"You can't run a reverse race at Silverstone due to safety issues." Monaco: "Hold my beer"

@jamiedenton2321

4 жыл бұрын

Ikr. One word, Baku.

@TheJokerit19

4 жыл бұрын

@@jamiedenton2321 There would be room to create escape roads for some of the corners in the opposite direction, but not all of them, and that's where the problem lies.

@glorious_help

4 жыл бұрын

Dennis B even Singapore, yet these KZread experts ...

@TheJokerit19

4 жыл бұрын

@@glorious_help The same as with Baku.

@jamiedenton2321

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheJokerit19 But cranes can be used to remove any wrecks from those corners and where this isn't possible then a red flag for 5-10 mins while the vehicle is loaded onto a flatbed isn't the end of the world. Silverstone has more runoff than Monaco, Singapore, Baku, Canada and Brazil combined, in forward, reverse or upside down. I feel like this idea isn't simple but it can be completely within the realms of possibility. Edit: It would be significant effort to prep the track for a reverse race though, I wouldn't mind just running Silverstone multiple times in the normal layout if I'm honest.

run a reverse race at monaco theres no run off to start with so it can’t get any worse

@darkkip3684

4 жыл бұрын

agreed go wild

@jjcooper9549

4 жыл бұрын

HaHa, Yes Please!!!

@isaaclyonsf1

4 жыл бұрын

Great idea😂👍

@mattslip179

4 жыл бұрын

There is run off though. End of Sainte Devote, Mirabeau, Nouvelle Chicane and the final corner all have space for cars to run wide if they miss the braking zone or crash

@Good_Horsey

4 жыл бұрын

Shit, for that matter I'd vote to do the 24h Nurburgring course if we weren't caring about run off areas. Some juicy suspension data could be gathered for sure

2020: "Cars might go wide here, bounce over the gravel trap and tyre barrier, slide over the tarmac, and eventually hit the grandstand and potentially injure someone" 1960: "Cars might go wide here, let's put some hay bales in front of these telephone poles and maybe tell people not to sit in the grass on the outside of a corner" 1930: "Don't go wide"

@TheTeremaster

4 жыл бұрын

"We had the road put there for a reason, stay on it"

@beinzheans3918

3 жыл бұрын

1 BC: kill as much people as possible, bloodbath time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@mercoid

3 жыл бұрын

beinz heans .... geee geee goo goo gaa gaa! Ahuh huuuh!!!

@postapank

3 жыл бұрын

Basicly, all the grandstands are empty now...

@stoutlager6325

3 жыл бұрын

1930 is best. Spin out? Take corner wide? No. Don't. Not allowed. End of discussion.

Imagine spa in reverse Radillon and Eau Rouge would probably be scary AF...

@fishwater

4 жыл бұрын

Grid Autosport had that layout for the GT races and it absolutely is

@glock17games

4 жыл бұрын

@@fishwater "FLy pretties, FLYYYYYYYYYYY"

@harryeyre1322

4 жыл бұрын

There’s a video somewhere of I think ricciardo doing it and it looks scarier than you could even imagine. The road just disappears at 200mph

@Mandarin9900

4 жыл бұрын

@@harryeyre1322 It was Max Verstappen: kzread.info/dash/bejne/lYeTxrippdO-lMY.html

@McMullet97

4 жыл бұрын

You'd be at Eau Rouge, your stomach would be at Radillion 😂😂

I've done this many times on RR3, often with an oncoming car.

@ryanjames2247

3 жыл бұрын

Hey you play real racing 3 too? Nice

Well I'm only 23 seconds in and Stuart has started singing. Guess the lock down is affecting us all huh?

@samarvora7185

4 жыл бұрын

And it affects some more than others.

@sam.s4816

4 жыл бұрын

(Screams loudly) 'IM GOING CRAZY!' 😂😂

@Chris-yy5pj

4 жыл бұрын

Nice rover.

@Sparrowash97

4 жыл бұрын

*incoherent raving in agreement*

This might be your greatest video ever - succinct, informative, even has its own theme tu- oh, there's more

@FightingTorque411

4 жыл бұрын

Very fair points all round - still, it'd be pretty neat if they could, as evidenced here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/n46ty9Whici5l7g.html

@MisoElEven

4 жыл бұрын

Though there are tracks with less run-off areas and they are not really dangerous, for example....street cirquits :D Pretty sure these cars can withstand all this, tires now cant fly off and kill anyone so actually I would say if they really want to race Silversone in reverse they will be able to do it.. or the last solution can be to just have strips slowing cars down like France has but that would probably make the track boring as hell.

@Huntracony

4 жыл бұрын

@@FightingTorque411 That's it! Have them all play the F1 game! No safety issues and everyone can be socially distant so you wouldn't even need to wait for corona to go away.

@utopioidgaming309

3 жыл бұрын

@miso - ‘Tyres can’t fly off’. Kimi wants a word with you... ;)

@3:08 nah leave the grandstand unprotected; rename the corners to clupped and corpse

@wimrfin7110

4 жыл бұрын

this is one underrated comment

@Reydriel

4 жыл бұрын

You could also just have that grandstand be empty, I guess

@TheTeremaster

4 жыл бұрын

@@Reydriel The way we're going all the grandstands would be empty anyway

“You can’t race backwards” Gran Turismo track designers: Hold my beer.

@Zestyclose-Big3127

4 жыл бұрын

NFS Hot Pursuit 2 track designers: Hold my mirror

@52flyingbicycles

4 жыл бұрын

*laughs in Mario Kart

@tyranus1111

4 жыл бұрын

This does explain why i never like the reverse configurations...it always just feels wrong

@Reydriel

4 жыл бұрын

GT Sport's original tracks almost all work pretty well both ways, it's pretty cool. Granted, it's virtual and they don't have to worry about safety at all, so I guess they have much more freedom to design such circuits. Still, I wish we could see Maggiore and both Dragon Trails irl

@klyplays

4 жыл бұрын

Ye let that happen, F1 has become boring anyway.

I've always wanted a reverse track option for the F1 games though. No reason not to really.

@tyle.s9084

4 жыл бұрын

DirtyBlastard Probably some licensing problem

@vsm1456

4 жыл бұрын

@@tyle.s9084 the same devs have no issues using normal and reverse layouts in Grid series. and I absolutely hate it

@pinkharmonica7656

3 жыл бұрын

@@vsm1456 do you know what licensing is?

@zbou23

3 жыл бұрын

@@tyle.s9084if my son grows up to be a lawyer i'll disown him

@notsogreatsword1607

3 жыл бұрын

@@zbou23 you know lawyers don't decide these things right? They just help the executives understand the law and write up paperwork for them. Their job is to protect their clients to the best of their ability. You'd have to be incredibly naive to say something like this. A lawyer can be the best thing that ever happened to you. Without them you're absolutely fucked and people can trample all over your rights. Wait until you grow up and need a lawyer because some sick fuck caused you some harm or cost you everything just to make a buck. You'll be begging some lawyer to help you then.

Actually, there *is* one track licensed to run races in both directions: Knockhill. Only a few problems with that track, though. Like it's only FIA Grade 3, barely 2 kilometres long and in an ultra-rural region of Fife in Scotland. If we double it's track length, spruce up it's runoff and completely excavate it and plop it somewhere closer to Edinburgh, then I think it's good to host F1.

@AndrewGeierMelons

4 жыл бұрын

I love Knockhill but I think F1 cars would just about to airborne 3 or 4 times per lap. It's wild. FIA would never approve of that.

@FightingTorque411

4 жыл бұрын

Heck yes! Scottish Grand Prix, make it so!

@hjjubnh

4 жыл бұрын

Pannonia RIng in Hungary is another one

@daillyarran

4 жыл бұрын

Knockhill Racing Circuit (KRC) just got planning permission for a Grade 1 Upgrade and a 1.6km extension, making it around the same length as the Red Bull Ring and (I think) a bit shorter than Canada. We don't know much, but if the plan is approved, then they'll go for it. The Grade 1 upgrade includes: - 28 Car Pit Lane - Wider Straights + Turns - Improved Crash Barriers, runoff + Kerbing - Grandstands (yay!) - More Marshall Posts - A 1.6km Track Extension, conforming to FIA Grade 1 standards You mentioned about it being in a rural area of Fife. Sadly, yes, this would prevent the possibility of F1 visiting town, as there is only really one 'main' road into KRC and it's a pretty narrow B road. It's already busy enough when BTCC or BSB visit. However, the Council of Fife would try everything to get the F1 circus in, even if that meant making more roads, widening roads etc, I think they'd do it. Tourism would pump that money back.

@chrishumphreys5066

4 жыл бұрын

@@daillyarran Knockhill can't have 'gt3 racing due to noise limits so no chance of F1

One race normal, one in the old Bridge layout, sorted Also seeing the endurance layout at Bahrain brought back some horribly slow and dull memories

@dsf0501

4 жыл бұрын

Same thought, here. The older drivers would surely be up for it!

@Mandarin9900

4 жыл бұрын

Was the Bahrain Endurance layout that bad?

@DaniloVaz72

4 жыл бұрын

@@Mandarin9900 A LOT

@Mandarin9900

4 жыл бұрын

@@DaniloVaz72 That's not a very detailed reason why

@McMullet97

4 жыл бұрын

@@Mandarin9900 Because instead of the fast S section which opens up for overtakes if someone's fluffs their lines, everyone went through the slower section without much option for overtaking. Just watch one of the races there!

Just ask Tilke to add the "what if?" reverse sections on his toolbox

Short answer: No Long answer: No, but explained

@itsmethattimelypenguinakab28

3 жыл бұрын

sagi alex long answer: noooooooooooo

F1 cars are used to dealing with dirty air, they've been social distancing for years.

@tristanbouhez8599

4 жыл бұрын

This comment needs wayyyy more likes

@Zestyclose-Big3127

4 жыл бұрын

@Star Saber VET had been doing that, plus to his team mate, the previous 4

That was quick. 30 seconds. They should just return to 2009 layout. Everything is there. Funny to see the drivers pit in the wrong pit lane.

We should run short layouts as modifications would be minimal and multiple races can be held at the same venue with different tracks.

@TheJokerit19

4 жыл бұрын

Or just keep the same layout without changing anything since all races are different from each other anyway.

@dasraffnix9471

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheJokerit19 But throw in some reverse grids and other stuff.

@kuttispielt7801

4 жыл бұрын

TheJokerit19 Are you joking? were happy if the top 6 aren’t the same for 3 races in a row and you think that a race at the same circuit with the same cars will be different

@TheJokerit19

4 жыл бұрын

@@kuttispielt7801 Yes, of course, it'd be different, no doubt about that. Yes, the top-six might be the same, but not necessarily in the same order, and the same with the rest of the field. No race is ever exactly the same outcome-wise, and the same would be true with two or more consecutive races on the same circuit.

I love the Pringle animation. 😂😂

I swear, your channel is turning me into an F1 fan. I always liked to watch F1 races casually, but now after binge watching your videos, I realized what an intricate and fascinating sport this is.

"Flag the horse" 😂

@wyattroncin941

4 жыл бұрын

Someone's feeling sassy from the isolation

@SN13K3R

4 жыл бұрын

Jussi Raitoniemi I don’t get it 😂

if this was in the 60s people wouldnt fret because of lacking runoff areas they would just tell the drivers not to crash lol

@M00NMAN14

4 жыл бұрын

And then one of them would die...

@HECKproductions

4 жыл бұрын

@@M00NMAN14 yes exactly which is why i prefer today where we are very keen on making the tacks as safe as possible

@glock17games

4 жыл бұрын

And on average one of them would die per season. Certainly would spice things up again since modern F1 went kind of overboard with safety in the last decade or so.

@ollieh98

4 жыл бұрын

glock_17 I understand its part of the drivers job that they are at risk. But surely, if you can improve safety, and do things which limit the chances of injury and death, you do everything you can to do it? Stop complaining about excess safety, unless you yourself are an F1 driver.

@adr23

4 жыл бұрын

@@glock17games if u want joy in life...just remove brakes of your car and run at 200mph...u will get ur joy back...

A lot of this can be written off from the fact that most F1 events wont have any spectators at the actual circuits, so there is really no point in erecting the grandstands at all ?

9:15 "...Yas Marina Circuit is a man-made circuit..." WAIT, does this mean that other GP circuits are not man-made?, so Silverstone really is a natural wonder spawned from the ground by the grace of the Queen?, did the Ancient Alien Aztecs made the Mexican GP track?, is Susuka the enbodiment of an ancient japaneese spirit?, was Singapore an inside job? WE NEED ANSWERS!! @chainbearf1

@zaynalabideen1259

4 жыл бұрын

What it means is that Other circuits like Silverstone and Spa are built on natural land that was always there However in Abu Dhabi the island it was CONSTRUCTED on is man made this is why you may notice that there is no elevation changes on the racetrack so if they put the money into it (which they could) they could make more land to add more runoff areas. Another example of this is the Palm Jumeirah in Dubai which is a man made island that looks like a palm tree on Google, you should look it up maps look it up.

@jotunr

4 жыл бұрын

@@zaynalabideen1259 ah, you're no fun

@zaynalabideen1259

4 жыл бұрын

@@jotunr OH! I thought you didn't actually understand what he meant my bad.

@pitergriffin01

4 жыл бұрын

yes didnt you know monza was actually made from the ancient roman gods?

@redlightning2322

3 жыл бұрын

@@pitergriffin01 no all tracks were made by Lord Ragunathan the first of his name and our true savior of our glorious sport.

"Get Wellington off on the right foot" I see what you did there

Why don't bring the old gp circuit (with the 'bridge part')?

@kinafermusic2456

4 жыл бұрын

In fairness, what would require more work? Bringing the bridge section up to par again? Or bringing the whole current GP circuit up to par for a reverse race? I don’t think one is much better than the other, as far as work load.

What a peculiar start to a chainbear video

Thank you for the short video. Straight to the point!

Interesting and lots of valid points. A few other suggested solutions; Some grandstands could be not used in the reverse configuration race? Street circuits can be certificated without big run-offs, by provision of tecpro/concrete barriers and catch fences, so could the same not apply here?

@johnpettit6886

4 жыл бұрын

I was just looking at Albert Park, besides tree clearing and elevation changes in potential runoff zones, only a few tweaks would be needed. The 'Carpark section of turn 5 and 4 would have to be slowed down considerably since there would be a lot less runoff at turn 3. Current pit lane entry would be dicey as an exit as well as what to do with turn 11 and 12, but there would be a lot of turning braking corners like turn 9. It might even make it NOT a complete borefest. Edit: using corner numbers from the current clockwise layout. Also very doubtful this would happen.

@wurlyone4685

4 жыл бұрын

@@kukuc96 Marina Bay turn 6, 22, 23?

@johnpettit6886

4 жыл бұрын

@@kukuc96 it was more of a what if they reversed it for possibly better racing, not coming out here twice like it is a European circuit ;) Those corners are tricky (5, 11 and 12) but it isn't going to require drastic changes - mostly just expanding out the runoff. Sorry if it wasn't clear.

@jayprivate825

4 жыл бұрын

Márton Ovád Baku has some ridiculously high speed corners with only concrete barriers and minimal run off areas?

@jayprivate825

4 жыл бұрын

Márton Ovád the same monza that doesn’t have a grade 1 license because it’s an unsafe track yeah? Turns 2 to 3 ( where quite a lot of contact happens ) no run offs, just barriers. Turn 12 to 15, by the time the car reaches turn 15 it’s at maximum acceleration and not far of the top end of speed. Again no run off at all and just barriers, heck even the main straight only has a a run off in line with the straight, nothing at the actual corner itself. No need to try and be a smartarse buddy

5:45 "Crass Abshorption"

@isaaclyonsf1

4 жыл бұрын

😂

@pranavps851

4 жыл бұрын

His brain was running forward and reverse simultaneously

There's actually a circuit in Spain designed also to be raced in the reversed configuration: Guadix Circuit. BUT not FIA Grade 1, not enough road accesses, grandstands and all...

Love you clips every time!

Love your vids chain bear!!! So educational 👨🏾‍🎓😂😂

Top 10 reversed at race 2, if needed non-championship

The Buenos Aires circuit was used in reverse once in F1, and to me it seems that with one change, it could be run backwards nowadays too (in a different series probably, as I don't think it holds a grade 1 licence)

@Alexmarr14Blogspot

4 жыл бұрын

Charlie Whiting (rip) went to check the circuit for it's Grade 1 License a few weeks before he died.

@Jwm367t

2 жыл бұрын

in 1954! During an era when driving through villages with no barriers or run offs was normal (Spa, Reims etc).

Very good explanation, well done. Hadn't thought about this before. Good breakdown of the issues.

Ive never been into racing at all, but your videos are still entertaining to watch! :)

What about running a second Silverstone race on the "old" 1994 - 2009 Grand Prix circuit. E.g. using Abbey as a left / right chicane that runs in to Bridge and then Priory? I know that Bridge and Priory are usually the fan zone, but looking at your pictures and having been to the Silverstone experience back in February I know the old tarmac is still there. The pit exit from the Wing pits wouldn't work, but assume in this instance F1 could use the "old" now National pit and paddock complex between Woodcote and Copse. Would this be possible with a quick one / two week turnaround?

@MarbleYarment

4 жыл бұрын

I went there too, but I think they would have to add some run off areas and extend the track to be slightly wider and also I'm pretty sure the tarmac was different than the one on the proper track but idk.

"But this runoff area and this runoff area would overlap into each other" Americans : *laugh in figure-eight*

@SamnissArandeen

4 жыл бұрын

There are so many great tracks in the US, some former F1 venues, we could use to fill a calendar. Hell, I'd be for allowing each US state to try to host a GP.

@alaeriia01

3 жыл бұрын

Actually, a figure-8 (Suzuka-style, not an intersection) would be really cool for NASCAR. Pack racing with both clockwise and anticlockwise banked turns could lead to interesting strategies, especially since the inside line on turns 1 and 2 would be the outside line on turns 3 and 4.

@SamnissArandeen

3 жыл бұрын

@@alaeriia01 Car setup also wouldn't be able to account for all the turns being in the same direction like on a standard oval. Kinda like Darlington and Pocono each having turns of different radii. Safety issue though: Ovals are anticlockwise in the US so impacts with the wall are with the passenger side of the car. Australian ovals such as Thunderdome go clockwise as their drivers are on the right side.

@HECKproductions

2 жыл бұрын

nascar tracks which have literally no runoff but rather instant wall at the outside of all corners:

I f*cking love you!!!! Best start of any YT video EVER!

So I know nothing about racing other than car goes vroom, but youtube recommended your videos and I have to say you do a pretty good job not only explaining it for a layman but keeping it interesting

Stop it Stuart! One round at Abu Dhabi is more than enough already.

Would’ve been a cool idea to run the previous layout of the track, the one without the wellington straight and has the bridge corner (abbey is a left-hander instead of right)

Just the first 30 secs were enough to get my like... Great start to the video Stuart... 🤣🤣👌

I Just spotted your channel through an old video and I must say, I'm very happy that you have changed your font of choice

I sat at club for the 2019 gp and I can say first hand it would be quite frightening to see cars bolting down the start straight in the other direction...especially if Seb is gonna be hitting Max again 😅

Chainbear: Reverse layouts aren't feasible. Gran Turismo: Hold my Superlicense.

@takatamiyagawa5688

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, none of this matters if they run it in a video game, like they did for Australia this year.

@KuraIthys

4 жыл бұрын

lol. I remember going into a game with a bunch of reverse circuits... So I was all ready for the race to be going the other direction around the same tracks... Only to find that the 'reverse' in the reverse circuit was actually swapping left and right. That's something you can do in a game that you DEFINITELY can't do with a real track. XD

As ever, excellent video.

Thanks for your video!

If a reverse race isn’t possible, I would really enjoy a reverse grid in Silverstone and all tracks for that matter

@ShazenVideos

4 жыл бұрын

That is a really good idea. The finishing order of the first race would be the starting order in reverse for the second race. No practice, no qualifying and no rebuilds necessary.

@scullystie4389

4 жыл бұрын

@@ShazenVideos no qualy I can understand; no practice seems like a bad idea.

How to build “ambidextrous circuits”: Ovals

@eoinkeegan4172

4 жыл бұрын

We have them. But for some strange reason, we can only go left.

@rafleggy2fast526

4 жыл бұрын

@@eoinkeegan4172 The idea of racing ovals in anti-clockwise is that in stock cars you sit on the left side of the car and the wall is up to the right. If you went the other way around, it would be dangerous.

@mpf1947

4 жыл бұрын

@@rafleggy2fast526 The funny thing about that is that races at England's Rockingham Motor Speedway (not to be confused with North Carolina's Rockingham Speedway) used to be run counterclockwise in spite of most of the cars that raced on that oval being right-hand drive. Australia, on the other hand, got it right when they built Calder Park's Thunderdome: Auscar ran clockwise and NASCAR Australia ran counterclockwise.

@Zestyclose-Big3127

4 жыл бұрын

_Ferrari takes a one-two, followed by a rare Racing Point 3-4 and Alpha Tauri 5-6. It was a DNS for everyone else_

@KuraIthys

4 жыл бұрын

@@rafleggy2fast526 huh. So the opposite reason of airport circuits then. Civilian pilots also generally sit on the left, and unless the airport has functional restrictions, you perform a circuit using exclusively left-hand turns (eg clockwise). Why? Because from the left-hand side of the aircraft, a left-hand turn gives much better visibility of the runway. That's the second observation in a few hours I've run into where racing and flying have something in common, however indirectly...

ON POINT, watched 25s got all the information I need. Thank you.

THAT WAS GREAT! I’v always wondered about reverse racing!

Get i there Lewis

@spngrm

4 жыл бұрын

More like... siwel ereht ni teg

@pranavps851

4 жыл бұрын

Get out of here Lewis

Imagine going down Eau Rouge. Spa would be the best reverse curcuit

4 жыл бұрын

The point isn’t to kill half the grid but otherwise I agree it would be spectacular

Great video. Sound is way better, thanks for getting a microphone!

Loving 30 sec videos !

Overtaking will be impossible and safety too so I don’t think it won’t happen backwards maybe a different layout?

@thatoneguy7191

4 жыл бұрын

Why would you think overtaking is impossible here?

@chrystales6169

4 жыл бұрын

If anything, overtaking would theoretically be easier because drivers don't have much experience with the track in reverse, and will therefore make more mistakes.

Jonty - posts tweet saying 'you can't do it, here's a couple of reasons, that's all' Stuart - makes video 'you can't do it, here are all the reasons explained fully with all the logic for each reason' I have a feeling there might be a reason why you're far more successful 😂😂😂

Used to these reverse course challenges in Real Racing 3 to get vehicles. As a concept, it is a piece of work relearning the track. But yeah, relearning routes led to a ton of crashes in those area without runoff. Great video peering into track design and safety.

Yes I love when Chainbear is in my notifications. Hit like button before I watch because I know it’s going to be fantastic.

FIA: We're cancelling too many races Silverstone: Anti-clockwise races? Chainbear: No

I'd really like to see this as a series! Analyse different tracks in reverse or alternative configs and even some other tracks, that maybe would fit current cars and regulations. And I think Austin and Singapore would be doable. the worst would probably be Austria, bc at the new final turn you're heading towards a wall with no run off

I'm glad we're having this conversation, doing F1 tracks in reverse would be pretty fun. In old NFS games you could run maps in reverse, it was pretty challenging. I think doing some races in reverse is an awesome idea. It's not easy but it's doable

when motogp raced at indianapolis they ran the grand prix road course in reverse (although the layout kinda changed a bit like making an infield chicane near the pit straight banking and the double chicane part turned into a left hander and sharp right)

All this leads to one perfect solution: F1 at Knockhill

I knew when I heard the proposal to run Silverstone in reverse for Formula 1 it sounded pretty fishy. This just isn’t a video game like Mario Kart or F1 2019; this is real life with real non-ideal world physics and real life or death consequences for the drivers. What would be a nice slow climb through a corner before a final straight on a normal non-reversed approved track could potentially become a deadly corner that easily overload’s an F1 cars brakes and tires. I’d rather miss a single race on a calendar than miss any of our 20 drivers.

@pinkharmonica7656

3 жыл бұрын

r/Iamverysmart

Enjoyed the video. Would love to see more overlooks of current videos and why they can't run reverse (though some tracks would have some potential, like Bahrain (minus the "new" final section I suppose) or Austin).

Thank you for being the voice of reason, as usual.

I would love a circuit that includes some of these reverse corners

@BvG_Venom

4 жыл бұрын

Did someone say Paul Ricard?

Remember when Imola wanted to replace the Chinese GP? Hopefully that can materialise at some point.

@LoganHunter82

4 жыл бұрын

Imola AND Mugello

@freddiebarry6978

4 жыл бұрын

@@LoganHunter82 both awesome

@dinhocolo13

4 жыл бұрын

Imola could be good, but Mugello is to narrow for F1 cars. Apart from the first corner there are no places where the drivers could go side by side

@redlightning2322

3 жыл бұрын

@@dinhocolo13 yeah about that......

Great video

You mention the walls being designed with only one direction in mind and it reminded me of an incident at the Walt Disney World Speedway. They were doing some program with people driving Lamborghinis around the track, but in the clockwise direction instead of the anticlockwise direction it was designed for. One of the drivers lost control and hit the end of one of these barriers, not protected because it wasn't designed to be hit from that angle, and the result was the passenger (an instructor) being killed, while the driver was also injured.

We could do a reverse Monaco. It practically has no runoffs.

@ShiftRGaming

4 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately that round has already been cancelled

@kishorkafle

4 жыл бұрын

NakariNova i was just talking about reversing the direction in general. If any circuit gets cancelled they won’t be run. If they aren’t, they will definitely go the designed layout.

@pommyadam

4 жыл бұрын

through the tunnel into Lower-Mirabeau? down the hill into St Devote (with cars slowing down early for a pit entry)? I'd admit the rest of it could work, but those two issues are fairly major

@Soldier9464

4 жыл бұрын

Lower Mirabeau? I'm assuming u mean portier. That corner would work as the road continues on straight after the tunnel so runoff could be setup there. Antony Noghes would be just horrible in reverse. Very little room for runoffs, high speed approach, much narrower than St Devote (with no room to add in extra area on the inside like turn 1) and the pitlane entry (now the exit in reverse) would be a nightmare as well

Is Brands Hatch still licensed for F1? That would be a good watch! Maybe not so much overtaking but full of tricky corners

@chrishumphreys5066

4 жыл бұрын

Again Not long enough under 3.5k

@gsnedders_legacy

4 жыл бұрын

No, it isn't. No other circuits in the UK have grade 1 licenses at this point (it's a lot of money for very little gain).

Haha.....great video as usual.

Stood at the entry of Abbey for the WEC last year, watching the LMP1 cars go through was brill. Can only imagine how immense it would be to watch the F1 grid come towards you in qualifying and a race

No run offs in monaco, where is the issue 😁

@AndrewGeierMelons

4 жыл бұрын

That's a question of geometry and angles that Stuart has covered before. Ironically, because of the narrow width of Monaco, it actually is kinda safer, because the narrow width of the track doesn't allow for the car to build up a crazy amount of inertia, to hit the wall at an ugly angle.

@shaylanroy583

4 жыл бұрын

It's much slower

@AndrewGeierMelons

4 жыл бұрын

@@shaylanroy583 - much slower than what? Have you seen the sections at St. Devote and Piscine?

@L.internet8

4 жыл бұрын

@@AndrewGeierMelons Even the life ending Lorenzo Bandini accident in 67 was mostly because of the car safety

@daniellee4003

4 жыл бұрын

Street circuits are fundamentally different from tracks and are held to completely different standards by the FIA. Whether that actually makes sense is another thing.

We need donnington back!!!

We run events on street circuits like Baku where there aren't typically runoffs, just put up barriers and treat it like a street circuit. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Austin is fantastic track we need more like those

this could be a broader video about any track (just about), but focused on silverstone. do this analysis on more tracks.

Who is here after they announced Silverstone may host 2 races this year?

looks dangerous, I love it

Montreal is probably out for having far too many slip roads and barriers in the opposite direction, but man would that Wall of Champions be a manic race start 🤣 It's worth investigating if any tracks could do it. Hungary, Bahrain, China?

In my honest opinion, this won't work. Instead of Reversing Silverstone, F1 should make a pit stop at Brands Hatch. Or, even Nurburgring, maybe?

FIA Grade 1 is meaningless. Monaco does not meet Grade 1, but is raced for "Historic" reasons.

@FullOilBarrel

4 жыл бұрын

thats bullshit, its grade 1 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circuit_de_Monaco

Wow great points. Undeniably can’t be done. Safely. Damn was really hoping for this but not at the expense of the drivers safety. Oh and the safety of the spectators.

I think I saw somewhere that knockhill in Scotland is setup for both closkwisr and anti-clockwise layouts.

Yay I’m early

I really liked this corner by corner analysis and would like to see something like this for all current circuits with corners that have names

at my local karting center we occassionally run races backwards and this is really great you kinda know the track but still have to learn it properly but you can feel which direction it was built for

That's why I love the Berlin E-Prix, the two races on both directions are refreshing

If they could change directions in the middle of the circuit you would only have to fix one side of the circuit, that would require some sort of underpass or something like that, pretty sure it might not make sense financially but hey it’s a possibility and it would be cool to watch cars going under and over at the same time.

I would like to see a return of the 2009 layout. Although the bridge straight might need re-surfacing (since it's not been used for so long) but the run-offs and access points are already facing in the right direction, and it should be grade one as most of it is still used anyway, so it would need less re-arranging

totally need to design tracks with both directions in mind. that would be a great addition to all forms of racing

@chrisc3825

4 жыл бұрын

@@kukuc96 Probably to do it at this point to existing tracks is highly unlikely as this video points out, but to design tracks from the get-go that work in reverse would not be that much more expensive and could potentially attract more races to the venue

@chrisc3825

4 жыл бұрын

Márton Ovád double the runoffs and walls that pivot and grandstands that are well placed. I can’t imagine that adding more than 10% price to a track creation, if that. Out of the entire cost to build a track, I bet only roughly 50% is actual construction with the rest be purchasing the land and getting all the permits, approval, and designing. Then imagine construction - moving all the land, flattening, paving, etc. I can’t a few extra gravel pits costing more than 10% of the total cost. A few million still? Sure. But worth it? If you can increase the big races by even 1 or 2 a year, you almost immediately pay that off. At least that’s what I imagine.

@chrisc3825

4 жыл бұрын

Let me add that tracks add multiple layouts all the time at far far greater costs and they justify that somehow.

yeah! F1 should come to Hockenheim again! Great Video, Chain Bear!

Interesting!!! Cheers

It would be interesting to see different configurations of the same tracks

It's good that thoughts are being had though to how we can make more races with existing infrastructure. I think we should go to to a 2020-2021 super season, get in what ever races we can this season then the following year if an alternative configuration can be run at tracks visited this year then use it. I'd also look to run a short 2021 sprint season on short tracks where appropriate so if teams want to join in 2022 they can have a short run at getting stuff run properly. So a weekend would run Friday: 45 minute short track FP1, followed a short 15 minute qualifying, a 45 minute break then a 75km race. Then a break of an hour, followed by a standard FP2 for the GP. Saturday & Sunday then run as normal

Some of the F1 racers tried this out when they were streaming on Twitch lol