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  • @magmidt
    @magmidt5 жыл бұрын

    Next collaboration with Jujimufu and Tom Boyden in only a month from now!

  • @SinoSene

    @SinoSene

    5 жыл бұрын

    Wooohooo!

  • @F3EDER

    @F3EDER

    5 жыл бұрын

    Wow! Looking forward to that! It was that collab that made me start climbing. Trained for three months now and started at 5b-5c and am now at 6c for toprope and about the same for bouldering. Watching you climbing 8a and above with such ease having tested grips like that is nothing short of stunning. My dream is 7a right now. Mad respect for what you do and what you contribute to the scene through your videos!

  • @carlosslim4916

    @carlosslim4916

    5 жыл бұрын

    Awesome!!!! I hope they come to Norway this time as you always seem to lose your luggage 😁

  • @magmidt

    @magmidt

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@carlosslim4916 Hahah

  • @poodrancher

    @poodrancher

    5 жыл бұрын

    yayayayay!!!!!

  • @user-cv7ey6fb4c
    @user-cv7ey6fb4c5 жыл бұрын

    This is random but I really like the fact that Tor Johnsson took time and made sure to state that he wants to make sure the rope gets tied properly and that he takes his role in keeping someone safe seriously. I think most people would have just laughed about it and paid very little attention to it, not mentioning it. Respect the guy a lot.

  • @m0o54i

    @m0o54i

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hmm.. I belay my two friends multiple times a week and I (and them) check each others knots every time.

  • @lucassund8605

    @lucassund8605

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@m0o54i as you should

  • @turevedin9968

    @turevedin9968

    3 жыл бұрын

    Nah it's just how most people do it. You check each others gear

  • @titlo3646

    @titlo3646

    2 жыл бұрын

    buddy checking is important. You could find something that they overlooked.

  • @FanOfTLE

    @FanOfTLE

    Жыл бұрын

    @@titlo3646 It is like you don't check once and the other one dies

  • @LukeRockCimber
    @LukeRockCimber5 жыл бұрын

    I think we all want to join this climbing crew!

  • @jeremyredd4232
    @jeremyredd42325 жыл бұрын

    I have to say I super appreciate the V scale and Yosemite Decimal in parenthesis.

  • @EricKarlsson
    @EricKarlsson5 жыл бұрын

    that thumbnail is art!

  • @bowlcut880

    @bowlcut880

    5 жыл бұрын

    Your biceps while climbing are art ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

  • @EricKarlsson

    @EricKarlsson

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@bowlcut880 haha

  • @sschneider9247

    @sschneider9247

    5 жыл бұрын

    Did Felix not want any screen time?! We love him :)))

  • @stefanwossner2007
    @stefanwossner20075 жыл бұрын

    As I already said on Eric’s channel, greatest collaboration ever! Keep it coming!

  • @joeyzig
    @joeyzig5 жыл бұрын

    So funny when you pointed out the how unpurposefully adorable they were being at 20:00, "couple goals" hahahaha. I think that is the first time I have seen Eric climb, lol. Love the collab, great video you guys!

  • @edulatorrev
    @edulatorrev5 жыл бұрын

    Oh! it's really awesome to see you guys together inspiring climbers with your videos, I hope you still making videos together ❤️

  • @GingerTrain
    @GingerTrain5 жыл бұрын

    Your opening shots are always so beautiful, keep up the awesome videos!

  • @mathkillaz
    @mathkillaz5 жыл бұрын

    Love seeing Eric push himself! Way to go man. And good on Magnus for pushing him to do it! Amazing collab guys hope there’s more to come.

  • @DominikNal
    @DominikNal5 жыл бұрын

    Great video. Love both channels, awesome to see everyone climbing together!

  • @davidcuevas4792
    @davidcuevas47925 жыл бұрын

    Man, I love you guys! Completely awesome to watch and here the FIGHT within. As ALWAYS, Thank You for the footage, and the time you put into bringing it to us! CLIMB ON, david!

  • @WARLEOD
    @WARLEOD5 жыл бұрын

    Has been awesome following you guys this time around! Keep it up boys!

  • @cyziostep
    @cyziostep5 жыл бұрын

    You guys are super rad. Great crew, awesome climbing!

  • @PompTheMoose
    @PompTheMoose5 жыл бұрын

    I would love to see more videos of you climbing with your voiceovers that go really in depth to everything you're doing. You haven't had any of those in a while and I learned a TON from those. I love both styles of video but a few more walkthroughs would be really great!

  • @nickhood4073
    @nickhood40735 жыл бұрын

    Keep the uploads coming, Magnus! Love em!

  • @andre.rascol
    @andre.rascol5 жыл бұрын

    YOUR VIDEOS ARE FREAKIN AWESOME!! Keep up the quality content!

  • @Biomirth
    @Biomirth4 жыл бұрын

    I love the support you guys gave to Eric who hadn't climbed in 4 years: No pressure, no condecension, no teasing, but no soft touch. Very manly yet sweet and caring I thought. A good group of fellas.

  • @fat82much
    @fat82much5 жыл бұрын

    Good to see you Eric working so hard! Very inspiring :)

  • @Petitgaaateau
    @Petitgaaateau5 жыл бұрын

    Way to go Eric. Good to see you climb.

  • @jrnblue
    @jrnblue5 жыл бұрын

    Great job. Not only is the content awesome but the filming, editing and music is top notch. I'm impressed.

  • @Leiava
    @Leiava5 жыл бұрын

    Yeah! so stocked when i saw there was a new video! :D As always, so fun to watch! Thanks

  • @adamshephard5053
    @adamshephard50535 жыл бұрын

    I know you said you have done it loads, but you bossed that purple 8a+ Magnus! Absolutely tore it apart

  • @MrHeroicDemon

    @MrHeroicDemon

    4 жыл бұрын

    makes everything look so easy, then you see normal humans try and they look like they are dying lol.

  • @carlosslim4916
    @carlosslim49165 жыл бұрын

    Tor is a Viking God! This was a really fun video, you guys have great chemistry!!!! Looking forward to the Ice climbing for your 100k sub special!!

  • @leonakadir3833
    @leonakadir38335 жыл бұрын

    these collaborations are so good!

  • @ggreyshade
    @ggreyshade5 жыл бұрын

    awesome climbing guys, recently took up top rope and bouldering and am loving it. thanks keeping me inspired and showing me what's possible if i keep at it long enough

  • @bernhardlangers778

    @bernhardlangers778

    5 жыл бұрын

    You will eventually run into a plateau. The important part then is to just keep going, doing a lot of routes at that level. Mine was 6c. That was really something else initially, but by now it is either endurance or just one move that keeps me from sending on the first go. 6c+ is another beast altogether. Depends on the route a lot and generally requires a lot of finger strength. Have a couple of 7as in the book, but am yet to flash a 6c+. So just keep going and things will start to feel easier as time progresses. And most importantly: Don't get injured.

  • @BoulderingBobat
    @BoulderingBobat5 жыл бұрын

    Dam son killing the game

  • @marquixxxable
    @marquixxxable5 жыл бұрын

    Very impressiiiiiiiiiive as always. Bravo to all of you

  • @Aluminiumer
    @Aluminiumer5 жыл бұрын

    You guys and juju are my fav youtubers. Thanks for the countless hours of quality content. Greetings from germany

  • @michelefranciotta
    @michelefranciotta5 жыл бұрын

    Magnus! You just blasted 100K subs, I'm sooo happy for you man! I started following when it was 400 (actually FOUR HUNDREDS) and I'm blown away by how your channel turned out to be. Keep going man, thank you for the inspiration :)

  • @jesuitlacrosse
    @jesuitlacrosse5 жыл бұрын

    I love those sky shots above the building!

  • @mboexs4allnl
    @mboexs4allnl5 жыл бұрын

    Your videos are to good Magnus. I always want to watch them more than once. Just because of the nice edit and cool music. (Next to the climbing content ofcourse.)

  • @chillierdavro
    @chillierdavro5 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant collaboration - you guys got me back into climbing again, I'm currently breaking in my new Scarpa Furia-S shoes :) Thanks for all the hard work!

  • @willthr336

    @willthr336

    5 жыл бұрын

    David Stevens how are the furia s? I was going to get them but couldn’t find them to try on in stores so I was scared about them not fitting right, do they fit a narrow foot or a broad one?

  • @chillierdavro

    @chillierdavro

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@willthr336 I have a fairly wide foot I'm normally a size UK 11 these news ones are UK 9 1/2 Many climbers (myself included) dramatically downsize their aggressive climbing shoes. But with the Furia S, I think you have to be extra careful not to downsize too much. your feet and experience may differ, so I’d first and foremost recommend that you try on the Furia S to see how it works with your feet. I find the Furia S to be very comfortable considering how tight they are, especially for such a downturned shoe, they really hold the front part so you can climb quite well with the heel unslipped. But once completely on the rubber seems very sticky and malleable, one of the softest shoes I’ve ever worn. Think they are going to take 10/20 climbing sessions to break in. But now my old red chilli climbing shoes feel like slippery carpet slippers now in comparison.

  • @chillierdavro

    @chillierdavro

    5 жыл бұрын

    @Willthr A month later they have broken in and I'm pleased with them, really grippy rubber nice workmanship and I'm enjoying climbing again so I'm quite a happy chap.

  • @BariumCobaltNitrog3n
    @BariumCobaltNitrog3n4 жыл бұрын

    Magnus, I love your drone shots. They are clean and smooth.

  • @Jameswashbrook1988
    @Jameswashbrook19885 жыл бұрын

    Such good viewing! Keep it up guys

  • @TobyClimbs
    @TobyClimbs5 жыл бұрын

    Saw both notifications at once this was a hard choice

  • @ExplaurenwithLauren
    @ExplaurenwithLauren5 жыл бұрын

    Those muscles though! 😘😍 Compliments to all of you guys. So much talent and beautiful video production!

  • @toddwalsh3332
    @toddwalsh33325 жыл бұрын

    It is so nice to watch a troll free channel! Love it !

  • @ninapaprocki487
    @ninapaprocki4875 жыл бұрын

    When these two collab I drop everything and click.

  • @bumbibjorn1964
    @bumbibjorn19645 жыл бұрын

    Nice one! Really liked the choice of music :)

  • @EthanRuckel
    @EthanRuckel5 жыл бұрын

    You're editing is top notch!

  • @amirkhadiev
    @amirkhadiev5 жыл бұрын

    Nice directing, Magnus!

  • @TheBlueMan4567
    @TheBlueMan45675 жыл бұрын

    Woah I was not expecting but loved that music shift from the usual ambient music at 13:43!

  • @UrianArt
    @UrianArt4 жыл бұрын

    You guys are really good friends and good bunch of guys, I feel really watching you :) I feel like Eric is the little brother of everyone xD

  • @sindrenavelsaker9538
    @sindrenavelsaker95385 жыл бұрын

    And congrats on getting 100k subs!

  • @dave_h_8742
    @dave_h_87423 жыл бұрын

    Watching vlogs KZread throws my way & watching all adverts till they stop to help Magnus at Christmas

  • @NickSinghSG
    @NickSinghSG5 жыл бұрын

    2:26 Hi I'm Magnus and I make simple rock-climbing videos for the internet. This is my dslr and.... this is my crane. 😂

  • @henning_jasper
    @henning_jasper5 жыл бұрын

    Loved it!!! Want more collab with Eric Karlsson Bouldering :D

  • @4wardlobster
    @4wardlobster5 жыл бұрын

    Damn, Eric putting in work

  • @statom4745
    @statom47455 жыл бұрын

    This feeling when Magnus disturbed you in studying://

  • @chaseramos4865

    @chaseramos4865

    5 жыл бұрын

    I have a chemistry exam I should really be studying for right now....

  • @korbendallas1210
    @korbendallas12102 жыл бұрын

    Besides everything that is obviously cool in this video, I really like the gym itself. I wish we have such one in my city.

  • @theodoreraby4037
    @theodoreraby40375 жыл бұрын

    Hey Magnus great Vlog as always !! You guys make a awesome team. I saw a MoonBoard in your climbing gym on the background of Eric's Vlog. I think it would be really cool to see you on it, just an idea ;) ;)

  • @itsame4002
    @itsame40025 жыл бұрын

    Come kick it in Colorado and Utah! Got hella love for you guys over here ❤️❤️

  • @jackkelly324
    @jackkelly3245 жыл бұрын

    awesome collab

  • @hansfrost-schimpf2110
    @hansfrost-schimpf21105 жыл бұрын

    Would be great to see this collaboration climbing in some different places (e.g. DWS in a warmer part of the planet).

  • @MUuulerOriginal
    @MUuulerOriginal5 жыл бұрын

    The thumbnail is straight up 🔥

  • @kemicalyemster
    @kemicalyemster5 жыл бұрын

    super dope video!

  • @jeeperscreepers7
    @jeeperscreepers75 жыл бұрын

    great vid!

  • @amazingsil
    @amazingsil5 жыл бұрын

    Spotted the moonboard in there finally..would be cool to see a video or two on it. Maybe a collaboration with Paul Robinson on a game of Moon Pig?

  • @iliketololz
    @iliketololz5 жыл бұрын

    Top tier Vlog my boy

  • @icedlatt3
    @icedlatt35 жыл бұрын

    Magnus: "It's like autopilot, I've done this so many times" 17:04 Magnus casually takes off his shoes while still being descended. (yep, autopilot alright xD)

  • @daanieuhejh3598
    @daanieuhejh35982 жыл бұрын

    quite confident with the slack.. omg

  • @MightyMushroo0m
    @MightyMushroo0m5 жыл бұрын

    Watching Magnus cruise that 8a+ was just something else man #goals

  • @alexandrasalesman
    @alexandrasalesman5 жыл бұрын

    Holy shit. I was biting my nails the entire time and my heart was racing during that first crux! 🙈It's a different world when you're watching from above compared to below.

  • @TheRandomSpectator
    @TheRandomSpectator5 жыл бұрын

    Man, I can't wait for the day when lead climbing anything 5.10+ or above doesn't absolutely terrify me.

  • @SirRabbit

    @SirRabbit

    5 жыл бұрын

    Sometimes not knowing the grade is a good thing. when I started leading I wasn't comfortable on anything higher than a 5.8, but I projected 5.9s, not a lack of ability, so much as just a fear of whipping, but one day my gym did a reset and they love to wait a few weeks before grading, so I hope don what I thought for sure was a 5.9 one day trying to push myself and flashed it, later they graded it as a 5.10. But it gave me the confidence I needed to really start pushing my leading harder than I was.

  • @TheRandomSpectator

    @TheRandomSpectator

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@SirRabbit thanks for the morale boost. I should start doing that, especially since my climbing partner always gives me shit for not going after the harder stuff/whippers (to get over the fear if nothing else).

  • @sylvernale

    @sylvernale

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@TheRandomSpectator imo, of you're doing fall training always do it in a way that doesn't leave you terrified, so you don't reinforce the fear. I like to train extremely small increments of falls so that it's anticlimactic (i.e falling at the bolt for every bolt, or slightly above for every bolt). Opposed to forcing myself into mega victory whippers which might cement my fear of it

  • @TheRandomSpectator

    @TheRandomSpectator

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@sylvernale That's a really good point, thanks for sharing. Unfortunately I don't get to climb much these days since I can't afford to go to a gym every week, and all the crags are at least an hour away, but I'll try to keep this in mind.

  • @maciejszeszula9742
    @maciejszeszula97425 жыл бұрын

    Next collaboration: Thor climbing with Jason Momoa

  • @hi_im_angie
    @hi_im_angie5 жыл бұрын

    You guys are all so sweet to each other. I love how supportive climbers are.

  • @yiftach4928
    @yiftach49285 жыл бұрын

    magnus, climbing like you is my dream.

  • @jakobraap733
    @jakobraap7335 жыл бұрын

    i love the way thor pronounces the word jug :D

  • @SakiDG

    @SakiDG

    5 жыл бұрын

    yug

  • @Thystonius
    @Thystonius5 жыл бұрын

    Just got back from Mallorca... it's a superb climbing island!

  • @echtogammut
    @echtogammut5 жыл бұрын

    Has Magnus done a video on the guys who design these walls? I was really stuck by how much thought went into those routes.

  • @lawrencetchen
    @lawrencetchen5 жыл бұрын

    Tor tying Eric's knot ❤️

  • @thatonespecialsnowflake5486
    @thatonespecialsnowflake54865 жыл бұрын

    I would love to go to your climbing gym! If I ever visit norway, I'll be sure to drop by.

  • @randomberk
    @randomberk5 жыл бұрын

    I love all these videos. Such good fun. Is Thor really the nicest bloke in the world? It seems so.

  • @TEKRific
    @TEKRific5 жыл бұрын

    #CoupleGoals! Thanks for a great video!

  • @nicholasvartanian2760
    @nicholasvartanian27605 жыл бұрын

    Id watch a DWS trip 😊😊😊

  • @joshuarugg8499
    @joshuarugg84995 жыл бұрын

    Brother juji and tom are really rubbing off on you man, your jokes and burns are so much better. I thought the "couple goals" was hilarious. And did you notice when you said that Thor hugged Erik, and Erik threw his head back on Thor awwww

  • @kikiliptus
    @kikiliptus5 жыл бұрын

    beasts ! i enjoy the vid :3

  • @haveawonderfulday279
    @haveawonderfulday2795 жыл бұрын

    It's an amazing video. Thor please watch out not to give that much slack, it's dangerous 🙈.

  • @Rowgue51

    @Rowgue51

    5 жыл бұрын

    He wasn't giving much slack. The fact that the last place Eric clipped in prior to letting go was almost a body length below him is why it looked like there was a bunch of slack.

  • @TSNchannel
    @TSNchannel5 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic climbing centre, is It un Norway? Good video

  • @johnmagnesingelstad5265
    @johnmagnesingelstad52652 жыл бұрын

    Cool video! good job guys! What kind of harness knot is that ? (The one that Eric's got at the end )

  • @thinkpad20
    @thinkpad205 жыл бұрын

    t's clear that Emil is on an elite level of climbing by any description of the word. Why hasn't he been in any IFSC events? Is it common for climbers of that calibre to not compete? I know Magnus retired, but not sure about Emil. Either way I love the videos, watching you guys climb is nothing short of inspiring! :)

  • @chrishardy6471

    @chrishardy6471

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yeah pretty common just depends how convenient it is usually

  • @_sl3600

    @_sl3600

    5 жыл бұрын

    I think Emil mentioned he might compete soon in a recent video (might have been in the first of this collab, actually).

  • @thinkpad20

    @thinkpad20

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@_sl3600 Yeah I remember seeing that. Mostly curious how common it was for someone to reach a level where they could be competitive at professional events and not (yet) doing it. That might be kind of unique to climbing? I'm glad he's considering it! I'd love to see how he stacks up against some of the top climbers.

  • @Woodroffski

    @Woodroffski

    5 жыл бұрын

    He's certainly got potential, but he really needs to work on his tactics and mental game, which are really far off the mark.

  • @babsds0

    @babsds0

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@thinkpad20 Emil is definitely an amazing climber, but I think you seriously underestimate the level of competition present at ifsc climbing events. Emil would need to do some serious competition style training if he wanted to be even slightly competitive on an international level, since being talented alone is simply not enough. At an estimate I'd say 80% of the people who climb in senior ifsc boulder events have bouldered v13 or harder outdoors, and almost everyone who has made finals boulders at least v14. Fredrik is slightly better than Emil ,and even he was only placing in the mid to lower end of the rankings out of all the competitions he participated in, and even Ondra (arguably the best climber of all time) missed finals in the boulderng world championships this year.

  • @katydid5088
    @katydid50884 жыл бұрын

    5:05 The mighty locks of Thor flow

  • @tplenderleath
    @tplenderleath5 жыл бұрын

    "Couple goals" hahaha

  • @mattinahat6475
    @mattinahat64755 жыл бұрын

    My favourite par was "NNNJAARRRGHHH!!!!"

  • @davidcuevas4792
    @davidcuevas47925 жыл бұрын

    I noticed Thors particular muscle at the base of forearm. He would probably be a great arm wrestler. lol No worries, climbing works the best. Great job guys!

  • @wik-kidparkour1570
    @wik-kidparkour15704 жыл бұрын

    Magnus you are ridiculously efficient

  • @paullegloan1502
    @paullegloan15025 жыл бұрын

    Damn look at Eric's guns

  • @kristoffermoen7036
    @kristoffermoen70365 жыл бұрын

    what knot is that? the one they are using to tie into the harness. never seen that before

  • @DaseinClimbs
    @DaseinClimbs2 жыл бұрын

    God what a beautiful place to live

  • @jazzbassinc.2726
    @jazzbassinc.27265 жыл бұрын

    Perfect videoooo, what knot variation is Eric using by the way?

  • @philipppuchner1115

    @philipppuchner1115

    5 жыл бұрын

    Bowline Knot. There are just 2 knots used to tie in the rope. The figure of eight and the bowline knot. Last one, because it is much more easy to untie, even if you fell in the rope. That's the reason for the figure of 8, because o normal overhand knot gets so tight when weighted, that you can't untie anymore. Bowline disadvantage: it is not as easy to check while partner check, while everybody knows a figure of eight knot and can see if it is right from far away.

  • @kickassDOM
    @kickassDOM5 жыл бұрын

    What knot is that they are using to tie in to? Never seen it before. Not my trusty old figure of 8! :P

  • @TheSargeK5
    @TheSargeK55 жыл бұрын

    What knot did you use to tie in to the climber? I didn’t get a great look but it didn’t appear to be a figure 8.

  • @plansero6376
    @plansero63765 жыл бұрын

    Hey Magnus, do you do any antagonist training? Because it seems you have a very good posture. Maybe you could also film it. Keep it up!

  • @Trouvist
    @Trouvist5 жыл бұрын

    OMG THAT BELAYER WTF... even at 3rd bolt, he still has ground fall potential.

  • @kurtmacdonald8525

    @kurtmacdonald8525

    5 жыл бұрын

    I thought the same thing when I saw the amount of slack he had on the brake hand side. A little Buddha belly on the climber side is good after the ground fall range while not having a lot of slack / distance between brake hand and ATC.

  • @benpoole619
    @benpoole6195 жыл бұрын

    Magnus, I hope you read this comment because the bouldering bobats from Australia called you out when they were climbing with epic tv in this video, WE MADE IT! || Climbing with EpicTV. Also you're an inspiration to me and many others so please keep on crushing and your lead climbing videos are so much more interesting than the bouldering ones so please o more of them. Thank you for taking the time out of your busy life to read this comment.

  • @magmidt

    @magmidt

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for that, I just left them a comment😊

  • @benpoole619

    @benpoole619

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@magmidt No worries, can't wait for the collab in the future hopefully. Who knows they may even lead climb like Eric Karllson Bouldering!!

  • @lewisrobinson6754
    @lewisrobinson67545 жыл бұрын

    What knot was Tor tying when he tied into the harness?

  • @Sean-mc4iq
    @Sean-mc4iq5 жыл бұрын

    Magnus if you could give one tip to your old self when you were around v4-v6, what would it be?

  • @timelineenjoyer

    @timelineenjoyer

    5 жыл бұрын

    Kapsproductions something tells me his v4-6 phase lasted a few months 😂

  • @Planclanman3

    @Planclanman3

    5 жыл бұрын

    Kberiotwhn * a month

  • @derekhunter5040

    @derekhunter5040

    5 жыл бұрын

    "Try harder, train better" it was his answer to three or more of the questions in his q&a vlog.

  • @liam7342
    @liam73425 жыл бұрын

    What are they tying in with?

  • @BNasling
    @BNasling5 жыл бұрын

    Another inspiring vlog, as always! Have you climbed the route up on Preikestolen, Magnus, the one called # Norwegianstyle (I think)?

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