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I been in IT since 1999 when you were considered lame or a nerd if you was working in Tech, especially as a black guy. Now all the influx of people that’s trying to get into it (thanks to social media) it’s almost like selling a dream. We’re in times of instant gratification. People thinking they’re going to get a few entry level certs and then get a 6 figure job with no experience is comical at best😂

@jefestar

5 ай бұрын

still the same way today

@Maverick-xl8cm

5 ай бұрын

That’s crazy people would think you’re “lame” for being in a technical field, bc where I’m from black people who chose to be in IT was very much highly regarded due to the complexity and sort of mystique that came with being technical. And I graduated In 2000. You sure your career choice was the only reason people would have thought you were lame?

@Mark-gg8xx

5 ай бұрын

I've been in tech since 1998 and has a POC worked my way up to a leadership position in Cloud. Wasn't easy, but I made it there.

@ScrillaTMU

5 ай бұрын

Don’t blame them. Blame the dream a lot of these workshops give them. A lot of these folks pay 1500 for a starter course some company sells and they tell a lot of these ppl they can make $120000 startin out. $120+ a year startin out with no experience or degree is impossible. Even with a cert here and there

@joaquinmc8425

4 ай бұрын

Thank you for your input out of curiosity, What do you suggest?

I have been working in the helpdesk for 2 years and have the A+, Net+, Sec+, Server+, Linux+, CySA+, and Pentest+. I only got invited to interview at 1 company for a cybersecurity job all 2023... mind you I literally had the job offer verbally until they decided to go with an internal employee at the very last minute. I won't lie I wanted to give up chasing the dream after that heartbreak but I'm still just doing my thing. I'm in WGU now for my master's in Cybersecurity. I will continue to keep learning despite being stuck at a dead-end helpdesk job. Hopefully, I get my chance to do something more someday!

@TechTualChatter

6 ай бұрын

So you don’t need anymore certs. I think your job search streategy along with resume may need work. Check out more of my content to see if it can help you with that.

@kevinlopez3414

6 ай бұрын

@@TechTualChatter I agree, starting next week I’m taking a two week “vacation” to focus on WGU and I’m going to revise my resume and start applying to more job postings. I’ll definitely do a deep dive into your content! 👍

@armandogomez2677

6 ай бұрын

I was stuck at helpdesk for 7 years was given empty promises to move up within the company. I started looking for work got a job at a start up that only lasted a month now landed a nice position and it’s been two weeks still being trained on tools and procedures and that’s a lot no certs but looking to get the network plus then ccna and see where if still employed here (companies have no loyalty) where I can advance if not see what cyber looks like at that point

@TechTualChatter

6 ай бұрын

@@armandogomez2677 7 years???!

@armandogomez2677

6 ай бұрын

@@TechTualChatteryeah first in my family to grow up here in the states and all I knew growing up is you land a job and move up within that company.

It is possible to get the certs in 90 days if you dont have a life, job, or family...120 to 180 days (4 to 6 months) is more doable...but that isnt including building a portfolio or the job search. If starting from scratch, at least expect 6 months to a year to get a new job. I am in IT as a Web Developer...if I had 90 days I would honestly get the Sec+ and the AZ-500 and niche down to cloud security.

@Genxrgonemad

6 ай бұрын

Correct me if I'm wrong, but from my homework, I think someone new to IT needs a good foundational class before even considering cybersecurity. For me, I decided to start the Google IT support certificate. At $49 a month, I see it as a minimally risky investment, unlike college or a boot camp. Later, I can decide what licenses to pursue if i stay in this field. I would appreciate constructive feedback from IT veterans.

@TechTualChatter

6 ай бұрын

@Genxrgonemad in my pinned comment I have a better course you should check out over the Google it support certification

Unfortunate, work wifi clipped out and I had a whole spill lol. Lets just say you guys are 100% and I believe people need to accompanying their technical skills and certs if they have any with soft skills like communication.

I seen that video. It didnt sound dishonest. I will say there usually isn't a 1,2,3 and your done way to do things aside from cooking or changing brakes. Keep up the great videos

@TechTualChatter

6 ай бұрын

Well said!

Barring a genius like you all mentioned, theres no way you're net and sec along with az900, and learning linux and traffic analysis in 90 days but the big issue is that you're not niching down into any of the specific fields enough

@TechTualChatter

6 ай бұрын

💡 💡💡💡💡💡

Just throwing a comment - I’m a new fan. Single Dad working in the industry - got a masters in IT with a concentration in Cyber Security. Doing the work. Trying for Network+ now. I’ll be watching. Peace!

Bowtie's roadmap" plan would have been good in like 2021, not in 90 days though. The industry is correcting itself now in terms of hiring.

@TechTualChatter

6 ай бұрын

Yeah maybe 2020 but now it’s getting tough. That’s why it’s easier for people like myself to get roles vs entry level peeps

The crazy thing is that I’ve actually done everything homeboy suggested in the video… some people say “don’t knock it till you try it”… I tried it, I did what he is saying to do… and I disagree with him fully

@TechTualChatter

6 ай бұрын

That’s why I can’t way for us to talk

It’s possible if they hand you one

Cybersecurity is lit right now. They better hop on this moving train.

So I’m trying to get my A+ Network+ Sec+ and AZ 240 In the next 90 days. I think it is 100% doable BUT I have been a software engineer for 3 years already. I wouldn’t recommend to a beginner. IF I DO PASS THEM ALL I’ll give y’all the secret sauce lmao

@TechTualChatter

5 ай бұрын

That’s a waste of time when security jobs are looking for software engineers lol

Im studying 3 hours a day, work 10hrs a day. Double up on my off day, but i honestly won't have all 3 certs and projects within 3 months. Maybe 6. I told my bf he may have to deal with feeling a little abandoned for a few months😅

@TechTualChatter

3 ай бұрын

You'll get through it!

What's your opinion about the cyber security junior college workforce certifications

@TechTualChatter

6 ай бұрын

im not familiar with what that is

Age of the geek baby. Age of the geek

I'm a complete beginner. I'm switching careers from construction and I'm trying to get into ANY IT job. I'm going to study for few certifications one at the time, CCNA, network+, A+, security+, AWS practitioner. and Azure (fundamentals). I have a few months of finance but I'm not sure if these are the right certifications for beginner, I really hope this will land me a job in security in the future. Any advice would be really appreciated 🙂🙂💥❤️‍🔥

@TechTualChatter

6 ай бұрын

If you want to land a entry level it job then check out my pinned comment for course careers it course

@ruslanbedoev9264

6 ай бұрын

@@TechTualChatter Thank you very much

I was able to get A+, Network+ and Security+ in around 90 days. From October to January. But I still can’t even land a Help desk😂

@TechTualChatter

4 ай бұрын

Cause in theory you don’t really know anything And I’m willing to bet you’re resume is not good as well

@Htolee

4 ай бұрын

@@TechTualChatter Okay, where would I be able to get an evaluation of my resume? Also the reason I was able to finish the certification in that amount of time was from my self taught experience with PCs and Softwares through gaming growing up.

@TechTualChatter

4 ай бұрын

@@Htolee I can evaluate that for you. I have my consult links in the description

Why does the video end so abruptly?

@TechTualChatter

5 ай бұрын

It’s a snippet..

All black tech creators do is try to debunk methods on how to get into this lucrative career. Y’all never off any solutions without us having to dig through yalls page and watch a bunch of videos. If certifications isn’t the way what is? A degree? Labs? What? All I hear is yall constantly telling us what is misinformation but do not follow up with the correct path. It suck knowing yalls target audience is black. Every industry I’ve been in from insurance to trucking everytime I watch or listen to our kind I find their objective is to deter and confuse people. How about you guys provide the solution and maybe we would know these people are lying.

@trappedineuphoria3416

6 ай бұрын

It's all about views, clicks, and revenue....not necessarily you HD but A LOT of people across different industries....

@TJB1060

6 ай бұрын

I can understand the frustration and I 100% agree. The thing about it is that everyone’s path is different so there’s no one way to come in. Some people break into tech in 90 days but that just isn’t gonna be the case for the majority of people. From my point of view I think those who are already in tech don’t want those trying to break in to “cheat” their way cause in most cases it will always come back to hurt you. There will be many gaps in your knowledge and fundamentals of IT.

@TechTualChatter

6 ай бұрын

Stop crying 😢 😅😂 I have a livestream that gives you a roadmap on how to get into the field. I also have an ebook I developed for people like you Also did you know why I debunk stuff like this. If you are indeed black then you must know that shortcuts don’t typically work for black people. 🤷🏾

@TechTualChatter

6 ай бұрын

If they watch this full episode they’ll see how Markeisha and I gave the viewers gems on getting into the industry

@SimplyDidi18

6 ай бұрын

HD has always brought it 100%. If you read his ebook and watch his shows, you can have no difficulty breaking into tech. You just gotta be determined, consistent and select the kinda information you get online.

False certs aren't going away in gov roles.

@TechTualChatter

6 ай бұрын

They’re not going away but they will not be as important as they were in the past

I think 6 months is more realistic.

@TechTualChatter

6 ай бұрын

to be totally honest its hard to guarantee any time frame in this market

To clarify, when you took you sec +, did you have any net+ knowledge or just A+ knowledge? I know you said you didn't have experience...... thx bro for the content.

@TechTualChatter

6 ай бұрын

No didn’t We barely covered those things in school. If you study you can pass but that’s about it

@d.w.4319

6 ай бұрын

@@TechTualChatter thx bro!

@Tusk_Tact

6 ай бұрын

I went the A+, then Net+, and then Sec+ in that order. I understood that to be the natural progression. Once I got into Security I found out I was wrong BUT the Network knowledge I had was a real plus. A lot of my colleagues came directly into Security and it showed anytime Networking and Routing came up. That said, the two Threat guys we had were Mr Robot types and both self taught. Their roles looked more interesting than FW

@d.w.4319

6 ай бұрын

@Tusk_Tact thanks for this . Very helpful insight. No I plan on studying net+ concepts just for fun but not testing for the certification, while I'm studying to take sec + . This info coming from 2 security professionals is SUPER helpful!

@d.w.4319

6 ай бұрын

@Tusk_Tact might be a slow question to ask but what is FW?

I study 4-5hrs a day, work 50hrs a week and take care of two boys. It can be done, one just needs to cut out the noise (social media, TV...) and focus. By the way, y'all did say the #s of people holding these Certs was wrong. Y'all are arguing for the lazy that want to take it easy.

@TechTualChatter

2 ай бұрын

You’re missing the point…. Certs alone don’t get jobs Also getting them that fast also means you’re not retaining a lot of the information.

People are so mad that they spent so much money on a Bachelors degree, have all these certain and can’t find a job… meanwhile employers aren’t even asking to see the Bachelors degree people claim to have and don’t actually care if you have one. It’s not about the carts and degrees… do you have communication skills? Can you answer and phone and talk to someone without sounding illiterate? Can you build relationships with people? Do you Have experience working with and staying with a company for 3/4 years? … those are things employers are looking for as well.. and they might consider someone with those things over someone with degree and certs. Stop being mad that people are working smart, not hard.

@TechTualChatter

3 ай бұрын

🤣🤣🤣 is not that easy getting into cybersecurity Especially the having a job for 3/4 years. No one cares about that Companies do background checks on all the info you give them so if you say you have a degree you better have one. People are getting certs but not skills

@ceooftorment927

Ай бұрын

Only recently has the US government said that hiring should be based on skills rather than degrees within security. I don't see where blasting people who get degrees really fits any argument. I got my degree and Sec+, doing just fine working my way up doing helpdesk and beginning to lean more towards a security role. If you're not going to put effort into marketing yourself tho, no one will care about you.

all I’m hearing is complaining & excuses. just bc most ppl don’t have the determination to do it doesn’t mean it’s impossible. no useful alternatives were mentioned in this video, just complaining & excuses.

@TechTualChatter

6 ай бұрын

How about you watch the full video 🤣

@Guadalou2

5 ай бұрын

Thought the same thing

@VicMansaMusa

2 ай бұрын

I think so too. It's nothing but excuses, I got Azure sc200 in a month. No experience, coming from running a trucking company. And I am a single dad of two boys (2,4). It's hard, but I cut out all the noise (social media, TV and other useless crap) and got to business.

@TechTualChatter

2 ай бұрын

Or you can watch the full video 🤣🤣 we talk about the majority not the minority I got a decade of skin in the game I’m not talking just to talk