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Can you Bevel without Clamp Overlap? (3 Powerful Solutions)

In this video, I'd like to discuss 3 optimal solutions to dealing with clamp overlap and artifact issues on your bevels.
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  • @Schwifty1
    @Schwifty12 жыл бұрын

    If the bevel tool worked in a way where the intersecting vertices automatically joined to the intersected edges/vertices, there would be much less problems.

  • @dowerchin
    @dowerchin2 жыл бұрын

    Excellent! I actually didn't know about the Offset Cut, I'll need to give that a shot! Thanks!

  • @znefas
    @znefas2 жыл бұрын

    Hopefully one day we'll have a solution that isn't paid, time-consuming, and works on the geometry in the future. This isn't to say that MESHMachine and work of its developer isn't appreciated, but unfortunately a lot of hobbyists can't afford those plugins. Great video regardless, although if I had to say, I think speaking slightly faster would improve the quality!

  • @mickyr171
    @mickyr1712 жыл бұрын

    With the bevel shader you can bake the normals out and use it in eevee aswell

  • @BlenderDaily
    @BlenderDaily2 жыл бұрын

    very useful, thanks Josh!

  • @billnoname8093
    @billnoname8093 Жыл бұрын

    yes I would say I'm intermediate and didn't know what was happening , thanks. That and It finally sunk in to make sure I apply all transforms before I use bevels

  • @fyiicheckforspies
    @fyiicheckforspies2 жыл бұрын

    I never heard of the bevel shader in Blender before! very nice

  • @mickyr171

    @mickyr171

    2 жыл бұрын

    If you want to use it in eevee you can bake the normals out in cycles, save the texture, switch to eevee and load the texture and run it through a normal map, works awesome for metal materials

  • @stormycatmink
    @stormycatmink2 жыл бұрын

    Coming from procedural modeling (like CAD) to mesh modeling, it's just baffling that these problems are even a thing.

  • @zozoolaroxmusic

    @zozoolaroxmusic

    8 ай бұрын

    I hope there’s times when these two collab to take over te world😂

  • @rubensangelo1646
    @rubensangelo16468 ай бұрын

    works like a charm.. thanks

  • @zozoolaroxmusic
    @zozoolaroxmusic8 ай бұрын

    Hey, boss! Why there’s nothing on gumroad’s mesh machine page about offset cut. Although it’s experimental feature it’s worth meaning in description i suppose

  • @damjanzugic6343
    @damjanzugic6343 Жыл бұрын

    So bevel shader is not viable option if u want to export mesh and use it somewhere else right, like bake high to low in SP or perhaps Unity?

  • @sietz513
    @sietz51310 ай бұрын

    I had an issue with clamp overlap. I got rid of the extra geometry by selecting the whole object and then going "Mesh > Merge By Distance".

  • @orphydiancg7759
    @orphydiancg77592 жыл бұрын

    What is exactly that offset cut doing? Eating the geometry isn't very enlightening

  • @obv_design9310
    @obv_design9310 Жыл бұрын

    Extremely helpful, thank you so much!

  • @monkmichel9477
    @monkmichel9477 Жыл бұрын

    I found a (really inconvenient/stupid) way to bevel an edge that has tons of ngons and curved surfaces nearby, not recommended, but I'll post it anyway. (its more like cutting a round corner into an edge than a bevel in itself) 1. Select and duplicate the edge you want to bevel, make it its own object seperate from the original. 2. Extrude the edge towards the 2 directions of the surface of your original object, doesnt matter if it clips or hovers over the original surface. Ngons are gone now. 3. Do the Blender Secrets video thing where you add objects seamlessly to another object by adding edge loops and putting them into a vertex group with different weights and use a shrinkwrap modifier so it sticks to your original objects surface. 4. Bevel the one edge, should be possible now as there are no ngons anymore. 5. Add solidify modifier going outwards. 6. Bool new object from the original one (set boolean mod to exact) Downsides, way too much work and maybe doesnt work on extreme angles due to the solidify modifier (but is non destructive to the original object). Still needs tweaking depending on the object (weld modifier, adjusting position of edge loops etc). In my tests in blender 3.4.1. the boolean modifier (set to exact) sometimes stops showing the result, if I click into some settings or other objects. Then I have to disable and enable the modifier to "update" it and it shows up again. As I said, it's a convoluted and stupid way of doing this but also non destructive (if it works at all in the first place) and faster than manually merging vertices to get everything clean, maybe someone gets anything out of it. # doubt

  • @generalshrooms
    @generalshrooms2 жыл бұрын

    What about beveling the cutter instead of the subject?

  • @sebbosebbo9794
    @sebbosebbo9794 Жыл бұрын

    thx for your Tips...great.. hope too one day a simple solution non destructiv workflow with modifier edit workflow is posssible maybe with G.nodes in vanilla B3d. retope is on a way in development I think . .I know 3dMax is so big but have so cool modfiers and funktion for nondestructiv poly & spline work but its unafortable.too.

  • @warsp1te
    @warsp1te2 жыл бұрын

    i hope that we won't have to deal with this kind of bs in the future, hopefully some kind of ai solution will be able to resolve these kind of problems automatically.

  • @nirmansarkar
    @nirmansarkar2 жыл бұрын

    6:55 "You know, I'm something of a Rapper myself" - Josh Gambrell (2022)

  • @elxakiltse8773
    @elxakiltse87732 ай бұрын

    n-gon wild west topology with meshmachine

  • @DerekElliott
    @DerekElliott2 жыл бұрын

    nice

  • @davidswanson5669
    @davidswanson56692 ай бұрын

    why is it that everyone who makes tutorials for blender are all hopelessly addicted to only using modifiers (and other bandaids) to get their work done? It's like they are allergic to editing face/edges/vertices in edit mode. I can only assume it's because kids hate seeing low poly objects, even though that's what a deliverable end product would need to be. Eventually all that beautifully smooth/rounded art will need to be converted into an actual mesh, and you'll get laughed at for having 20,000 tris. This of course is assuming that you're using Blender to get paid - meaning you're creating models for a game and not just rendering out cool things for fun. If you're delivering workproduct to other people, you'll need to have become intimately aware of the actual mesh you're working with, not an artificial skin that's placed over it. Optimizing the mesh also helps you optimize the UV map, which helps the game engine do basic things (like lighting the object) properly and acceptably. Unity handles meshes, not modifiers - you want a game playable, not crashing. So please, tutorial makers and tutorial watchers, learn how to use edit mode to get (nearly) all your work done. You might actually land a job in real life.

  • @AndreySokolovRu
    @AndreySokolovRu2 жыл бұрын

    Ahh, always expecting some magic solution that could procedurally fix boolean issues on any geometry, but nothing changes: still everything needs to be fixed by hand, or is paid, or works in Cycles only.

  • @긔신_ChibiGhost
    @긔신_ChibiGhost2 жыл бұрын

    한국인을 위한 요약 2:09 Clamp Overlap - 베벨 제한 해제 문제 발생 - 베벨 시 메쉬가 넘어가며 일그러지는 문제가 생김 2:19 솔루션 1 - 불린을 적용 후 수동으로 메쉬를 병합하며 정리 사실상 가장 좋은 방법이나 메쉬가 더 세세하게 나눠있을 시 시간이 오래 걸려 불편할 수 있음 4:26 솔루션 2 - 유료 애드온 메쉬 머신 실험기능 사용 간단하게 사용가능하지만 유료 5:49 솔루션 3 - 베벨 쉐이딩 노드 사용 모델 전체의 베벨을 조절하기에 원하는 결과가 나오지 않을 수 있음 사이클 렌더에서만 작동

  • @PiterTraceurFA
    @PiterTraceurFA Жыл бұрын

    I wonder how many features won't be added to blender because they already exist in paid addons

  • @SherKhanShani
    @SherKhanShani2 жыл бұрын

    The easy way what i will do is separate this hole and then make it smaller 2 axis and then bride it with bend. I used Maya terminology .

  • @GavinRain

    @GavinRain

    2 жыл бұрын

    what if you don't want the hole to be smaller?

  • @SherKhanShani

    @SherKhanShani

    2 жыл бұрын

    ​@@GavinRain Then i will start with a bigger hole. If you want i can make a video? Again it will be Maya.

  • @akira2392

    @akira2392

    Жыл бұрын

    basically what mesh machine did from my understanding (but faster)

  • @bclaus0
    @bclaus02 жыл бұрын

    I still don’t understand why anyone would want to model hard surfaces with mesh engines and not parametrically.

  • @garfield8963

    @garfield8963

    2 жыл бұрын

    So it's actually useable in blender?

  • @JoshGambrell

    @JoshGambrell

    2 жыл бұрын

    Plenty of reasons - I’ve already made a video on NURBs modeling. I still prefer polygons for what I do, 99% of the time.

  • @joetroyner

    @joetroyner

    2 жыл бұрын

    Agreed. The only reason to use Blender for this type of modeling is that it's free. This type of artifact is a non issue in solid modeling platforms like Solidworks, Inventor, etc. I guess it depends on what you're trying to accomplish. If you are trying to model dimensionally accurate parts based off prints in a time sensitive manner, blender isn't the answer. If you have time and some creative freedom and are just trying to make cool stuff for movies, Blender works just fine. If I still had access to Solidworks, I would only use Blender for rendering. Depends what you're trying to accomplish and the amount of time people are willing to pay for I guess..

  • @ianmcglasham

    @ianmcglasham

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@joetroyner I partially agree. Hard surface modelling has few uses but good sub division surface technique can make blender genuinely useful!

  • @bclaus0

    @bclaus0

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@JoshGambrell yeah I saw that a couple months ago. The only reason I heard you mention was that Blender has Cycles. But you don’t really use Cycles while modelling. So it’s not a logical reason to me. Moi has an amazing obj exporter with custom normals so even when you import, you still don’t have to fix anything. I think the real reason is that you built up this massive experience in Blender and it would take some time to build the same with Moi. I completely respect the amazing results you achieve, but it will just never be a rational choice to use Blender for pure hard surfacing (not factoring in cost of software).

  • @springtimereaper7849
    @springtimereaper78492 жыл бұрын

    well couldn't you use a Boolean on an even surface of the sphere rather than use box cutter in the worst place possible?

  • @GavinRain

    @GavinRain

    2 жыл бұрын

    sometimes you NEED a Boolean on a curved surface though... you don't always have the luxury of changing the topology.... thats the tricky part!

  • @truthspeaker7878
    @truthspeaker78784 ай бұрын

    paid addon trash guide thumbs down. ggs go next tutorial