Can the All Blacks maintain their unbeaten record at Eden Park against England? | The Breakdown
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The breakdown discusses the All Blacks' first test match of the international season, focusing on their narrow victory against England and the performance of key players. #breakdown
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Eng fan here. Mckenzie is terrific and people need to give him a chance to grow and focus on what he can do, exactly the same with Marcus Smith. Both young and exciting but with flaws currently. Expect NZ to win by a 10 pt margin on sat but not before they have a few problems. Eng wont rollover. Some fabulous talent in the NZ team but ENG have some pretty hood performers too. Cunningham-south is only 21 but puts himself about and so does Martin. Look out for slieghtholme on the wing if selected, he's tough and can really move much like manny. NZ are the better side but you never know.
@ShaadHamid
Ай бұрын
As an AB fan, I’m loving the look of this England set up. If the momentum and incremental growth can be maintained until the next World Cup, I reckon England can be a top contender for it.
@plutoniumnitrate1201
Ай бұрын
@@ShaadHamid looked a lot like a springbok lookalike team in strategy and performance
@iallso1
Ай бұрын
@@markhankin467 only problem is that McKenzie isn't young, he's 29. Maybe Razor can bring the best out of him, but for me he is better when there is less structure in the game and not against tight well organised defence.
@hyllaf
Ай бұрын
mckenzie is 30 mate -
@vanessamay3689
Ай бұрын
Whatever you say about D.Mac he is a star to those overseas. He has flair and a good head on him when he is under pressure. Good to see he’s respected even if it’s not here. Go check out the Eggchaser channel for good unbiased coverage. I don’t abide by NZ coverage any more. Too harsh criticism and no positive feedback.
Patty Tuips was a machine
@richardscanlan3419
29 күн бұрын
he's really playing up a storm this yr.Cotter should take a lot of the kudos for that.
I would like to see Proctor and Clarke get a run this week. I’m a fan of Reiko but thought he was a little loose on the weekend. Start ALB with Proctor on the bench, the in form Clarke has to be given his chance he’s a bigger body and has vastly improved his work rate.
@austingtir
Ай бұрын
You're on drugs mate Sevu Reece is the best winger in the world right now. I like the combination of a big winger in Talea and a smaller more skillful guy in Reece. He scored a try, a 50/20 and got some of the games most crucial turnovers and made the biggest plays. He's leagues ahead of Clarke at international level and I genuinely think Sevu is the best winger in the world right at this moment. I reckon Razor and co have missed the boat with Clarke he should of moved to the chiefs this year and played centre. Rieko and ALB are not performing to the level expected I agree on that.
@axxey
Ай бұрын
@@austingtir what level do you want ALB to play to when he easily won every single measurable stat for a midfielder this year despite being behind a losing pack? Every single stat. Reiko had a terrible year and shouldn't be there at all. Proctor combo with Jordie is good, ALB is better individual at either position.
@austingtir
Ай бұрын
@@axxey I agree to a point on ALB he's the best out of those two but imo neither of them are good enough at international level for NZ. We should be able to find someone better. Proctor looks ok. Id prefer someone like the highlanders 13 who steals the ball on D like Sevu or Aumua but Aumua is extremely one dimensional.
@rugbyunit6737
29 күн бұрын
Sevu is our best winger so he definitely needs to stay on the right wing. Clarke does deserve a chance on the left though. He's had a better season than Telea this year especially compared to last year@@austingtir
@kurosakiichigo9545
29 күн бұрын
ALB is both weak & slow. At least Rieko is fast. Get Proctor to start & Rieko at 23 cover winger & centre.
Roigard is a huge loss at the moment for the ABs, he looked really good last year. Good to see Hotham called in as injury cover. Long term I think Reihana and Burke are the way to go at 10, I will be surprised if BB or DMac are anything more that bench warmers at the next RWC.
@kelbatt7729
Ай бұрын
Beauden wont be there
@axxey
Ай бұрын
@@kelbatt7729 hope not(despite him playing well this week off the bench), he's blocking the selection of both a proper 15 and backup 10. I wish Savea wasn't there for the same reason. I'm not that interested in immediate returns 3 years from a world cup, Razor is just covering himself, super conservative.
@LegendaryWizball
29 күн бұрын
Fergus Burke? He’s off to Saracens and is eligible for England.
@iallso1
29 күн бұрын
@@LegendaryWizball damn! He played really well for the BaaBaas the other week, he will be missed.
@LegendaryWizball
29 күн бұрын
@@iallso1 Yep. He was injured and missed most of Super Rugby. When he came back the Saders beat the Chiefs and the Blues. He was our Richie replacement. Big, big loss.
Nice Kirstie. Put those guys in their place at the end!
I don’t think JK’s seen the kicking stats. Australia and NZ kicked almost twice as much as South Africa, Wales and Ireland did in their games. Ireland and the previous AB side had some success against the inside rush defence by playing from deep, adding some decoy runners in the first line and then acceleration fast, sucking in those rush defenders and then play long kicks/passes to the outside backs, or playing your attack of good lineout/scrums where the defence is way back and attacking the line quickly. Mounga’s speed and passing game was good enough to do that. I think you guys need to bring him back or start Beauden at 10.
I thought perenara was awesome in the first half, passing fast and accurate
@MegaTkls
29 күн бұрын
Still too slow
Some NZ supporters ( thankfully not the vast majority) are blaming the score at ABs lack of international preparation for the 1st test. Can we just enjoy the games without the excuses pls, it's the same for NH teams when when the SH tourists come north. Not many squad get togethers before a test match. Don't hear touring sides saying we were tired after a long season that's why we lost 😂😂
@savagesaint4317
Ай бұрын
Yer, but we have all been listening to the international and national commentators saying this is englands best chance to win in NZ because its their first game together under a new coach, and most of us thought yer true. So now you just cant say the all blacks having no prep game had no effect on the outcome of the game that seems more suspect to me.
@Canvashed
Ай бұрын
@@savagesaint4317 think it's more of a case of wild predictions backfiring spectacularly and finding a excuse for the performance. You only have to look at AB ENG matches results to show it was always going to be a close run thing.
@user-eq9jv5uf7d
Ай бұрын
@@Canvashed Im sorry mate but if you think a week together with a new coach & no games in 8 months is optimum preparation for test match rugby then I dont know what to tell you. And absolutely NH sides touring NZ have used the "we are tired" excuse, both have valid points.
Another great breakdown from 3 of my all time favourite ALLBLACKS ever
how about plummer he played well all season needs to be give a chance. had it all over Mckenzie in both games
JK NZ 34 kicks. We never at WCup against France, Ireland, SA and Saturday v Eng. saw expansive rugby from NZ.
England are coming off a big season and should be bang on form, abs are a new team and need to find combinations. Englands defensive line was exhausting and hard to break.
@dulls8475
29 күн бұрын
Or England are at the end of a long season......
@limbothytimothy
29 күн бұрын
Logic works both ways, English players have all come off a massive run of club games (domestic and European competitions) and Test matches in the six nations, so by all rights can argue that they'd be less physically prepared. Add to that playing away from home and massive travel times and they've got every reason to not be up to pace.
NZ had moments of brilliance, but Eng looked more composed....Smith with weapons is dangerous for any back line. Absolute rascal he is!
@hyllaf
Ай бұрын
with Finley + Damien as halfbacks - that looks a real weak link there...average at best
Can we stay rev up against all the muscle mass other teams have, big units and fit, know ones talking about it.
I don't get it they say new crew with new players every player in this team played in the world cup last year it's the same team
@user-eq9jv5uf7d
29 күн бұрын
No Retallic, no Whitelock, no Aaron Smith, no Ritchie Mounga, no Leister Faingaanuku, no Cam Roigard, no Will Jordan, no Dane Coles, no Samisoni Taukeiaho, no Shannon Frizell..any other questions?
@BertFlashman
29 күн бұрын
@@user-eq9jv5uf7dTo be fair. It’s a new team for a lot of countries like England for example. It’s just the nature of a new World Cup cycle.
@user-eq9jv5uf7d
29 күн бұрын
@@BertFlashman Didnt say it wasnt mate, just informing this guy that the NZ team is not the same as the RWC team, Im not claiming NZ are disadvantaged by the fact.
Why not show man of the match Itojes try?
@austingtir
Ай бұрын
Because it makes Dalton look bad.
@eugenetaniora
Ай бұрын
Wow, just Wow!
if England nailed their kicks they would of won. Be another tight game
I would put Steve P at no.10 and Dmac at 15.... Also I would bring in Clarke to punch holes in the English back line....we need a straight hard aggressive runner....
NZ'ers are writing off England this weekend
@timmo491
Ай бұрын
@keithcrane469 great that's the best situation
@kelbatt7729
Ай бұрын
Razor isn't
@timmo491
Ай бұрын
@kelbatt7729 smart lad I like him but he needs a haircut
@eugenetaniora
Ай бұрын
NZ’er here, unlike others I’m not writing the English off.
@davidyardley512
Ай бұрын
No we're not.
How much longer we going to hear JK long foreolay
Idk why kirwan is still here
Hopefully now that Razor has not lost his first test and can't lose the series he'll play some brave selections. Hopefully they actually do some up front work and don't keep doing a deep pass out the back consistantly vs rush defence. Scott barret was a snail walking before halftime, completely undercooked not his usual high workrate. How can say Perofeta was good when Beaudan Barret(I'm not even a fan) came on with a massive impact and made him look completely ordinary. McKenzie had to overcome massively terrible tactics vs rush defence, completely hung out to dry by his coaches and forward pack. His kick not taken was unacceptable however when the ref tells him 20 seconds, tells him 10 seconds and has warned him the kick before that.
Jk why say learnings when you mean lessons
Probably not unless they adjust. They were lucky to escape with a win in Dunners.
Put the ball in the air with short kicks and quality chase, and that line will think twice before rushing up in defense
@axxey
Ай бұрын
Or just be the blues and take them up front, they would eat that rush for breakfast. Why passing deep out the back from 2nd pass(not even fast from 9) vs rush defence is baffling.
@dion6635
Ай бұрын
@axxey that could work too. A planned move with a chip into the gap and a couple of strong chasers, one to collect the ball, the other as support runner to beat the fullback, would work a treat imo
@axxey
Ай бұрын
@@dion6635 "into the gap" being the key thing, any form of chip is kicking possession away for no reason if it doesn't come off, as well as a charge down risk. It has a place to keep people honest but it's not a first go to. When using an organised rush defence it's a very obvious option and you'll find a short sweeper there often making a chip just possession lost.
@dion6635
Ай бұрын
@axxey kick the ball where they aren't... these are professional athletes who should have that ball on a string. Put it in the gap, not in their hands, and have a strong chase and account for cover defense. This is how we use to defeat rush defense when I played league. Its a set move so everyone is on the same page with the chase. Back your skills and make them think twice...
@dion6635
25 күн бұрын
@axxey I don't want to say I told you so, but those short kicks worked a treat;)
First game so they’ll get better
This was a woeful ABs performance with a few standouts. All over the park we have issues. Hope Razor picked this bunch for continuity and stability only. He needs to get rid of some guys who have passed their shelf life. Not sure how he is going to do that by having picked Barretts as captains, they are both liabilities. As for the wings who plays like centers (maybe they have to because the centers aren't worth shit) and a hooker who still cannot consistently throw in a line out ball and a captain lock who get cleaned out onto his scrum half's knee. Let me stop there. Razor, you have lots to do.
@williamgilliland8923
29 күн бұрын
tell us what you really think!
When Will Jordan is fit, he's the best winger in the world, some will argue 15 as well. But Talea and Sevu have to be the incumbents atm. Perofeta 15. Clarke should move into 12 at clubland learn his craft for a few seasons, hes big, fast and can bend the line, still young as well he'll be a weapon for the Abs in a couple years. Almost Nonu like.
@narcolepsy06
Ай бұрын
Clarke is a defensive liability on the wing. There is no way he could play in the centres, his defensive reads aren't good.
Only wish Codie Taylor could throw a ball in properly. Lost 2 vital throw ins. Should be replaced.
England will win - watch!
@bodybalanceU2
25 күн бұрын
no they didnt - did you watch
Nugget show l😊
It sounds like Kirwin did a shit
Boring kicking spectacle from both sides. Hopefully more rugby gets played in the next test!
This English side may be very good, but with their really poor front row they will never be great. AB's can make more of that advantage next game.
Perofeta should play first five. Mckenzie to the bench as Impact and Beauden's time is done.
Offside defense
@user-ee1zb1fn3y
28 күн бұрын
NZ props consistently going around the outside
Sir John Kirwin running around people who didn't even know how to play touch
Smiths defense was questionable so six of one.
@incognitobrown7782
26 күн бұрын
BS, Smith was the best player AB’s had during their WC wins along with Carter, McCaw & Reid.
The advantage of rush defense is to put pressure on opposition force them to make errors n prevent scoring tries,Disadvantage don't play it against springboks!! Phil Jones n Rassie designed it, Rassie is a doctor now Coach Doctor Rassie he is the only one with the antidote😊
Geeez JK is hard to listen to…..
no whitelock ,get used to it😅
😅all I hear is nugget
Swing low, sweet chariot Coming for to carry me home Swing low, sweet chariot Coming for to carry me home Next weekend England will beat the ABs - the English learn *VERY* quickly from their mistakes - they figured out evolution long before any others!
@rodeo4786
Ай бұрын
Thank bloody Southern hemisphere rules 😂 we won't hear that racket beating off at Eden unless there's more than 10 English supporters 😂 were can England improve other than accuracy you haven't seen the All blacks get their shit together yet but they will which is a shame cause I'm a huge fan of Jamie George
@ithper
Ай бұрын
😅😅😅
@user-eq9jv5uf7d
Ай бұрын
For a Saffa you are quite the England glazer..get up off your knees boy.
@bodybalanceU2
29 күн бұрын
singing a slave song is so oxymoron for elite english rugby
@user-eq9jv5uf7d
29 күн бұрын
@@bodybalanceU2 Old mate JOATMA is a Saffa still licking the hand of his colonial masters.
England wont kmprove as much as the ABs
Highlanced story tellers. This is my spot, it nevwas yours
This panel is actually very average... slow drink at a good bar later
ABs gad 34 kicks.. boring as hell..
@JOATMOFA
Ай бұрын
34 kicks! That's very boring and predictable rugby. My opinion is that England actually won this game - if they had a better kicker, they would've won. If the All Blacks didn't hold up the game with their penalties (game flow), England would've won. Also bear in mind that this is a game away for England and in front of a Kiwi home stadium - the Kiwi fans were not very friendly - if this was at Twickenham, England would've won!
@IverKnackerov
Ай бұрын
You muppets. One of those “boring” kicks was a superb cross field kick for a try. If my aunty had balls, she’d be my uncle. I think it’s past your bedtimes
@JOATMOFA
Ай бұрын
@@IverKnackerov Is your uncle your aunty? I don't understand about your aunty's balls?
@kelbatt7729
Ай бұрын
@@JOATMOFA but they didn't.
@JOATMOFA
Ай бұрын
@@IverKnackerov I'm confused, is your aunty your uncle?
This will be worse Llblacm season
Every 1 like on this comment = Sir John Kirwan increases his spectacles thickness by 1 inch.
Don’t see any difference from foster same team same plan tj is miles to slow looking for your mates in the stand before he passes