Can the rank 1 player 1v5 Heralds?
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In this video from Jenkins stream, he watches Quinn (rank 1 in the world) play against 5 Heralds--1 versus 5.
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In a game where quinn literally can't do anything to defend against simultaneously pushing both sidelanes, the heralds came up with the brilliant plan of picking 4 heroes that don't hit towers and then having 3/5 of their team go mid and feed quinn a 7 minute bloodstone. It's very impressive that they brainstormed a strategy that's significantly worse than the default 2-1-2 setup
@Astral_Alchemist
3 ай бұрын
Their decision making couldn't have been much worse, but that's par for the course for heralds. If a single one of them had picked Viper, strong laning heroes or strong pushing heroes like brood, lone druid or lycan it would've been over
@Colopty
3 ай бұрын
@@Astral_Alchemist Quinn could probably lane just fine against a herald Viper, though it would at least have slowed him down a bit and the break would be nice.
@kelzangtobgyel3887
3 ай бұрын
might i add that playing shaman + lion would probably trivialise the game too 😂
@codrincx
3 ай бұрын
@@kelzangtobgyel3887 Quinn actually had 5 hero bans and both shaman and lion were on that list. So yeah, they would!
@midnight-fox7456
3 ай бұрын
They also could have ratted him like crazy. Bristle has no stuns, all they had to do was push all lanes at once, and wherever he TPS to defend, they immediately tp out. But they fed him to a point he could two shot them, and that was gg
Quinn: "my plan is bristleback" and right then and there i knew the heralds lost.
@paulbarclay4114
3 ай бұрын
all they had to do is pick slark hilarious
@mikesmith542
3 ай бұрын
@@paulbarclay4114 Slark? No. Viper for break is really all they needed.
@devshashOG
3 ай бұрын
@@mikesmith542sounds good doesn’t work, heralds just cant beat bb
@_HaSSaaN_
3 ай бұрын
@@paulbarclay4114 no they can't defeat him with just a hero pick, they need to be skilled that's what needed
@Sufferingzify
3 ай бұрын
5 DAgons is all that is needed.
Jenkins, if I give you all my money, will you 1 v 5 heralds irl?
@abramcadabros1755
3 ай бұрын
all 20 cents xD
@Jwpro99
3 ай бұрын
@@abramcadabros1755nah. This is a big brain play. Give him your debt and watch funny video
@Evoleo
3 ай бұрын
I feel like heralds are on average more athletic than a high MMR Dota player
@justsomeguywithoutamustang6436
3 ай бұрын
money's not enough, donate one of your kidneys and some of your blood to those in need, then work for community service 10 years straight and maybe, just maybe, Slacks will 1v5 you irl
@cokane8387
3 ай бұрын
@@Evoleo i think most heralds are paralysed playing with neuralink
"I'm going to pick Bristleback" is already the funniest this video could ever get regardless of what happens after.
@foldeminae
3 ай бұрын
The editor cutting the rest was pure comedy.
They are more herald than most heralds. Well deserved defeat.
@enijize1234
3 ай бұрын
They just had to try fight him the whole game rather than 5 man down a lane😂😂😂😂
@feenreich22
3 ай бұрын
If they 5 man down a lane Quinn just kill them all?@@enijize1234
@jofelmorata
3 ай бұрын
Ya love to see it! Kudos to the heralds for putting up a not good, but entertaining fight.
@benedictjajo
3 ай бұрын
Nah they just need to all pick single target spells heroes and quinn is done.@@enijize1234
@Andytlp
3 ай бұрын
4 women 1 man didnt help (unless some were voice changing rats, one sounded sus). Its rare for women to play dota and even rarer for them to be good at it. In all my years of dota i've only played with maybe 50 women who made themselves known via mic, and only a few actually carried my ass. Unsurprisingly she was raging more than the rest of us at our stupid moves, which was funny and kind of felt pride in someone else for the first time.
The moment he said "I'm gonna play Bristleback" I knew exactly how this was gonna go lmao
Now you should do a Rank 10 v 5 heralds, so on and forth, till a point where we find out at what rank equates to the power of 5 heralds
@_HaSSaaN_
3 ай бұрын
Rank 10 is still high I think just a regular immortal can still defeat heralds with a hero like BB
@raviatal6237
3 ай бұрын
Let's go other way and Rank 1 vs 5 Guardians
@rossclark704
3 ай бұрын
perfect
@taelandi
3 ай бұрын
I dont think another hero can do it other than BB tbh
@chuunibing
3 ай бұрын
jugg, naix,tinker
That tower at 3:46 is the real MVP. Only one to kill Quinn in the whole game
@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714
3 ай бұрын
The fauntain also killed him.
I love Jenkins' harem of Heralds that he can just summon for shit like this
Jenkins does the best and most unique dota content atm
@Ugly_Casanova
3 ай бұрын
check BlitzSpanks, not just reviewing but actual content
@hammloc
3 ай бұрын
@@Ugly_Casanova its trash
@rinserofwinds
3 ай бұрын
@@Ugly_Casanova for me jenkins is likeable, blitzspanks is not. very different content in my opinion.
@williamshakemilk2192
3 ай бұрын
@@Ugly_Casanova not gonna watch a dude complaining how dota isnt similar enough to league
@parham1023
3 ай бұрын
@williamshakemilk2192 he never does that. He is the best content creator in dota ATM. After him, imo is the story of dota and number 2 and bsj at number 3. Jenkins is like 5 or 6 at best.
Glad to see Quinn didn't go AFK
@jiminsbulge9448
3 ай бұрын
HAHAHAHA
@Schpit
3 ай бұрын
context? I live under a rock
@AnimeFalco
3 ай бұрын
@@Schpitquinn griefs in ranked games a lot
@ev3ningy695
3 ай бұрын
@@Schpit Sometimes he calls gg around 10min either because he lost the lane or his team lost their lanes
@parham1023
3 ай бұрын
@AnimeFalco not anymore. He has improved.
we about to see peak herald gameplay
And these are US heralds, so basically negative MMR. This is bullying
Contrary to popular belief, five people teleporting to someone with an early power spike doesn't nullify the power spike. 🤭
The real big brain strat would be for herald to put shadow shaman in the side lane, let him farm and then ifinite chain cc the bristle while they end the game
@ReiMiiz
3 ай бұрын
You know there are reasons they are herald lol
@stuart2941
3 ай бұрын
@@ReiMiiz Yeh I didn't even see a silver edge? One of the heroes rushes that and it shouldn't be too hard.
@ImStevenJohnson
3 ай бұрын
Quinn had 5 bans and Shaman was one of them (lion, bane, NP, and I forget the last one)
@nashiraz2698
3 ай бұрын
@@stuart2941u sure?? Quin just need sange for stat resist not tht hard to counter silver
@pauldickinson772
3 ай бұрын
@@stuart2941 Clinkz built a silver edge. It was barely relevant for one fight and then quinn bought a windwaker.
There are so many approaches they could have had to this: a line up of crazy split pushers, a hardcore anti-carry lineup with like doom viper and ursa to guaranteed kill anyone, or a mid trilane that could actually threaten a kill at lvl 1 for just approaching the wave. What they went with feels like something in the middle of those but doesn't manage to do any of them. Still, that's what makes heralds heralds I guess.
@SheaSyz
3 ай бұрын
They are herald, what do you expect with pick they pick what they want to play
@iamalucard100
3 ай бұрын
They picked primal who has built in break with ahgs. Even if you can’t manfight bb when broken it’ll at least discourage him from diving a bit. Unfortunately, primal never built ahgs
@LoLaSn
3 ай бұрын
Doom would've literally wrecked the BB pick with a single button for an easy win
@LoLaSn
3 ай бұрын
@@iamalucard100 Build aghs when? He had 8k net worth when the game was over lmao
@taelandi
3 ай бұрын
@@iamalucard100 he didnt bulid aghs lol also Underlord would be a lot better than primal because of firestorm and pit would be hard to deal with. Also his gate
I actually never knew who quinn was until today. Dude was so effective at playing every role simultaneously. Actually learned quite a bit on how to stay effective when down teamates.
@vsm351
3 ай бұрын
Are you for real? Quinn (CNC Machine) Cunningham is literally the best Dota 2 player in the world right now.
@naenae2350
3 ай бұрын
@@vsm351 shouldnt say the best but one of the best
@randomguy6822
3 ай бұрын
@@vsm351 You do realise that there are people who just play the game without following E-Sports etc., right?
More of this please. Good shit
heralds allergic to hitting creeps who knew
you have no idea how much i enjoy watching this video please more of that
Great turnaround time on the edit - Bravo! Was fun watching live!
@CrashNSplash
3 ай бұрын
I'm letting your boss know you were watching during work
This was fantastic! The editing was great too, didn't feel like anything was cut off, and felt like we caught everything.
@Zer0Blizzard
3 ай бұрын
Quinn banned shadow shaman, there are at least 6 comments asking why the heralds didn't pick shaman
This is great content. Keep this up jenkins.
I loved to see "Comms reveal" at end, that was nice :D
I'm so mad I missed this live! Jenkins, you're awesome.
I haven’t even finished watching but the second I heard the herald say “we’re going to tri one mid” i know there is not a chance in hell they don’t lose by minute 6. Especially against a bristle that’s sounds absolutely suicidal.
@Delimon007
3 ай бұрын
The fact that they didn't change their strategy immediately upon seeing the bristle is just pure herald 😂
Glad to see Quinn read my comment on your poll, lol. I was so happy to see he picked Bristle.
Interesting content as always Jenkins!
Atleast the heralds sound like they're having fun😂
That BSJ roast sent me into a frenzy of laughter LOL "Like a serial killer running around having his way with his victims... really horrible.. very BSJ type stuff here..... But BSJ would be losing"
You just answered the dota questions that keep me awake at night, have my sub
I've always wanted to see this exact thing, your best video dude.
It’s a little crazy how bad these people are
@gamingchair6066
3 ай бұрын
true, they were bad even for herald standard and i''ve have friends who are in that bracket
@randomguy6822
3 ай бұрын
@@gamingchair6066 They're often at least decent at playing their own heroes, but not these guys. Unless of course they didn't play their usual heroes for some reason, but that'd just be weird.
@gamingchair6066
3 ай бұрын
@@randomguy6822 exactly my point, its like they hand picked em xd
Easy bots are better than this tho
Golden age of Dota 2 content, first the Ceb hot take tier list, now this - what a time to be alive.
Interesting to watch, that did not turn out the way I thought. Good on Quinn for playing!
Comments full of people explaining how the Heralds could have easily won. All of them forgetting a very key detail in all of this; they are Heralds.
This was less DotA2 and more DbD with an extra survivor but less toxic.
This is gold thank you Jenkins
Fun stuff. Back in DotA Allstars, you could disable one line and play 2v2. Undefeated combo was venge drow both rushing 4 wbs + helm of dominator.
@williamshakemilk2192
3 ай бұрын
what do you mean disable one line? just delete a lane from the map or...?
@jdmakesmusic
3 ай бұрын
The disabled lane will not spawn creeps. But you can still attack the tower if you can go past the backdoor protection if I remember it correctly.
Somehow I feel like Quinn + 4 heralds team will be worse than solo Quinn
funniest shit ever
Quinn "divulging his strategy" is the best part of this video lmao
What an entertaining performance! Thx Jenkins and Quinn!
i would love to see a video with the comms of herrald
@chazdomingo475
3 ай бұрын
"OMGGGGggg what is happeninggggg?"
Jenkers looking healthy. Keep at it man
This is excellent! Well done bro!
this is the content that i need in You tube .
That was incredibly satisfying.
I was 0% surprised by this result
@_HaSSaaN_
3 ай бұрын
Yes
@Six_slotted
3 ай бұрын
how? we saw 5 heralds smash 3 like 7-8k players in an earlier one of this series sure quinn is much stronger than 8k but 3 8k players would beat quinn every time
@oyuyuy
3 ай бұрын
@@Six_slotted I don't believe that for a second, you must've dreamt it. What is the video called? And yeah, obviously Quinn wouldn't have any chance against 3 half decent players (and 8k is miles above 'decent') but that's completely irrelevant. He isn't that much better than 8k players in the first place.
ngl this was amazing like when we had that 10v10 dota back in the days of TI fun stage
dude this is the ost intertaining content I have seen since ti
Main protagonist party vs the final boss ahh game
The herald strategy is wrong from the beginning.Tri lane does not get u advantage,it’s a throw or it would’ve been the norm in pubs. So what they should’ve done is just to put a viper mid passively clearing the wave meanwhile put 2 siege heroes such as lycan,visage,np,brood at each other lane.There’s no way against such pushing 1v5 no matter how good a player is
@Delimon007
3 ай бұрын
Actually in a real 1 v 3, tri lane makes that lane completely unplayable if they are using lock down heroes that will zone you from the lane. These are just heralds and they picked zero lock down power for their tri lane 😂
@leexingha
3 ай бұрын
@@Delimon007 its just like an offlane scenario wherein u nid to use good surviving hero against multiple heroes
@ABRUPTTROLLING
3 ай бұрын
@@Delimon007 if ur opponents play tri lane against u in pub,just put a kotl 4 in that lane and pick a jungle farm hero. That’s exactly why tri lane only exists at the very early dota1 meta. And tri lane was actually the norm in pubs until ppl figured 2,1,2 is better and more consistent
@icata12345
3 ай бұрын
yea no shit,
@user-wi8fr9ee7u
2 ай бұрын
Jenkins didn't mention but Quinn made some rules before playing. No hex heroes, split pushers etc and he's only gonna play bristle
I love the fucking typos. I'm all in on that type of shit lmao
This is pure good content lol. pls keep it up!
Quinn knew how to krump them. I don't see any better option than Bristle for this. Legion commander could get broken eventually, but not from the beginning.
@backstabba
3 ай бұрын
@@Mike-wu7ie You know what a herald is?
Apparently, Quinn banned Rhasta, Lion, Bane, Monkey King and Furion
@nabidisla.5086
3 ай бұрын
if they just picked an Antimage like bruh or Bought Multiple Diffusial Blades....
@trussik
3 ай бұрын
@@nabidisla.5086 yeah cause deleting 135 mana from him before getting 2 shot will change anything, whats ur rank?
@natersumkatanuar7631
Ай бұрын
@@trussikactually, AM is not a bad pick here. AM is very good at split pushing, his mana burn can slow BB to a halt, and his blink will force BB to buy Orchid, not to mention BB at early game before having Bloodstone will be constantly having low mana meaning more damage for mana void. AM can also get Abyssal to lock down BB. And a free farming AM is a very fast ticking time bomb. Try to face yourself in the mirror before you mock others.
and now i have to meet smurfs almost everygame thanks to you jenkins
The absolute confidence in how he said "Bristleback" I knew it was fuckin over hahaha
quinn showing his skill by pressing 2 buttons amazing as usual
@feenreich22
3 ай бұрын
There are items as well.
@adityagautam7840
3 ай бұрын
Why don't you do it yourself and become the number 1 player? It's easy anyways right?
@averkinswing7891
3 ай бұрын
@@adityagautam7840ikr? he be hatin fr😂
@adityagautam7840
3 ай бұрын
@@averkinswing7891 just a noob who thinks he is the best
@makovecek00
3 ай бұрын
@@adityagautam7840 nice description of quinn well done sir
That snapfire set look awesome never know that exist.
@ahmadburhanhabibi
3 ай бұрын
I thought it was ogre magi until they cast the spells
@glibkovalenko9937
3 ай бұрын
@@ahmadburhanhabibisame here
@ventu7907
3 ай бұрын
@@ahmadburhanhabibisame
Dude the herald comm about the trilane got me wheezing uncontrollably xd
Great content!
Do guardian next
pick nature's prophet or a brood mother, dumb to not just split push. it wouldn't be a pretty win but that's the only advantage. was also dumb for clinkz and primal to come mid and not just camp the side lanes for as long as possible.
@DrZaius3141
3 ай бұрын
Quinn banned NP. (among others)
@ghoulishshadow
3 ай бұрын
@@DrZaius3141 surely there were better split pushers than a singular clinkz tho
I loved every second of it! :-D
The 3 mid was a good idea. They just needed to not actually fight him and just try to prevent him from getting CS. The Heralds should have picked Doom Lich and Disruptor for the mid. They should have picked Clinkz and Nature's Prophet for the side lanes to maximize their pushing and rating potential. If they just pushed everywhere and refused to fight him they could have won.
ah yes what a fun and fair hero
Next time, please make it a 1v9 game. 1v5 is too easy for #1 player. He has to have 4 toxic team mates, where each of them is trying to feed the opponent. This game wasn't realistic at all. He had wards available. Camps were free to farm. Dusts and gems were available too. In a real game, a toxic player feeds himself, gives away wards, gems, and rapiers, and tells the opponent team where his team mates farm. The herald team lacked gold because of not having enough enemy heroes to kill.
@williamshakemilk2192
3 ай бұрын
this should be top tomment
Great content thank you
Quinn perfectly knows the distance of Quill Spray. It's like he can see the circle in his head.
@williamshakemilk2192
3 ай бұрын
your probably see dragons in your head
as a herald, these heralds are absolute garbage.
Honestly props to the heralds, they werent doing that bad. For being the lowest rank they still knew to split push, buy silveredge and vessel to counter, going trilane mid so other 2 can farm freely. Some of these things not even divines do because of ego blinding them.
@theswordsman7114
3 ай бұрын
Are you insane ? They were playing worse than bots
@TheMartuxz
3 ай бұрын
@@theswordsman7114 they were DEFINATELLY playing better than insane bots, Ik that because I can pick void, go 6 moonshards and still win. Bots don't know how to split push, which, imo is the biggest counter to 1v5.
@badrinath5306
3 ай бұрын
@@TheMartuxzdepends on the bots. Basic bots these days start running into the fountain if u pick me and turn into a bounty rune. Not literally but yeah that is not exactly a dignified comparison anymore. There r modded bots but with stuff like new player mode and far better tutorials I don't think we will be seeing better bots soon.
@loveluclins
3 ай бұрын
I mean, the trilane mid did more bad than good. Fed quinn a triple kill. Twice.
@ivanzorja8083
3 ай бұрын
@@loveluclins obviously because they are heralds but atleast they had 2 heroes same level as him at that point
'They're your idols' haha that was quick and pretty funny
nice content bro
BANNING Bristleback LITERALLY gets me from Herald to Divine
The strat should have been 1 top 1 bottom, 1 jungle and 2 that can clear wave mid. Super greedy and overwhlem with networth and splitpush. Jungle isn't good in 5v5 but in a game like this, nature prophet can push any lane and BB can't catch every push. Also always have a TP scroll This is who we use to win Low prio games way back when people use to 5 man mid
@penyu1913
3 ай бұрын
i didnt watch the stream but i assume what hero quinn is about to use isnt revealed yet. if quinn pick like a medusa he could possibly outpush and outfarm the herald
@dm9910
3 ай бұрын
You absolutely do not want to put multiple heroes mid. You're only feeding quinn and taking pressure off the sidelanes. If I was coaching the heralds I would tell them to pick Kotl mid whose job for the entire game is to mirror quinn and spam Q on the wave from a mile away, two zoo heroes whose job is to occupy the 2 lanes quinn isn't in and push hard, and two CC heroes like Bane and Shadow Shaman whose job is to support the push strat in the early game, and then once getting sufficient levels in their skills they follow quinn around and keep him chain stunned to waste his time and prevent him from tping to defend his rax
@Landryjongte
3 ай бұрын
@@dm9910 The 2 heroes mid wouldn't lane in the traditional sense. Only spamming long range wave clear in case Quinn push early. Kotl like you said and maybe a lina. The other heroes also need to be good at hitting towers. In this game, pretty much only Clinks could hit towers. Also, their lack of tp in the beginning when Quinn still couldn't 2 shot them was a mistake. Late game, he did so much damage it didn't matter, but in the beginning there's no way he kills you during tp channel
@Delimon007
3 ай бұрын
Said the same thing. Mid doesn't need to farm though, just perma CC and zone/deny. The other 3 should take care of the farming and ratting.
@Delimon007
3 ай бұрын
@@dm9910 You absolutely DO want 2 heroes mid so the others get the same XP and farm as him.
i like how there was obviously theory crafting on both sides. quinn with the bb pick and travels + move speed items for chasing getting around fast, heralds for their tri lane idea the utterly failed. so funny
If any hero could pull this off it's Bristleback. Would love to see this again with other heroes.
My dude picked 5 brain dead people from some hospital and called them haralds that be some KZreadr moment right there
Imagine not buying Ghost Scepter to nullify everything Bristleback can do to you
@nabidisla.5086
3 ай бұрын
Or multiple Diffu Blades
@Delimon007
3 ай бұрын
@@nabidisla.5086 ^^^^^^^ Typically, you have to build around the other heroes on the map. There's only one. . . just meteor hammer split push, have 2 people with strong CC so they can't do jack, and some mana burners so they still can't do jack and you win. You don't NEED to know who they are playing with this strat either. It's 1 v 5 FFs.
That was a faster W than most turbos...
As soon as I saw the title, I knew it would be solo bb. It’s the one of the few if not the only hero that can do this consistently.
@Zer0Blizzard
3 ай бұрын
Yup, Phantom Assassin, Antimage, Silencer, Phantom Lancer, Centaur, Huskar, Slark, Razer and Luna can all do this, with varying item reqs. Morph+Meepo+Naga can do it with more skill. Lone Druid, Prophet and Lycan can also do some of that.
2:30 "oh my goddduh what is happeninggguh" zesty mf
@richardmyers6372
3 ай бұрын
Zoomer speak
jenkins looks so breedable
@eduardopupucon
3 ай бұрын
why you guys so thirsty for the jenkussy
Even when losing mid as 3v1, heralds still don't want to abandon mid. That is peak herald.
This gives me PTSD over a game 12 years ago where 4 enemy players disconnected minute 1 and we still lost lol (with me helplessly playing AM attempting to get some farm while my team chainfeeds 1 by 1)
women 💀
heralds women is worst than heralds, ez quinn win
@Rasea611
3 ай бұрын
Don't be misogynistic.
That 'close' at the end lol
I wonder how hyped the #1 dude in the world was to join this venture😅
Good job with ending boulder classic
It seems Bristle would be a pretty poor choice but then you forget how poor Herald decision making is, feeding Bristle making him faceroll everything. I'd have guessed Quinn would pick a proper carry and assassinate ppl then be able to easily go 1v5. Quinn put all-in on Heralds making extremely poor decisions by picking Bristle and it paid really well. Dying to Bristle passive for no reason is a classic herald move, especially team cooperation to wipe together.
@TheGhostFart
3 ай бұрын
no reason to overthink when bristle is the bane of heralds
Yay! The content
This pack of heralds missed the 2 great ones: CreamPuffStrenght and Jimins Bulge. If these two were on the team, the heralds would had a easy victory.
@CreamPuffStrength
3 ай бұрын
What I've been tryna say
You should do this with every rank 1v5 against Crusaders, Archons, Legends, Ancients
3v1 mid against a bristleback is potentially the single most herald idea I've seen and I'm two minutes in.
Had i not seen newsham lose, i would have been very sure that quinn would have won. i was only fairly sure
Why they went 3 people mid is beyond me. Just put a Shaman mid who can perma stun him with E and stop him from farming and someone else who can farm with impunity due to that. The other 3 people one top one bot to free farm and one jungle for more free farm since he can probably take their jungle too. 3 free farmers = gg but hey it's heralds. . . Edit: By that last statement, I meant that they can't farm for jack so I dunno if that would have even worked 😂