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@moody9442

3 күн бұрын

you couldnt kill a 5k d3 college arena. you lost your team. get over it.

@wainber1

2 күн бұрын

When I think of interesting videos about the Yotes, I also think of an April 2022 doc from the Odd Man Rush KZread man titled “The Coyotes cap dump club” ( kzread.info/dash/bejne/gKypsdKTYdPUpsY.htmlsi=qHwQlrkxEVmce1V- ). Struggling to “reach the salary floor” in some seasons, he claimed, had been a modus operandi so that the franchise would even have a chance to break even. I’m not the least bit surprised considering multiple problems, whether during Meruelo’s ownership of that team or even before then, but after the team’s 1990s relocation from Winnipeg.

@wainber1

2 күн бұрын

@@moody9442I’m a neutral observer of the Yotes but feel for fans of that team after incompetent ownership group after incompetent ownership group let such fans down. I still believe ice hockey will continue to be played for years if not decades in Arizona even if no NHL team plays another game in that state during my lifetime.

I've been a valley resident for 20yrs, and Craig is the absolute go-to sports guru. Cards fans are lucky to have him join the group.

Yeah we really need a statement from the NHL clarifying where we stand now

Top notch interview, Brodie. I love how you consistently consider the fans' perspective in your questions and remarks.

Let's face it, the Valley had an anemic enthusiasm for NHL hockey. Even the media lacked covering the Coyotes. We are all to blame. Hockey at the highest level in Phoenix is gone for good.

@geoff3103

2 күн бұрын

if the NHL can work in Nashville, Raleigh, suburban Miami, Vegas, and suburban Los Angeles then it can work in Phoenix.

@elpusegato

22 сағат бұрын

​@@geoff3103it demonstrably can't, though. If it could, we wouldn't be exactly where we are right now. For whatever reason, the Phoenix metro area simply doesn't want an NHL franchise

@gomjabbar6246

20 сағат бұрын

@@elpusegato Will it work anywhere within the giant Phoenix metro area? no, demonstrably not. Will it work anywhere if Phoenix? Yes, demonstrably yes. It was fine downtown and it was irreparably doomed once it was a 45 minute drive for most of the fan base.

@geoff3103

17 сағат бұрын

@@gomjabbar6246 it worked before when they were downtown initially. Wheels fell off eventually the moment the left. I knew that back when i was a kid in college that that move would doom them.

Craig, there is a common theme here in the Valley with pro sports. With the recent exception of the Suns, the common theme between the area's pro sports teams is cheap/noncommital ownership groups (DBacks/Cardinals) which have less than stellar reputations among athletes and the media. I know it's a tough question, but what has made it so hard to get a consistently successful franchise here in the Valley?

@sit2go

3 күн бұрын

I wouldn’t count the Suns off that list just yet. There are starting to be some red flags with the current owner Matt Ishiba. One of those red flags is having Isiah Thomas secretly run the Suns. The same Isiah Thomas who ran the Knicks to the ground so bad. Nobody wanted anything to do with him for so many years.

@davidbrown386

3 күн бұрын

I would add Michael Crow and ASU sports as well

@YoungJobber

3 күн бұрын

The cardinals shouldn’t be Included Bidwill actually spends money and the jury still out on the suns.

@samuelfrick3475

3 күн бұрын

I would argue the Cardinals and Suns are more stable financially, although with less than stellar reputations at times. The D-Backs are definitely the most vulnerable of the remaining pro sports franchises in Arizona. I hope I’m wrong, but their owner is another snake oil salesman.

@geoff3103

3 күн бұрын

cheap and greedy people who are about short-term instead of long-term. Thats the Yotes problem.

There's an irony here that I haven't seen anyone talk about: The Coyotes demise began before they even arrived in Phoenix when an arena that occupies prime real estate downtown was built specifically for basketball. Now, the "solution" is to move the team to a city that has the EXACT SAME PROBLEM!!! A hockey-ready arena is still not a reality for the franchise. I hope the SEG can get it done, but I'm skeptical. It's all just talk until it actually happens...

Maybe Meruelo and the Coyotes forgot that game 7 was yesterday, like they forgot to pay the rent in Glendale.

The original sin that doomed the franchise was the sale by Richard Burke to Steve Ellman AFTER a deal for an arena had already been struck with Scottsdale at Scottsdale Rd and McDowell (the Los Arcos site). The two started squabbling, and Burke bailed and sold his share to Ellman, who'd struck his own deal with Glendale to build up the arena and a surrounding shopping and entertainment district (sound familiar?) on the west side. Thus began the long slide into ownership and arena hell.

@rhyshalloran9007

3 күн бұрын

Exactly right!

@wild_lee_coyote

3 күн бұрын

An Arena at the Los Arcos site would have saved the Coyotes. Glendale was the infection that eventually killed the Coyotes. Los Arcos is just a couple miles north of where the Tempe sight was. If the Coyotes had an arena there, then we could have weathered the ownership issues that Meruelo had. Without it you are looking at getting an ownership group that has enough money and interest to build an arena in a good location, and still afford an expansion fee, and cover expenses for a few years as you rebuild the fan base.

@mitchellr6301

3 күн бұрын

Agreed about the Los Arcos arena. I also think that if America West Arena was hockey ready, the Coyotes would still be in downtown PHX and thriving.

After 18 years of working Coyotes gamenights, I can honestly say that Craig Morgan is top level in every aspect. We may have less-than-desirable ownership for some of our AZ based pro sports teams, but the overwhelming majority of the people who cover these teams are exceptionally good at what they do. As fans, we're lucky to have them as people we rely on to make sure we're up-to-date on all that is going on with our favorite local teams.

He took the money and ran. I believe this guy never truly intended to do anything

@louiscypher4186

3 күн бұрын

He intended to scam a land auction.

@charliem9831

3 күн бұрын

@@louiscypher4186 I don’t know what his ultimate goal was but it wasn’t to run an NHL team.

@slapshotjack9806

3 күн бұрын

Not like he could’ve done anything about it 😂

I feel so badly for the Coyotes fans... I know that when we nearly lost the Oilers in the mid- late 90s, it was rough. You all deserve better.

@FAITHandLOGIC

3 күн бұрын

Phoenix did not support this team. They should have relocated 12 years ago.

@scottNNJ

3 күн бұрын

Those talks are so rough as a fan. I remember the Devils winning the Stanley Cup in 95 and not knowing if they would open the next season in New Jersey or in Nashville. It really puts a dark cloud over the celebration.

@fatshibaballs

3 күн бұрын

@@FAITHandLOGICincorrect, you don’t pay attention to anything except your own farts. The owner was literally looking to not pay any taxes on the property. Complete joke of an owner.

@666mathew

3 күн бұрын

@@FAITHandLOGIC They should've relocated 20 yrs ago. Actually, the Jets should've never left Winnipeg.

@brientaylorcohen

3 күн бұрын

@@666mathew 11,000 fans per game... losing tens of millions of dollars per season... no corporate support... no on-ice success... ....no wonder the Jets left Winnipeg

So does this mean the current jets can officially claim back "their" 1979-1996 history and record from the Coyotes from a NHL Point of View...?

As a Utah resident I feel for the Arizona hockey fans with the crappy situation their franchise is in. However, I do think that getting Meruelo out is the best moving forward for getting a team back. Having anyone more personable and trustworthy running the team would help bring better relations with local governments and the valley in general.

@slapshotjack9806

3 күн бұрын

Don’t feel bad for them they never showed up to the games

@revan5293

3 күн бұрын

Thank you for being kind. A lot of people just like to make fun of us. Take care of my team

@bena.3955

3 күн бұрын

I lived in the valley from 05’-2017. I went to plenty of games in Glendale and nobody showed up unless it was a playoff game or if the Red Wings/Blackhawks were in town. When the Red Wings & Blackhawks went to crap so did attendance for those games in Glendale. The novelty of the Coyotes wore off after their first few seasons at America West Arena. No city government in the Valley will ever trust the coyotes again. They bleed money every year which hurts municipalities that fund their arena. The only way the Coyotes ever come back is if Matt Ishiba the suns owner comes into the fold and proposes a multi purpose arena for both teams.

@tombraider2500

2 күн бұрын

For your sake, I’m hoping the franchise (going for its third location) isn’t jinxed.

I am becoming more of a fan of Arizona hockey w each passing day. Now more than ever that Meruelo is gone. This channel is my favorite. I am becoming a belated and future Coyotes fan for the long run. Watching from Detroit.

The NHL could not be happier to get rid of this guy. The timeline they set to get this deal done was way to short, and Gary knew that. They can have a fresh start in Arizona by identifying a solid ownership group. This thing was doomed with Meruelo at the helm the day of the press conference announcing the sale of assets and the NHL is fine with it.

CM has done a great job covering this ongoing story.

@sit2go

3 күн бұрын

Except the part when he was on his podcast for months basically laughing and talking crap about people reporting the Coyotes leaving Arizona. Until it became official and he basically looked like a complete tool.

It was blatantly obvious, that when Mereulo sold the team to the NHL, that he folded, but kept the charade up. No surprise by this news. I believe one day, Phoenix has a legitimate shot to be back in the NHL. But yoyr point Brodie, about the vetting of all the owners over the years, was an egregious eyesore, especiallly for Bettman! Plus this news Mereulo is building an arena in Reno, now? This makes you scratch your head, how truly invested he was in getting the new arena for the Coyotes. If you can't pay team hotel bills, and yet are putting ip a buulding in Reno. This reaks total imcompetance. The Coyotes fans deserve(d) an owner who walks the walk.

@slapshotjack9806

3 күн бұрын

They had 26 years to do that and got kicked out of 3 arenas because nobody came to their games and you think they have a shot at coming back 😂

Craig Morgan is a real pro. He's so dialed in on this entire situation with the Arizona Coyotes. Can't wait for Arizona to get another team. We saw lots of great games against the Desert Dogs

The simple answer is NO

If not I hope Utah can have the name. Coyotes are found in Utah too so it fits. Would be a shame for the name to disappear.

People below keep saying they feel bad for the Coyotes fans...it's a polite sentiment but how many fans are we really talking about here? The Phoenix area didn't exactly storm the proverbial castle in buying tickets, selling out games, buying merchandise and turning the Coyotes into a Top 10 profitable franchise that was among the league's best in annual attendance....none of that came even close to happening, so I ask again, how many fans are we taking about here??... and before some insecure bloke gets his knickers in knots over my question...keep in mind that it's a very fair question to ask...the recorded historical evidence isn't supportive of demonstrating a large dedicated fanbase in Phoenix...at all. The fanbase, by sheer numbers, sucked. And there lies the conundrum of NHL hockey in the desert known as Phoenix...it appears Phoenix gets in a line for expansion consideration now. Given the Valley's history with the NHL and zero cities currently clamoring to have an NHL team within their borders, it may be a very long time before a NHL hockey arena gets built, let alone an NHL team calling Arizona it's home. That 5-year window seems nailed shut but maybe a decade from now.....maybe.

@slapshotjack9806

3 күн бұрын

Exactly, the only ones whining are the ones that actually watched the games and are trying to excuse it as Alex trying to intentionally sell the team when the whole state of Arizona practically rejected them

@DarkForceEight

2 күн бұрын

There are plenty of hockey fans here. The problem is that they are all from somewhere else & were never given a good enough product on the ice to change their loyalties. Showing up for 1-2 games a year won't keep it here. THOSE are the fans that real Coyote's fans are most frustrated with, aside from the crappy owners.

Joseph Bonnano might have told Y'all to "forget about it"

very informative video on keeping the Coyotes in AZ

When the Expos moved to DC, people asked me if I would follow them. Uh...no. No freaking way.

@666mathew

3 күн бұрын

Expos are still way more popular than the Coyotes, not even close.

@thomasjoseph3488

3 күн бұрын

@666mathew Absolutely. Les Expos sont là! Expos Toujours!

@elpusegato

22 сағат бұрын

I'm from West Palm Beach, so I grew up with the Expos as my hometown team. I live in DC now and I'll be a monkey's goddam uncle before I cheer for the Nats. Never gonna happen.

@thomasjoseph3488

21 сағат бұрын

@elpusegato I remember the WPB farm team. Thanks for that. Expos Toujours!

In my opinion the best hope AZ hockey fans have for getting hockey back inside 10 years, is for one of the Reservations to build an arena (17K seats or bigger) tied to one of their resorts. They would avoid all the local politics and most of the tax issues

@thomasjoseph3488

3 күн бұрын

Great idea.

@moonytheloony6516

3 күн бұрын

That sounds good but, there's a potential problem with that....public transportation access could be an issue. Also being in reservation land means an owner may not own that land, right? So it would take an owner who is ok with that, and since the trend is now in surrounding an arena/stadium with a retail/entertainment district, owners generally want to own the land to have control so, for your suggestion to take off it would take an owner or ownership group that owns & operates said reservation casino who will have the knowledge and self awareness to hire people to properly run a sports franchise. I don't see that happening and here is why....the past-tense Coyotes have been a clusterf**k since they arrived in AZ. I don't recall any serious reservation casino business people trying to intervene either by purchasing the franchise and building an NHL arena. Given the number of rather elaborate casinos in the surrounding Phoenix area, it's interesting that no one has ever bothered to throw in on this. My guess is that they are not remotely interested for reasons we don't know.

@rozzie101

3 күн бұрын

I hope AZ never gets another NHL team...

@thomasjoseph3488

3 күн бұрын

@@rozzie101 You're probably going to get your wish - a decade, at least, but who knows.

@stevemansfield3449

2 күн бұрын

@@moonytheloony6516 I don’t disagree with most of your underlying concerns, I just don’t think they are insurmountable problems. Most of the reservations already have resorts and casinos on them, I believe some of them have at least small areas, more than anything the build out is a matter of scale. They have hired people to teach them to run casinos, clearly they can hire the expertise to run a club. If there isn’t an appetite for it, well then there isn’t, but I still think its our best hope for getting it done in under a decade

I feel badly, and as a Yotes fan, I say this, but the Yotes are done probably for 10-15 years. It'll be that long, I think. I think the NHL will come back someday, nostalgia is a big thing in sports, and markets change, but look at Atlanta, Denver, the bay area, Winnipeg, even Minnesota, etc. When teams leave, it is usually 10-15 years at least to return. Some even longer.

Great interview !!!!

Craig, please tell us whatever you know about the two prospective ownership groups you mentioned in your article

After 30 years in the NHL the AZ/Phoenix Coyotes journey has ended. Now is the time to focus on youth hockey development in the Phoenix & Tucson area and build many more ice arenas as the Dallas area 6:14 has in the past 25 years. Get some players into the collegiate and junior ranks and eventually the NHL. That would be a great new emphasis. Think London, Ontario - a hockey play factory indeed. 😮

@bena.3955

3 күн бұрын

Hockey is too expensive for families in Arizona. People don’t make good money in this state. Hockey is going to be limited to kids from families in Arcadia, Paradise Valley and maybe Awatukee. Tucson is too run down for youth hockey development as there are even fewer rich areas compared to the valley.

@Gogalen789

3 күн бұрын

@@bena.3955 Ever heard of youth sports fundraising programs ? Hello. Furthermore, southern AZ is not Bolivia or Ecuador either. Ahem !

I dont think the nhl wanted or think Alex Meruelo would get a arena on time and I think the nhl are happy about what happened and I think Alex meruelo did not have as much money as he looked like he had I think he realized he did not have the money to do what he said he wanted to do

How come I never fail and receive a truckload of cash?

@louiscypher4186

3 күн бұрын

Because you don't have any assets worth truckloads of cash.

Any chance Meruelo goes all in on his Reno Arena / Casino plan?

The crazy thing is just insert any sport league into this story amd it still holds. Baseball for Hockey or Football. Insert Fisher for Coyotes owner. It's sad fans & lonh time employees are the ones loosing out every time.

Great reporting on all of this! Ashly for the fans of the cayotes and hockey in Arizona once Alex Meruelo agreed to sell the team to the NHL for a buyout who in turn told the team to the Smiths in Utah that was the nail in the coffin for the NHL in Arizona. I think unless a new ownership group comes in with DEEP pockets the NHL will be very hesitant to bring back the NHL to Arizona.

Soooo, what happens to the statistical history of the Jets/Coyotes? It should be reclaimed by Utah. That’s where the real franchise is now.

Yea unfortunately having a team recently relocated doesn’t put them in the front of the line it puts them in tbd back Because any expansion application has to prove why the situation has changed in the city. For example The group in Atlanta putting the team over a Hour from downtown because that was part of the problem (allegedly) I think if it come. Down ti two expansion teams max Houston and Quebec are ahead of Arizona and Atlanta sadly

First, I have to disagree with you Brodie. Phoenix has now placed itself solidly at the back of the line for at least a generation, regardless of market dynamics, wealth, or history. I'll preface what I'm about to say by stating that I'm not opining on Alex Meruelo or his tenure at the Coyotes. But if you're the NHL, and you've been eating the $#!+ sandwiches that franchise has been constantly fed by seemingly every viable entity in the Valley of the Sun, WHY would you even consider going back there? From PHX's exclusive sweetheart deal with the Suns, to Glendale city government's trailer park behavior and crappy location, to the Tempe NIMBYitches - how many times and places do you have to hear that you're not wanted?...Yes, the fans got effed over. Badly. And I wish there were a solution to this, but unless the NHL is willing to break with this BS horseracing model of ownership, the numbers will never work...I played around with some numbers, hoping to find a Green Bayesque, community team ownership model as an option, but the vaulation numbers are just so bleeping wonky that organizing such a fan-based ownership group would in itself be a Sisyphean task. Quick rinse. If I set up a Packers-style non-profit, even at $500 a share (which is really steep for public ownership) , based on the $1B (arbitrary) valuation at which the team was sold to Utah, that would necessitate 2 million shares. For a single team! How can you possibly distribute that kind of security, in that volume, for one team? At one time? (The Packers have over 535,000 shareholders holding $5.2m worth of stock. But they started in 1923, have had six different stock offerings through the years, and have one of the biggest and most loyal fanbases in all of sports. The team is worth $4.6B as of 2023. By comparison, the Coyotes are victims of ridicule and constant trolling with zero value as of two days ago.) The good news is that team stock is deemed, as in the case of the Packers and the CFL Elks, Roughriders, and Blue Bombers, "gift money". The shares are collectors' items. They can't be sold or traded, and can provide a financial nest egg upon which to finance needed operational costs and acquisitions for the team. And if there is an area that could actually pull something like this off, it's that East Valley: Scottsdale, Tempe, NoPho, Chandler, Gilbert, and the rest of those wealthy enclaves there...But Arizona residents - and even more so their governments and politicians - are infamous for wanting to start parking lot shootouts over what to have for breakfast. I don't see it...If the NHL really wants to stay and play in AZ, they're going to have to bend over backwards with concessions. And I don't see Bettman or the NHL Board being in any mood to do that...

Tempe was the best location period.

@slapshotjack9806

3 күн бұрын

In a landfill 😂

Don't hold your breath guys. People in Ct have been trying to get a team back since '97. No mega arena, no dice.

What I would like to see is an Arena deal in Flagstaff where it's cooler than in the Valley. Since this team went from Phoenix Coyotes to Arizona Coyotes. Them failing as a team in the Valley shouldn't wreck any hope in the future of a NHL team returning to Arizona. Just build the Arena some where else in AZ!

@willp.8120

2 күн бұрын

Flagstaff? 🤣

Assuming a different owner, is Glendale’s arena not a possible option? I’m not a local so don’t know.

You said it right there at about the 8 minute mark just before the 8 minute mark What about the fans who just want their coyotes back. We now need an owner Who's willing to put up or find a place for the coyotes to hang out until A more acceptable arena location is found. I still say tear down the veterans memorial coliseum and rebuild a new arena. Hang out in Glendale till it's done..

I wish/hope Shane Doan can come back and maybe own the Coyotes

* No. It would be an embarrassment and signal of instability in the League. * Yes: The Phoenix market has prestige, and the League failed in Atlanta. Twice. * No: The NHL is fully committed to the Utah market now, and there needs to be an adjustment period before considering this market again. * Yes: We can rush it. The NFL did this with Cleveland.

Why should it come back?

The Coyotes aren't coming back. NHL really went overboard expanding in the southwest. Besides, ppl in PHX will still get to see Utah HC games on TV for the foreseeable future. But lets be honest: it makes more sense to have ice hockey in the snow capped mnts of Utah than it does in the deserts of AZ. It's not like the Phoencian citizens wanted NHL hockey. They were just there via relocation from Winnipeg since the league didnt let the team go to Minnesota

Brilliant business move

What is this a crossover episode?!

@davechan8613

3 күн бұрын

Mr Peanutbutter?

So, the big question is...will Alex simply retaliate against the State of Arizona by holding his brand and location hostage or will the NHL step in and respond to the hostage situation? This challenge could last for years if not decades depending on how infuriated Alex is.

@slapshotjack9806

3 күн бұрын

Actually the big question is will the fans show up to the games?

It’s amazing how you have to lose a team to give a shit about the team.

@slapshotjack9806

3 күн бұрын

Right?

Batman's probably going to want to give the coyotes identity to Utah like your parents offering you more asparagus at Thanksgiving

This seems to prove that the political leadership in Arizona don't care about hockey. Regardless of the ownership. This cancelation seems intentional. They are actively trying to prevent hockey from coming back. And he thinks the NHL needs to do better vetting of ownership groups? Any owner needs to be a billionaire. There's not very many of them. It's not like you have a dozens of options. There's maybe 5-10 people in the state of Arizona who could even do it. And probably only a few who would be interested. The politicians and population in Arizona at-large, don't care about hockey. This looks bad for the state. I'm not sure the NHL comes back. If the support doesn't improve, it will never work.

The league doesn't want another Flames/Thrashers situation. NHL hockey will never return to Phoenix. It's a crime that this was allowed to happen. Coyotes fans should be disbursed that billion dollars. Shame on the NHL.

They're Salt Lake City's problem now.

My conspiracy theory is that Mat Ishbia, NBA Suns Owner, conspired with the City and State to actively work on getting rid of hockey in AZ. It is reported that he financed the Tempe NO campaign. He has a sweetheart deal with the city that prevented the Diamondbacks from getting equal footing to refurbish the ballpark. He could have thrown Meruelo a lifeline and let the Coyotes temporarily share the Suns arena instead of ASU Mullet. All the pieces fit.

@DarkForceEight

2 күн бұрын

Reported? Not by trustworthy sources. Rumored would be a better word.

I hope not. It was a failure from the start just like Atlanta. The game is not ghetto enough for Atlanta and the players are the wrong color.

@PAVEL-JAKL

7 сағат бұрын

Atlanta will get nhl franchise by 2030

if the NHL wants to actually grow up and get better TV ratings to get more money instead of fleecing fans, selling ad space on toilets and putting out an embarrassing product they'll need to relocate teams to Atlanta, Houston, and Phoenix as those are HUGE markets. Plus relocate about 16 minor league teams to bigger markets. Expansion is a loser. If its so good the other leagues would have 40 plus teams by now.

@samuelfrick3475

3 күн бұрын

It’s the easiest way to make a lot of money now, but with way more risk. I agree relocation should be utilized more wisely, and I think the league needs to show more transparency for the youth and collegiate player development.

@louiscypher4186

3 күн бұрын

😆 Yeah sure destroy teams in markets where they are successful for markets where the NHL has already failed.

@geoff3103

3 күн бұрын

@@samuelfrick3475 And yes, on the youth level they are going after the 1% only nowadays

@geoff3103

3 күн бұрын

@@louiscypher4186 yeah sure just write off big markets because the ownership groups were incompetent. Riiiiight. Great idea. I hope you're just a consumer of business and not a manager at any level of it. Wahoo! Winnipeg baby! SLC!!!! Raleigh!!!! heck yeah!!! LOL at non-needle moving those markets are for the NHL.

@samuelfrick3475

3 күн бұрын

@@louiscypher4186 Houston failed?? They were never given a chance to be an NHL market. The Aeros were a successful WHL team and was denied of being admitted into the NHL. Atlanta on the other hand has failed twice already.

What do you mean by this competing interest with the Suns? Whats that have to do with the Coyotes?

@Chevelle602

3 күн бұрын

Competing ARENA interest. They want all of the big concerts and events to happen at the old arena.

@geoff3103

3 күн бұрын

@@Chevelle602 they (the Suns) don't want the NHL there because thats competition for them. Thats it. Well the Suns can get bent since they needed public money to fix up there arena. Concerts aren't what they are cracked up to be because you need 2 days minimum to set up and strike the stage. Hockey has no problems. Plus hockey fans are wealthier and spend more.

@Chevelle602

3 күн бұрын

@@geoff3103 Dude you asked what do you mean by competing interests and I just explained it and then you re explained it. You already know so why did you ask the question???

@geoff3103

3 күн бұрын

@@Chevelle602 "Dude" (rolling eyes, SMH) thats not a legal/municipal competing interest, thats a business one strictly from the NBA''s POV. Why would a city purposely keep out 18K well-heeled fans 45 plus nights per year and have 45 less nights not in use for workers to get paid?

@Chevelle602

3 күн бұрын

@@geoff3103 SMH ( rolling eyes). I didn't draft the agreement the city made. Ask them smart guy.

I hope not.

Maybe the solution is to move the Jets to Arizona, merge the 2 Jets histories since the Jets are facing similar financial issues in 96

@louiscypher4186

3 күн бұрын

So they can be unprofitable for 20 years go bankrupt, burn through 5 owners and then bring a second team to Utah?

@brientaylorcohen

3 күн бұрын

Bingo. Finally someone who understands the Winnipeg market isn't sustainable.

@ragemachine1559

3 күн бұрын

​@@brientaylorcohenthat is nonsense

@ragemachine1559

3 күн бұрын

Wrong won't happen, completely different circumstances from the 90s

@sykesknife4496

7 сағат бұрын

Already debunked by Chipman. Nothing to worry about in Winnipeg.

Sell the Winnipeg Jets history to the current Winnipeg Jets!

@elosogonzalez8739

3 күн бұрын

GO talk with Alex Meruelo! See how that works for you! Should be cheap!😊

@bobmularky7456

3 күн бұрын

That one playoff series win is really important lol

might it be better to dissolve Arizona Coyotes and start an expansion team from scratch?

Worst NHL owner ever?

@bobmularky7456

3 күн бұрын

Norm Green

@Toastbastard

3 күн бұрын

Harold Ballard

@willp.8120

2 күн бұрын

That would be Atlanta Spirit Group which intentionally destroyed the Thrashers to sell them off to get them out of Atlanta. The As owner is probably second. Alex M. Of the Coyotes is probably in the top ten somewhere, but definitely not the worst.

I really wonder how serious Bettman was/is about expanding back into phoenix and going over 32. An expansion team in means you need another in the already team heavy eastern conference, but then you have uneven divisions so you’re really looking at 36. Other than phoenix where do 3 other nhl franchises go?

@scottNNJ

3 күн бұрын

The league has no plans for expansion. I’m sure he felt rather comfortable making the 5-year offer knowing the likeliness of it happening.

@RJM1972

3 күн бұрын

Atlanta is working on a new arena north of the city and will seek an expansion team if they can build that. A few different possible ownership groups are trying to do it. The league would like a team in Houston because it is so big, but there is no specific plan there.

@HHSGDFootballJPD

2 күн бұрын

Quebec City is a popular favorite to come back.

@dmarshall5148

2 күн бұрын

@@HHSGDFootballJPD They’re not going back to QC or Hartford ever. They take away market share from Montreal and Boston, 2 OG6 franchises in 2 very big markets that have a lot of sway when it comes to league business.

I hope AZ never gets another NHL team...

Spoiler alert. No. They gone.

With better timing on all this, Utah could've just kept the Coyotes name. It is leaps and bounds better than the voting options 🙄😮‍💨

@aniballopez2719

3 күн бұрын

I agree. The Utah Coyotes has a nice ring to it. Better than the Utah Hockey Club or the Utah Yeti.

I simply think that expansion past 32 teams is a bad idea

Yes, but the expansion team needs a new identity, new colors and a new nickname. This is all the more reason as to why the Utah team should've taken the Coyotes moniker with them.

@louiscypher4186

3 күн бұрын

Why should Utah be punished with the Yotes name?

@joshuabrown5123

3 күн бұрын

@@louiscypher4186 Utah Coyotes sounds better than any of the 20 proposed names they came up with.

Sounds like the over 50 hippies in Tempe are to blame. The war's over hippies, you're side lost. I suggest you do what your parents did and GET A JOB!

@donkeysaurusrex7881

3 күн бұрын

That’s just like your opinion, man.

@RJM1972

3 күн бұрын

F off. He was asking for hundreds of millions of dollars in public money. Arenas do not pay for themselves no matter how many billionaires claim they do. Good for Tempe for standing up for themselves.

@donkeysaurusrex7881

3 күн бұрын

@@RJM1972 He was mostly quoting the movie The Big Lebowski.

Public servant Gallegos may be afraid of her own shadow

NHL does not belong in Arizona, there wont be any ownership groups popping up to bring a team back when its highly likely the team will barely be supported and will bleed tens of millions. Bettman had to beg several ownership groups to take the team including meurelo and they all regretted it.

The building in Glendale was fine for hockey, I was at a game there once. The team would still be in AZ if they were still there. Unfortunately the team’s ownership burnt their bridge with the Glendale council. Stupidity and arrogance cost the city the NHL.

@moonytheloony6516

3 күн бұрын

You were at a game there once, and does that make you informed? I've been to many, many games there. Many means more than one, more than two and certainly way more than three. Yes, the arena was nice but....but not nice for Glendale. It needed to be in Phoenix, or Tempe, or Mesa or south Scottsdale but not in the west valley. Glendale is not a Tuesday night destination when the bulk of the demographic is from the east side. The lack of public transportation was another issue...an issue they didn't have in the Suns' arena. Therein lies the difference and their attendance was BAD. Near the league bottom almost every single year. And as a result, the Coyotes bled out money year after year after year which is why your comment makes zero sense. You sound incredibly uninformed. Now if you can find a way to install a bunch of wheel underneath that Glendale arena, and tow it on the 10...eastbound into the east valley, perhaps somewhere off the 202 Red Mountain freeway near that 101 interchange, then you shall become a Arizona sports icon long remembered in the history books that have yet to be written. Until then, invest your time in some research to learn that which ya don't currently understand. You're Welcome.

@DarkForceEight

2 күн бұрын

City of Glendale broke their contract first & their relationship with the Coyotes was less than friendly before Meruelo was involved. The Coyotes weren't staying there, regardless of ownership.

Coyotes are dead, time to put a team back in Quebec

@TheHeston83

3 күн бұрын

My Avs share a history with the Nordiques also the Habs dominate the province of Quebec there's is a reason whythe Bulldogs, Wanderers,Nordqiues and Maroons folded because of the Habs.

@justinsolomita9283

3 күн бұрын

Says a guy who doesn’t understand logistics

@Toastbastard

3 күн бұрын

​@@justinsolomita9283 Or economics.

@ozzmoises

3 күн бұрын

@@justinsolomita9283 hmm explain cuz I see that Quebec has an NHL arena ready and an ownership group ready. Arizona has neither

@PAVEL-JAKL

7 сағат бұрын

Houston and Atlanta next by 2030

Just move the Utah team back to Arizona.

@NHLCrazy2007

3 күн бұрын

That will not be happening.

@mattreedah

3 күн бұрын

As someone living in Tucson who has gone to Roadrunners games, this sucks. Ain’t much to do around here.

@dsarmy1

3 күн бұрын

Ryan Smith owns the team now. Everything except the Coyotes name and logo. He is from Utah and loves Utah so their is no way in Hell he would move the team to AZ.

@anthonyrivera4735

13 сағат бұрын

@@dsarmy1 Ryan Smith is a Schmuck.

Arizona, Phoenix do not deserve the NHL. People need to realize that.

@brodiebrazil

3 күн бұрын

Wrong

@geoff3103

3 күн бұрын

They deserved to have a downtown arena. They'd still be there today.

@Joseph-T543

3 күн бұрын

@@geoff3103 that is just a lie. There is too much power working against such arena proposal. If it could be done, we would have seen it happen within the last 25 years of its existence

@geoff3103

3 күн бұрын

@@Joseph-T543 no, it wasn'tt done because they took the short-term, cheaper easy way out by building an arena way out in nowheresville. And now are trying to get a free arena. not sure why they didnt do more to get back into their old arena when the Suns went pleading poverty and needed public money to redo the arena. THAT is when they should've worked with the politicians to force the Suns to take them back as roommates. Every other team that plays in their downtown areas are doing fine.

@Toastbastard

3 күн бұрын

What Brodie said. Any region that can produce an Auston Matthews deserves to have NHL hockey. What Arizona doesn't deserve are the lame-ass owners who know nothing about cultivating a hockey market. One look at Vegas or Nashville can show you what's possible.

Sell the team to Quebec and move Detroit back to the west and problem fixed

@RJM1972

3 күн бұрын

??? He already sold them to Ryan Smith. That’s why they are in SLC now. Quebec is a very small market. Less than a million people. The other owners don’t want a team there while there are much bigger markets available. And there is nobody in Quebec City currently offering $2bn for an expansion team. It will cost at least that much. There were proposals to bid for a team in QC about ten years ago, but no progress lately.

@trondeaf

3 күн бұрын

@@RJM1972 they don't own the name rights of the coyotes. He can still sell that to another expansion group as far as I've heard

@louiscypher4186

3 күн бұрын

​@@trondeaf Nobody gives a shit about Yotes branding. Even if the NHL is dumb enough to go back to the desert the new owner won't pay for the IP unless it's going for $1.00.

@nickb2912

3 күн бұрын

Detroit has no interest in going to the west in fact they fought for years to go to the east

Can’t wait for Craig Morgan to go on his uneducated rant about how awful Utah is 🙄

@timwaugh9220

3 күн бұрын

I like making things up too sometimes.

The coverage you’ve done on the coyotes and the brief Utah rumors you’ve said about the dbacks have taken at least 20 years off me and my dads life span I hope you feel good about yourself at night

I personally blame the fans and the local media for Alex Meruelo walking away from the Coyotes. The criticism from the fans and the media went too far and was uncalled for. I say shame on all of you. Obviously, you don't have any class or morals.

@brodiebrazil

3 күн бұрын

Burner?

Pheonix doesn't deserve a team

It's not up to Gary it's up the owners but why the fuck Alex move them out of Glendale at a beautiful arena why not just buy it from the city of Glendale

Like Oakland, the two sides played hardball, and both lost teams. Some will applaud, and others cry.

@Toastbastard

3 күн бұрын

Same happened in Seattle with the Supersonics.