Canada is BURNING & Covering the World in Smoke

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The Canadian Wildfires have been international news, as smoke has billowed across neighboring countries and even across oceans. But there's SO much controversy, and debate that this deserved a deeper dive. Plus there's SO much more to this story, and unfortunately, it might only be getting started. So how bad can they get, and what impact will it have on us this summer? Let's dive in deep, and figure this out together!
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Chapters
0:00 - Introduction
0:52 - How they started
6:12 - Conspiracy Theories
10:16 - How Bad are they?
15:40 - Why it's happening
17:24 - Air Quality
19:05 - What Happens Next?
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  • @TwoBitDaVinci
    @TwoBitDaVinci Жыл бұрын

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  • @chonky2129

    @chonky2129

    Жыл бұрын

    In my line of work, we have investigators and crews sent out to scout origin. I know it sounds crazy to look for a lightning struck tree in what is essentially a continent sized forest but often times, we can find the exact tree/s in which a particular fire started from. What I'm saying is, they will find some of these origins. Also, fire can burn and smolder in root systems underground with little oxygen, for days. (just some extra info)

  • @riznliz

    @riznliz

    Жыл бұрын

    Drone Fire Fighting Night & Day -- Set up in a bucket brigade format from water source to fire line to continuously drop water on or in front of fire line. few thousand drones needed for operation.

  • @MirceaKitsune

    @MirceaKitsune

    Жыл бұрын

    Just saying: If you're a psychopath in a position of power looking to set a country on fire, saying "let's do a controlled burn since that will save us from a fire in the future" is the perfect cover to commit legal arson and call everyone who suspects you a conspiracy theorist that's too stupid to know how the world works instead of listening to -our- the experts.

  • @ricksmall5240

    @ricksmall5240

    Жыл бұрын

    Da Vinci, everyone is missing why wildfires are becoming more explosive, its simple physics and its called the ignition temperature, the warmer it get, the warmer the mass and the closer to its ignition point, which also means that it takes less radiant heat from the fires to cause ignition further away

  • @smgdfcmfah

    @smgdfcmfah

    Жыл бұрын

    Sorry but at the end of the video you talk about forest management, creating "roads" and breaks, cutting undergrowth and dead fall... I don't think you have any comprehension of the vastness of the forests you're talking about. You can drive for days, thousands of kilometers, along the most northern routes across Ontario and Quebec alone and you're still only seeing a tiny fraction of forest (what's visible from the road). Forest management is fine in small doses around where we live, but 99% of it is barely accessible and way too vast to manage. Do what we can to keep humans from making it worse and let nature run it's course.

  • @katnero-campbell6393
    @katnero-campbell6393 Жыл бұрын

    My brother has been operating a caterpillar fighting forest fires for the past coupe of months. He has worked with Amercans, Aussies New Zealanders, etc. In order to save an area near Edson, they had to work a 35 hour shift, they had brought lunch, however due to the severity of the fire, roads were closed, and there was no way to get them additional food. We thank everyone from every where for their help in our battle!

  • @claudiaCLO21

    @claudiaCLO21

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks to your brother for his amazing work. Our prayers are with your family.

  • @user-ts7ns7bt2v

    @user-ts7ns7bt2v

    Жыл бұрын

    @@betterlife3574 not vaxed?

  • @DanaVastman

    @DanaVastman

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@betterlife3574You sound MAGA to me🙄

  • @betterlife3574

    @betterlife3574

    Жыл бұрын

    @@DanaVastman for sharing real stories? That was deep, any interesting thoughts you'd like to share today?

  • @eligebrown8998

    @eligebrown8998

    Жыл бұрын

    Been there done that twice. A long as there is a safe place where the fire can't get to you being without drinking water is the worst. Hopefully everybody makes it home safe.

  • @thebigpicture2032
    @thebigpicture2032 Жыл бұрын

    From Coastal BC, it’s been an extraordinarily dry summer and we still have months to go. It’s frightening watching the forests dry out as we have a couple more months with no rain forecast. A sincere Thanks to all the fire fighters! A side note is that often the burnt wood can be logged. My brother bought a piece of land after the fire went through the Kettle Valley and built his house and shop from the burned trees. Inside the wood was good. Surprisingly, some of the trees even revived despite looking like crispy telephone poles.

  • @funnyfarm5555

    @funnyfarm5555

    Жыл бұрын

    Commercial lumber mills don't like the burnt logs as they are really hard on their sawing equipment. There is an attachment that can be put on smaller portable sawmills that scrapes off the burned material where the saw runs. Can't remember the guys name, he lives in Oregon and he saws a lot of salvage logs on his KZread channel. Perhaps they will come up with a similar item for commercial mills.

  • @misspelledgod4003
    @misspelledgod4003 Жыл бұрын

    Canuck here, I think one really important fact that we forget and we should take advantage of is that the indigenous people had a good deal of experience, tending to areas and preventing serious fires from encroaching where they stayed. I think we have a lot of wisdom to learn from their techniques, history and elders.

  • @annsumner8570

    @annsumner8570

    Жыл бұрын

    No matter what, forests burn when they are set on fire.

  • @lizannewhitlow1085

    @lizannewhitlow1085

    Жыл бұрын

    Indigenous wisdom is sacred knowledge.

  • @anonymousxish

    @anonymousxish

    Жыл бұрын

    had a conversation with an idiot. his family came on the mayflower.Sent to north america.Well he was not making some bodies daughter happy.i have to watch idiocracy the move.Before i start ending some idiots.ya sure free trip to visit the titanic. Is jimmy hofffa there

  • @steveeddy6876

    @steveeddy6876

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes 2nd and 3rd growth trees are just match sticks they are not fire or drought resistant like the old growth Forrest the Problem is Human stupidity in Forrestry

  • @jackpleb2360

    @jackpleb2360

    Жыл бұрын

    The indigenous had an inferior culture and could not compete. Now they compete for victimhood status. What wisdom? Lol. Lmao, even.

  • @YoutubeBorkedMyOldHandle_why
    @YoutubeBorkedMyOldHandle_why Жыл бұрын

    I live in eastern Ontario close to the Quebec border. One thing that fascinates me every year, is how rapidly we transition from winter to summer. This year for example, at the beginning of April we had an ice storm (very annoying) which caused a huge power failure and flooding. At the time I still had close to a foot of rapidly melting snow in my yard, a lot of mud patches, and a lot of bare tees. Less than 3 weeks later, we had summer-like temperatures, grass urgently in need of cutting, and trees covered in leaves. Fires cannot start until winter subsides and the forests are dry but, my point is, this happens over a very short period of time. This is undoubtedly caused by a quick movement of the jet stream, that people south of the border may not fully appreciate, and which gives the appearance of everything happening all at once.

  • @ChrisZoomER

    @ChrisZoomER

    Жыл бұрын

    Woah...

  • @3tapsnu0ut87

    @3tapsnu0ut87

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ChrisZoomER I've noticed this in NZ too. the ground dries out so fast the stock don't get chance to even out the hoof pocked land before it does. It's very rough to walk on all summer.

  • @WebVid

    @WebVid

    11 ай бұрын

    I was born in the late 50s and live in central Canada. I remember spring and fall seasons being much more distinct, and longer lasting back in my youth.

  • @russellbabin6252
    @russellbabin6252 Жыл бұрын

    The one thing that is overlooked is that fire firing equipment got better about 20 -40 years ago. Every time a fire starts it keeps getting put out faster and faster. From 10 to 40 years ago the amount of forest that we saved is greater than over 40 years ago. This means some areas have 40 years of undergrowth and combustibles built up that has never been there in recorded history. This is all extra fuel for the fires. The better our fire fighting equipment gets the more stuff collects at base of trees. Eventually no matter how Good our equipment gets we will loose against nature.

  • @Nphen

    @Nphen

    Жыл бұрын

    @Dusty-twobit-Bottoms This speaks to the need for a massive labor force out in the woods, bringing out usable lumber & clearing brush, doing small controlled burns, and not under profit motive. No one wants to "talk politics" but indie progressives have been calling for a WPA or CCC style work program since before the 2008 crisis put so many people out of jobs and carelessly wasted hundreds of thousands of homes to utility shutoffs & foreclosure. Extreme profit mongering has destroyed so much over the decades even as companies invent miracle tech. We need balance. Imagine a fraction of military spending put into firefighting, too. Then replanting. Spend now or burn more later.

  • @timcat1004

    @timcat1004

    Жыл бұрын

    I've been saying that for decades. We should be just letting mother nature do its thing. And concentrate our efforts into protecting property. Also ban the building of new structures in heavily forested areas.

  • @user-eg8hb8xt3j

    @user-eg8hb8xt3j

    Жыл бұрын

    That’s right ! Fires are natural and the forests replenish because of them . Human intervention from all these years has set us up for this

  • @oakld

    @oakld

    Жыл бұрын

    I don't think most people reading this comment even get what exactly this means and how serious the problem is... It might look more like a joke to some, but it's basically true. The only thing is, that we've been breaking the nature way more than 40 years.

  • @TraditionalAnglican

    @TraditionalAnglican

    Жыл бұрын

    I think we could accomplish a lot of this could be improved by removing dead trees & thinning or removing dried & drying underbrush! Goats are very effective at clearing underbrush… Doing those will make firebreaks more effective at clearing underbrush!

  • @OneWhoWas
    @OneWhoWas Жыл бұрын

    I think the other issues that's a great concern is the reignition from fires that get into peat deposits underground. They can easily burn for months, and peat moss is common in Canadian boreal forests.

  • @JCSPARX
    @JCSPARX Жыл бұрын

    I am in Alberta, this is the first video I have watched of yours. You have done a better job explaining this situation than ALL CANADIAN MEDIA!! THANKYOU THANKYOU THANKYOU!! WONDERFUL JOB!! LOVE THE STATS!! Greetings from Canada🇨🇦

  • @user-dm6il7gp4e
    @user-dm6il7gp4e Жыл бұрын

    As a forester who worked in the woods and fought fires from time to time over 40 years, I saw fire size and duration grow. Fire ignition 40 years ago was 80% lightning caused. Now fire ignition is about 80% human caused. The largest factor is fuel built up then major changes in forest vegetative elements. These elements are often invasive grasses, brush and dense timber stands that carry fire. In Idaho, forests are out of balance in species distribution due to, " high grade", timber harvest going back for many years. For a variety of reasons quality forest management has lagged, (warning; the opinion of an old retired guy). Climate change has resulted in extended fire seasons in many forest eco-systems. I wish I could be more positive about the problems but I doubt that people are ready to do the hard and expensive things it will take to bring some balance to wildland fire management.

  • @AdaptiveApeHybrid

    @AdaptiveApeHybrid

    Жыл бұрын

    I have low hopes too lol

  • @BrothaJeff

    @BrothaJeff

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah RCMP is investigating the fires in BC and most of them were intentionally caused...

  • @chucktapp1973

    @chucktapp1973

    Жыл бұрын

    New research studying carbon shows forest fires were stronger and more damaging 200 yrs ago before there were fire reports and records, so this may be the worst year since records were kept, but it was much worse many years ago.

  • @alishawn1

    @alishawn1

    Жыл бұрын

    40 years as Forester great why in the 90s there was no fire but when the 2000s came suddenly forest fire get up year after year

  • @TheCommonS3Nse

    @TheCommonS3Nse

    Жыл бұрын

    @@BrothaJeff I think there is a significant difference between “human caused” and “intentional”. I have no doubt that a bunch of these fires could have been caused by humans, but I would believe that it has more to do with negligence than intentional destruction. Many people in rural areas burn their brush in the spring. It accumulates over the winter as snow and ice break off branches and knock down trees. The spring is usually a good time to burn all of this debris. But people may not have been aware of just how dry it had been, and they may have started a small brush fire not knowing that it would grow out of control. That is not the same thing as intentionally starting these fires. I think if you’re going to claim intentionality then you better have some strong evidence to support that. I haven’t seen any of that evidence, only certain sources saying that a high percentage of these fires were caused by humans, which doesn’t give any indication that there was intention involved.

  • @jeffgood2394
    @jeffgood2394 Жыл бұрын

    It's also worth noting that the shape of the jet stream in May was a big factor. An atypical "Omega block" of high pressure was in place over central US and Canada. This one pulled hot air far North into Canada, then blew the smoke Southeast into the US. Under a more typical jet stream smoke from Canadian fires mostly blow over sparsely populated areas or out to sea.

  • @RealBradMiller

    @RealBradMiller

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@HandleandgredleYup! 😂

  • @flyaway1470

    @flyaway1470

    Жыл бұрын

    Don't be scared, be prepared! 😎

  • @RealBradMiller

    @RealBradMiller

    Жыл бұрын

    @@flyaway1470 We can be a little scared, as a treat. 🍬

  • @annsumner8570

    @annsumner8570

    Жыл бұрын

    I saw very strange ones in May, different than any I have ever seen.

  • @BlueBonnie764

    @BlueBonnie764

    Жыл бұрын

    Buffalo here, thanx for sharing,⚡🔥🔥🔥lol

  • @whoever6458
    @whoever6458 Жыл бұрын

    So, in my 20s and 30s, I was a firefighter here in California. After I started having issues with heat illness, I had to retire so I went back to school and became a biologist. That's my experience just for some context as to why I might have at least a little insight into these things. The problem is humans, not only that we accidentally and sometimes intentionally start fires, but that we have built our houses in the way of where fire would naturally burn every so often before there we came in and built our houses. Of course we can't just up and move away from anything that could catch on fire because, at some point, everything is flammable. So the best thing we can do is prevent fires from burning near our homes. We can do this by clearing out dead trees and dry brush from our house since the main way we put wild fires out in the fire department is by basically clearing out all the vegetation to a certain width depending on the height of the vegetation burning and the strength of the wind. If I'm remembering correctly, you clear a width of 1.5 times the height of the vegetation on the burning side of the line (or where you want to stop a fire if it's coming towards your house) and this is in calm winds. If you get strong winds and especially if you are clearing a space around your house, well wider is always better. If you do have trees on your property, don't just automatically cut them down to avoid them catching on fire unless they're dead. Do cut dead branches and low branches on the tree so that even if the grass in the area is on fire, it will probably go out before it gets hot enough to set your living tree on fire. Anyway, we put wild fires out by starting at the heel of the fire, which is where the fire started and build these fire lines on both sides of the fire, eventually performing a pincer maneuver to prevent the fire from continuing to spread since we've cut off all the new stuff to burn in front of it. Then, it goes out on its own but we also help it go out and make sure it's out using water or burying it with dirt. It is so hard to put a wild fire out because, as you can imagine, the fire can burn a lot faster than we can do a bunch of yard work in the way of clearing a fire line. This is why things like bulldozers help a lot. Then the air drops of retardant slow the spread of the fire to help us catch up and, at least in my experience, the water drops from smaller aircraft are to tamp down flames in the area so we can pass through, say, with more water for the engines on scene and that's why the fire department owns some water trucks because fire will start wherever it wants whether there's a hydrant nearby or not. This is also why the main way we put out wild fires is not with water but with containment. If you make a fire line around your house, it is much more likely to survive if and when a wild fire burns through the area and, when firefighters assigned to protect people's homes in the event of a fire burning towards them, if we see such a nice fire line, best believe we're going to park the engine in your driveway and fight the fire from there because it's the safest spot to do so. So, on the biological side, fire has been burning through since long before humans were around and there are quite a number of plants that actually benefit from fire burning through every so often. There are some pine trees that won't release their seeds unless the pine cones have caught fire. There are other plants whose seeds won't sprout until water that has passed through ash from a fire gets to them as a strategy to sprout when it is the least likely that another plant will be blocking their access to sunlight. Ash from fires also enriches the soil in an area with needed nutrients and it a natural way to clear out dead trees and other plants. One of the things that causes these unusually big fires, in addition to the fact that we're heating up our entire planet like crazy, is when there is a winter with an above average amount of rain so that lots of plants start growing only to dry out and die when the summer heat comes. This means there is more dry vegetation and at some point somewhere, it will eventually take a spark and start on fire. There's really not a realistic way to go through every part of wild land and clear all of it out, which is why it makes sense to clear it out near where people live and to have prescribed burns at times when it isn't very hot and it isn't windy. The people who light these fires have extensive training in what the safest way to light either a back fire or a controlled burn is and the vast majority of fire fighters are not authorized to light such fires. Prescribed burns are probably the most efficient way to get rid of a a lot of dead vegetation because it piles up and is therefore more likely to set the nearby trees on fire, which is when you get a really bad wild fire. Probably the only controlled burns that people hear about are the very few that get out of control and perhaps ones nearby one's house if one checks to see what's going on there. Lots and lots of these prescribed burns happen each year without a hitch. So that's what I know and I hope it helps people protect their homes as much as they can from the potential of a wild fire.

  • @TheCommonS3Nse

    @TheCommonS3Nse

    Жыл бұрын

    I think one of the hardest things about this is that a lot of the human caused fires could have legitimately been caused by people burning their brush in the spring. It usually isn’t an issue because the spring is still kind of cold and wet, but the hot and dry conditions means that these brush fires can easily get out of control. I think it’s so important to burn safely and have lots of water on hand in case things get out of control. I’ve literally had a small island I was camping on start burning out of control due to heat from our fire pit spreading out underground. It can happen very quickly, and it’s very difficult to put that genie back in the bottle once it starts burning.

  • @tyrantalert321
    @tyrantalert321 Жыл бұрын

    I live in bc, and this is one of the worst ever I see water bombers going out every 20 min. I'm so glad that Mexico,Australia, and the usa and other countries that are here helping as right now we need all the help we can get. It's so hard to breathe and eyes are buring from all the fires please have your prayers and thoughts for us thank you all the firefighters be safe and come home to your families

  • @stevesirois1330

    @stevesirois1330

    Жыл бұрын

    I personally think that 2007 and 2010 were worse in South bc , Kelowna area than this yr but that's just my opinion 🤷

  • @westzed23

    @westzed23

    Жыл бұрын

    I live in Alberta and want to thank all the firefighters from around the world that have come to help. This year the fires started early in Alberta. This was before any spring greening of plants had begun, so it was very dry because the wind had melted any snow. The fires started in several places and our local resources of equipment and people were overwhelmed. So thank you to everyone who is giving support.

  • @HollyTimlick-du2zx

    @HollyTimlick-du2zx

    Жыл бұрын

    My man and I wish we could help out, but our health is not in the best of shape to help. We are in the D of michigan 🇺🇸, all of you are in our prayers that you come out victorious. We ❤ Canada, and wish, hope, and pray that all of you are safe. ✌❤, and lots of prayers from the 🇺🇸 to Canada..... Greatest friends to the great North... God bless Canada, and god bless the 🇺🇸

  • @westzed23

    @westzed23

    Жыл бұрын

    @@HollyTimlick-du2zx Thank you so much to think of us. You are a dear.

  • @HollyTimlick-du2zx

    @HollyTimlick-du2zx

    Жыл бұрын

    @@westzed23 very welcome. 🍻🍻

  • @hancockak47
    @hancockak47 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for your report, I am from Alberta Canada, and survived the 2003 lost creek fire in the Crows Nest Pass Ab. Loggers were able to haul out trees for two years after the fire for lumber, taking them to Spray Lakes Lumber in Cochrane Ab. to be cut into lumber.

  • @bradb7342

    @bradb7342

    Жыл бұрын

    Survived? Lol

  • @cdawnd1672
    @cdawnd1672 Жыл бұрын

    I live in Canada. You might want to know that 3/4 of these wildfires were manmade. Lightning causes about 2% of our wildfires.

  • @robvannNS

    @robvannNS

    Жыл бұрын

    Yup..the biggest fire in NS started by kids burning tires.

  • @betterlife3574

    @betterlife3574

    Жыл бұрын

    And here's another 'conspiracy' fact: the retired Canadian firemen offered their services to the Canadian government and they received a NO, THANKS. What the hell is going on? Qui bono?

  • @PG-3462

    @PG-3462

    Жыл бұрын

    All the fires in Québec started on June 1st after we had somme massive thunderstorms which occured after the warmest and driest month of May on record

  • @Paladiea

    @Paladiea

    Жыл бұрын

    That's true every year.

  • @flightmaster999

    @flightmaster999

    Жыл бұрын

    Nope, that's just not true. Lightning causes a lot of wildfires. Just look at the fires in northern Quebec, no one lives in these very remote places.

  • @dvanremortel
    @dvanremortel Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for doing this video, many Canadians believe there are many other factors to the starting of these fires, the rate which they have burned at and the ability to manage and suppress these fires. Not just “how did the fires start”

  • @SRWill64

    @SRWill64

    Жыл бұрын

    If you want to see another area with a history of wildfires burning out of control for long periods of time, look up the Tillamook Burn. They had to figure out how to get that area where is wasn't so susceptible to burning because you can't control the wind through there. They had to take other measures.

  • @sid7088

    @sid7088

    Жыл бұрын

    You must live down south, take it from a northern Ontario guy, they happen every year.

  • @dvanremortel

    @dvanremortel

    Жыл бұрын

    Ret CDN army here, I agree they happen yearly. Been in Northern Ont and seen them. This year's situation IMO demonstrated more than a natural occurrence.

  • @wesblood3620

    @wesblood3620

    11 ай бұрын

    Sid, you so right. People just don't understand how vast these areas are. I live in British Columbia, most of these fires are 100's of miles away from the closest road.

  • @Myxril
    @Myxril Жыл бұрын

    I was working at a golf course a couple decades ago, where some random golfer decided to discard his lit cigar into a swale (typically dry, acted as a micro-creek when it rained a lot) that bordered the course and a adjacent farm. It turned out that the soil was peat moss and ended up catching fire, but underground. Another worker and I were the only people out in that area sometime later when I noticed a tiny stream of smoke. I investigated, realized the ground was on fire, took a 3 minute golf cart trip back to the groundskeeping barn to inform the head groundskeeper, and about 8 minutes later we were all out there with 2 pumps drawing from a nearby creek and spraying a absolute shitload of water onto this fire (from a 4" line). I watched the ground literally open up and shoot flames nearly 15 feet high. I'd drown the hole and move to the next, but it'd already be flaming again before I put the next one out. I don't know how much time passed, but out of nowhere there were a bunch of different fire departments arriving and directing us away from the area while a small group of helicopters took turns doing fly-by's as they poured huge tanks of water onto it. It took forever to get it under control and ultimately (presumably) extinguished entirely. All because some idiot decided to throw his lit cigar into a ditch, instead of just snubbing it and taking it with him to put in a garbage can like a normal person (ironically, there was a small garbage can about 100ft away, which he would have encountered immediately after finishing the hole he was playing).

  • @gmusick3859
    @gmusick3859 Жыл бұрын

    Really well done and full of factual information. Thank you! You are quickly becoming one of my favorite KZreadrs.

  • @HyperCircle
    @HyperCircle Жыл бұрын

    Environmental Scientist Here. I used to work for the Forest Service. You're pretty much spot on, only i would have added the concepts of Relative Humidity and Fuel Loads. As we continue to prevent wildfires from occurring, the fuel loads continue to increase. The taller the fuels, the more likely they will get into the canopy and thus evolving into a fire that will kill large legacy trees that would otherwise have survived. The perfect solution is to do bottom up thinnings (where you remove all of the smaller diameter, leaving most of the larger diameter), but they are expensive, and many fundamentalist environmental extremist groups use all sorts of legal tactics to prevent that (their view is to let it all burn). Also, congress was supposed to give the FS money to thin a lot of the plantations from the 60' 70' 80' 90's, but they didn't, so they grew too dense and are now density locked and ready to burn. It's a combination of bad management in the past with a total swing to the other side with inability to do bottom up thining (which is a monumental task, legal sabotage aside). Thus, enter controlled burns. Knowing that the ongoing accumulation of fuels is a ticking time bomb - eventually it WILL burn, and severely so - we attempt to introduce controlled fires in the shoulder seasons. Don't do it, and it will burn at some point in the middle of the season, or burn it now and hope that the weather doesn't screw up your plans. Yes, there is risk, but understand this: that land WILL HAVE BURNED eventually. So saying "they caused the fire" is nonsense. They are attempting to reduce fuel in a controlled manner so that firest don't rage uncontrolled after lighting storms in the middle of the fire season, where they would burn hotter and faster. And that brings me to the next concept. Relative Humidity (RH). That's what causes forest to burn. Humidity prevents fires. Dry air dries fuels -fast - making them suceptible to ignition sources. Yes, you need an ignition, but when you have low RH, you could fart and it would cause a forest fire, figuratively speaking. Enter Climate change, which exasterbates existing natural patterns so that they become more extreme and then you have lightning strikes and Human stupidity (fireworks, cigarrets, raging campfires, arson, etc) you now have a serious problem because of the extremely low RH. Plus a lot of fuels. And of course, this goes back to Climate Change. Yes, there are natural paterns at play, of course, but Climate Change has tipped the scales towards lower RH worldwide. I love that people that can't handle the reality of Climate Change come up with all sorts of excuses, but the reality the last 23 years have been the hottest 23 years in recorded history, EVEN CONSIDERING we had 3 consecutive la niñas. Dry winds with low RH can turn a forest that was recently rained on into a crisp in 2-4 days. I've seen it. It is incredible, it is dangerous, and it's the reason that so many fires started. Lighting with a high RH isn't a big deal. Even with lots of fuels. But low RH? it's like having a hair dryer on all the fuels. And the number one contributor to such low RHs is climate change, which makes extremes more extremes but in particular by increasing temperatures and thus lowing the RH more and more, and apparently, sometimes when things line up, incredibly early. So take off your tin hats, and get your N95 masks. in 2017 in my forest in Oregon i didn't see the sun the entire summer. The smoke will make you lethargic beyond belief. The maks are worth it. But after not seeing the sun all summer long, that's when i realized, oh snap, this is only going to keep getting worse. We're at an average of 422ppm of CO2 (up from 300ppm pre industry). Going up by 2.2ppm each year. And the amound of CO2 we are releasing from these forests is going to increase. It's like we don't give a f. That's not even getting into the absurd amounts of Methane stored in the permafrost; enough to increase Methane some 500+x. Mind mumbing numbers. We need to remove fuels. Fast. Bottom up thinnings work. You leave most of the largest trees and remove everything else. You then reintroduce fire on a 5 to 10 year rotation. or we just let everything roast, kill everything, and let it reset. I guess that works too. Irony is the "environmental fundamentalists" that don't let us do bottom up thinnings because "there are animals in there", ignore that "no-action alternative" leads to wildfires that will destroy everything. We can mitigate. Bottom up thinnings work. But whatever. The system is mostly dominated by politics and legalese, not science. So i guess we just let everything go to hell. That's part of why i left the FS. I loved the mission, but sadly politics dominates management, with groups lying to the public to get attention and thus funding, so they can continue their smear campaign and legal attack on every project, preventing or seriously delaying management. I didn't want to see the slow destruction of the forests i loved nor deal with the absolute legal-political nonsense.

  • @yannirugby

    @yannirugby

    Жыл бұрын

    Thing is we don’t have the same amount of legal challenges in Canada. We do have humongous forested areas in very thinly populated areas, and a very small population across the country. There are some groups trying to save old groves, but for 99% of the forest fires we are seeing, it is not at play. Most people understand that forest fires are part of life here, maybe not this intense tho. I know it’s the big “no no” for you but climate change is 100% at play here, and that is not political! It is 100% scientific. The only people who scream politics are those who don’t believe in it. If you see a gigantic train going towards you, you can deny its existence all you want but it will still kill you if you don’t move away from it.

  • @kelrogers8480

    @kelrogers8480

    Жыл бұрын

    @@yannirugby yet you yourself cherry pick "the science" (oh no , that abused phrase again). There are those of us who also read "The science" who fundamentally disagree with you! And politics, sadly, is a huge part of "the science", and those two bed mates aren't parting ways for the foreseeable future! You are guilty of the very myopia you accuse others of!

  • @davedemyan3302

    @davedemyan3302

    Жыл бұрын

    Every forest is different and requires people on the ground with an understanding and incentive to attempt to create sustainable forest conditions. Thinning from below in a stand with 100% dwarf mistletoe infection rate doesn't work. Having a mosaic of multi aged and multi species stands consisting of single, clusters, clumps and groups of trees interspersed with clearings, has the best chance of maintaining tree vitality, minimizing pathogenic insect outbreaks with a minimal risk of stand replacement during fire events in western North American dry inland forests. Except for aspen stands where hot stand replacing burns or clearcutting renew and invigorate.

  • @jay_fruit

    @jay_fruit

    Жыл бұрын

    Climit change is a hoxe. Oprah and JFK Jr. inventid it in 2000 to trick us into waring masks so that they can distract us and then we don't notice that there building a secrit base on the moon for the elites to hide all the dinosaurs that they reverse DNA bioengineered. They startid the wild fires by dipping squirls in diesel fuel then shooting bottle rockets at them then let them run through the forest. The reasin they startid the fires was to make the smoke so that at nite we woodint be able to see the moon base construction project (there bilding the pools now, it's easy to see if you just use a home made telescope you can build from empty beer bottles or the better version uses a kids kaleidoscope and seran wrap.) This is why I won't leave from inside my Faraday cage.

  • @jackpleb2360

    @jackpleb2360

    Жыл бұрын

    Manmade climate is not real. The last 23 years have not been the hottest. These are outright lies. Imagine being this dishonest.

  • @fayebird1808
    @fayebird1808 Жыл бұрын

    The northern areas of Canada have no roads, Ricky. You don't go for a car ride beside Hudson's Bay . It's hard to fight a fire without a pumper . Planes are the only way , formidable logistics. Distance is another factor. These fires are burning 500 miles away ,or more ,from infrastructure. Its an overwhelming situation when there are hundreds of fires. Sorry about our smoke.🚒

  • @gerryrozema8338

    @gerryrozema8338

    Жыл бұрын

    Airfields without roads are no help as you can’t truck in the fuel and retardant needed by the air attack folks. I spent a few years doing detection in northern bc during the early 80s. We plotted all lightning strikes in our district and saw some flare up as much as a month later. The other thing many don’t understand is those huge hot fire will often smolder all winter and flare up again as soon as things dry out in the summer. Another detail many don’t comprehend when they say we should just get them while still small and manageable is just how fast they can grow. I remember clearly one we spotted from the air in 83, it was just a pinpoint smoke in the middle of nowhere so we called for an air attack high priority. Tankers already in the air were diverted and arrived on scene within 20 minutes, fire was reported to be 40 acres crowning and running by the time they got there. By sunset it was over a thousand acres.

  • @XAlpineSuptDN

    @XAlpineSuptDN

    Жыл бұрын

    That’s why Canadian firefighters use a lot of dozers and excavators to create “roads” and then they burnout from those barriers.

  • @direbearcoat7551
    @direbearcoat7551 Жыл бұрын

    You neglected to mention the extreme lack of forest management that seems to have be in vogue since the early 2000s. In California, for example, our worst fires burned so out of control that the fire services couldn't prevent them from wiping out towns and suburbs. A very hard look needs to be given that particular practice of not clearing the dead wood and clearing the brush, and cutting down some of the trees to thin the forests a little bit.

  • @markjones8958

    @markjones8958

    Жыл бұрын

    Agree. Oregon has same issues. Since logging has been reduced in some areas, this has allowed over-growth of bushes and smaller trees that typically die off and provide fuel. Also with logging reduced, the roads that companies put in and maintained are disappearing, which reduces access and fire breaks. Very complicated issue.

  • @jsmmacdld3519

    @jsmmacdld3519

    Жыл бұрын

    Trouble is Canada has so much thick boreal forests you can't even get to and it's all mature thick dry soft woods stands 70 to 80 ft high and there was a new beetle that migrated up hear they kill spruce and any soft woods with moss floor so some are started by carelessness but most are lightning caused they strike and burn under ground for days before surfacing I was ff and I said in another comment you can't fight these fires when you have a walk70 ft high you can't get close to it even water bombers it's useless spruce burns so hot it all evaporates

  • @scottmcintyre203
    @scottmcintyre203 Жыл бұрын

    Thank You for the info, enjoy what you do, hope more and more people find you...

  • @IdrisFashan
    @IdrisFashan Жыл бұрын

    One of the most overlooked aspects to boreal forests is that unlike temperate forests, boreal forest floor is peat. Our fires can start and burn underground for months, even years. The fires in the north, like the one in Fort McMurray years ago (called The Beast) burned for 18 months in Athabasca peat bog. Our forests have an entire ecosystem beneath the trees that touch the permafrost, and now that the frost isn’t coming back, a little lightning goes a very long way… 😢

  • @IdrisFashan

    @IdrisFashan

    Жыл бұрын

    For the record, I’m in northern Alberta and have seen the fires from the west end of our city. It’s been frightening. I also saw the South African firefighting troops last week. ❤

  • @donovanjones4175

    @donovanjones4175

    Жыл бұрын

    Same in Nova Scotia, peat burns forever.

  • @fractuss

    @fractuss

    Жыл бұрын

    @@IdrisFashan South African troops?

  • @danharasty6686

    @danharasty6686

    Жыл бұрын

    YES ! Thank you, you nailed it precisely ! By the way I'm ashamed total lack detail ONE from CBC, CTV GLOBAL etc. let alone a single reporter showing wildfires. just here is where SMOKE is going. We ain't totallt stupid yet

  • @IdrisFashan

    @IdrisFashan

    Жыл бұрын

    @@fractuss I’m sorry, is my vocabulary imprecise for the standards of this KZread thread? Are troops only soldiers employed by his majesty of the commonwealth? I’m but a mere civilian. 🤪

  • @kerradeph
    @kerradeph Жыл бұрын

    Fires can jump a lot more than just streets. A street is a minor obstacle to a large wildfire. I was there to see a fire jump a lake years ago from the cinders being blown across the lake into the untouched area across from it.

  • @guysumpthin2974

    @guysumpthin2974

    Жыл бұрын

    Probably trudeau , he didn’t like the peaceful assembly, again

  • @Israel_Two_Bit

    @Israel_Two_Bit

    Жыл бұрын

    That's crazy! Can you mention what lake that was? how wide was it? I wonder how broad these backburns would need to be to prevent a huge fire from spreading.

  • @morninboy

    @morninboy

    Жыл бұрын

    Look into the Okanagan Mountain Park fire in 2003. Strong winds during that fire had it jumping two Km. at a time. We were building houses and theought it would take the fire three days to get there. We had to evacuate the next day.

  • @liebherr11602

    @liebherr11602

    Жыл бұрын

    I've only witnessed one major structural fire. It was an all wood construction single storey office type. It burn so hot you couldnt stand comfortable within 200 to 300 feet. 100feet away and the other buildings were scorched up and had to be cooled.

  • @frankmorris4790

    @frankmorris4790

    Жыл бұрын

    Here in the southwest we often have embers falling thirty minutes ahead of the fires arrival and in climax Pinion /Juniper (PJ) that can be real exciting!

  • @markusszelbracikowski956
    @markusszelbracikowski95611 ай бұрын

    This was an incredibly insightful and masterfully conducted video. Thanks for all the information, got yourselves a fan!

  • @matthewjacobs8541
    @matthewjacobs8541 Жыл бұрын

    Best coverage on this I've seen to date, outstanding job !

  • @nfamusrcr
    @nfamusrcr Жыл бұрын

    In Latin America they use goats and sheep to clear dried brush. This concept was recently implemented in Laguna Beach to clear out dried brush from the hillsides in the canyon. It is a cool sight to see a herd of goats on the hillside just doing what nature designed them to do.

  • @LiLBitsDK

    @LiLBitsDK

    Жыл бұрын

    @Dusty-twobit-Bottoms it's a lot harder for a fire to catch on if all the leaves/grasses are gone(eaten short) instead of a 3-4 foot high dry grasses that acts like gunpowder when it burns

  • @XAlpineSuptDN

    @XAlpineSuptDN

    Жыл бұрын

    Alot of these fires are occurring in a timber type with few grasses and leaves but rather have dead and down trees, branches and needles on the ground. A fire can smolder for weeks after lightning starts it until conditions exist that allow it to get up into the forest complex of fuels. I don’t think the goats are going to eat needles and little branches. They work great where there are bushes and grass. There is no fire proofing of the forest. Even clearcutting of the forest leaves residual fuels on the ground that don’t stop fires but allows them to usually burn even faster through them and cause lots of spotting. The best way to fire proof the forest is to burn it in prescribed burns that remove all the dead and down and limb up the trees.

  • @LiLBitsDK

    @LiLBitsDK

    Жыл бұрын

    @Dusty-twobit-Bottoms probably most of it even the needle trees

  • @pokwerpokwerpokwer
    @pokwerpokwerpokwer Жыл бұрын

    One thing you missed about the content of the smoke - UV from the sun converts some of it into VOCs like formaldehyde and other things that contribute to the burning plastic look smell. Also in order to filter VOCs you need respirators with a carbon filter layer as well as a particulate filter.

  • @jackcarterog001

    @jackcarterog001

    Жыл бұрын

    Yep, which is why all wildfires lead to people getting sick and complaining about a toxic burning plastic smell. LOL

  • @RockitFX1

    @RockitFX1

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the explanation! I'm in Detroit, and all of us here were confused by the burning plastic smell.

  • @kidwave1

    @kidwave1

    Жыл бұрын

    @@RockitFX1 Theyre lying bro.

  • @RockitFX1

    @RockitFX1

    Жыл бұрын

    @@kidwave1 who's lying? And about what?

  • @hime273

    @hime273

    Жыл бұрын

    This is absolute BULLSHIT

  • @ThatguywiththeAudi
    @ThatguywiththeAudi Жыл бұрын

    I’m from Pittsburgh Pennsylvania and the smoke has been sooo bad here never would think it could travel that far

  • @Bernard-fo2qo
    @Bernard-fo2qo Жыл бұрын

    It's like that old joke about bankruptcy: it happened slowly and just a little bit at first, but then it all happened suddenly and all at once.

  • @SteveGouldinSpain
    @SteveGouldinSpain Жыл бұрын

    The skies clouded over here in Spain last week, which is not unusual as we often get sand blowing up from the Sahara. However it came as a shock to learn that on this occasion it was smoke from the Canadian fires!

  • @davidwilkie9551

    @davidwilkie9551

    Жыл бұрын

    One World.

  • @claudiaCLO21

    @claudiaCLO21

    Жыл бұрын

    That’s crazy, thanks for sharing

  • @rhealgagnon1460

    @rhealgagnon1460

    Жыл бұрын

    Sorry from 🇨🇦

  • @TrebleSketch
    @TrebleSketch Жыл бұрын

    Prescribed burns have been something that has been relearned over the past few decades as Australia always has had a history with bushfires for tens of thousands of years. Once the modern "experts" finally started listening to the First Nation's people here, the method/skills/procedure for doing prescribed burns greatly improved. I can imagine that doing prescribed burns isn't as easy as "put fire here, done" and hopefully more people can get trained tho I can imagine it would sometimes get out of hand. Which has happened occasionally here in Australia. I have recently heard about 500+ Aussie firefighters have flew over to North America to fight your fires with and I wish them the best of luck and all those who have and will get caught up in this to stay safe >.

  • @jimlambrick4642

    @jimlambrick4642

    Жыл бұрын

    OK. But here in Canada prescribed burns have been around as a method of controlling wildfires long before the natives discovered their voice again and started talking it up like they'd invented it. In my years in East Africa decades ago, regular burning of dried grass and brush to encourage green sprouting has been going on for probably a million years. The natives in Canada didn't invent it, they just conveniently re-discovered this ancient practice that pre dated their existence in North America, when a bunch of compliant well funded experts started to listen to them and green gold started flowing their way for their 'ancient' knowledge.

  • @sidzhottake
    @sidzhottake Жыл бұрын

    A lot packed in to this video. Thank you!!!

  • @PlumberStacker
    @PlumberStacker11 ай бұрын

    Love you you approach all these topics. Great job

  • @markgallicano
    @markgallicano Жыл бұрын

    As a logger of 44 yrs ,the bush has always dried out in the summer and fire hazard always increased to the point of shutting the industry down til the weather changed .What's incomprehensible is the forest service doing prescribed burns in the springtime and if you didn't put out fire when it was small you couldn't get them out till the weather changed .Its always been that way .

  • @HVM_fi

    @HVM_fi

    Жыл бұрын

    Statics shown is this very video prove your anecdote wrong. It not been that way, burned areas are bigger each year, and drought is getting worse. Where are the all ice road gone in Finland and Canada? How anyone be that blind?

  • @markgallicano

    @markgallicano

    Жыл бұрын

    @@HVM_fi It was loggers that put the fires out before the forests service took it over and the previous generation of the forest service put out the fires when they are small because you couldn't get them out without a weather change . The current gen of the forest service does not do that anymore ,they put a guard around it and call it good unless it is close to a townsite .Canada never had ice roads in the summertime ,that is a winter only thing .Also its not an anecdote ,that's how we did things before the current gen took over.

  • @HVM_fi

    @HVM_fi

    Жыл бұрын

    @@markgallicano 50 years ago there were 20-30 official ice roads in use, and those were open 1.5 to 2 months in a winter. Last winter there were only three, located in the Northern Finland, and those were open only ~two weeks due lack of ice thickness/quality. There are droughts and fires in California Canada Australia and Mediterranean islands, and those are getting larger in each year, those can't explained just by firefighting practices.

  • @myRefuge3710

    @myRefuge3710

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@HVM_fithank you for knowing nothing but hand-me-down information.

  • @myRefuge3710

    @myRefuge3710

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@markgallicanothanks for giving us solid insight on your experience. Hope things get better soon.

  • @revrup
    @revrup Жыл бұрын

    Really difficult topic for you to tackle. Thanks for your courage. I didn’t really expect you to provide a definitive answer to “why” the fires are happening (and you didn’t), but you were completely honest about the possibilities. Thank you! 😊

  • @Israel_Two_Bit

    @Israel_Two_Bit

    Жыл бұрын

    It's very hard to pitch in an opinion around these highly politicized topics, but I think Ricky did a good job at cutting through the noise, IMO

  • @incognitotorpedo42

    @incognitotorpedo42

    Жыл бұрын

    Courage? Have we gotten to the point that talking about forest fires is dangerous? Wow.

  • @gonebutnotforgotten5279

    @gonebutnotforgotten5279

    Жыл бұрын

    Rethink forest 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️really? WOW🤯

  • @edbruder9975

    @edbruder9975

    Жыл бұрын

    @@incognitotorpedo42 Well, there's death threats on weathermen discussing climate change, so yeah. If you mention climate change, you might just be in the cross-hairs.

  • @dlt4videos
    @dlt4videos Жыл бұрын

    Ricky, thanks for all of your videos, this one was a different, but i liked the tone and topic. A sane and calm voice is a comfort as so much of this type of conversation is always partison from both sides. So thanks for wading on this tricky topic.

  • @Dwyeb73
    @Dwyeb73 Жыл бұрын

    WOW excellent video!! Definitely quality content. Great work

  • @murrat
    @murrat Жыл бұрын

    Wonderful video. We are in Northern Ontario, Canada. We are worried about being burned out some day. So much dead wood in the forests everywhere.

  • @BOK-04
    @BOK-04 Жыл бұрын

    Good to see your titles are getting away from the clickbait direction, thanks Ricky. Yet another informative video!!

  • @johnmitchell2741

    @johnmitchell2741

    Жыл бұрын

    Seems he is still throwing in lots of adds

  • @zekedavy6322
    @zekedavy6322 Жыл бұрын

    great video Ricki! excellent follow-up to the El nino. so much of these events seem so far from the deep deep south bayous of Louisiana but we need to know. and love seeing the family in the ad

  • @johnbehneman1546
    @johnbehneman154611 ай бұрын

    THANK YOU SO MUCH. GREAT VIDEO AND EDUCATION. THANKS FOR SHARING.

  • @rickyou1358
    @rickyou1358 Жыл бұрын

    First time I find a detailed video on Canada's fires, Thank you

  • @morninboy
    @morninboy Жыл бұрын

    Our ability to suppress fires has created forests full of dry fuel on the ground. I have been cleaning my two acre heavily forested property every fall for the last four years, burning the dry dead material. It has gone from an area too thick to walk and even see through to something I can walk around in now. Every fall it is a five day continuous fire burning the dead fuel. This year it will be the same again. Native's did controlled burns all the time. They knew how and when to burn to suppress extreme fires and provide more food

  • @robc8468

    @robc8468

    Жыл бұрын

    Climate change people and politicians seem to be against proper forrest management almost as if they want a climate disater to happen.

  • @bobyeager5233
    @bobyeager5233 Жыл бұрын

    Extremely well presented!

  • @johnbehneman1546
    @johnbehneman154611 ай бұрын

    I LOVE MY CANADIAN FAMILY!!!! I HOPE AND PRAY THAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING BETTER NOW.

  • @johnculbert1927
    @johnculbert1927 Жыл бұрын

    Love this episode of your show and your show gets better every month. Keep up the good work 👍

  • @debclarke1746
    @debclarke1746 Жыл бұрын

    In South Australia we have clouds called "Vail veridical " the rain hits the hot air then goes back up to the cloud. Thunder and lighting but no rain and that's how you can get 60 fires instantly over a ride area.

  • @jessegames6714
    @jessegames6714 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the information in video

  • @kylewebb9075
    @kylewebb9075 Жыл бұрын

    I think its also important to say that in ontario, unless the is encroaching upon a community or other important location. They tend to let the fire burn. The boreal is a fire origin forest and some trees like Jack Pine and other conifer species only open their cones and disperse seeds after they have experienced high heat like a fire. Fire also makes the ground more fertile for the new vegetation to thrive.

  • @everythingpony

    @everythingpony

    Жыл бұрын

    What? Fires burns the ground destroying the diet

  • @vinniemoscaritolo3318
    @vinniemoscaritolo3318 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent presentation Ricky. We are so aware of this in southern Oregon and Northern California. Where we have had devastating forest fires that have taken out towns. I spend a lot of time in the woods and come across massive amounts of deadwood. The bottom line is we do not harvest any of this material. And there is a strong movement by certain environmental groups to encourage the burning. If you look at data provided by the Oregon Department of forestry you will find that this increase in forest fires has a strong correlation to when we stopped harvesting. I would suggest that we need to start thinking sensibly about proper harvesting of wood. And especially when it comes to cutting lines in the forest. The environmental groups here went as far as to shut down the fire roads because I didn’t want people traveling through that area.This made fire fighting and search and rescue very difficult. Yes this is deeply engrossed in our politics also.

  • @frankmorris4790

    @frankmorris4790

    Жыл бұрын

    That's what Disney style management will get ya... "Those things once the ruin of the forest may now be it's salvation. Fire, the ax the gun and the COW." ~ Aldo Leopold~ Get the logger and cowman beck on the forest!

  • @earnthis1

    @earnthis1

    Жыл бұрын

    Selective harvesting would help, but no corporate wood company wants to do that. They want to clear cut until it's all gone. This leads to sick forests that get overly dense young trees that burn easily. That just adds to fire danger. Sure cut down all the trees no fire....but that's simplistic thinking. This issue is more complex than just cutting trees. It needs billions of dollars in gov't funding for SURVEYS, SCIENTIFIC STUDIES, then and only then, harvesting. I say this as someone who worked in the woods as a data collector.

  • @earnthis1

    @earnthis1

    Жыл бұрын

    Blaming Environmentalists?

  • @frankmorris4790

    @frankmorris4790

    Жыл бұрын

    @@earnthis1 Billions huh? How bout going back to what works. Until the l70's the Forest Service operated in the black with a profit . "Billions" just get more Gummint parasites involved. Here in the states even the most virulent nature Nazis now admit that the logger and cattleman have their place in any well run forest plan. I work on the forest as an inholder.

  • @stevenverrall4527

    @stevenverrall4527

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@earnthis1The road to hell is paved with good intentions. Only permit strip logging, and that's what will be done. That way, we will have both lumber and fire breaks.

  • @carston855
    @carston855 Жыл бұрын

    I don't know about the rest of Canada but here in Alberta we didn't have much of a spring season this year. Temperature went from -20C to +20C over about a one week timespan, the snow completely melted and all the grass and shrubs were completely dried out and brown, it takes about 2 weeks of above freezing temperature for all the trees and grass to turn green again. Combine that with no rain and very low humidity and its the perfect conditions for wildfires. I don't blame anything specifically for the fires, its just going to happen no matter what. When you look at a map of Canada, pretty much all the population and cities exist along one highway that stretches across the country, the rest is just endless trees and farmland. Just getting access to the areas these fires are burning would not be easy.

  • @corywurst

    @corywurst

    Жыл бұрын

    @Dusty-twobit-Bottoms True even in the South such as Nashville, Tenn. Lots of "evergreen", well, leyland cypress, other, got burned and toasted after this past Winter.

  • @ChrisPollitt
    @ChrisPollitt11 ай бұрын

    Very Informative and objective video. Not easy to do. Well done.

  • @johnlewis1830
    @johnlewis1830 Жыл бұрын

    I love yur logic and u have a wonderful family. Sub earned.

  • @Big.Ron1
    @Big.Ron1 Жыл бұрын

    I was told by family who have spent their entire adult life fighting forest fires that most of the fires were lighting caused. That with no thinning, past fire suppression policy, allowed the undergrowth to be way out of control and it allows major fires. No matter how they started it is a shame. To the firefighters....be safe. Those who did arson I hope they get whats coming. Now, I vote for aliens.. 😂😂😂😂😮😮😮 Thank you Ricky. Be safe everyone.

  • @oh_k8

    @oh_k8

    Жыл бұрын

    Lightening was not the main issue this time around.

  • @michaelkolbe5963

    @michaelkolbe5963

    Жыл бұрын

    They definitely purposely set !

  • @davepeterschmidt5818

    @davepeterschmidt5818

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@michaelkolbe5963So what? If the management policies didn't have the forests in a state of having severely overloaded undergrowth an arsonist would not be able to do any significant damage. Everyone is so quick to blame the initial cause, while what is really at fault is what caused the forest to become such a tinderbox.

  • @PG-3462

    @PG-3462

    Жыл бұрын

    @@michaelkolbe5963 The largest (and most unusual because of their location) fires are in Québec, and they indeed started last June 1st after we had some massive thunderstorms.

  • @PG-3462

    @PG-3462

    Жыл бұрын

    @@davepeterschmidt5818 How could Canada manage forests that are larger than entire countries? It is done on a smaller scale in the semi-arid parts of Western Canada, but managing all forests of the country is an impossible task

  • @maloryknoxx666
    @maloryknoxx66611 ай бұрын

    It was really bad here on Long Island for a few days at one point. The sky was orange and I could taste the air. I can't imagine what it's like in Canada.

  • @timsimms65707
    @timsimms65707 Жыл бұрын

    I like your common sense approach to forest management, thanks for an interesting and rational video about the fires.

  • @john-or9cf
    @john-or9cf Жыл бұрын

    Never heard of the Banff fire but we have been smoke bound here in Ohio for weeks! We’ve never had this happen in my 8 decades!

  • @tycurtin7565

    @tycurtin7565

    Жыл бұрын

    I guess it's never ever happened before huh.

  • @john-or9cf

    @john-or9cf

    Жыл бұрын

    @@tycurtin7565 Never had smoke like this until last year from the US western fires but that didn’t last as long or be as thick. We had plenty of crap in the air until the early 70’s from the now extinct steel mills but this was new to us.

  • @tycurtin7565

    @tycurtin7565

    Жыл бұрын

    @@john-or9cf My point is that the history of the weather is very long. If you look at old newspaper articles from the 1800s, this used to happen all the time. Because it's rare now is because wild fires are much more rare than they were 130 years ago or even 90 years ago. People's memories are basically useless.

  • @john-or9cf

    @john-or9cf

    Жыл бұрын

    @@tycurtin7565 I understand your point - and you’re right - I merely remarked in the last 80 years, this is the first time I remember this kind of smoke in north east Ohio. Undoubtedly it’s happened before, just not in my 80 years.

  • @tincankiller6454
    @tincankiller6454 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the video, good info. While in Colorado Rocky Mtns a few years ago "10+" noticed very large areas "hundreds to thousands of acres" of dead pine trees. Asked Park Rangers about it, they indicated with the increased warmer winters it was not killing off pine beetles which has increased their population significantly creating large dead areas in both Northern states & Canada. This could be another factor with increased dead trees increases fuel available for wildfires not to mention Pine trees are very high in resin. Add that with a warmer/dryer climate, lightning strikes and or human carelessness/ulterior motives we will see more wildfires even in areas not prone to them.

  • @ResortDog

    @ResortDog

    Жыл бұрын

    Add in the increased UV from losing the ozone...

  • @cindyhaduik7171

    @cindyhaduik7171

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes , and the pine beatles leave a flammable residue as well .

  • @jimlambrick4642

    @jimlambrick4642

    Жыл бұрын

    @Dusty-twobit-Bottoms In British Columbia Pine beetle logged trees have been one of the largest sources of structural lumber in Canada and with huge annual exports to the US for well over two decades. All the recoverable dead pine is now gone but the remaining standing dead is now being converted to wood chips for energy production. Most of which goes to England and Europe. Because there is the odd green cut in the process however, the shrieking Karens are all on about this now. So 'girls' leave it standing and create even more forest fires? You all good with that? Smoke in your big city living rooms...

  • @emariaenterprises

    @emariaenterprises

    Жыл бұрын

    @Dusty-twobit-Bottoms i love the colors of beetle killed pine.

  • @chriswebster4121
    @chriswebster4121 Жыл бұрын

    As I have been trying to get across on social media for a decade. A new approach is needed in order to fight such fires. My recommendation would be a heavy lift helium aircraft fitted with water cannons/fire retardant. Bottom and sides fitted with tiles that were used on the space shuttle for reentry in the event the craft gets too close to the blaze. There are currently this type craft a helium filled ship that can lift 250 tons. When you compare the amount of water/fire retardant that this craft can carry compared to say a 747 at 19,000 gallons to 250 tons at 68,000 gallons. There are also others that carry heavier weights. The helium filled craft can pinpoint where the water flows and can stay on site for longer period of time. After becoming empty the craft would be replaced with another if needed while 1st craft goes to refill at nearby body of water or source.

  • @RitchieCaron
    @RitchieCaron11 ай бұрын

    I was hoping you’d touch on the extended winter in Canada that combined with a hot dry spring caused a situation where the ground was still frozen while the undergrowth dried up as the forest had yet to turn green. That’s why these fires got so big so early. A long winter and hot dry spring condition also happened in Northern Ontario in 2012. Almost lost our hometown of Timmins back then had it not been for the wind changing direction and the heroic effort of the fire crews. Great video, you explained most of these confusing issues surrounding first fires very well and appreciate dispelling sine of the annoying myths that still endure. 👍

  • @ablestationfoxtrot8037
    @ablestationfoxtrot8037 Жыл бұрын

    What an excellent presentation. Thank you.

  • @Stuie444
    @Stuie444 Жыл бұрын

    You need to take your weather analysis further beyond just lightning. Prevailing winds, humidity, etc could all play a part. Lightning strike fires could easily smolder for several days - then one weather system (say - change in wind direction and intensity) could move through the area and make them all become more intense on the same day...I wouldn't be surprised at all to see the jetstream move over the area or some other pattern shift on the day they all appear to "start".

  • @Emanemoston
    @Emanemoston Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the video.

  • @chrisnolin7103
    @chrisnolin7103 Жыл бұрын

    The moment you said "the truth is somewhere in the middle", you got my subscribe. Yes sir. I can instantly tell you're one of the smart people on KZread

  • @fishingwithkar4871
    @fishingwithkar4871 Жыл бұрын

    People also seem to not realize that that part of Canada n the northern United States on the East Coast was all in a severe drought. From the beginning of May until almost the end of June we had zero rain here in PA. The grass was yellow we were in severe severe drought. Along with the rest of the northern states along with some of them going down south towards South Carolina. And most of that section of Canada. And when I would make a fire that would would light up instantly I had no trouble making fires in my fire pit. So I'm sure that had something to do with these fires getting started.

  • @Israel_Two_Bit

    @Israel_Two_Bit

    Жыл бұрын

    Exactly. That's why this is linked to the ongoing El Niño event. This is just the start of a very rough couple of years ahead.

  • @CircuitSecrets
    @CircuitSecrets Жыл бұрын

    I knew someone who always claimed that forest fires are a natural process and that working to control them with fire gaps and controlled burns would come back to bite us. This was twenty years ago, he said that the dead brush has to be cleared, and the longer we prevent that clearing by wild fires, the worse the fires will be when they do get out of control. I think we need to decide if we are going to let nature take its course or if we want to embrace the notion of engineering the world. This seems to be one of the situations where half measures make things worse.

  • @Unsensitive

    @Unsensitive

    Жыл бұрын

    I think we'd be better off clear cutting an area then controlled burns within it. This would allow us to put use to the resources, vs them burning away, clear up the forest floor of flammable material, and function somewhat analogous to natural processes.

  • @Israel_Two_Bit

    @Israel_Two_Bit

    Жыл бұрын

    I get your point and it's true to some degree. But the thing is there are people living in some of those places, so you can't expect to just "let the fires burn" unmanaged. Natural disasters are "natural," but that doesn't mean we shouldn't do what we can to prevent them.

  • @mikenotta7079

    @mikenotta7079

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@Israel_Two_BitYes, nature will do its thing. It's unfortunate and there really isn't much that can be done about it. Build smart and hope that you are fortunate that you can live your whole life without a disaster. If you can't, pick up the pieces and move forward. It is what it is.

  • @synjdcrispy7843

    @synjdcrispy7843

    Жыл бұрын

    Australia learned this decades ago. Aborigines would perform planned burns long before Europeans arrived. They recognized that there's a buildup of dead, dry foliage, and the more time between bushfires, the more severe a fire will be because of the excess fuel. The Europeans put a stop to the planned burns, and it eventually resulted in larger, more intense, and more uncontrollable fires. Same is true in the U.S. and Europe, but we tend to forget/overlook our histories the longer it's been. There are some regions where the Aborigines have continued to do fire management for thousands of years, and with bad bushfires in recent years, people are considering having asking Aborigines to use their long developed knowledge to manage other areas as well.

  • @D-B-Cooper

    @D-B-Cooper

    Жыл бұрын

    Natives use to set fires in the spring when the snow was not all melted. This made fields and fresh grazing for wildlife and hunting. Historically we had more fires than we do now. I use to fight fires and it became obvious that the fires were used as employment in the back country, when one was coming to an end amazingly another one would spring up close by.

  • @MasterDavinci
    @MasterDavinci Жыл бұрын

    You are the man, keep up the great work

  • @janetpaguilar5086
    @janetpaguilar5086 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for doing research for news

  • @WineJ57
    @WineJ57 Жыл бұрын

    I love that you kept it honest and wide spread. Gave the science guys AND the conspiracy theorists their due! Much appreciated, love the honest journalism!

  • @CaptainXJ

    @CaptainXJ

    Жыл бұрын

    "Science guys"

  • @sgbbco3981
    @sgbbco3981 Жыл бұрын

    I love your passion and almost sad that this video is how I discovered your channel but am glad you're doing what you're able to educate people. This is truly catastrophic. A sign of what's to come and it doesn't look great. If we can all be mindful of the fact we share the entire planet, maybe we can get people more invested in keeping their regions clear of large debris fields that are piles of tinder awaiting a strike of lightning or a stray ember to fall down into them. Ill Nino is here and its only going to get wilder. Thank you for reporting on matters that matter.

  • @robc8468

    @robc8468

    Жыл бұрын

    How about doing something about ecoterrorist arson from the far left. to promote the global climate change agenda? Did Canadian law enforcement do cell phone searches of key words and other communications near where each fire orignated in such a short time span yet separated by such great distances. I am sure some of the fires likely started from natural sources actually a few natural fires may have provided the cover needed for arsonists to set so many other fires in other locations. All the fires starting over such a narrow time span all over Canada is a red flag as was so many major politicians and media jumping to the climate change narative so quickly with almost no real investigation of these events, proper forrest management ,or the actual resources that would be used to contain the fires and put them out quickly is also suspect.

  • @maxthaysen5399

    @maxthaysen5399

    Жыл бұрын

    @Dusty-twobit-Bottoms can you cover the role of climate change in all of this? and how we can address climate change?

  • @justinsandbeck3419
    @justinsandbeck3419 Жыл бұрын

    Great job, thanks...

  • @goatsintrees7468
    @goatsintrees7468 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you.

  • @lancecorey6582
    @lancecorey6582 Жыл бұрын

    You might have over estimated the amount of wood from trees (especially in the northern areas). The trees become smaller since the colder weather slows growth. In the USA, it might be 20 to 25 years of growth to get a tree to harvest, but it might be 50 years in the north and you still don't get usable lumber.

  • @avdkmusic
    @avdkmusic Жыл бұрын

    Excellent data and reporting as usual. Thank you.

  • @guitarninjarick8179
    @guitarninjarick817911 ай бұрын

    Crazy how much that has affected air quality in the Northern Hemisphere. I live in central Illinois and it affected our air quality for two days. At the time Chicago which is roughly 3 hours north of us supposedly had one of the worst air quality measurements in the world at the time. Don't recall wildfires ever affecting our air quality before, crazy times!

  • @robertchaffee5662
    @robertchaffee5662 Жыл бұрын

    Very professional and informative program! Thank you!

  • @SilverSeleucid
    @SilverSeleucid Жыл бұрын

    Wow! Unbiased reporting. Mentioning all sides of the debate without judgement. 10/10 video. Thank you

  • @Israel_Two_Bit

    @Israel_Two_Bit

    Жыл бұрын

    Not something easy to pull off, for sure!

  • @ohioplayer-bl9em

    @ohioplayer-bl9em

    Жыл бұрын

    Amazing isn’t it. Have to go to independent reporters because the msm media is all controlled. Ever seen the video that showed hundreds of reporters saying the same thing… word for word? If not look it up

  • @RobOfTheNorth2001

    @RobOfTheNorth2001

    Жыл бұрын

    “All sides” shouldn’t include ‘space lasers government control plot’. A well research piece shouldn’t throw up it’s hands and say ‘no evidence’, it should call these theories out for being ridiculous misinformation that if accepted can lead people to even more harmful beliefs.

  • @tom.jacobs
    @tom.jacobs Жыл бұрын

    thanks for this deep dive into (dis)information, so we don't fall need to be in those bubbles and keep our feed scientifically 🙂

  • @VeronicaMist
    @VeronicaMist10 ай бұрын

    I was a fire tower lookout person and my whole job was to watch for lightening, try to pinpoint it on my area map, and wait for the smoke to come up. Waiting minutes, hours, days, even weeks for any smoldering strikes to take off. Of course not all lightening strikes ignite a fire. 🔥🔥

  • @johnbehneman1546
    @johnbehneman154611 ай бұрын

    I LOVE YOU GUYS!!! I JUST WANT EVERYONE TO BE PREPARED FOR WHAT THE FUTURE HOLDS. THAT IS THE BEST DEFENCE WE CAN DO TODAY. THANKS FOR LETTING ME SHARE.

  • @mikeh6206
    @mikeh6206 Жыл бұрын

    One of the major issues is that we clear cut. A healthy forest has a lot of moisture just below ground level. With clear cutting, all that is left is dry ground and the off cut brush which is perfect to make situation far worse. Usually the "normal" fires might take out treetops and then burn out but with much of the best trees removed, it can move very fast and overcome the natural ability of a healthy forest to dampen it. Our weather patterns are changing due to climate change so expect this issue to get worse. We will not be able to solve it with firefighting. It is too big for that. BTW, Nova Scotia, in a drive to get off coal, allowed massive clear cutting. I believe this is one big issue in that particular fire.

  • @duaneday5474

    @duaneday5474

    Жыл бұрын

    I would add that NS experiences hurricanes nearly each year for the past 2 decades compared to just 3 total hurricanes in 3 decades prior. The hurricanes left NS forest vulnerable with fallen debris and uprooted trees. The damaged forest hasn't been managed to mitigate the risk of fire. I agree that deforestation is responsible for the forest vulnerability. A satellite image of the province is a sight for sore eyes. So much of the province has been leveled due to deforestation.

  • @frankmorris4790

    @frankmorris4790

    Жыл бұрын

    Healthy western forest also carries forty to fifty stems per acre, in the NF''s we have four to five HUNDRED. so much for subsurface moisture...

  • @stevenverrall4527

    @stevenverrall4527

    Жыл бұрын

    Logging in strips would make much more sense than clear cutting. We would get both lumber and fire breaks.

  • @zeening

    @zeening

    Жыл бұрын

    they deserve it then for going after coal

  • @blowmeyotbweknowugoodfklit2549

    @blowmeyotbweknowugoodfklit2549

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@stevenverrall4527that is the worst thing they can do been in forestry for 26 years and that ruins deer wintering areas and it waped out our deer heard.

  • @Merlin0216
    @Merlin0216 Жыл бұрын

    I didn't hear about those conspiracy "theories" until your video. It made me realise that humanities end is inevitable. If not from climate change itself then from the stupidity of our fellow humans.

  • @PG-3462

    @PG-3462

    Жыл бұрын

    All Canadian social medias talking about the fires are filled with those conspiracy theories...

  • @louisgiokas2206
    @louisgiokas2206 Жыл бұрын

    Good and well-balanced information. As for the weather on the phone, you are correct. I always monitor both my phone and my computer weather apps. They often don't agree. I even find that sometimes the weather radar shows one thing and the detail view shows another. I heard one KZreadr, a theoretical physicist, say that we now can predict the weather at least two days in advance. She is full of it. Not only is that not generally true, but the apps keep changing their predictions and there is no good way to go back and check. I am going to work on that. As to the effect of the fires on other areas, I can attest to that. I live in the Chicago area and we have had many air quality alerts. One day I opened windows on my first floor, and I actually became physically ill because of the smoke. It does seem to hug the ground, and I have had no problems leaving the upper floor windows open. You have to understand for this to affect me is extreme, since I am a regular cigar smoker.

  • @katies6287
    @katies6287 Жыл бұрын

    As usual excellent video. Thank you especially for looking into the potential causes.

  • @richard_the_lion_farted
    @richard_the_lion_farted Жыл бұрын

    As a Canadian, I feel compelled to do what Canada does best... Apologize. Sorry about the smokey air Eh. Fer sure, if it was some Hoser that started the fire they are going to get an enormous yelling at, yoo becha. Seriously though, I want to give my most sincerest thanks to everyone from around the world to help us through this.

  • @jpontheroad
    @jpontheroad Жыл бұрын

    Thank you, I've trying to cool down the conspiracy about the fire in Québec for weeks, we had weeks without rain, followed by some violent thunderstorm and followed by some strong wind. Not so hard to understand.

  • @Israel_Two_Bit

    @Israel_Two_Bit

    Жыл бұрын

    The perfect storm! The only good news is that if these fires burn through lots of the overgrown fuel, perhaps next year, which is forecast to be the hottest in record, won't see even worse wildfires.

  • @chrisklugh
    @chrisklugh10 ай бұрын

    I got a front row view of the fires in Kelowna, BC. Till you see it with your own eyes, you will have no idea how fast these fires can spread. Evacuate if your told too!

  • @abpho207
    @abpho207 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks. Great video.

  • @KaiPonte
    @KaiPonte Жыл бұрын

    wow, have not seen lightning here in Los Angeles for like a year. i forget how often it happens in other parts of the world

  • @chrisgilpin194
    @chrisgilpin194 Жыл бұрын

    I’m a Firefighter in Australia. Grass and bushfires start all the time. Weather affects how easily we can put them out or how large they grow when we can’t. Climate change affects weather, the end.

  • @KoRntech

    @KoRntech

    Жыл бұрын

    It's like people especially in America forgot a huge part of Australia was on fire before the beginning of 2020. But too many choose to not accept accountability for inaction or grasp at Whatever the lobbyist fund media outlets say it's a mixed bag of warmer climate and poor land management and bad actors, because we can't blame oil and coal that's just unamerican. 🙄 I live in a region where as a kid we had snow piled in parking lots into early spring before they were melted away now they barely are around a week or two in winter. But people my age and well over 50 say it's just a cycle and volcanoes. Speaking of which how did you manage the flooding after Hunga Tunga disrupted the entire hemisphere weather patterns the past year+?

  • @Israel_Two_Bit

    @Israel_Two_Bit

    Жыл бұрын

    I completely agree. When you see what the media are showing to both camps of the issue, you realize how hard it is to get an unbiased view of the situation. As someone once said, all conspiracy theories have some degree of truth baken into them. The rest seems to be just a very strong confirmation bias at play. We all have a predetermined idea of why things happen and when we see someone explaining it in a way that aligns with that preconceived idea, our brain tends to overlook the clear red flags and misjudgments that were made in the process. It's veeeeeery hard to avoid falling into this trap since it involves a level of self-criticism most of us aren't comfortable with.

  • @jpmeyer4159

    @jpmeyer4159

    Жыл бұрын

    And most of those fires were set by people, the end!

  • @dudes1079

    @dudes1079

    Жыл бұрын

    @@KoRntech yes we can't blame oil and coal or animal agriculture that is definitely unpatriotic. Lots of money and thought goes into climate denial,: lobbying, paying journalists to give too much weight to minority views, people arguing in the media instead of peer review, as well as starting conspiracy theories I think!

  • @andrewwilgress4100

    @andrewwilgress4100

    Жыл бұрын

    Climate is and has been changing forever. Stop allowing people to manipulate you. The greenie people planting match box forests.

  • @byronwolters2363
    @byronwolters2363 Жыл бұрын

    Very well done and well reasoned presentation!

  • @LisaKnobel
    @LisaKnobel Жыл бұрын

    In the western US, it could be days to weeks before a fire starts that a lightening strike hit. The tree that was hit will shoulder until conditions like wind and heat are optimal. We always dread lightening storms that do not produce rain.

  • @DrTofutybeast
    @DrTofutybeast Жыл бұрын

    Thank 🐦 you very much for the details you went into. It would take an hour or so to respond as I spent many years in BC fighting wildfires. The system is almost totally incompetent and obviously ineffective in preventing wildfires in Canada. It's unfortunately also corrupt. We have massive fossil fuel subsidies though...

  • @RobertLBarnard
    @RobertLBarnard Жыл бұрын

    A friend who spent 20 years as a Ventura County fireman set me straight on controlling the fuel load. Letting fuel load build up eventually causes unnaturally hot fires that are uncontrollable, damaging the indigenous plants and animals. But frequent fires, matching the pattern of nature, every few years, clears out the fuel load. The fire is less intense, quickly running through areas without harming roots or burning through bark of indigenous trees. These kinds of fires can also release seeds of some plants, like the Jack Pine of my Northern Michigan home. In some cases, goats (yes, goats) have been used to clean areas of their fuel load, especially where the land is rough and challenging to climbing. Having a "Zero Tolerance" of fire isn't an option. Dead wood and other debris will accumulate. If we don't clean it up (either by collecting or using it, or allow burns), then it will eventually it will burn at a rate the we have no choice, we won't be able to put it out.

  • @pin65371

    @pin65371

    Жыл бұрын

    Yah goats do a great job.. it could be a way to produce a massive amount of cheap meat as well. If the government gave money to farmers that were willing to move their goats around in the forests they could drive down costs. Could even have the government give college students jobs working with the goats over the summer. Basically ensure their education for the next year is paid for by working June - August. The military pays for school. This could be a similar type program. Grocery stores could negotiate a good price to hopefully get the price of meat down. Not the answer a vegetarian would like to hear though.

  • @pin65371

    @pin65371

    Жыл бұрын

    @Dusty-twobit-Bottoms I think they would eat a bit of it. They would be walking all over stuff too which would maybe help break down the materials quicker.

  • @pin65371

    @pin65371

    Жыл бұрын

    @Dusty-twobit-Bottoms so it looks like Llamas will eat the brush. They are great for protecting other animals as well. Just get like 4 Llamas in with like 40 goats and let them deal with it.

  • @magnamax852
    @magnamax852 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the video , nice work, if your in a small town/village you can considering that your already in a 15 min city, the only thing that needs to change to make it official is installing servalince and a fineing system to prevent "too much traveling away from home " over 15 mins from your home

  • @LisaKnobel
    @LisaKnobel Жыл бұрын

    You can filter the air in your home using a box fan and a furnace filter. Get a filter that handles smoke & particulates the same size as your box fan, place the filter on the inlet side. The suction of the fan will keep it on place. Keep your windows closed and run the fan anywhere in the house. Replace the filter as needed. It's a cheap and effective solution

  • @chonky2129
    @chonky2129 Жыл бұрын

    It's odd watching people talk about something, I've been involved with my entire adult life, and have absolutely no idea what they're talking about.

  • @vitaligent
    @vitaligent Жыл бұрын

    Another informative and unbiased take from Ricky. Well done, and greetings from the mountains of Corona, CA.

  • @janettebrantner5485
    @janettebrantner548511 ай бұрын

    It hit me hard when you mentioned a group that wants the population to ALL be clustered in cities. TRUE! In the early 90's I was having a horrible time with the planning office in The Dalles, OR. I had two properties to build on ( one which had already previously been permitted ). We went from two to 10 county planners, and I was not being allowed to build on my two properties. To get to the point" I went to a planning meeting "! I was shocked to see their plan "!!! It's was exactly as you mentioned. On the large chalk board they wanted NO people living rurally including no dogs, no horses, cows etc.etc. etc. And ALL people forced to live in the city...NO RURAL LIVING! We also had a group that illegally in a 3:00am vote without the opposing voters being present, voted in the Columbia Gorge Commission. You'll have to investigate their agenda yourself, but I believe they still have control in the Columbia Gorge.

  • @tuberroot1112
    @tuberroot1112 Жыл бұрын

    Another factor to consider is the effect of banning logging. Save the trees sounds beautiful. But controlled logging can be essential as a way to reduce fire risk. Cleared zones and logging trails provide effective fire blocks.

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