of flow. Doesn't matter where the output is. The reason being is. The intake only sucks in as much water as what's flowing in the output tube but the output tube moves far more water than what's flowing through the tube. Why? The water coming out of the tube is pushing all the water in front of it plus the fast moving water creates a vacuum around the outlet. As water comes out the output at a high velocity it draws in water around it and takes it with it. This is why you want the intake in the dead zone. When the intake is in the moving water you have to get lucky when crap goes by. If it doesn't get close enough it just keeps flowing around the tank until by chance it gets sucked up or it falls out of suspension and sticks in the substrate, plants, whatever. If you put the intake in the dead zone, one it helps draw some movement into that zone, and two all the crap is dropping out of suspension around it, and three the fish like to hangout in the dead zone especially at night and they blow the crap into the intake with their tails. Another good thing about the dead zone for those who vacuum their tank. Which you should. Is a ton of waste drops into the substrate in the dead zone. If you have the water flow right. I can get in my takes I estimate 70% of the weeks waste dropped into the substrate in the dead zone and Saturday's when I vacuum I remove 70% of the weeks waste from the tank. Which mean your filters are taking up 70% less waste. Which means your filters can run at maximum efficiency much longer. Remember your filters no matter which type only runs at maximum efficiency biologically and mechanically when you have a good bio film built up but hasn't reduced flow yet. If you keep your filters to clean or let them go to long they don't run at max efficiency. Not to mention the balance of bacteria in your filter. You have nitrifying bacteria and bacteria that break down solid waste both are beneficial. The balance that needs to be kept is due to nitrifying bacteria reproduce much slower than the other bacteria. So if you clean to often you'll have less nitrifying and more waste bacteria. If you let it go to long you'll have more nitrifying and less waste bacteria. You would think that would be good but if it weren't for the waste bacteria your filters would clog in weeks not months. The way I have a one of my tanks setup the only thing that ever clogs is the floss because of how much media I have. More specifically sponge. I have enough and water spread out across enough of it that the waste bacteria can keep up. Coupled with how I have flow setup so I can vacuum 70% of the waste out weekly it works terrific. My tanks never turn green, they never grow Algae, and I only need to clean the bio film haze off the glass every two months. The back panels of my tanks literally have never been cleaned. I have a 75 gallon with about 25 adult African Cichlids in my kitchen that hasn't had any of the glass cleaned since August of 2021 and is pristine. Looks like it's brand new.

  • @nathanhoveyaquatics
    @nathanhoveyaquatics Жыл бұрын

    After you get through all the styles of filtration can/will you please do a video on using 2 or more of the filters on 1 tank? I run a hob and canister on a tank and then a hob and sponge on others. Really struggling with the hob/canister on my cichlid tank. I also have wave makers in with them.. Thanks for any help.

  • @cannibus78

    @cannibus78

    Жыл бұрын

    All my tanks have 2 filters...hob and canister or canister and sponge...I put my fx6 input on the left side output on the right side aiming one output along the back wall the other towards the front The aquaclear 110 is on the left side so it's input is next to the fx6 input I have a sicci WaveMaker on the right side aimed towards the left and up for surface agitation and push everything towards the outputs

  • @nathanhoveyaquatics

    @nathanhoveyaquatics

    Жыл бұрын

    @@cannibus78 awesome. Thanks for the input 👍👍

  • @SG-Cichlids

    @SG-Cichlids

    Жыл бұрын

    You never mentioned what the problem your having is or where you have everything placed. It would be easier to offer you some suggestions if we knew. Anyhow put the hob on the left or right side. Then put the intake and output both on the opposite corner with the output pointing on an angle to the center of the front panel of your tank. So it will be on an angle towards the middle of your front panel literally. It will be on an angle slightly down. Then make sure you have the water level high enough that when the water leaves the hob is not cascading into the tank. It will flow across the top of the water. It will do this when the water level touches the exit ramp of the hob. Don't worry about aeration. The water flowing across the top of the tank from the hob will keep it aerated. If you have wave makers in my opinion sell them. They're not needed. Save the money on electricity and use the flow from your filters to keep your tank clean like they're meant to do. Thanks to KZread people have their filters and wave makers pointed at the surface of their tanks. It's completely unnecessary.

  • @yeders
    @yeders2 ай бұрын

    Hey, back again, so i have a 8x2.5x2.5 with a weir. I run two x 3000lph pumps with 1 inch fittings. I wasn't quite sure if the spray bar at the end facing down the tank was recommended, or if its good to have the spray bar pointing out from the weir side across the tank. Right now, they pump out from the back corner (right side) and the weir is on the left side (no spray bar, but would do diy). The two pump outlets are pointed in semi different directions, but i do have a deadspot underneath the outlets on the ground (its 75cm away). I was running three x 3000lph but my discus were getting blown away. Ha ha. Rainbows liked it though.

  • @BentleyPascoe

    @BentleyPascoe

    2 ай бұрын

    Don't see anything wrong with that set up

  • @yeders

    @yeders

    2 ай бұрын

    @@BentleyPascoe yeah. I might add a small spray bar to the short side of the tank. One question, with a weir, what is the implication of having the outlets on the same side as the weir? Either pointing across the top or downwards?

  • @BentleyPascoe

    @BentleyPascoe

    2 ай бұрын

    @@yeders I would position across

  • @kaloyantattoo
    @kaloyantattoo8 ай бұрын

    hi,it's very good video,but what about positioning of two canister filters in 2m long aquarium

  • @BentleyPascoe

    @BentleyPascoe

    8 ай бұрын

    You would just combine the effects of each directional set. So you could try and create something that's more river-like or both the outputs are on the left and both the inlets are on the right. Or you could put one inlet and outlet on each side to get more even flow. It's all up to what you want for your aquarium.

  • @adhirpatel4138
    @adhirpatel4138 Жыл бұрын

    Hi. Using canister filter& planning to add one more (hang on back filter) on the opposite side, so as to ensure both sides are cleaned properly. Pls advise. Take is 40gallons. Cainster flow is 1500/L & hang on filter flow is 1200/l

  • @BentleyPascoe

    @BentleyPascoe

    Жыл бұрын

    Should be fine, it will just combine the flow and give good circulation in the tank

  • @JacintaSimmons-ib1zr
    @JacintaSimmons-ib1zr10 ай бұрын

    I have 2 canister filters and have discus what would be the best way to set them up as I want water circulation but calm for discus?

  • @BentleyPascoe

    @BentleyPascoe

    10 ай бұрын

    Likely back to front flow, or find spray bar attachments to disperse flow

  • @ricardosaldana3164
    @ricardosaldana3164 Жыл бұрын

    Do you have videos about using wave makers ?

  • @BentleyPascoe

    @BentleyPascoe

    Жыл бұрын

    I don't, sorry.

  • @HazzaBeeUk
    @HazzaBeeUk Жыл бұрын

    Any information about a corner tank?

  • @BentleyPascoe

    @BentleyPascoe

    Жыл бұрын

    Really, the only change is the deflection of the water because you're not going off of a completely flat surface. If you're headed toward the bow portion of the corner tank. Other than that, the same concepts will apply

  • @nisseneichorn9056
    @nisseneichorn9056 Жыл бұрын

    Hey bentley what about duel canisters in a longer tank like a 125

  • @BentleyPascoe

    @BentleyPascoe

    Жыл бұрын

    Well, if you're splitting them, it's basically just doing a double up of each thing so you can create that kind of vortex effect from each side of the tank.

  • @nisseneichorn9056

    @nisseneichorn9056

    Жыл бұрын

    I have never set up a tank of that length before I was thinking both intakes in the back corner the one output there and the second one about half way down the length to keep the flow going so it reaches the far wall I was not sure if it's better to split them and have 2 separate flows or trying the make them flow together in a longer pattern

  • @reneesnugent3358
    @reneesnugent335810 ай бұрын

    I recently purchased the Hydro Prime 10 for a 37-gallon tank for angelfish. How should I set up, or should I return and get a different filter? I'm trying to breed angelfish.

  • @BentleyPascoe

    @BentleyPascoe

    10 ай бұрын

    You might actually have too much filtration. Potentially. Angels tend to do better in more gentle, flowing water when it comes to trying to breed them. Most commonly people will use sponge filtration in a slightly smaller tank, but given the size of tank you're using, you might look at using a more simple hang on back. Something like an aqua clear 50

  • @SuperBuckley
    @SuperBuckley4 ай бұрын

    Hi Bentley have you any advice on flow in a corner aquarium? Thanks for your help.

  • @BentleyPascoe

    @BentleyPascoe

    4 ай бұрын

    If you can try to have the outward flow as center as possible. Because when it hits the corner or if you have like a bow front, The water will disperse in multiple directions and help generate flow in more areas.

  • @SuperBuckley

    @SuperBuckley

    4 ай бұрын

    @BentleyPascoe wow thanks Bentley the exact opposite to what I was going to do. Thanks a million. I'm getting the hypermax 4500 which has 2 outlets so I'll put one on each side facing towards the middle of the bow front. Thanks a million for your advice sir.

  • @chandahermanson7404
    @chandahermanson74043 ай бұрын

    I need your advise?? I’ve been reading many reviews lately that Aqueon has the media placement instructions backwards for the quiet flow canister filters? Could you please help me figure out which way is right? Thanks

  • @BentleyPascoe

    @BentleyPascoe

    3 ай бұрын

    For the quiet floor canister, the pump head is in the top lid. So the water flow is going to move from the bottom to the top and then return to your tank. So you'll want to put your sponge media in the bottom trays followed by any other media. Basically what you want is your mechanical filtration to be at the very bottom and you want to order that. If you're using multiple types of sponge starting with the most course and ending with the finest sponge. Then go into any other media that's there for biological filtration and not mechanical filtration. Hope that helps!

  • @chandahermanson7404

    @chandahermanson7404

    3 ай бұрын

    So….what I’ve been reading is correct? That Aqueon’s media placement instructions are indeed assbackwards……That’s crazy?!?!!! You would think they would edit them? But one of the main reasons why I was questioning it was having the sponge filter up top(backwards) it was completely covered in the most debris and detritus. While the others sections were pretty much spotless?? So I’m glad I asked you for help and for thanks for your quick response!! One last thing where would carbon placement be in which section?

  • @chrisweston3029
    @chrisweston3029 Жыл бұрын

    Hey Bentley I’m keeping a 4ft rainbow tank running a Eheim pro 4 with spray bar on the same side as the intake. I feel the flow is great, plants are moving nice. But my question is how high do you think I should have the filter set? At the moment I’ve got it running full flow, and I feel like the rainbows like it but just wondered your thoughts on this. I have a mix of sizes from 5-6cm to 7-8cm fish mainly boasmani, red rainbow, blue lake kabutu. But I’ve always wondered if it’s to much flow for them? Any info would be much appreciated

  • @BentleyPascoe

    @BentleyPascoe

    Жыл бұрын

    With a spray bar you're going to diffuse some of that flow so you could probably push it all the way to the max. If you really want to, the rainbows will be able to handle it

  • @chrisweston3029

    @chrisweston3029

    Жыл бұрын

    @@BentleyPascoethank you. P.s your knowledge on rainbow fish is fascinating. Keep up the great work 👍

  • @LeroyL113
    @LeroyL1134 ай бұрын

    Great video ❤ Would love some input. Im setting up a nee tank 190Gallon. 200x60x60CM I got a hypermax 4500. Huge filter it has two inlates and two outlets. I only keep ranchu goldfish so I want a nice flow but not to hard. How would you set up this filter or just 2 filters on one tank?

  • @BentleyPascoe

    @BentleyPascoe

    4 ай бұрын

    Both inlets toward the center of the tank, then each outlet on the far end (one right, one left) this should give reasonable flow in the tank

  • @LeroyL113

    @LeroyL113

    4 ай бұрын

    @@BentleyPascoe thanks. Is it also a god ideaa to do 1 spraybar and a normal nozzle on them. Or 2 spraybars 2 nozzels

  • @dmzsniper
    @dmzsniper9 ай бұрын

    Don't have a big tank but how about for a 36 bow? Right now I have the intake and heater on left and the output on the right but with it pointed at the front bow so it hits the glass from right to left towards the intake. Do you think I should move it? Thanks

  • @BentleyPascoe

    @BentleyPascoe

    9 ай бұрын

    Nope, I think you're good

  • @dmzsniper

    @dmzsniper

    9 ай бұрын

    @@BentleyPascoe Great, thank you for the response and great info.

  • @TheSunIsMyDestroyer
    @TheSunIsMyDestroyer Жыл бұрын

    hi bentley where do i place my diffuser if i only have an internal filter and not a canister? right now i have my diffuser directly under my internal filter (which has super strong flow), is there a better position for it?

  • @BentleyPascoe

    @BentleyPascoe

    Жыл бұрын

    Depending on the output of the internal filter, I would try to place it either directly opposite of where the flow is pointed toward so that when it the flow deflects off the glass, it's going to push the CO2 with it or I would put it as close to the output as possible so that as water is being pushed across the tank, it's also pushing CO2 with it. For a higher flow rate, internal canister across the tank is okay. If it's not a lot of flow, I would try to put it as close to the outlet as possible.

  • @TheSunIsMyDestroyer

    @TheSunIsMyDestroyer

    Жыл бұрын

    @@BentleyPascoe thank you, i'll put it on the other side, yeah there is a adequate flow i think because i have it on the back right corner of the tank and it hits the glass to the left back corner and i can still see my plants swaying on the front left corner and all the way to the front right corner of the tank

  • @TheSunIsMyDestroyer

    @TheSunIsMyDestroyer

    Жыл бұрын

    @@BentleyPascoe lmao my tank looks like a sponge bob bubble party now

  • @cynthiareinhardt4032
    @cynthiareinhardt403211 ай бұрын

    So what be would be the best for a bowfront? I have a 55 gal and am trying to decide if I should use a spray bar. I have a rather odd assortment of fish😅 discus, tetras, and 2 vampire shrimp..

  • @BentleyPascoe

    @BentleyPascoe

    11 ай бұрын

    Sprays bars are great for dispersing flow across a wider area. I like them for tanks like bow fronts

  • @cynthiareinhardt4032

    @cynthiareinhardt4032

    11 ай бұрын

    @@BentleyPascoe thank you, that's helpful😁

  • @Leon-xr6xy
    @Leon-xr6xy3 ай бұрын

    What if you have 3 fx6 on one tank? How does that work?

  • @BentleyPascoe

    @BentleyPascoe

    3 ай бұрын

    You're basically just doing what a singular one does in three different locations or all in the same location. It depends on how you place them. Take the information from one and apply it to multiple

  • @reneesnugent3358
    @reneesnugent335810 ай бұрын

    Should I add a skimmer ? Worried about the fry. The tank is 37 gallon high.

  • @BentleyPascoe

    @BentleyPascoe

    10 ай бұрын

    If you're concerned about fry, I wouldn't add a skimmer

  • @4417t
    @4417t10 ай бұрын

    Would two FX6 cannister filter outtakes pointed upward provide enough gas exchange and oxygen for a 125 gallon African cichlid tank stocked with about 35 fish?

  • @BentleyPascoe

    @BentleyPascoe

    10 ай бұрын

    I would think so

  • @4417t

    @4417t

    10 ай бұрын

    @BentleyPascoe Thanks for the response Bentley. I am starting up a 125 gal tank and still in the set up stage. I will be adding a crossflow wavemaker and was wondering what if it happens to fail when I'm not home, not due to a power outage (which I will have B11 battery back ups for) but if the motor itself fails and the power stays on. The only thing that would be providing surface agitation at that point would be the cannister filters, and there will be two. So I'm thinking that is enough redundancy for a safe set up...

  • @erinmiles4671
    @erinmiles46716 ай бұрын

    What placement do you recommend for a 20 long? Thank you!

  • @BentleyPascoe

    @BentleyPascoe

    6 ай бұрын

    I prefer inlet on one end, outlet on the other for a 20L personally

  • @erinmiles4671

    @erinmiles4671

    6 ай бұрын

    Ok. Thank you so much!

  • @asengeorgiev5039
    @asengeorgiev5039 Жыл бұрын

    Hi. I have been watfching lots of your videos. I have a rader hard question for me, mey be not so much for you. I have 2 canisters, with smae flow, same models. MY aquarium is 120x45x55cm. How should i set up my 2 canisters? Where to put inlet and outlet of both canisters, so i get teh maximum effect. The tank will be hard with plants on the back and very little plants in the front. Looking forward for your comments!

  • @BentleyPascoe

    @BentleyPascoe

    Жыл бұрын

    Personally I would do something like this: input and output from canister one on the right side, input toward the back. Input of canister two toward the front on the left, output toward the back on the left. Outputs should be up higher, inlets down low. This creates a somewhat circular flow, but allows some dispersion by the planting and any hard scape.

  • @asengeorgiev5039

    @asengeorgiev5039

    Жыл бұрын

    @@BentleyPascoe Thank you very much for your fast answer. I was also thinking on the following tow ideas of putting both inlet and outlet. What i mean is - input and output of canister one of the back left side, second canister input and output on the front right side! Or both input and outputs of both canisters on the left side (back and front side), so both flows go to the opposite side (right) and return back to the two inlets (left) What is your opinion? I will also inject CO2 trough a difuser from the output pipes.

  • @BentleyPascoe

    @BentleyPascoe

    Жыл бұрын

    @@asengeorgiev5039 that is a good alternative as well

  • @Funsun39
    @Funsun39 Жыл бұрын

    Make it a bird😅

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