“Politicians shouldn’t be selecting their voters, the voters should be selecting their politicians “ Thank you Joyce Vance

@janislentz9861

7 күн бұрын

Yes, that’s the insidious result of gerrymandering!

@HoneyBadger80886

6 күн бұрын

22 States routinely engage in Election fraud. What Tricks is Your State Using this Election?

@SciDOCMBC

6 күн бұрын

But this also requires that voters allow to be selected by certain politicians. If you have forgotten how to use your common sense and fall for the simplest and most transparent lies, this is not surprising.

@SandraHale-ji7ig

5 күн бұрын

The answer of the question is NO.

@SciDOCMBC

5 күн бұрын

@@SandraHale-ji7ig You are right, of course, but that was no question. It was a statement.

We should be more than a little troubled by the actions of SCOTUS! Their delay for Trump is outrageous !!

@tinasimkins8006

7 күн бұрын

And Judge Cannon is also a problem. She makes every concession to trump. I think she is hoping he will win in November and get rid of the case after he takes office so she is relieved of her duty. It's either that scenario or he is paying her off to slow walk the case. It's despicable.

@thesoundsmith

7 күн бұрын

You DO realize that they DEMAND that Trump win. THIS IS THE AUTHORITARIAN MOMENT they have worked for since Reagan destroyed worker's rights.

@LynneTribble

7 күн бұрын

It’s obvious he’s got friends in high places Supreme Court and judges

@christal2641

7 күн бұрын

The finest Justice money (and threats) can buy!😂

@rebeccahmclaughlin2523

7 күн бұрын

I believe they are slow walking the immunity case u til after the election. In case tRump gets in again, and they'll render an opinion on immunity. If Biden is reelected then they'll just make like it's nothing and status quo on immunity

Mark Elias is a NATIONAL HERO!

@ksailor71

8 күн бұрын

100 💯 percent

My grandmother, who was a poll worker, always told me, "If you dont vote, you don't get to complain."

@mariabarajas1047

7 күн бұрын

🗽

@pokey5736

7 күн бұрын

That's what my father used to say. He was from the Greatest Generation where people were very patriotic and loved the USA. Also, people were able to debate politics and still be able to be friends, family and acquaintances.

@aliceinwonderland887

6 күн бұрын

That's right. A lot of people complain about everything and then you explain to them how you make change and it goes in one ear and out the other.

@daveboryszewski130

6 күн бұрын

FACTS!!

@Lynn-hl9qz

5 күн бұрын

Voting is for the Electoral College. Get rid of the Electoral College, they can be bought. Let OUR vote count!

If we had a decent judge the Fl case would be done and over and Trump would be in jail .

My 60th birthday is on November 5 this year. I have one wish and one wish only. Please everybody give me lots of healing energy and hope that Biden will win by huge margins. That is my wish for my 60th birthday this year.

@smdpc

7 күн бұрын

Done. I'm taking Biden wins by10M+ and wins electoral college to the bank. Keep the Faith. 🌊🌊

@pokey5736

7 күн бұрын

I wish you an early birthday present.

@HoneyBadger80886

6 күн бұрын

I wish you health.❤

@varab6287

6 күн бұрын

I wish you health too

@dolliscrawford280

5 күн бұрын

He is still tied down without the House and Senate.

She said it right: The JURY did it's job. NOT the judge.

@rochcarothers-ts3jx

8 күн бұрын

Yes,this is not traffic court:)

@MrChannel19

8 күн бұрын

The judge was there fairly and guided the jury that were both under threats outside of the courtroom and in the Congressional house! All to protect the defendant of an overwhelming proof of guilt! Conviction is done! Jail time would be a good solution, we’ll see!

@rochcarothers-ts3jx

8 күн бұрын

@@MrChannel19 💯💯💯

@annkat100

7 күн бұрын

It’s personally appalling to me, that people who are in clear & dangerous opposition to your policies & efforts, take their limited days on earth, to troll either of you/colleagues. If they’ve more cogent citations, sans personal opinions; perhaps I’d be less critical… Unsure. Please, neither of you ever feel alone, or unique in the pushback/poorly constructed rhetoric! Unfortunately, I reside on the last few upper N streets, 12 miles from downtown Denver, yet IN CO D-4. Prior, I resided in CO D-3 (both for a decade+), & I find myself always & forever searching for ways to improve my District’s political positions/policies/voter turnout. History will mark the important work you both/colleagues: undertake. Steady onward-always. 🫶🏽💪🏽🗳️‼️‼️

@melanies.6030

7 күн бұрын

Judge Merchan did an excellent job during the trial according to all the legal eagles that were there (Harry Litman, George Conway, Andrew Weissmann, Norman Eisen, etc.)

Impeach Judge Cannon!

@shellimendoza7332

7 күн бұрын

💯 now!!!!!!

@mariabarajas1047

7 күн бұрын

Exactly .. and not only impeach investigate her also😮

@juanitaross5492

7 күн бұрын

Cannon has one trike against her from the 11th circuit. She only needs two more, and she will be removed.

@deniceeverham9467

7 күн бұрын

At the very least she should recused. We should be in the streets a March on Washington.

@jannichi6431

7 күн бұрын

Twice the 11th reprimanded.

I always enjoy her. Thanks to her for appearing, and to you for having her. VOTE BLUE. 🔥⚖️🌊🇺🇲

@democracylives8448

8 күн бұрын

Very well outlined!

@georgesheffield1580

8 күн бұрын

I assume you mean Joyce Vance ,not Judge Cannon

@PonderousProse

8 күн бұрын

​@@georgesheffield1580 Cannon was not the guest.

@edrenajones5960

8 күн бұрын

She has explained so much on the news, non-partisanally(?).

@danielsteel3838

7 күн бұрын

Our Nation is still at-risk... Please vote blue... We don' t want a Donald DICTATOR .. He's made it QUITE CLEAR HE QANTVRO BEVTHE ORANGE PUTIN.... VOTE BLUE ... FOR YOU AND YOUR CHILDRENS FUTURE.. ... TRUMP CANT BE TRUSTED! I HAVE FAMILY THAT ARE BUYING T H E BULL HOCKEY .... ,please vote BLUE no matter who!!! 💙

Uncle Joey should get 10 to 12 million more votes than he got in 2020. Trump should get 20% less than he got in 2020.

@Jerry-up8bk

7 күн бұрын

Bidens a shoe in ,I don't buy polls saying trumps ahead since Hush Money trial!

@janislentz9861

7 күн бұрын

I have predicted approx. 90M votes for Biden in November

@scottwillman828

7 күн бұрын

My prediction is that t-Rump's Base has lost 15% to 20% due to death and defection.

@wgooetrik

7 күн бұрын

​@@scottwillman828a lot of his supporters died even after the vaccine.

@davidsebastianelli1326

7 күн бұрын

@@janislentz9861 I have a running bet with a Frump supporter, who is still somewhat of a friend, from 2019 that Dark Brandon will win by a rough total of at least 12 million additional votes. That was before the insurection and just after Roe vs Wade was shot down despite over 50 years of precedence, so now I am thinking it will be closer to 15 million. Now if we can just stop women from voting lockstep with their husbands despite their own differing positions on policies like womens rights and sensible gun laws. More women love their babies than many fathers do.

Sorry Joyce. LOCK HIM UP. The delay is disturbing. The allowances Trump has been given are disgusting.

@christal2641

7 күн бұрын

Heck, lock him up for violating the gag orders!

@WilliamMacKenzie-dq6bf

6 күн бұрын

​@@christal2641 Von Shitzenpants has already been fined for the violations of the gag order.... Merchan could've jailed him for 30 days for each instance... $10,000 in fines instead... Merchan told him once more,it's jail!

@Lucy4550

6 күн бұрын

We all know that that’s not going to happen

@SandraHale-ji7ig

5 күн бұрын

In due respect to you, Donald Trump has been been treated with the utmost treatment than a common criminal is treated. And he rewards the justice system with lies and unhinged rhetoric. If the common criminal crossed that line with one toe they would be in jail forever.

@flipperscott9954

3 күн бұрын

Dump Trump!!!!

Cannon is not qualified to try the Mar a Lago case. period.

@georgesheffield1580

8 күн бұрын

She seems to be getting help and direction from some entity out side of the court system

@s.z.6200

8 күн бұрын

Cannon needs to be charged with obstruction of justice.

@VictorG930

8 күн бұрын

What is more disgusting is her attitude towards the prosecutors, arrogant and incompetent, and so brazen in her handling of the case. She’s blatantly throwing her presence around as if she’s more qualified, than everyone . And like it or not she will not give up the case ,she stands to lose more now, she can be removed by Congress and then she won’t even get a pension.

@VictorG930

8 күн бұрын

@@georgesheffield1580that’s more than an assumption , all her filing of paperless notes are from someone who has given her the idea knowing she can be removed by the 11th circuit court.

@VictorG930

8 күн бұрын

Very interesting discussion with you Marc and Joyce , hope it will be regular discussion.

We End Citizens United. Amend the speech and debate clause. We need our public servants under oath while representing us. Period. No more bribe funded lies.

@kaceykelly7222

8 күн бұрын

You are right! Citizens United MUST be the first thing we overturn, then Electoral College, Gerrymandering and Filabusters.

@smilingfox8978

7 күн бұрын

Money out of politics.

@christal2641

7 күн бұрын

PUBLIC CAMPAIGN FINANCING!

Joyce is THE BEST and I hope my niece who just transferred to Alabama gets her for her law courses.

@Cerceify

8 күн бұрын

Good luck.

@christal2641

7 күн бұрын

When Joyce is teaching, the average IQ in AL rises by 1 standard deviation.

Thanks Democracy Docket and Marc Elias for Defending Democracy, The Constitution, and America 🗽 🇺🇲 🌠 💙 ⭐ 🌟 ✨

@michaelrowsell1160

8 күн бұрын

You claim to be a democracy .You are not .No other true democracy has political apportionments to the judiciary .What could possibly go wrong .

Joyce and Mark are BOTH AMERICAN HEROES 🎉

❤love to watch and listen to Mrs Vance. She should be a Supreme Justice Judge.

@janislentz9861

7 күн бұрын

Barbara as well!

@johanna5640

7 күн бұрын

Joyce Vance would make an excellent SCOTUS Wish I could have had her as my professor when I took my law classes. 🇺🇲 VOTE Blue on November 5 2024

Alabama resident for 30+ years. I love Joyce. I’m a Democrat so I am not represented. It blows my mind that my representatives openly say they will not make any decisions that “represent” my best interests.

@vbachman6742

8 күн бұрын

Same in Tennessee.

@bgs03548

8 күн бұрын

I’m in N. Alabama and the day I heard the RNC was putting Donald Trump on the ticket I immediately cancelled my voters registration and registered later to vote Democratic. I don’t intend to ever vote republican again because it’s only gotten worse. I’m not thrilled with Biden but he’s been there fifty years and never tried to become a dictator. I’m not pleased that he’s a Zionist but so is the ‘other’ candidate. I don’t think the fact we’ve got two guys the age of these two candidates is an accident either when there are younger ppl who would be far more viable as the nations leader. Jill Stein is awesome and Gov. Andrew Cuomo would be much better leader than either Biden or Trump. If Trump had been arrested on Jan 6 for the traitor he is, like the others he incited were arrested. We likely wouldn’t have had to see or hear from him again. And certainly wouldn’t have to sweat over him being in office again as a traitor/felon/dictator who committed a COUP d’ Ata. Which Jan 6 was because weapons and death occurred it wasn’t just an insurrection. I’m not happy with the justice system right now dragging their feet and these corrupt judges both Aileen Canon and the SCOTUS. Something smells fishy and I know who it is. Y’all do know if he gets back in office, American Democracy is over for good! And that is very sad for the young ppl.

@suzanne9150

8 күн бұрын

I too am a Democrat living in Alabama. I hate the politics, representatives, senators and governor. Only decent senator to ever serve Alabama was Doug Jones.

@annkat100

7 күн бұрын

Same in Colorado’s D-4!! I reside 12 miles S of downtown Denver. I was literally asked to step out of our District’s DEM working group-merely b/c, after being asked to provide input, I pointed out that the official DEM platform read exactly as a 2015 GOP platform, plus refused to address Women & Families Reproductive Access to Healthcare (my educational & career focus). I noted the topic is “prickly,” yet when 1:3 women suffer miscarriages, ectopic pregnancies, not fully expelled miscarriages, + 1:4 college-aged students experience at least one “acquaintance SA” episode, etc etc… We ALL know family/friends/colleagues who hv suffered, myself included, & that ignoring the national issues felt unwise-I was TOLD that CO protects these rights, so WHY bother to bring up… 🙆🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♀️ Some days I just ‘can’t,’ but a day or two later; back in the fight! Steady on my friends! 🇺🇸❤️🗳️‼️‼️‼️

@aliceinwonderland887

6 күн бұрын

They have too much of that redneck power. It's that goat blood in em. We should be checking them for horns.

Whether you are a Republican or a Democrat you need to vote blue in 2024 to preserve democracy.

@nates9105

8 күн бұрын

No. If you are a responsible and duty bound US Citizen you should vote for Democracy with Democrats instead of a fascist party who wants to demolish everything

@LynnLight

8 күн бұрын

That’s right: MAGA - Make America Germany Again (in 1938) It’s true VOTE Blue 💙💙💙

@michaelrowsell1160

8 күн бұрын

You claim to be a democracy .You are not .No other true democracy has political apportionments to the judiciary .What could possibly go wrong .

@user-dz1gv3ng4i

8 күн бұрын

​@@michaelrowsell1160 It's a democracy if "we the people " want I to be. It may be still a work in progress, but we have the determination to keep up improving as we go. Who are you to say " You say you're a democracy but you're not" Obviously not American though or you wouldn't be telling us what we are or not.

@aletheia161

8 күн бұрын

@@michaelrowsell1160 couldn't agree more.

No, it is not handling Trump nor is it handling any other wealthy defendant.

@willeel3750

3 күн бұрын

There are a lot of people languishing in prisons because they couldn't make bail or pay a paltry fine for a non-violent crime while rich guys delay and use high priced lawyers to game the system. No it is not handling Trump. It is a joke.

Thanks Marc for having Joyce on!!! 💙💙💙

The Supreme Court Judges are helping to delay Trump trails

@democracylives8448

8 күн бұрын

100% correct! Considering the speed with which they punched through Bush v Gore shows they certainly can move swiftly, when there is a sense of urgency attached.

@donclayton5820

8 күн бұрын

Need fro the democrats to take over the house and get 60+ in the senate to impeach them trump suckling republicans

@randibgood

8 күн бұрын

​@@democracylives8448 Just like they did with the Colorado ballot issue.

@Detrumpificator4377

8 күн бұрын

"trials"

@hw-rg7gn

8 күн бұрын

Vance defending Garland's slow-walking of the prosecution is absurd, as is her ridiculous attempt to explain the clear bias and partisanship of Cannon, as is her careful deference to an uncontrollable SCOTUS. We're 8 years into massive criminality by Trump, 4 years onto a coup attempt, open hostility to the rule of law by an entire party, and foolish pundits like Vance and Bauer are blathering about how justice is simply a slow process. As though we we can't see the institutions burning down.

Judge Cannon's obstruction of timely and objective progression of Trump's Florida trial doesn't only deny the public's right to informed voting, but also U.S. allies' need to know if we can be trusted with confidential intelligence information we need them to share with us going forward (thus Cannon is herself endangering our National Security by leaving this unresolved!).

@siouxrose7766

8 күн бұрын

For all the media attention on Fani Willis' personal life, or Hunter Biden's past drug problems... VERY little mention is made of this. And as Ben Meisalas points out, from CNN to the New York Times, a lot of effort is made to make Trump seem like a perfectly legitimate candidate. I could not feel more disgusted with this circus of lies, games, and FAR more attention to the letter-of-the-law than the Spirit in which it was written along what it ultimately was written for!

@annakingry9157

8 күн бұрын

Plus it's a spit in the face to the people who gather intelligence, sometimes at the threat of their own lives. Cannon, Trump, and their supporters are miserable traitors to this country.

@pokey5736

7 күн бұрын

She is obstructing justice.

@joeb4142

7 күн бұрын

I’m sure the international intelligence committee has been freaking out about this for years. Someone will write about this in a book 10 years from now but until then we can only speculate.

@siouxrose7766

6 күн бұрын

@@joeb4142 --The U.S sent the CIA in to take out dangerous leaders in other lands. If Trump gets in and his ignorance, arrogance, and revenge tour pose dangers for other lands, maybe they can deploy their own clandestine operations to take care of the threat.

Joyce Vance and Marc Elias are needed as Supreme Court Justices.

@user-xe7cf5po3n

6 күн бұрын

Yes!!

The Justice System depends on people in the System being responsible and honest. That is where the problem lies.

@OriginalThinker_

8 күн бұрын

Test

@MrChannel19

8 күн бұрын

Yes, but there is no rule to remind adjudicators to leave politics behind just a few rules that are general enough to open abuse without accountability!

@phil20_20

8 күн бұрын

Society is crumbling.

@michaelrowsell1160

8 күн бұрын

You claim to be a democracy .You are not .No other true democracy has political apportionments to the judiciary .What could possibly go wrong .

@pokey5736

7 күн бұрын

BINGO !!! Some have forgotten the oath they took.

When are we going to stop with this electoral college nonsense and start deciding elections on popular vote? I think the majority of the country would agree to vote for that.

@deniceeverham9467

7 күн бұрын

It needs an amendment could take 40 years. Buy that time our democracy could be dead .

@daisybloodflower2002

7 күн бұрын

I wish, if any Republicans would ever win again by maybe two states. That is why they will never get rid of electoral votes.

@Jmamelia

7 күн бұрын

There is an effort underway nationally. Look up the national popular vote interstate compact. In a nutshell, it's getting state legislators to agree to go with the popular vote and not the electoral college. They're looking for enough states to Total 270 electoral college votes. So far enough states have joined to put them at 205. Call your state representatives and tell them you want them to sign on to the compact if they haven't already.

@joeblow5087

7 күн бұрын

The majority are under the tyranny of the minority with the Electoral College. Elect Presidents by popular vote. Abolish the Electoral of.

@cookiemonstakjs

7 күн бұрын

Absolutely right, like a lot of things in the USA, the Electoral College is way out of date and should go. But think about it, the Republicans would actually have to come up with policy ideas that appeal to voters, not just have their only platform as re-elect the Orange Monstet

I’m fromAlabama and I love Joyce Vance. She is the one of only a few that make me not cringe.

Two American heroes, Marc and Joyce are amazing!

Thank you for interviewing this amazing woman.

I’ve always been a fan Ms. Vance. Watched you on MSNBC whenever possible. You can always tell an expert, comfortable in their knowledge base, when they can clearly explain the details in twenty minutes or sum it up in two, and the audience still walks away with more insight about the topic under discussion. Thank you both, and I will temper my disdain for what I see happening in our judiciary. (at least for now) Good call having her on, Marc. 💙😊💙😊

The wheels of justice sure do grind slowly.

@siouxrose7766

8 күн бұрын

Slow enough to potentially unleash the Kracken-criminal so that he could potentially obtain the Oval Office and make all these cases--along with the ostensible proof of his crimes--magically disappear. This is such an inversion of justice as to make the Founders turn over in their graves.

@VictorG930

8 күн бұрын

PURPOSELY, !!!

@michaelrowsell1160

8 күн бұрын

You claim to be a democracy .You are not .No other true democracy has political apportionments to the judiciary .What could possibly go wrong .

@lisagifford5852

6 күн бұрын

​@@michaelrowsell1160Noem should take MAGA to the gravel pit, so we could see swift justice in action 😊

Joyce is wonderful! She'll tell you how it is. She has the experience.

I have so much respect for Joyce Vance. She is a ray of hope for Alabama. ❤

The DC case against Trump should be brought forward, if possible, even if it runs during the campaign period. There would be no consideration for anyone else, if their life or occupation was disrupted!

Let’s turn out in record numbers and vote for Democracy!

@pokey5736

7 күн бұрын

When people ask what they can do to help save democracy in our country, the best answer is VOTE !!! Even a better answer, bring a few people with you. It's our only power. 💙🇺🇲💙🇺🇲💙🇺🇲💙🇺🇲

"The judge may have slow-walked it a *little bit*"?! Understatement of the decade.

Joyce Vance for SCOTUS when an opening happens!

@gcro9206texanforever

8 күн бұрын

I am also a Joyce Vance fan, but I don’t think she will be selected for an SC position, as she has not been a sitting judge

@Mitch-fb1rn

7 күн бұрын

Agree. She is concise, clear and fair.

Love Joyce Vance - - her intelligence, objectivity, professionalism, analytical prowess, commitment to law and justice and human values, etc. But, sorry, the law and judicial system are doing a miserable job of dealing with Trump - - the culmination of their long history of protecting and favoring the wealthy, the powerful, the white collar, and the white.

@siouxrose7766

8 күн бұрын

She is too committed to appearing neutral and FAR too nonchalant about the absolute breaches of justice being done by those who are bad actors endowed with far too much unchecked power. All that intelligence and objectivity prove FAR too neutral in the conclusions she comes to.

@christal2641

7 күн бұрын

And don't forget SCOTUS's favoring the RADICAL RIGHT!

Make phone calls, knock on doors, write letters, write letters, talk to people, become poll workers. Every single interaction helps!!!!

@pokey5736

7 күн бұрын

And VOTE,VOTE,VOTE BLUE for decency, democracy and our many freedoms. 💙🇺🇲

Mr.Marc Elias Ms.Joyce Vance thank you for knowing the law for people like me who don't know it as well you both are truth teller blessings to you both.......

Joyce Vance is a gift to all of us.

Thank you 💙 both for protecting our American laws & Democracy 🇺🇸 ⚖️

My 41 year old son says Millennials don’t answer the phone for unknown numbers, and therefore, don’t participate in polls. This gives me hope.

@smdpc

7 күн бұрын

Polls are deeply flawed for many reasons. Ask yourself, have the polls been right the polls right about President since 2012? No. Majority of polls wrong every single Pres race since Obama 2nd term.

@christal2641

7 күн бұрын

Me, too! (Though I'm over 70) Please thank your son for relievingmy concern about Millennial politics.

@pokey5736

7 күн бұрын

Me too.

@artistnumber12

6 күн бұрын

The polls are accurate… among those who still have a land line and answer the unknown number at supper time.

@user-cr9kj7cn4d

6 күн бұрын

Do they vote?

It's a bliss to see you both discuss the march of the authoritarians on the justice system and the voting system. Truly consoling!

@annakingry9157

8 күн бұрын

I'm a nervous wreck over all this! My fear is that Americans are too complacent from our long history of peaceful elections to pay attention.

@deniceeverham9467

7 күн бұрын

This process has been going on in plain sight since the last failed coup attempt. In 1940 orchestrated by fascist Germany. Check out Maddows podcast Ultra about it. Then it was laid out in 1971 in the Powell memo to the Chamber of. commerce. They have followed that plan. Taking power locally , in the states, in the governor level , legislation, and gerrymandering. Now they are rigging voting at the state levels . Using legislation to fight and restrict voting against the Democratic Party . That plan has been successful and the lock on the Republican states will be hard to break. But blame ourselves the main stream has ignored mostly because corporations own the media and they prefer republicans because of tax cuts. We all need to follow their path because it works. Don’t get mad get active.

Two brilliant lawyers.

Individuals need to be speaking up and sharing everything that is truthful about Biden. And condemning of Trump’s horrible behavior. Love Joyce’s advice of being proactive. If our Soldiers can lay their lives down for our freedom. Can’t we stand up and defend it, when we have the power to influence others?

@pokey5736

7 күн бұрын

Well said.

Love and respect Joyce Vance 👏⚖👏 Thank you for this interview 🙏

The students of Joyce Vance are very lucky. What a fine manner and attitude for a professor.

Bravo to Joyce Vance...she is one of the best!

Great job Marc. Thank you for all your hard work. I just love J. Vance, i think she's awesome.

I could listen to Joyce Vance all day.

Joyce, thank you for mentioning the slam dunk "felon in possession," because that's what Trump is right now with the gun he withheld from being confiscated when he was indicted and admitted to it during his probation interview for Judge Merchan.

Joyce is great! We need more Americans like Joyce.

THESE TWO PEOPLE ARE OUR HEROS. They also fight vigorously for each and EVERYONE of us. Every Damn Day. Just a small prayer each day for them. The least I can do

Both of you are my heroes!🙏🗳️🗳️🗳️🗳️🗳️🗳️🗳️🗳️🗳️🗳️

Joyce Vance, thank you for your work and for your cogent assessment on the judicial system and voters.

Just off the cuff responding to the headline question - trump has demonstrated thus far the the justice system is inadequate to hold him accountable. He has just the right ally at the right time, on top of his primal instinct to find every hole in that system. NY is the only court that has been able to show resilience and fortitude, despite treating him with insane deference.

If the justice system can get past tripping over themselves giving Trump more breaks than they'd ever give the average American citizen, yes.

@annakingry9157

8 күн бұрын

That's what I see.

@shellimendoza7332

7 күн бұрын

Good lord vote Blue

@Jerry-up8bk

7 күн бұрын

It's the Justice system! NOT , the DOJ ,it's trump judges and Lawyers Delaying things !

@Jerry-up8bk

7 күн бұрын

NOT the Justice system!

💖Joyce Vance!

The best way to eliminate the delay strategy is to jail the defendant pending trial. The defendant has violated his conditions of release 10 times by committing the crime of contempt of court. Judge Chutkan should order show cause immediately after she gets the case back.

@annakingry9157

8 күн бұрын

Especially, jail the rich and famous awaiting trial instead of just the poor.

@smdpc

7 күн бұрын

Good point. Trump has noting to lose from the stall.

@user-cr9kj7cn4d

6 күн бұрын

Now. Terms of release and gag order are still in effect, despite the stay on trial preparation.

Popular vote will eliminate the discriminatory electoral system and gerrymandering wrt federal elections. It is time to throw out the electoral process, and replace it with direct popular vote.

@georgesheffield1580

8 күн бұрын

I wish that was true but , those are just the first line of obstruction by the facist right.

@RidingWithBiden

8 күн бұрын

Yes, it is. The National Popular Vote Compact goes a long way toward solving the problem. We almost have enough states signed on to equal 270 electoral votes. Maine just voted to join & Michigan will be considering it.

@christal2641

7 күн бұрын

I assume you meant to say "eliminate the Electoral College" and NOT "eliminate the Electoral PROCESS". Trump has already suggested eliminating future elections.

@pokey5736

7 күн бұрын

The GOP is scared to death of the popular vote.

@user-cr9kj7cn4d

6 күн бұрын

Do not forget to eliminate the US Senate, which provides excess representation to unpopulous states! Do not forget to eliminate state gerrymandering of US-Representative districts and state-legislator districts! Do not forget to eliminate other voter suppression!

I trust no one more than Joyce White Vance when it comes to the handling of the Judicial system. Once again Joyce has made me feel better about how slowly the justice system can handle Trump, and the biggest check is the vote for democracy.

Great interview! Appreciate how everyone’s referring to DT as “convicted felon” now but wish he were also more frequently referred to as “adjudicated insurrectionist” too. CO courts found him to be an insurrectionist and SCOTUS did not disagree.

@bevtaylor5466

8 күн бұрын

It seems that when it’s in criminal court, I hear people say convicted criminal or convicted felon. When he is tried in civil court, they call him an adjudicated rapist and liable for business fraud and defamation. All of it means a jury found Trump guilty of these things, but the language is slightly different depending on the kind of court.

@katherinecrossman8521

7 күн бұрын

And did not agree either .

@karelancona7402

7 күн бұрын

And rapist.

@smdpc

7 күн бұрын

Good point.

Joyce Vance brings a comforting voice of logic to the madness that is Trump’s attack on democracy.

I would love to have Joyce Vance join the team of MTN , love her assessment and expertise.

When Mark asked what the individual can do and he said we feel helpless, I started to cry. I’m still crying because that’s exactly how I feel. I’m involved in local groups but it seems so aggressive out there and you just can’t have a conversation without it turning ugly. 🥺

@LynnMiddleton-ns4dg

8 күн бұрын

I know how you feel. Up in the mountains of North Carolina where IQ isn’t exactly high and Meth addiction is rampant as is domestic abuse, Trump is popular, Fauci’s name can be heard in connection with “the jab”, the border invaders with Mexicans getting free apartments, food etc. Having been living in Mexico as expats for five years we know better and also know it’s ridiculous to think any illegals are getting free anything except maybe water. What we do notice however is we’ve only seen one political sign and it was for Kennedy. Gone are the Trump flags and yard signs but the rhetoric remains. However fear is also pervasive on both sides which did surprise me. So not all Trumpers are out for blood thankfully and honestly what they fear I’m not exactly clear on and I don’t think they are either. Conversations are cautious and in low tones in public. People are hesitant to outright show their choice like before it was more in your face. Everyone seems afraid of violence on both sides which maybe the thing that saves us from all out bloodshed and violence. I’m hoping that healthy fear of death keeps everyone a little saner after the election.

Thank you for answering the question of what we can be actively Doing to help. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

Dr Vance. You look fabulous; AND you always speak with wisdom and clarity.

Why is she talking about capability, as if this is not intentional delay? This is clearly intentional delay to give Trump a chance.

Joyce Vance is one of my very favorite speakers, she is so knowledgeable and thoughtful!!!

Always love hearing from Joyce VOTE BLUE for democracy 💙 😎

Exactly Joyce!! People were like why is this so slow?? They had to make sure all the i’s were dotted.. and look… 100% conviction rate so far.

I'm looking forward to the supreme crap court impeachments!

Pretty hard to see any state as being balanced, politically. When you see the type of people they vote into political offices. Can you say Lindsey Graham. I'm a lifelong Floridian. And never thought I'd see the likes of our elected politicians of late. I'm so glad to hear and see there are people like Joyce V. and Mark, that speak to the truth of law and democracy. Not just left or right.

The individual can volunteer at the polls, support Democracy Dockett and support Democracy Summer and support your neighbors’ ability and motivation to vote, as Ms. Vance says.

Excellent podcast

A “talking head” with decades of experience, able to provide a deep understanding using facts, logic & reason...I’ll take that over “opinion” any day of the week. That’s me, just saying.

Thank you Joyce, your comments were very impressive!

She's so smart and thoughtful.

Thank you Marc I have learned a lot listening to you and your guests. You bring so much understanding to voting rights, and the law.

Joyce Vance is a national treasure. I listen to #SistersInLaw every week and am always informed and inspired.

Excellent! We definitely need more discussions like this! Thank you both ❤

That was FANTASTIC! Marc and Joyce, thank you for giving hope and inspiration. And unfiltered facts.

Thank you Marc and Joyce. I greatly appreciate and respect the work you both do!

Of course, I am a huge fan of both of you. Great conversation. Love the tip about the post cards.

Fantastic conversation. Two of my most admired & effective Attorneys speaking on issues that deeply concern me. Fascinating personal insights as well-very impactful. Mad respect for both of you & your colleagues. 💪🏽🇺🇸❤️🗳️‼️‼️‼️

stellar performance Joyce... you galvanize and make us optimistic..share this video!

The answer is that the justice system can handle Trump. It just needs to make the collective decision that it won't be played for a complete sucker.

Such positive voices for democracy! Thank you!

Great exchange Mark. Joyce is awesome!

Excellent discussion. I'm a big fan of both of you and am grateful for the work you do!

HOPE or HATE. Pretty simple choice America. We are better than an orange bully in diapers. VOTE 💙💙💙

One of the best, most informative websites. Thanks. 💙

Thanks for helping us understand what’s happening with our democracy and law.

Joyce is a national treasure! So straight forward and down to earth, plus a ton of legal knowledge and experience.

Fair? Really? Ten infractions of a gag order! Really?!!!!

I hope everyone sees that coming out to vote for President Biden will, in itself, not achieve much if the radical wing of the Republican Party is kept in state and local office.

@okeeydokeeey321

8 күн бұрын

Vote blue down the ticket always. Let's weed the garden!💙💙💙

@christal2641

7 күн бұрын

That is why understanding the Trump Agenda and Project 2025 are so important! Remember how Chris Christie blocked the Holland Tunnel for spite? It disrupted the supply chain for multiple states. Now imagine how Trump could weaponize every bureaucrat who wanted to keep his/her job, once Civil Service protections against political patronage are removed. Would Blue states suddenly lose air traffic controllers? Would state or Federal safety regulations violations be deliberately overlooked in a county depending on voting results? Just how long would it take before America became a 3rd World Country? The GOP is already pushing for elimination of child labor laws.

@reverbscherzo7850

3 күн бұрын

@@okeeydokeeey321I like that so much better than "drain the swamp". Yours paints a much prettier view. 💚

Joyce is Brilliant ⭐️, and she looks Stunning in red!

❤ Mrs Vance!!

As always, you have good guests and content with regards to our present political democracy situation...,thank you mark