tom boonen's "suffering" and "fighting the bike" is lightyears faster than I could go up that hill

@warrenvazquez

10 жыл бұрын

it's incredible - he is one of the elite and he is suffering at the hands of cancellara. most of us would have climbed off the bike miles before

@Tonytestcase

5 жыл бұрын

Did Boonen change his gear a couple of times? There are moments when his pedal speed is lower, before the gap is growing.

@DanielSong39

4 жыл бұрын

Only way I get up that hill is by climbing off the bike

This actually should be put to a scientific investigation. Physicists should calculate how much (more) power you need to output to build so much advantage in a couple seconds on a steep more than 10% (average I believe it was more than 10% at this very moment). Someone who cycle anything in his life and when put this into one's head knows exactly that this situation is just iconically ridiculous.

@DanielSong39

7 жыл бұрын

It's like the Froome acceleration up the Ventoux in 2013. A 1000+ watt surge within a couple seconds that takes place without visible effort from the rider.

@skinny55772

7 жыл бұрын

They should compare his time in the video to the Strava segment for it. If it's the same for some random strong guy doing 600 watts then it's probably legit.

@oldtwinsna8347

4 жыл бұрын

Just estimates out of my butt after using Zwift for so long: Boonen was probably putting out a solid 600 watts at that moment and when seeing Cancellara motor away raised that to 700-800 watts. Cancellara's distancing would make the output well over 1400 watts. That's the kind of power unleashed in a sprint, which Cancellara had no pedigree for, plus he doesn't even show strained signs of that kind of power being made.

@DanielSong39

9 ай бұрын

@@oldtwinsna8347 Cancellara actually has had top 5 finishes in bunch sprints but yeah you're not going to do 1400 watts+ there without putting in a visible effort

@dunkulusjones4564

5 ай бұрын

@@oldtwinsna8347 please show your calculations

Watching this back now, the way he moves his legs reminds me of how guys go along on e-bikes. Today, everyone would have figured it out, back then, e-bikes weren’t as common.

Wow, Cancellara was really motoring up that climb, wasn't he?

@StopTheRot

Ай бұрын

😂

@2011hwalker

10 күн бұрын

such an obvious motor doping case. His hips and shoulders arent even moving to show any effort in the steepest part of the climb.

I used to give cancellara the benefit of the doubt. But after discovering the very very sneaky second bike change I think its very unlikely he didnt do mechanical doping. Cancellara had a mechanical issue and did a first bike chance. The main mechanic jumps out of the car and gives him a new bike. A few km's later Breschel has a real issue and requests a new bike, but the main mechanic isnt in the car anymore resulting in Breschel getting the wrong bike, losing a lot of time and never returning to the front. A few km further the images show Cancellara suddenly sitting on his original bike. What happened, at the point where cancellara did his first bike change, the stage makes a loop. The mechanic had to walk 500 meter to get on the other part of the stage. What does amateur footage reveal. In a turn everybody where makes the short turn, Cancellara goes wide where the main mechanic is waiting with the original bike and you see Cancellara do a lightning bike swap. Its a sad thing but after all these years i am convinced Cancellara cheated.

@HolgerDanske874

10 ай бұрын

I don't understand. Why wasn't any of this caught by cameras in a race like this?

@mkballer4502

20 күн бұрын

literally just look at his power numbers he has done those many times and the time up was good but not even super impressive. It just looked that fast because boonen was cooked and used a wrong gearing.

@2011hwalker

10 күн бұрын

Nah this is one of the clearest cases of motor doping of all time. Ever been passed by e bikes on steep hills? Thats exactly what it looks like. A smooth seated cadence with no rise in perceived effort versus the flat. 0:33 Cancellara hips and shoulders rocking significantly on the lower gradients of the first part of the climb 2:38 remarkably his cadence gets smoother and faster on the brutal section of the climb. It doesnt pass the eyeball test, it doesnt make sense physiologically and its basically borderline impossible.

FYI, Boonen gained time on every other rider in the field in the Muur. That should give you some perspective on how fast Cancellara went up the climb.

@william6171

Жыл бұрын

Annemiek van Vleuten in 2020 Omloop het Nieuwsblad went faster up it than Cancellara in 2010 Ronde

@jeroendekort5696

Жыл бұрын

Na hoeveel km moest Annemiek de muur op?

@Shitinthemorning

Жыл бұрын

Boonen had a gear problem, why nobody can see that?!

@jaysimoes3705

2 ай бұрын

It is not the whole climb that is important here. It is that Fabian went only in the last 300 m or so and that is where it is amazing/suspiscious.

La caméra écrase beaucoup l' image , mais pour l' avoir déja fait en VTT , c est un véritable mur , la pente est impressionnante !! Ce que fait Cancellarra est inhumain , quelque chose cloche et je m' etais deja fait la reflexion en direct

@mr0totonio

3 жыл бұрын

EBIKE

@simonrano8072

2 ай бұрын

il y a que 50 m à plus de 14 %, le reste à 10 % ou moins. C'est pas si terrible et le pavé est très régulier. La côte de la ferme Libert fait la même longueur mais sa moyenne est au niveau de la pire portion du Grammont. Le Koppenberg aussi est bien plus raide que le Grammont avec un pavé bien plus mauvais mais sec pas besoin d'un VTT

Ahahahah the next video KZread suggests me is "GCN - Are e-bikes fun? Road bike vs e-bike".

@DanielSong39

5 жыл бұрын

Well you see the difference in this video

@joshschrader4732

3 жыл бұрын

As likely as QAnon

Cancellara had a very “special” bike that day. And also in Paris-Roubaix.

@alexp247365

9 ай бұрын

This was the day my hero died....

@lucmeeussen9714

2 ай бұрын

Prove it or shut up.

@el_vee_ee

2 ай бұрын

Slechte verliezers

@oceanedetotes

2 ай бұрын

@@lucmeeussen9714 close your eyes doesn't turn the light off

@jansnauwaert1785

Ай бұрын

@@lucmeeussen9714 Indeed, all this is (stupid) gossip. If you can't prove it, shut up indeed. Cancellara was an exceptional champion.

No one can convince me that he wasn't motorized, especially if you see also the video of Paris Roubaix of a week later...

@nicolasdelaforge7420

8 ай бұрын

He needed no motor to win 6 world titles in TT, when he could not have cheated.

100% motor can’t believe I didn’t saw it when I watched it live in 2010

I will always remember this attack, because afterword, Tom Boonen said (paraphrasing): "I didn't have any problem there. I was riding well. When he attacked near the top, I was doing 900 watts, but he was still riding away. " (It turns out, Cancellara had a max power that day of 1450, probably during that attack)

@roebbiej

3 жыл бұрын

His motor* and cancellara combined was 1450 watts

@kahtering3555

2 жыл бұрын

Motor Doping

@gimmigimmigimmi

Жыл бұрын

900w on a climb? you clearly don't know what you're talking about. maybe try riding a bike once?

@JumpingWatermelons

Жыл бұрын

@@gimmigimmigimmi you don't think Tom Boonen could make 900w while riding up a short hill?

@gimmigimmigimmi

Жыл бұрын

@@JumpingWatermelons 900w is more than 10w/kg, so the answer is easily no.

Firstly, I am a great fan of Fabian Cancellara and think he was an exceptionally gifted and strong rider. But I have to admit that his performances during 2010 do cause questions to be asked. The featured extract of Cancellara attacking Tom Boonen [who is no slouch and an extremely strong rider himself] on the brutal climb of Muur van Geraardsbergen in the Tour of Flanders is simply staggering! And in the 2010 edition of the Paris-Roubaix [which had been raced a few weeks earlier] Cancellara had casually 'rode away' from a group of top quality riders 50k from the finish line to secure a solo victory. This was no second-string bunch made up of domestiques and also-rans. It included the likes of Sylvain Chavanel, Stuart O'Grady, Filippo Pozzato and again, Tom Boonen - all highly capable and experienced pros. According to Boonen himself, after recovering from the initial shock of Cancellara's audacious attack, the group started to work together and were travelling at 55kph. Even so, Cancellara was still going away from them! [by the end of the race he had put 4 minutes into his competitors!] To distance a chasing group of top guys all working together like that takes a remarkable effort. And the ease at which Cancellara did this does beggar belief.

@laurentwarnon441

3 жыл бұрын

Boonen was top and fit that year. He beat his own record on this climb and looks like a child compared to the motorman... So how can the swiss cheater drop so easily a top tom boonen who climbed faster than the other years...

@thesoultwins72

2 жыл бұрын

@@laurentwarnon441 ........Hi Laurent - yes I was very suspicious of Cancellara in both the P-R and Tour of Flanders as I said. Of course, we will probably never know the 'truth' but to drop an extremely strong rider such as Tom Boonen in that manner - just doesn't seem 'correct'.

@bellavia5

Жыл бұрын

It is cause for suspicion.

@andresbravo704

10 ай бұрын

Nada para extrañarse. La "Locomotora de Berna" fue 2 veces Campeón Olímpico de Contrarreloj (2008 y 2016) y pudo haber sido 3 veces (sufrió una caída en el Gran Fondo de Londres, 2012 ). El suizo, uno de los mejores clasicómanos y contrarrelojistas de la historia. Eso es todo.

It’s almost like cancellara has a hidden motor in his frame.

@SSVukic

2 ай бұрын

All his win was with hidden electric motor.

and there my grandson, the e-bike was born

Did Cancellara just put 30 seconds on Boonen in under a minute?

@charlesjohnson9249

6 жыл бұрын

Something like that. And it can happen, I remember Froome loosing around 30-35 seconds on a climbing stage at the TdF 2017, on the last 150 meters!

@TheSteinbitt

5 жыл бұрын

mega smacky Phil Gaimon troopers are here lol

@santiagobenites

5 жыл бұрын

@@dansprague2 Cancellara used a motor. It's obvious. Sadly he got away with it.

@toozydude2

5 жыл бұрын

Putting 30s on someone in 1min requires the front person to go 1/3 faster than the other. If you go twice as fast as them, then u gain more than 1min gap in 1min.

@TheSteinbitt

5 жыл бұрын

Frank M Boonen was on the limit going into the climb, Cancellara waited for the steep and put the hammer down. It happens almost any year in the RVV, this year Bettiol did it to GvA and the rest of the favorites. Not really unbelievable, just racing. The fact that he never got out of the saddle is his style, and to avoid slipping on the steep cobbles while putting out 1000+W.

This brings back memories of being dropped by an elderly woman on an e-bike with a couple of baguettes in her basket. Looks very similar.

Well..as a belgian who has followed pro cycling for 50 years now...I had never seen this kind of "acceleration" ..twice in a matter of 7 days...2010..both times Cancellara...1 in RVV...1 in Roubaix....What bothers me the most in RVV are his numerous bike changes...clearly they were planned and the exchanges were done to perfection. I have seen a ton of RVV and Roubaix.....and I can tell you that in these classics in full "finale" bike changes ONLY take place if something breaks on the original bike. Even pro's will tell ya....In Roubaix...well..yes..the group was looking at each other ..true..so if you reference his speed to those 3 or 4 riders it seems like he's flying...but I do not reference it at those 3-4...I just observe the sudden ( I mean like lightning quick) enormous increase in cadence ..even as he"s looking backward and the Boonen group not exactly going slow ( one long queue). Within seconds of what should be a huge effort he looks back and keeps it all looking just a little bit too smooth for me. BTW..companies have been experimenting with electrical "in frame" motors for years..one canadian company even has their setup with SRAM..lol......oops...coincidence or not. Am I against Cancellara ?...far from..I consider him half a flandrien and a beast indeed. But these 2 moments were "super human" or at least to this day that is how I remember them....because they seemed truly effortless. And I have seen hundreds of "demarrages" by equally talented one-day-classic riders in these 2 classics.....in all those I WITNESSED GREAT PHYSICAL EFFORT with a totally different body language.

@pato20995

6 жыл бұрын

In Roubaix he looked like one the camera motors was passing the group. Like he pushed the throttle

@DanielSong39

5 жыл бұрын

Then Chris Froome did it twice, 2013 Ventoux and 2015 PSM

@DanielSong39

4 жыл бұрын

Also for long range attacks, see Floyd Landis 2006 Tour and Chris Froome 2018 Giro

@schattelux1454

3 жыл бұрын

sorr looser

@notreally2406

2 жыл бұрын

@@DanielSong39 On an up and down course a great climber can open the gap on each climb and hold that gap on the descents

He was speculated to have illegal support in his pedalling. Its so steep and yet he just sat on his saddle like nothing happened and then he looked down to his bike at the top of the climb.

Madre mia Cancellara-Boonen tete a tete. Ataque impresionante en el mejor escenario posible. Momento mítico ya del ciclismo. Bestial. Ojalá vuelva a este nivel para 2015 y veamos una Vlaanderen espectacular. Espero ver a Wellens ahí en la pelea.

@YoutubSUCKZ

2 жыл бұрын

te gusta el motociclismo?

@bibialan6071

11 ай бұрын

@@YoutubSUCKZ y a ti chupar no? Suckz

Thank you!

I don't understand how people still aren't able to see the pure fraude shown here

@devidia

7 жыл бұрын

At the time of the race, bikes weren't checked for mechanical doping. Do you even bike, bro?

@devidia

7 жыл бұрын

Makes it only stranger that you have no clue of bike check ups at races of that time

@devidia

7 жыл бұрын

bro

@pato20995

6 жыл бұрын

About 10-20 bikes of the 400 are checked in most races, some races check up to 200 bikes, but never all of them

@pato20995

6 жыл бұрын

And yea they started doing it in 2013, screening randomly around 10-20 bikes in 2013, they started checking more intensively from 2018 on.

If anyone believes that, the reason is very simple, they have never pedal in their life. And especially on cobblestone and worst up a wall at almost 20%

Cancellara "motors" ahead? I see what you did there.

@Angel-gn2on

8 жыл бұрын

Cancellara is monster, Boonen is outclassed so dont talk rubish.

@3vimages471

8 жыл бұрын

+Jojo Labuguen You can even work out where Sparticus turned on his motor! Are you blind?

@JamieSmith-fz2mz

7 жыл бұрын

It's completely unnatural to simply accelerate away from your nearest competitor on that pitch and open up that big of a gap without a bit of anguish on your face. He looks so effortless - like he's waiting for an oil change. Sorry, but there is no such thing as Superman.

@gempidge

7 жыл бұрын

After thinking again, I think he was just switching on the radio. But what song, gives such motivation? Pray, do tell...

@bernardhinault9377

6 жыл бұрын

You can see boonen actually runs into the wall with his front tire, right as the commmentator says Aww, that is what makes the gap so staggering.

I rode up the Muur myself this year for the first time and my respect for those guys just exploded…just like i did fighting these cobbles

This is DOPE. both mechanical and medical.

@jansnauwaert1785

Ай бұрын

Well, besides that I don't buy it: you can't prove if, so shut up.

Around 2.37, you can see Cancerella's doing something... right before he takes off. Funny how on the bits of the slope where EVERYONE else has to stand up in the saddle, Cancerella remains comfortably seated.

@gempidge

9 жыл бұрын

MERE CONJECTURE: That he uses an electric motor. FACT: You find many videos in which he makes strange hand movements right before he attacks FACT: You can find many videos where he is doing an attack on steep climbs, and he is the only one who doesn't rise out of the saddle. FACT: There is no actual proof Cancerella has broken the rules. FACT: Swiss people are awesome, Switzerland is awesome.

@gempidge

9 жыл бұрын

Tamhas B although it is rather hard to believe that such a tiny battery could do any good for more than about 5 seconds. Probably more likely that Cancerella is just a god on two wheels now that i think about it. If there was battery that good in existence, why hasn't Apple put one in my iPhone?

@tobi-sui6133

9 жыл бұрын

haha you are joking... but believe me i hate nothing more than cheaters in cycling. An if cancellara would cheat I can't believe they would have found it out. And he didn't win all the other classic races so there might be some races who perfectly fit to him. His legs might have more power, so he doesn't have to rise out of the saddle. But I'm not an expert... Are you from belgium?

@szalaydaniel8631

8 жыл бұрын

+Tamhas B A few notes: He is just switching gears before the attack. Rising out of the saddle means a higher heart rate = faster lactate buildup. In this video Boonen is struggling already at the bottom of the hill; he gets out of the saddle a lot, which happens often when somebody cannot keep up. Cancellara looks fresh from the beginning of the hill, holds a high cadence consistently and powers through. Just take a look at the cadence difference from 2:23. My opinion: Spartacus is a beast.

@danielabrams7587

8 жыл бұрын

+Tamhas B No motor here. Look at his cadence! Cancellara is spinning his tits off!

Impossible to give such a gap against a strong rider like Boonen

@claudiobini7711

5 жыл бұрын

Analoga considerazione in una tappa in cui fu staccato Peter Sagan . Il modo con cui Cancellara superò Sagan che peraltro era in in piena forma è e rimane sospetto .

@musiccorner6377

Жыл бұрын

tom boonen was dead at that moment

It should be pretty easy to estimate the power for the attack by comparing his time to one of the Strava segments and that rider's power and weight. It's so steep that the environmental variables are probably negligible. I can try but it might take me a while since I know nothing about that climb.

@mikehall6608

Ай бұрын

Have you figured it out yet?

Sapete dirmi che marca aveva di motore elettrico Cancellara...

Doped bike

how did he do that? unbelievable

This is at least suspicious. Boonen is dying on his bike meanwhile Cancellara pedals away easily.

@abone2pick

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah because he's a time trial specialist and has spend hundred of hours riding in that position

Didn’t know about motor in the bike could exist at that moment and as i was watching this i said to my self : how is he accelerating so fast with Boonen fighting with is bike , the rest is history!

De muur has to come back to the race!!!! Much more exciting.

It's very clear what he does at 2:37. The gradient gets steeper, Boonen starts to feel it, Cancellara changes down a gear, his cadence increases and he doesn't need to get out of the saddle.

@TheSteinbitt

5 жыл бұрын

Sean Gray cadence tend to increase when you shift down...

@MrBerndwiekema

4 жыл бұрын

Sean Gray you’re probably right. Cancellara was the strongest rider at that time. Not fair to accuse him of technical fraude.

@championthewonderhorse9733

3 жыл бұрын

At the vert moment Sean Kelly says that attacking sitting in the saddle is the best way to attack the climb too...

@ChuckD59

3 жыл бұрын

I've stepped through that part a couple times and I agree (but I do think there are better examples of pros and electric assist). Right through the 2:37 mark, if you go frame by frame, it's clear their cadences had been matched but C drops his right shoulder a bit and his cadence increases, just as would happen if one were to downshift. He's off the hook in my book, and a veritable monster.

My god what a performance. What a massive gap. Opened up in a matter of seconds.

Everything clear to see.....motor use. This bike doping really gets ridicolous.

"Prepare for LUDICROUS SPEED."

Was that the year Fabian won on ZIpp 303? Boonen seems still old fashioned on wheels at the time.

Sings: Things that make you go 'hmmmmmmm'

impossible de tourner les jambes comme ça !!!

@mcycliste2144

5 жыл бұрын

Exactement, j'habite à 10 bornes de Gramont. Et à cette endroit c'est totalement illogique que cancelara se met à faire du 100 t/m alors qu'avant il à une fréquence de 70. De plus il accélère comme une moto Boonen qui fait une très bonne montée est au sprint et de fait déposer. Et ce suisse traite ces détracteurs comme un certain Texan avant lui. Vivement le jour où un mécanicien balancera le morceau.

@remibazin4975

4 жыл бұрын

je ne sais pas ce qui a du se passer dans la tete de boonen.

@alfpacino2630

3 жыл бұрын

@@remibazin4975 la sensation d'avoir pris un coup de vieux!

@alfpacino2630

3 жыл бұрын

avec Froom, il forme la génération, j'attaque le cul sur la selle en pleine montée!

@maxsan4991

2 жыл бұрын

Meme pour un simple amateur de vélo, ca se voit a l'oeil nu que ce n'est pas credible. Boonen etait au top, il s'arrache sur sa machine pour essayer d'avancer tant bien que mal, et l'autre a coté assis sur sa selle qui lui met 20 mètres en l'espace de 60 metres.

Look the cancellara's right hand at 2:36.

That was bullshit. That gap was like 12 seconds after 20 seconds of racing. Boonen never cracked. Yeah, super suspicious.

Cancellara's bikes were quite particular ...

So in 60 seconds (give or take a few seconds) the guy pulled away around 250 meters, he's moving 4 meters PER SECOND FASTER than the other guy- in other words a good 9mph quicke- that's quite a big difference in speed.

@felicienbourdin840

6 жыл бұрын

TurboDally think twice about it ... if I have an advance of lets say 50meters at the end of the hill, during the time my opponent runs at low speed completing the hill, I go way faster than him on the flat/descent portion and when he reaches the top I could have 250meters of advance ! so do again your calculation takin this into account

@nicolasdelaforge7420

8 ай бұрын

It depends on the form of the riders. In another commentary, Cancellara was climbing just a tiny bit faster than the record holder on the hill, Naesen, who was not a star rider overall. So, if he were on the road that day, Cancellara would have had but a small margin on him. Perhaps Boonen was not at his best. There are so many considerations - who knows? But Cancellara had such immense power, this could have been the greatest week of his career.

Is this the race when Cancellara changed his bike 3-4 times? Wonder why!! The attack looks very unnatural given the fact that he must have produced well over 1000w sitting in the sadle.

@Alpenmagier

2 жыл бұрын

People just like to hate. Boonen himself was riding that part of the race faster then cancellara in the year before.

Oliver Naesen has the current Muur strava record at 2 minutes 50 during the binck banck tour when he was off peak. Here Boonen and cancellara hit the Muur at 20 seconds and boonen summits at around 3:25 which is around 3 minutes on boonens side. Not putting it past cancellara in his prime to have done 2:40ish then extended his gap in the downhill without a motor.

@nicolasdelaforge7420

8 ай бұрын

If your figures are right, this is the best analysis so far. Cancellara would have been much stronger than Naesen, and Boonen was actually slower than you would normally allow such a great rider. Great work.

2:35

Cancellara pioche déjà aux pied du mur dans la roue de Boonen et la différence est trop importante quand il attaque

I still remember watching this, screaming "BULLSHIT!"

Electrical motor Cancellara?

He starts the engine in the minute 2:18. The pedal changes completely.

@championthewonderhorse9733

3 жыл бұрын

Or he just changes down a gear to something lower...

@Bayo106

3 жыл бұрын

@@championthewonderhorse9733 lol right. these comments are so fucking stupid. Cancellara probably just had better gearing

Unreal.

Wow. You can see why folks think he was motorized. That little flick of the fingers of his right hand as he rode away at 2:37 was saying, "Bye, Tom!"

@henseleric

Жыл бұрын

Right, he downshifted into a lower gear, and rode away from a blown Boonen. Occam's Razor.

@musiccorner6377

Жыл бұрын

yes he turned his gear whot you see i think your on the dope

Phil Gaimon brought me here!

@aikman21

6 жыл бұрын

me 2 and if you look close on 2:53/4 you see the same handling being done like on 2:38/9 exactly the moment when he has the gap and is trough the steepest part of the Muur ... i know people can do extraordinary things but that far into a race like the tour off flanders and knowing he is easily doing it from the saddle places big question marks ... I always admired him as a person but his recent twitter war and the way he is doing it reminds me about a certain texan kid who also was yelling he wasn't doing something , nevertheless we will never know for sure what happend what we have seen :D

@TheSteinbitt

5 жыл бұрын

Yep, he tried to sell a book latching on to the coat tails of real cyclist and some idiots bought it...

i very hope that the uci will the muur take to the race it belongs back. here's a german friend of the muur, theres no ronde without it...

Again 2:38 what happens with the right hand?? Not a gear change but it is interesting in that year how before acceleration in Flanders and Roubaix he touches the same area on the bike.

@jameswillett118

5 жыл бұрын

Just doesn’t look right 🤔

After this ride, they added E-bike on Strava.

カンチェのアタック凄すぎ😊 ボーネンの名勝負数え歌ww

Did they have motors and batteries small enough to fit in the seat tube back in those days?

@christophermoyer6103

2 ай бұрын

Not off-the-shelf, but if one was willing to spend the bucks for something high-end and custom made, probably yes

@adityagupta101

2 ай бұрын

@@christophermoyer6103 very similar footage of one girl who cheated with motor in seat tube. She literally motored off on steep incline... However I reckon there is at least 10-15 years between the 2 incidents. So curious if the tech was as advanced back in the day

@christophermoyer6103

2 ай бұрын

@@adityagupta101 I agree it looks similar. And it stands to reason that FC, as one of the best cyclists in the world, would have access to cutting edge technology (including illicit methods of performance enhancement) significantly before lesser riders such as the Belgian cyclocrosser none of us had heard of until she got caught red-handed with a motorized bicycle The more I watch that clip of FC pulling away from Boonen, the more convinced I am that it's a case of cheating. Combine that with his numerous and unconventional bike changes and I think it's naive to believe that nothing illicit took place.

Had Cancellara an E-bike?🔋

The day of the motor 🛵

Is that Dave Harmon commentating with Kelly?

One of the *clearest* cases of motor doping of all time. 0:33 Cancellara hips and shoulders rocking significantly on the lower gradients of the first part of the climb 2:38 *remarkably* his cadence gets smoother and faster on the brutal section of the climb. Ever been passed by e bikes on steep hills? Thats exactly what it looks like. A smooth seated cadence with no rise in perceived effort versus the flat. It doesnt pass the eyeball test, it doesnt make sense physiologically and its basically borderline impossible. What an epic cheater!

@papalegba6796

9 күн бұрын

Watch his right hand just after 2:35 he switches the motor on I reckon. Froome does something similar on his impossible Ventoux attack.

@2011hwalker

9 күн бұрын

@@papalegba6796 Yes, definitely at the same time the pedals start 'whirring'

miss Dave Harmon so much

Why doesn’t someone do a theoretical calculation on the amount of power put down by Cancellara? It would show that 30 seconds gap on Boonen is impossible.

@JumpingWatermelons

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah. Either Specialized or Team Saxo bank did release some of Fabian's power data from that day. The max power was 1,450 watts, presumably duing that attack.

@abone2pick

2 жыл бұрын

Cancellaras time up that hill isn't even the fastest . I think the Kom up that hill is like 3 seconds faster than what cancellara did.

C'est bien Spart'accu son surnom ?

@tbcyable

3 жыл бұрын

"Spark Plug" accu

Fabian Cancellectric

Check out Cancellara's right hand at 2:37 ... ;)

@Lepercurtidoo

3 жыл бұрын

First time you assume something of someone you don't know ? Guess not, i am cycling 42y straight now ...

Amazing climb and E -bike 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

Motor in the frame

1450w? Which brand is his bike's engine? 😂

Right hand at 2:37...nun said!

@Juan0003

6 жыл бұрын

2:43 Bonnen does the same. What nun?

@ahhhhhhhDestroyed

6 жыл бұрын

Ever riden a bike? he changed gear.

@championthewonderhorse9733

3 жыл бұрын

Literally the moment Sean Kelly says the best way to attack the climb is sitting in the saddle and Cancellara does just that...

On lui a toujours pas retiré ses titres au motard suisse ?

Ghost in the machine

Cancelara 100 rpm in Gramont 😂

Y a pas à dire c'est efficace le moteur !!!!!!

He turned up gas alright

There's far more convincing evidence elsewhere in cycling of mechanical "doping" (Hesjedal). I see the tactic of burning up Boonen in the first part, forcing him to lead for a bit then crushing him on the final part. And I see Cancellara shifting up as he launches his attack, nothing more. He is a beast, no question.

@MortalShowdown That could be a good explanation

Cancelara.was working harder in the beginning of the climb the he was on the steep part while attacking.

Lithium Cancellara ????

Cancellara had a smaller gear - that's huge, and if they were equal, Cancellara would have won because of it. But they were not equal, Cancellara was, a this time, better.

Sadly you'll never see a better example of motor doping.

@Michael-hm8cs

2 ай бұрын

Froome in every single one of his TDF wins

@Bad_Gnasher

2 ай бұрын

@@Michael-hm8cs got a link?

@papalegba6796

9 күн бұрын

@@Michael-hm8cs yeah froome was blatant in retrospect.

Cancellara.. bike strip down would be interesting...

Motor engin worked well.

He was turning the gas Ho yes

it was not for nothing that he had a mechanical groupet the bateri and the engine would not have entered the vertical tube, which more is obliged to mounted sitting in the wall if the wheel sliding

Look at his left hand at 2.37 min.

No matter how good you are, if you put in a sudden acceleration on a steep upslope on the cobbles, the bike will sway. I have no idea how Cancellara violated basic laws of physics here.

@DolleHengst

4 жыл бұрын

Cancellara weighed 90kg. On a steep climb, with a seated rider, most of that weight will rest on the rear axle, giving the rear wheel extra traction. And a higher cadence gives a rider more control over the bike.

@Bayo106

3 жыл бұрын

you obviously know nothing about cycling.

Cancellara with E-Bike

He made that gap in seconds, whilst Boonen was still going pretty quickly, not possible with out a motor.

@reneflippe3286

Жыл бұрын

Can you prove ? If not sh1t up !

@musiccorner6377

Жыл бұрын

whahhaha whot a idiots in this world , you boonen struggled meter by meter in the and to get ont top

nice motor

2:35 he turns on the motor. There is no way he puts a gap in like that on a rider like Boonen, cramps or no cramps. This is not natural. There is no way to push that kind of wattage, it's physically impossible. Not to mention just watching the video, it's obvious. Cancellara did this too many times, unbelievable he was never caught.

@matthiasrichter3112

4 жыл бұрын

Indeed, with his right hand. We can see it on the movie.

@serdiezv

3 жыл бұрын

@@matthiasrichter3112 That's just shifting, if they never caught him, with the suspicion being there it means he wasn't cheating

@Bayo106

3 жыл бұрын

@@serdiezv this

That is a f*cking shame. 100% motor

The unfamous hidden motor!

There is no proof that he used mechanical doping. But I can't believe that Bonen couldn't answer Cancellara. They had been riding together and for one moment Cancellara said good-bye. Sitting on the saddle by the way... That was very strange. I like Spartacus and I don't want to believe that his victory was unfair.

Motor dope bike used by cancellara just analyse the rpm and speed.

I bought it then as a massive Cancellara fan. Today? Not so much. I've watched a lot of RvV since and this just looks unnatural.