Hundreds of amps in Sweetwater and Kyle makes a shootout on 5150's. Never change, bro.

@TheCyberMantis

Жыл бұрын

No kidding. I would have been looking for a BadCat LYNX, but I don't think Sweetwater sells BadCat.

@user-vu7ny6lh5r

6 ай бұрын

James Brown in black man and white amp builder 👶🎤🙏👶🎤🙏

@MrBikboi

3 ай бұрын

@@TheCyberMantis Wow your tastes are soooo refined dude!

@TheCyberMantis

3 ай бұрын

@@MrBikboi Actually not. I have a Boss Katana head, and I am quite happy with it.

James Brown did a great job...one of the best amp designer.

@Reverend_Taco

Жыл бұрын

I’m very upset that he unfriended me on Facebook.

@riokinsey2134

7 ай бұрын

@@Reverend_Taco he did?! Why?!

At first glance, Kyle looks like the type of dude who listens to “Jock Jams” but ends up being cool to hang out.

Really like the long back an forth you guys were having describing the different tones these amps produce

Don is who taught me how to use a preamp through the return of the effects loop many years ago... Simple now, but at the time, to me, it was incredible...

Hey Kyle, You and Don should do more videos together!!! Amazing content 👌 👏

@ErikAnders

Жыл бұрын

Hell yes

I love the two of you doing your thing. Very grateful to have such amazing footage of some tone loving demons! 🤘🏻

Killer video Kyle, you know your amps Bro and Don Carr is a monster player who never gets enough credit, It just goes to show if you know how to dial an amp in its hard to tell the difference.

Your knowledge and ability to dial in those tones was sublime and you totally fooled Don. Well done Kyle!! 🤘

Killer demo. Thanx. This is the detail we need.

Really liked this video with both of you!

You had me fooled too Kyle 😂 sick video

Great video Kyle and Don! Very cool amp. I would like to see a head-to-head between the iconic 40w combo and the 15w combo through their individual speakers and through the same speaker and/or load box/impulse.

This was cool to see you guys compare these amps ❤❤❤❤ awesome vid

Great video, and you guys worked well together. No big heads just, just a fun comparison.

That was so cool watching this just now road test both amps! Nice!

Great sounding amps...I have a PV 5150 II and have loved it since they came out...

This is A+ content, my dude.

Dude iconic is getting so much love now. Seemed like everyone hated it at first.

@emartinezr

5 ай бұрын

Because nobody had played it, reasonably heard it, or heard someone who knows what they're doing dial it up properly. There's a few KZreadrs with amazing tones with the Iconic. It does have a distinct tone/voice. If you want to tame a bit of the highs and upper texture, don't go high with Presence and don't get super bright strings.

@auntjenifer7774

4 ай бұрын

😂 People in the n internet were trying to kill it before it even came out over it only having 2 pre amp tubes but clearly it sounds like an EVH product so it rocks !

Damn, Kyle, you are my favorite KZread Guitar Personality. You just have this "oh, Kyle, yeah, we go way back, he's a homie" attituded/lovable quality about you. Thank you, thank you for all the videos you've made, all the knowledge you bring, and all the good chuckles to hardiful laughs you bring, bro. GREAT FRICKEN VIDEO! \m/

@xiwiwix

Жыл бұрын

Thank you, Don, you were great in this video!

I picked the Iconic on both! I really want one now. 5150 Iconic just has a certain sweet sound to my ears, loving the chugs and chops from it. ❤

Hits one note "I thought it was in tune". Nope. It's a Gibson.

This is just another vid of proof that taking time dialing in your Amp/Head, can truly payoff...also is headache too lol 😆 😂 this was a really great vid today dude!

Cant get enough of this stuff man.. keep it coming..

It's insane how much alike they sound. I even preferred the Iconic on the first part of the shootout.

Man, you are a great host! More of that!

Mighty fine shootout! Kyle I’m waiting for Peavey to give you, your own model. 🤘🤘

Killer shootout! 🤘

I did this as which one I liked better and glad to see I picked the same amp both times. I will say when Kyle dialed them in they sounded super close.

Oh this fucking ROCKED! Dude, it's all the dialed in. And you nailed it!

What a blast!!! A joy to watch. Killer video!

Killer video. Had to sub. I’ve seen your gear for sale a lot on FB market place ! My studio is not too far. I’m in Allentown 👌

I would love to hear how the EVH 5150 lll models compare to these.

Great video 📹 I throughly enjoyed it. 😊

I own the iconic and am very pleased for the price, sounds great too..once you EQ to taste and balance your ODs in front this amp its killer 🤘🏻

Always happy to see some 5150 videos from you. Any chance of ever comparing a 6534+ to a 6505 II with el34 tubes? Supposed to be identical but for all of us looking for that unicorn 34+ it might be best to go with a 6505 II and get it ready for a tube swap. \m/

Both sound great. Good video. 😎👍✌️🎸🎸

It's all about taste, but these amps do sound very different. To me the 6505 has the mojo and frankly the history, countless bands have used it on recordings and tours, it's a legendary amp now.

Feel definitely matters! Part of warm tube tone

This is so clever and genius!!

I had an Iconic and couldn't trust that I would get one that didn't have issues.

Good job, Kyle you made them almost identical xD I had hard time differentiate which one is which. You should more colabs.You're great with others/

Awesome vid! Both amps rip! 🤘🏼🤘🏼

Difference is night and day, this wasn't a challenge. The Iconoc has so much more compression, gain, whatever, but you hear it immediately.whem compared. Great shootout!

What a killer vid man!

Geez when Don was trying to pick them apart, it was impossible. They were pretty much exactly the same.

Way back in like 2006 I had a chance to buy an original mint condition RG550 with the maple neck and the misty pinkish color for $175 and the guy also had an original block letter 5150 combo for $200 and I didnt have the cash for both so I took the RG550 and still wished i had the cash for both. The 5150 is a dream amp that always seems out of my financial reach.

Honestly, in a mix,. if you can tell the difference between any 5150, you're either guessing or bullshitting.

Nice video

Might want to consider a noisegate when doing these. Or put them on standby during the talking parts.

You can use a Parametric up front for the cocked wash sound too

Diggin the Iconic! Was surprised.

I have an original first release peavy 5150 and and original first release 6505 and LOVE them both.. And people who say they don't do cleans... I can get fender cleans out of both no problem.

great content. Considering you can get a 6505 for around 600€ used, 1992/ iconic or just a standard made in usa 6505?

Awesome content !!!!!! This is what it's about!!!!

Damn good video man

just got the 40 watt Iconic combo. Great amp, replaced my Blackstar MKII Club 40 combo.

@rollingstart_90s

Ай бұрын

The 40 watter is insanely loud, even while set on 1/4 power. Too bad the amp does not have a smooth master volume. Actually no master at all. That would help with dialing in the sound and overall volume.

This was fun!!

I was thinking of getting the 6505 1992 model.. would you recommend this one over the standard 6505? I want to get a death Metal black metal tones I’m sure it’ll do no problem..

Without know which one was which, I liked the Iconic better. Which is good, because I’ve been thinking about getting that as my first tube amp stack setup.

@Powermad-bu4em

Жыл бұрын

Do it. Put an eq in the loop to tame the top end and you won't regret the choice.

“This was his idea, not mine”

I think where people are messing up is not understanding how well they can do death metal. I have the amp/cab currently with no boost or noise gate (just for ease, live I use both) and I can get the sickest tones out of it. I can emulate stuff like Dying Fetus or Decapitated with ease. Use the amp for whatever you want, but if you're limited on money and want something for extreme metal, this is the way to go.

5150 Iconic, but a Les Paul going out of tune is pretty iconic as well.

I just prefer peavey as a brand.

Kyle, if you are putting in a EQ pedal in the loop, what settings do you have?

#2 sounds more scooped & more compressed. #1 has more sizzle.

I owned an Iconic that I actually super loved. It just turned out to be a lemon, and eventually got a refund for it so I bought a Peavey 5150 lmao but honestly the Iconic more than holds a candle to my OG 5150. Great amp, I just hope the QC issue on mine was an isolated case because I would own one again if I ended up 5150-less

@profanepropane

Жыл бұрын

Just a question but what does a lemon mean? Is it just a bad apple or is it a term for when something is vastly different in quality than the other copies?

@TobyKBTY

Жыл бұрын

@@profanepropane oh well i guess bad apple is more appropriate lol. It had internal issues and would lose low end and just sound randomly. Had the option to return it since it fell under warranty and chose to do so.

@profanepropane

Жыл бұрын

@@TobyKBTY ahh I see

Im not in the market for a 5150 thesedays, but if the iconic is good enough for the guy from the black dahlia murder, then its good enough for me.

i bought an iconic 80w head about 2 months ago as a stay home amp. it has been fantastic paired with an old 1960av and a charvel.. all the usual suspects!

@rollingstart_90s

Ай бұрын

Isn't that an insanely loud amplifier for home use? Separate atenuator, maybe?

Please, everybody, don't judge the Iconic from all the "drama" the amp had when it came out. And, I will say, there is a certain KZreadr that gave the amp a bad review after "playing" it at a guitar store, and told everyone "don't buy it". The guy's to listen to are Kyle, and ToneWars. If you want a FAIR & HONEST review those 2 dudes are the ones to listen to.

@rollingstart_90s

Ай бұрын

A lot of people do not realise how much amp technology has advanced since theoriginal 5150 days. Guitarists can often be some of the most stubborn creatures, downplaying new things that they have not even tried. The fact that this amp has hybrid technology is the thing that rubbed a lot of purists the wrong way, even tough the product wasn't even out yet. But again.... it is a tube amp + technology has gone really far. I just had a chance to test the 15 watt combo at a local store and I was absolutely stunned by how great these things sound. Does not sound like a solid state amp, beacuse it isn't one. I had the amp set on 1/4 power mode and it was LOUD. I only had the volume turned around 9 o clock. I was also surprised how GREAT the clean channel is, which was something that the old Peavey heads could never do. They were probably neve intended to do so anyway, but seeing this improvement on the Iconic is a huge bonus.

Wow I guessed the same as you but the 2nd shootout I was wrong just like don you know your amps kyle!

Phil pounding the door because he didn't do it first?

I never have much of a problem determining what amp is which. There is something with the Iconic that sets it apart. Not that it is bad, just something that I can identify easily.

@tedmen1123

Жыл бұрын

There is a high end sizzle in there that you can hear on the iconic. Like you say, its not bad just different.

@rollingstart_90s

Ай бұрын

@@tedmen1123 Could it mainly be the speaker that creates that sizzle? Could a Greenback speaker make it a bit softer/smoother? The original 5150 amp from the early 90's was created for Eddie with the Greenbacks in mind, which is what Eddie used. I don't know... I'm just guessing Greenback or Creamback would be the answer?

Never thought I’d see a video of Kyle Bull playing a boomer riff, yet here we are.

The iconic is a sick amp for sure

I had an original 5150 Block letter they had to change back in 1995 or 96. I sold it and it’s the one I let get away. I wish I had never sold that one

On this clip I liked the 6505 best..!! 👍

The 6505 needs an overdrive in front of it. Pick your favorite one, they all do the job.

If youre watching this wondering what to get, just get a 6505+ with the 2 EQ channels. Its incredible

Why not have a regular 'ol 6505 in the mix too??

SO whichever one yall dont want feel free to send it to me

Nice job dialing those tones in Kyle.

Engl Fireball 100 for the win!!

Some other people is counter phasing the B string because of C notes?! I don't know. Namastè.

I'm finally looking to drop some serious money on an amp after playing since the 80's and everyone is saying how affordable this is... I just can't catch up no matter what SMH

The real winner here was the Goldtop

Kyle, can you find out what preamp and power amp tubes are being shipped with the New 6505? Thanks for the content. Awesome stuff!

@belligerentamateur

Жыл бұрын

Jj

@joegoliver3

Жыл бұрын

Kyle look at that imposter above you on every comment.

@yeti1002

Жыл бұрын

@@joegoliver3 the imposter is pretty common on Kyles channel . By Reporting the imposter , you can delete him .

@AtomicMeatballGuitar

Жыл бұрын

I think they're 12AX7 preamp tubes and 6L6GC power amp tubes

@ronvest1968

Жыл бұрын

@@AtomicMeatballGuitarI was curious as to what brand of tubes. Kyle answered with JJ tubes. Thank you, though.

Crazy that the Iconic sounds so much clearer and more dynamic. 6505 sounds a bit muffled and flubby in comparison.

@rollingstart_90s

Ай бұрын

Yes. Over 30 years has passed since the 6505 first came out. Amplifier technology has advanced immensely since the old days. Brown worked magic on the Iconic series.

Shame they don't sell the Bad Cat Lynx

I thought the Iconic was better in both situations. I really didn't care for the 6505 at all.

Have you ever tried a bad cat amp

Don Carr is a class act and awesome guitar player. Great to see him on your channel, Kyle!

The Iconic sounds incredible to my ears. It's so fat and saturated. Glorious.

I've been listening for over a year all reviews on both of these amps from all demos available I think...Peavey sounds best...original sounds and tones and all tube and 120 watts

Are you at all related to Matt Damon? You look and sound like him. 😂

If you are using them IR's, you could probably fool some people

You definitely looked.

That toothy thing

Classic

Honestly for $900, there's SO many better amps on the Used market....just the reality of it.