A few notes here since this video is way more popular than I expected haha! 1. As alluded to in the description, I'm not a pro at this stuff and some of it is a bit rough around the edges, and I made a couple of errors in my testing. Sorry about that! Probably the biggest one is that discrepancy between my Monitor's input lag rating on rtings and what you see in the screens during the tests. rtings actually lists multiple measurements for input lag, depending on the refresh rate and resolution of the display (I think I mentioned this in the video) and my monitor definitely wasn't running at it's lowest input lag settings with the RT4K. Not sure if this was related to the monitor refresh rate, resolution, or both. Regardless, the principles of the test still apply, and sorry again for any discrepancies there. 2. I meant to clarify about CRT "input lag" but forgot to include it in the editing process. CRTs draw their picture from the top of the screen to the bottom, the top being "0ms" and the bottom being "16.6ms" iirc. This is where the ~8ms "at the center of the screen" measurement comes from. Retro consoles draw their pictures in the same way (this is something I was educated on yesterday, after publishing the video), meaning that as soon as the console renders a pixel, it's displayed on the CRT "instantly". 3. The Retrotink 4K is definitely expensive, and I wouldn't recommend buying one "just to try and move on from the CRT". It's not a device for everyone, but if you've ever used an OSSC or a Retrotink 5x, and compare that experience with the Retrotink 4K, you'll find it's a much more feature-rich device with far better "plug and play" capabilities. The point of this video wasn't to justify the price by saying "even speedrunners can use it!" or anything like that. If you are looking for price justification, please check out the other channels I mention near the end of the video. They do a far better job diving into the feature set than I could ever hope to. Plus they are all awesome content creators and deserve the recognition. I'm just a guy who play Super Metroid too much and was extremely impressed by the RT4K :) Thank you all for the great feedback, even those of you correcting me and trying to keep me honest. I appreciate it!

This is the most informative video on CRT vs monitor issues for speedrunning I've ever watched. Your examples are really well chosen in the side-by-side footage, and they make it a no-brainer to understand the problems you're illustrating. Great video!

Motion clarity is such an important issue, and I feel like almost no one talks about it. Great video

@crisnmaryfam7344

6 ай бұрын

Must not be watching the same stuff I am. Most of the monitor review videos and Tech of the like are heavily focused on picture clarity while movement is on screen specifically. This is why Nvidia and AMD have been working on "Variable Refresh Rate" tech and "G Sync". While monitor companies have been focused on less motion blur and faster and faster pixel firing. Check out stuff like "HDTVtest" and "Monitors Unboxed"....

@crisnmaryfam7344

6 ай бұрын

This is specifically what is meant when you hear people talk about "1ms response time" or " sub ms" and such. When you look at a monitor or tv box, its usually on the front, in big bold letters. Though that is an advertisement figure and not actual, this is why you go to Monitors Unboxed and HDTVtest for the best trustworthy testing results.

I thought input lag was the major issue. Never considered motion blur. That was a lot more significant than I imagined. I guess I won't be selling my CRT any time soon. Retrotink looks amazing still, loved the consumer trinitron filter

@LetsPlayNintendoITA2023

6 ай бұрын

this video us swag

@NeonPizzas

Ай бұрын

TINK4K's BFI will remove 50% of OLED motion blur since it drops you from a 16ms motion persistence down to around 8ms, which gives you plasma-tier motion clarity, yet cleaner. Latency however may be an issue unless I'm mistaken. I was told > 2ms of lag - Just by using the TINK4K 8.3ms of lag - By using TINK4K's Black frame insertion. 10ms - From your OLED TV's Game mode? Confused about that last one. Because that's another whopping 10ms piled on top of 10ms total from TINK4K. You're looking at about 21ms of lag total. And for me, that just doesn't cut the mustard. I was hoping for 10ms total, not double the amount.

Loved hearing this from a speed-runners perspective, I didn't even consider the blurring effect on modern tvs. nice to see black frame insertion, helping in this regard, the future is looking good. Thanks for video Zeni

Amazing video! I loved the format, and the deep dive into the features/technology!

Great content and delivery. Definitely want to see the follow up with OLED. I've definitely found my LG B2 to be a great display with my superNT.

Thanks for the very informative video. I hope to see you post more when we deep dive into the RT4K capabilities.

Very good analysis here. Been hearing about this a lot and this puts a lot into perspective.

Great video, I really like videos like this and you did an excellent job creating it!!!

Zeni, this was outstanding. Great work.

Finally someone talks about motion blur! Even with an OLED, Tink5x & BFI it drives me nuts. At least with full BFI it's pretty close, but then you can see the screen flickering. I'd be really interested in the motion blur performance of the 4k on an OLED. Mostly if the Tinks BFI delivers better results than the TVs built in BFI. Thanks for making this video.

@theantiveganchannel3596

6 ай бұрын

I got a HD CRT tv problem solved

@Nemesis2K

6 ай бұрын

BFI flicker is not something I notice, I have a C9 with my RT4K and with BFI it looks brilliant

@mikeg2491

6 ай бұрын

@@Nemesis2KI notice bfi flicker when watching movies, but less so playing games

@NeonPizzas

Ай бұрын

SO many gamers these days throw motion clarity under the rug as if it's not even a problem, or exists. It drives me crazy. We were gaming it up motion blur free during the 80's, 90's & early to mid 2000's with CRT Technology. Hilarious how we're still not even there yet with OLED. Yet we will be, by the end of the decade with 3000nit OLED's paired with a new CRT beam technology device that wil brute forces higher hz to achieve a 1ms persistence aka' blur free motion clarity, or 2ms worst case scenario which also incredibly good. ;)

This is exactly the info I wanted. The perfect video.

As other people might have said before me in other comment sections. The fact that this $750 device does NOT have HDMI 2.1 is a dealbreaker for me. This way you cannot do BFI at 4K but have to drop the resolution to 1440p or 1080p which in my opinion is counterproductive to the point of a 4K device. Especially one that has a premium price tag such as this one. Were it $100-$250 I might have understood the decision, but for $750 it should have come with HDMI 2.1 as standard. Hopefully they'll release a plus version or something with HDMI 2.1 for the peolpe who want/need it, then I might buy one. Obviously you can call this nitpicking, but for the amount of money being paid I think it's something people can reasonably expect since almost every OLED produced after 2019 (LG), 2020 supports HDMI 2.1 on at least 2 of their HDMI ports.

This was very informative, never thought motion blur would be a thing to consider when choosing a display. Now I know.

Had no idea about BFI, pretty slick. I upgraded from a cheap LCD TV to a recent-ish monitor and man the difference in motion blur was huuuuge

Fantastic video.

Great video.

Great video. Imo, I'd say the Tink4K + a low latency OLED display is just a better investment over a high end PVM/BVM at this point. But a consumer CRT is still infinitely cheaper, so I wouldn't say CRTs are completely dead yet! The other thing is that CRT filters and BFI don't exactly compress well on YT and Twitch, so for people who want the authentic 240p look while also streaming/capturing, CRTless is not exactly ideal for that case. But if you prefer raw pixels anyway, Tink4K + OLED can absolutely replace a CRT for runners

@ShinyZeni

6 ай бұрын

Yeah I alluded to the capture problem in the video but I forgot to explicitly show the issue. That’s my bad, oh well!

@NeonPizzas

Ай бұрын

The big problem with CRT's, is that even something like a 2005 Sony WEGA Trinitron SD CRT, which is overall the best Consumer CRT you can get, is still 15 years old and will most likely have tons of hours poured into them. There's no way the picture will look as bright as it used to. Colours will have taken a hit and black levels will be lighter, unless you can find a low hour WEGA which are rare and hard to come by these days. Finding one with low hours in good shape is an even bigger hurdle than forking over thousands of dollars for a smaller Samsung QD-OLED (S90D or S90C, aka, the best CRT alternative on the market) & TINK4K imo. The latter two are readily available AND new at least. :P

@Apasher17

Ай бұрын

@@NeonPizzas In this day in age, the "best" CRT is ANY CRT with low hours. Doesn't matter what brand it is. An RCA CRT with low hours can beat out a worn out 2005 WEGA. But your point also brings up another issue: finding someone who knows how to do maintenance on CRTs is even harder, because most of them who did so for a living have either retired or passed on. And working on a CRT can be very dangerous, so the average person can't just fiddle around on an opened-up CRT without knowing what they're doing, because that's how you get hurt.

@NeonPizzas

Ай бұрын

@@Apasher17 I picked up a 1999 27" Sanyo CRT a couple of months ago, and boy do i regret it. :P Colours look a bit desaturated, the image looks abnormally dark and a bit dim, there's splotches on the screen, and the picture just doesn't have the same level of quality vs a Sony Trinitron. It just looks off. Sanyo is notorious for making mediocre CRT's after all. I actually prefer the way my retroUSB 'AVS'(HD NES) looks, with actual carts, via' HDMI on my 4K OLED TV, with a touch or two of scan lines in my AVS's settings. All that's missing is TINK4K's BFI which reduces 50% of motion blur, and it's CRT phospher/softening settings. Can't stand NES games with razor sharp squarey sprites on an HDTV. :P They're supposed to be blended into art, as they were on CRT.

Much appreciated for this video. I love Super Metroid and thank you again for having the technical side of speed running and explaining the nitty gritty of it all for the RetroTink4K

To show the motion clarity difference due to sample&hold you have to actually move the camera along with the scrolling just like your eyes do when tracking the movement on the screen

This is interesting to me. I've had several different CRT tvs since I started speedrunning SMW, and they have all ended up suffering from discoloration, or other technical problems. I think that eventually the supply of CRT tvs are going to deplete and people will have to look for other solutions that are adequate. Even just casually playing with family and freinds, I really do love the CRT.

@ShinyZeni

6 ай бұрын

This is strongly how I feel too! I love my CRT and I’ll use it as long as I can, but with how the market is these days I can’t justify buying another PVM if this one dies and there’s a reasonable alternative that can be a multi-purpose monitor instead of just for my retro gaming. 😕

@prizm9515

6 ай бұрын

@@ShinyZeni Yeah, it kinda makes me want to learn how to fix crts and learn how to replace parts. But I'm sure the parts are harder to come by than the actual TVs.

I always assumed CRT's had 0 input lag, but then I hear other people saying that they have a total of 7-8ms? And is it true that you have to factor in your HDTV game mode's input lag as well, 10ms of latency in my case with my OLED TV, and then add 2-3ms just by using TINK4K, and another 8ms from it's black frame insertion? That's about 21ms of lag total. Think I might just track down another 27" Sony WEGA Trinitron CRT with low hours if that's the case. :P Also, you never want to use the internal BFI on modern 4K TV's. They're half baked, with high latency and rob you of too much brightness. TINK4K's however has a setting that injects HDR10 into BFI for a big brightness boost to compensate for 50% brightness loss caused by TINK4K's internal BFI.

Huh. Might save people from needing crt's and that's great. Getting harder to find 'good' ones. Thankyou for your perspective.

I can indeed confirm that bfi on my c2 oled is crazy good.

thanks for video. I thought about same thing as CRT is getting rarer everyday..

Can you compare lag of Retrotink VS OSSC? I assume OSSC should be slightly faster at 1080p.

This makes me wonder, can it make lightgun games playable on modern displays?

Any video that brings more attention to the importance of motion clarity is great in my book. Also, for 60fps games like Super Metroid, no flat panel with BFI will ever be as clear as a CRT. Well, it may be possible when displays start getting closer to 1000hz refresh rates and with some kind of raster-like scanning over black rather than just a black frame or portion of a frame inserted. Basically impossible for it to be "better" than CRT though.

Those lag measurements ie 2.5ms and such from monitors mean 2.5ms over the 8ms from crt, as crt's are the reference, so 2.5ms means 10.5ms from the monitor vs the 8ms from the crt, all measured at the center of the screen

can you link to a download for the custom scanline profile you use for streams? id love to use it as well, once my unit arrives in the mail

@ShinyZeni

6 ай бұрын

Here's some screenshots of my settings. One of them is an OBS filter called composite blur that you can find easily on Google. imgur.com/a/BQBTjQl

Could using the RT4k just be a new learning curve? If someone has never played super metroid and started on the RT4k, got used to how things look on the RT4k, would that be detrimental to a speed run attempt? I think this is all based on perspective. You're using a new device to emulate an existing device and emulation will never be exactly the same. Would be a good experiment to have someone learn on the RT4k and see the results. To a RT4k user, a crt tv would be wrong.

Is BFI with HDR Injection going to be dangerous for an OLED?

Can anyone explain to me how the Retrotink 4k BFI can cause image retention on a LCD panel but not on a OLED. Seems backwards to me.

10:40 It can also be the cause of some nasty Nasty headaches from playing very short amounts of time rather than extended ones. Like watching a strobe light, except rather than just around you, You are hard focusing on the strobe. This varies per person of course. Some people are more photosensitive, hence those warnings on many anime and such.

@gcolombelli

5 ай бұрын

Some TVs already do black frame insertion by themselves. Remember the very first TVs claiming to have 120Hz or even 240Hz screens? They were doing either BFI, or strobing the backlight a few times per frame, or some other weird stuff like that, they couldn't really show more than 60 frames per second, they were just using those gimmicks to try to make it look better. Also, some cheaper TVs and monitors use an 6 bit per component panel with temporal dithering instead of a true 8 bit per component panel. I wouldn't be surprised if some of the claimed "HDR" displays weren't HDR at all and are just using that same trick to claim to have more color depth than they really have.

Those scanline profiles never really match what a 1000 line BVM can do. The lines are essentially razor sharp, where it's 50% pixel, 50% scanline. So from my experience scanline profiles are just what people think/want the lines to look like, rather than what they actually do look like. But anyway, your input lag testing is interesting. I did some play testing with dread using my "1ms" 4k gaming lcd screen, and an A24 bvm. The timing prompt for countering an emmi is a great "how does it feel" test for input lag. Compared to my LCD tv from the late 2000s (even in "game mode") the 1ms gaming screen was much better. So much so that I escaped every emmi bump (something that is hit or miss when I play on the TV. ) However the bvm was something else, it had so little lag it felt like samus moved before I even touched the controller. I think this is because we have accustomed ourselves to input lag as unavoidable reality of digital processing. This was a reverse test of sorts. Usually we're trying to play analog content on a digital screen, but playing digital content on an analog screen really shows the input lag difference. And it wasn't even a pure test in that I had to convert the HDMI signal to SDI. Simple to do, but props to that little converter for getting it done so fast. I kinda wish we were still making new crts for this niche community, but I understand a lot of expertise and engineering went into making these high end crts, and it isn't practical to manufacture them anymore. I'm just dreading the day they're all worn out and dead.

@ShinyZeni

6 ай бұрын

Wow that’s a really great idea, thanks for sharing your experience! I’d love to play Dread on a CRT someday.

The input lag of the RT4K should depend on what mode you're using. One mode is locked to the input signal (Gen locked / Frame locked) and has a fixed low delay but can't instantly switch resolution. The other mode is buffered and handles resolution switching instantly (and weird refresh rates) but the input delay will change depending on if the output and input framerate are in or out of phase. So it will drift up from below 3 ms and 1 frame + 3 ms basically.

@NeonPizzas

Ай бұрын

This is what I'm confused about. I was told that the TINK4K itself will add 2ms of lag, it's internal Black frame insertion setting will also add another 8.3ms of lag, and wouldn't there also be lag coming from my OLED TV's game mode(10ms in my case) on top of that? That's a whopping 20-21ms of latency total....Hopefully that's not the case. Oh, and now you have to deal with latency from Gen locked or buffered mode, which will increase the lag even further...I was hoping for just 10ms total, not double or more.

@antivanti

Ай бұрын

@@NeonPizzas it should just add about 2 ms unless you need buffered mode. Not sure about BFI. And an LG has about 8 ms lag which is what a CRT would have in the middle of the screen (0 at top left and 16 at bottom right)

@NeonPizzas

Ай бұрын

@@antivanti According to RTNGS something like an LG C3 OLED has, 10ms of lag at 1080p + 60hz 5.7ms of lag, at 1080p + 120hz Would the TINK4K in tandem with the LG C3 OLED, using the tink4k's BFI, be recognized as 1080p 60hz or 1080p 120hz, because the latter has nearly half the latency. :P

@antivanti

Ай бұрын

@@NeonPizzas Since the source is 60 Hz I think you have to ignore the black in-between and the delay will be like 60 Hz. 60 Hz means 16.7 ms between frames and 8.3 ms average lag on a CRT

@NeonPizzas

Ай бұрын

@@antivanti Ah, i see. So 2ms from the TINK4K itself + GenLock, 8.3ms from tink4k's BFI and then another 8ms from my OLED TV's game mode? or is GenLock unpredictable and can go higher than 2ms? :P I just need to make sure, this is after all $1100 CAD. :P And then another $1400 for a smaller 42" OLED TV. OR, $300 of a crusty WEGA CRT with high hours, which means a lousier picture compared to how it looked out of the box back in 2005, and it's only going to get worse from here on out. :P

I'm not a speedrunner, but the RT4k is worth it to me for the BFI alone. My TV (LG C1) adds so much lag with BFI that games are unplayable. Now if only I could get one... Something no one talks about is how scalers are kinda the Great Equalizers of cheaper displays. My desktop monitors have completely randomly different response times at different resolutions, and only get the lowest possible response times when run at native resolution. High res scalers are completely necessary to bring games up to native resolution.

If your monitor has ~5ms response plus the ~3ms of the Tink, where is that extra 1+ frame coming from on the 240p test suite comparison? We’re talking like ~16.6ms that’s unaccounted for which is significant. I’m just confused by how the numbers translate to results. Anyone know what I’m missing?

@ShinyZeni

6 ай бұрын

I think it was related to my monitors settings to be honest. I think the low input lag on rtings is when the monitor is at 120hz, which it wasn’t for that particular test. An oversight on my part!

@gcolombelli

5 ай бұрын

​@@ShinyZeniif you're interested in measuring lag by yourself, there's a port of the Time Sleuth for the Tang Nano 4k, as well as MiSTer Laggy, a cheap hardware add-on for the MiSTer (if you already have one) that allows you to measure display lag. The 4k in the Tang Nano has nothing to do with resolution, it's just the number of logic elements in the FPGA it uses. It's a tiny, but very cheap FPGA board. For comparison, snestang core can run on the Tang Primer 20k and 25k, the Analogue Pocket has about 50kLE IIRC and MiSTer has 110kLE.

I think that about cinches it. I probably won't be buying a CRT, and will just put my money towards the rt4k and fancy expensive TVs. It wasn't like I really had the room in my apartment anyhow, though I would have made room. Since I'll be fine with a non-CRT, that means I won't be taking it away from an enthusiast who is dead set on one, and/or better situated to accommodate it. Still would be cool to see a follow-up after you've gotten hands on experience with an even more gamer friendly monitor.

Great analysis! The RT4K's ability to approximate the CRT experience is really something else. In a world where a good CRT is getting harder and harder to find, that's a very good thing.

2:10 Raccoon jump scare

your not accounting the scan lines on the CRT when the monitor is progressive (drawing the whole screen a frame).

One more issue: BFI introduces more lag. Retrotink has the lowest impact I’ve seen (8ms/half a frame which I’ve been told by Mike Chi is the fundamental limit) and is a full frame on LG OLED tvs. So with LCD panels you have to choose between morion clarity and response time, but with CRTs you don’t have to make that choice.

@ShinyZeni

6 ай бұрын

I did not know this! Will be interesting to see how the technology develops. Thanks for the insight!

The 8ms is just how long it takes to draw half a frame at 60hz. The crt itself adds virtually no lag. You won't beat the input lag of a crt with a modern display + retrotink, because the game runs at 60hz. You don't get the benefit of a higher refresh rate monitor.

@OGmolton1

6 ай бұрын

I was looking for someone to comment on this cause I couldnt tell if his PVM just had terrible input lag or what... the best way to do a test like that I think with tracking the lag would be side by side in the same video frame with both monitors sharing an SNES I think. If the LCD was as fast surely the simple NES lightgun system could work on an oled or something... opposed to the cathode ray timing lightguns... those will never work on a modern display I think. The NES ones should if the timing is right

I will say oleds have near instantaneous pixel response times and if you can get a model with black frame insertion it’s pretty damn close to a crt when it comes to motion

In case you are curious, pixel response time is what causes motion blur. Here are some numbers in full b2b (black white black) and not the sales pitch/scam “black to grey” you often see on monitors: CRT & Plasma: 0.002ms b2b OLED: 1.6ms b2b LCD: 18ms b2b In short, there is a long gap between the response time still, even though you hear the “near instantaneous response time of OLED” phrase parroted constantly, know that it isn’t true.

@ShinyZeni

6 ай бұрын

Good information, thank you for sharing!

@kozodoev

4 ай бұрын

Those numbers cannot possibly be correct. I think your numbers for CRT and OLED are swapped. It takes ~2 milliseconds for the phosphor in a CRT to stop luminescing after being hit by an electron. Additionally it also takes time to actually light up a random spot in a CRT as well since it's a sequential operation for all "pixels". OLED is much faster than that.

can you play it with a fox? can you play it under a box? can you play it at a tournament? can you play it next to a wall with a parapet?

No, nothing can replace a CRT. They simply have perfect motion.

@Trapgranny64

6 ай бұрын

Oleds with black frame insertion are pretty damn close

@saricubra2867

6 ай бұрын

@@Trapgranny64 No, they lose a lot of brightness and Plasma TVs are faster. Impulse-based displays are lightyears better than sample&hold.

@Trapgranny64

5 ай бұрын

@@saricubra2867 idk my lg Cx with hdr and black frame still looks pretty amazing

@saricubra2867

5 ай бұрын

@@Trapgranny64 I have the power of Sony Trinitron and composite signal.

@Trapgranny64

5 ай бұрын

@@saricubra2867 I have a Trinitron vga monitor 👀

A MiSTer FPGA sure can!

TVS AV ou HDMI ruim porblemo jogos coisas LED HDR UHD LCD SDR feios pior Composite FAIL Ruin só fraco difícil feios viu não gosto 👎 (cego on) TVS RGB PASS Off AV bem verdade rápido ganhar Jogos AV Luz limpar ótimo limpar RGB CRT até gosto bonitos muito Super Nintendo AV 240p👌CRT👌 limpar só Off ganhar 4.3 é 16.9 deixar 👌😘👍 $750 pior roubar Retro Tink 4k🤦‍♂️😡 R$3.500.00 🙎‍♂️🤦‍♂️😡 nada manaus AV2HDMI bem Ruin composite pior ON cego pablema R$45.00 até Manaus tem Retro Scaler 2x On limpar bem 😂 AV ou HDMI R$100.00 😂Scaler 2x😂

$750 for this is a joke.

@JordanLeigh

6 ай бұрын

If you’re poor, just say that.🥴 Video upscalers cost hundreds of dollars, there are plenty on the market that can’t do what this does. Cheap shit doesn’t work well. High quality used PVMs and BVMs are super hard to find without paying way more than that, and they’re only going to get harder to acquire as more years pass. There’s a reason these sold out so quickly.

@ShinyZeni

6 ай бұрын

The RT4K is a luxury upscaler. It has bells and whistles most people don’t need. If you don’t like the price, don’t buy it. Buy a 5x. Buy an OSSC Pro. Buy a regular OSSC, and experience the difficulty of dialing those products in to get the result you need. If you think the price is too much, you either don’t understand the hardware, and software development time that has gone into this thing, or you’ve bought into a false narrative. Not really any other way to say it.

@Faxtron

6 ай бұрын

@@ShinyZeni I think the Morph 4K is better price performance for me.

5:00 On my screen you are getting at best 0:01 of a difference, given the math behind pixel response and frames per second ect... Thats pretty damn good my guy. $750!!!! Not worth it AT ALL. Im sorry, now way in hell would that EVER be worth a single ms... Especially with Qd oled response times....

@JordanLeigh

6 ай бұрын

The RetroTink 4K has a benefit that OLED monitors and PVMs/BVMs don’t: we can put it in a backpack for flights to events like GDQ to use with whatever monitors and TVs they have available, without risking it getting lost by the airline or getting a shattered screen and losing the primary display used for speedrunning and streaming. Sure, we COULD buy a hard case with custom foam padding inserts and pay extra to check it, but this is infinitely less stressful than trying to travel across the country with an expensive display. We absolutely would have paid $750 to have it the first 3 times he attended GDQ.

CRTs are trash. That is all and just my opinion. I grew up playing games on them and no nostalgia or other factors will make me like them.

@cooparchive7857

6 ай бұрын

Just play real ps2 for 3 weeks in lcd or any modern tv and you will cry for some crt shader or crt tv !

@cooparchive7857

6 ай бұрын

The problem is that other 6th gen consoles look good at scaler but ps2 and 5th gen is absolutely not .

@GiantMushrooms

6 ай бұрын

@@cooparchive7857 I have played a PS2 on a LCD and other types of modern TVs and they are way better than CRTs. CRTs look like garbage when compared to modern TVs with a real PS2. As stated in the op, I grew up with playing games on CRTs. That includes the ps1, dreamcast, snes, ps2, n64, gamecube, wii, and atari 2600. Hell, I have tried other systems like nes, magnavox, commodore, and genesis on them as well. I still prefer them on modern TVs due to them looking far better. Nostaligia lenses blind people, some people like them for their aesthetics (I don't get it), while others use them for reasons like in the video for speedrunning, and all of that is their choice. My opinion / choice is that I think CRTs are trash and all games played on them look like trash even on real hardware, without exception.

I think if you can afford an $800 interface for your antique computer collection you can afford a gaming OLED monitor

@JordanLeigh

6 ай бұрын

We’d much rather bring a RetroTink 4K with us to GamesDoneQuick than an OLED monitor or a PVM/BVM.

3 minutes in it is annoying you haven't just given the answer. Are you purposely causing that annoyance to build tension and hold retention for watch time of your video?

@ShinyZeni

6 ай бұрын

The point of the video was to provide my perspective and the ins and outs of why I feel the way I do. Sorry you were annoyed by the pacing/format, you could just skip to the end though? 🤷‍♂️

@dvsaleios

6 ай бұрын

Attention span of a peanut

@user-ik8vy1rg8f

6 ай бұрын

In real life, if you asked someone a yes or no question like "Can the Retrotink 4K Replace the CRT for Super Metroid Speedruns?" and they don't give you an immediate yes or no and instead make you wait 13 minutes to get that one word answer... that's kinda rude.@@dvsaleios

@JordanLeigh

6 ай бұрын

@@user-ik8vy1rg8fit’s almost like whether it can or can’t replace the CRT for a speedrunner might have a complex answer 😮