This is how EVERYONE on the pop charts creates their vocals. And that is AFTER someone else wrote the music, and someone else wrote the lyrics.

They need a fry setting or vocal tuned more to harsh for rock and metal type music

Trey stop breaking down my excuses godamnit! Next thing you know, you'll put out a guide to fix my laziness.

@erikrummel6277

Ай бұрын

Yes please do that. Maybe I’ll get myself to record my own instead of watching Trey make vocals about farting into a can 😂😂

My favorite part is when you said the kid voice was 'scary' (KOwaii) vs 'cute' (KAwaii) lol. Solid tool though..gotta check this one out.

This is actually pretty amazing. Great tool! That final harmony was spicy and beautiful.

This melody is so good!!!

Bro, this is a great video. You really perfectly blended what is essentially a gear demo/product placement with a practical application and a lesson in how to present the best possible version of an idea regardless of technical limitations. I’m a crappy singer who communicates toplines for my “backing tracks for the song I forgot to write” with VSTs and such, and this totally nails the target audience (with my sample size of one 😂)

Ah man! You ripped into me in your song competition for using an AI voice. How the tables have turned!

@CreativeMindsAudio

Ай бұрын

i see it as he was saying, a tool for demos and what not. at the end of the day he'll want an actual singer to sing it. i always felt the competitions were more about final products.

@CBoxStudios

Ай бұрын

That competition was so long ago that the ai voice probably sucked.

@user-yk4gd1fl4z

Ай бұрын

So he should. Dont use this shit on a final product FFS.

@karmaandkerosene2885

Ай бұрын

You weren't paying him. 💵💵💰💰

@shaunpocalypse

27 күн бұрын

@@CreativeMindsAudio I love how literally no one reads the info about the contests before making comments on it. You have half a point, but no, it's not about a finished product. It's about a finished SONG. AI is obviously strongly discouraged because a song is about the performance, and AI can't "perform" per se. It requires absolutely no skill or artistic effort. But the production can be FAR from finished and still land as a valid submission. You can have a finished song and it be not even close to what you'd hear on a release, and AI definitely isn't something a person in their right mind would put into a finished song, except... MAYBE... Eleven Labs voice modding, but that's still a real singer, just with a drastic timbre and tonality shift.

I've done this to send to singers to sing for real. I'd say that's the best use for this kind of tool. Edit: oh

@treyxaviermusic

Ай бұрын

hahaha yup

Trey, get ready for the massive amount of AI voices every friday now 🤣

@treyxaviermusic

Ай бұрын

I did it to myself

I can use this for my female background vocals and demos!

This is actually a pretty cool tool

Ugh, it's actually affordable. I wonder how well you could use it to fix some of Suno/Udio's mistakes (if inpainting doesn't fix them), like extract the vocals replace them with this?

all you have to do is mp3 out the midi voice and put it in a celeb ai voice thing, singer wise. i did a ghost song and just used tobias Ai lmao

Is it possible to purchase an external voice and use it as a custom feature?

Insane

I have nothing against sponsored videos, when it is disclosed as you did. The problem in this case, I think, is that it prevents you from informing your viewers about the many options available to do this. I prefer Synth V, which is remarkably similar, but is not subscription model. Others who can sing reasonably well might prefer “voice changers” such as Audimee (there are others). Thanks for your video, anyway.

i really like the concept so I took a look at their prices. If someone is a full-time songwriter who can't sing, this would be an excellent tool at a great price. I'm a little concerned that the price kinda puts it out of reach for the average "in my spare time" musician, though. That's about as much as some plugin suites for something you might only use a few times a year.

@ryan_nstuff

Ай бұрын

but now that it's out there, there's enough opensource ai tools available that I could see a FOSS version happening.

Trey was this targeted at me lol

Since it converts to midi, is the quality of the microphone / recording out the window too? I assume that is the case similar to drum performances converted to midi are only looking for the hits and possibly velocity

@treyxaviermusic

Ай бұрын

It means that it doesn’t matter what microphone YOU’RE recording on, it’s always going to sound like the one THEY used to record the voice they trained the AI model on.

@d-no6358

Ай бұрын

@@treyxaviermusic that's what I was hoping. As long as the AI can "hear". I think I'm sold on this

I used to try to use similar tools like SynthV and Vocaloid before I got better at singing. My biggest complaint with tools like these is that they almost always sing with so little power and attitude/personality, which works for a lot of genres but not quite so well with rock or metal oriented music. I'll still occasionally use it as a writing tool, but it can be hard to really conceptualize what the vocals would sound like with a proper belting singer sometimes

creators will save the planet

So, they are filling the gaps one by one If you can't play instrument but can sing use this tool If you can play guutar but not piano or drums use this If you can't sing but play an instrument use that If you can't compose or write a lyric or mix or master use this or that Feeling me now It's only a matter of time before it throws everything away including us as well 😮

I have a good singing voice but have issues singing without hearing backing vocals. Does anyone have any suggestions for getting better without them? I know this is more a guitar and songwriting channel. I think honestly its just practicing singing to instrumentals

@charlesrocks

Ай бұрын

Practice more

@orlock20

16 күн бұрын

Backing vocals ad lib over the main vocals. A rapper with a hype person could have a ding in the head phones to note when to start and start again. Adding and then taking out the sound markers shouldn't be a problem for a sound engineer using multi-track.

The future is wild

@user-yk4gd1fl4z

Ай бұрын

not in a good way.

Really enjoyed this video. I like the idea of being able to get female vocals from my voice. I might jay say dirty things to myself though 😂

Even trying to go into this with healthy skepticism.... yeah my mind was blown in less than 5 minutes. WTF

Can it do low screams and pig squeals?

@treyxaviermusic

20 күн бұрын

no it is a poser

@shredenvain7

20 күн бұрын

@@treyxaviermusic Thank you for taking the time for that awesome answer!

Yeah, I know, I'm not taking it personally!

Not gonna lie, this software reminds me a lot about Vocaloid (using a piano roll and phonetics, amongst changing vibrato and other properties), but on strong steroids.

I so totally agree to this! How in the name of our Lord and saviour were people in the past able to convey other people how to sing without AI! Man, can you imagine the songs we could have had! Forget all the hits of the past, we need to start over! With AI! I'm not taking one subscription, I'm taking three! My music will be so good and singers will love and adore me now!

It's fucking fantastic! It can not be that easy! Why am I a lazy human, not a some kind of super duper soulless machine)

If this is trained ethically, then it's awesome. If not, I just despise it as any other Gen AI.

@treyxaviermusic

Ай бұрын

All of the voices are trained on real people that they contracted with as far as I understand

It isn't that I can't sing...it's that I have a weird and completely illogical phobia of singing.

@treyxaviermusic

Ай бұрын

Sounds like this might be the thing for you!

@rmp5s

Ай бұрын

@@treyxaviermusic Looks like it just might be...I can just talk and it makes it happen. Wish it wasn't damn subscription though!!!

Very Cool! Now if We could get something a little More Metal ala Rob Halford ,Bruce Dickinson for some good Power Metal, maybe King Diamond. or just go for Guttural death Metal stuff. still though. like I said. Very Cool!

They want credit card details to start the free 14-day trial. They can go to hell.

Two things: 1) In my experience, there is NO better way to give yourself a solid, intuitive sense of how to write vocal melodies than taking voice lessons. As in, within my first month and a half, my vocal melody writing became ten times better than it was before lessons. 2) BOY OH BOY, would this tool have been life-alteringly helpful in the days before I took voice lessons. Holy shit.

@treyxaviermusic

Ай бұрын

Yeah, I've had people send in songs that were written with AI voices but it sounds like they've never heard a person sing before, like they wrote th melody on guitar and it's something no person would ever sing

I’m ok with using AI as a brainstorming tool. Don’t use that in the final product though. Recreate it, even if it’s not 100% perfect.

@progfox

27 күн бұрын

im against most ai use but this seems fine to use as a last resort. im just some guy in my basement and if i wanted a female singer, i dont have the resources to get that in the first place. i think it depends on your situation. if you can do it for real, do it 100%, but if you cant, i dont think its that big a deal.

I remember when they came out with auto tune, and THAT seemed impossible. THIS is unreal. Also, I am old. Also also this video made me literally LMAO.

Seems like a great tool but not sure if I'd get much done as I'd waste hours punching in the darkest lyrics possible, including all the "RAWR"s, "BLEGH"s and "ARF ARF"s, but use the sweetest angel voice available, just for giggles.

@user-cf1ov2qp2i

Ай бұрын

I have done that, and got my song gonged by Trey because the vocals "sounded uncanny and AI generated"

But when the producer finds out how much the artist will cost that producer will just keep the AI version. 😢

@treyxaviermusic

8 күн бұрын

Producers don't pay the artists, that's not how it works

@SoCalPatriot

7 күн бұрын

@@treyxaviermusic So then enlighten us..

It's always a complex subject. A tool Vs an ai that makes things to you. Respect man, but, if u can't sing and the aí sing to u, is the second type of ai. U know how a good singer sings, but u can't. A person can know how a good drummer plays, but can't do it. I think in the future we will have more "producers" than musicians. 😁. Complex subject.

I want to hear your terrible falsetto impression of what she's supposed to sing.

This is definitely NOT for me. My attitude is that if you can't sing. Just don't. Find somebody who really can.

@treyxaviermusic

22 күн бұрын

That's the point of this - you can use it to write something for that somebody to sing. Plenty of great singers can't write for shit

@johndo9648

22 күн бұрын

Good point. Ai tools are exponentially getting better by day. Very exciting. Can’t wait for a AI co-producer / mixing engineer to make productions with. “More bongo’s jives and a new vocalist… yes please”

@StormInDiDormEntertainment

4 күн бұрын

He suggested using it to pitch a song as a reference track. Not to put it out as an actual song with the AI lol

There are plenty of these tools. I just wonder why anyone would need an AI singer. AI doesn’t have an artist persona. You can't perform live with AI singing, and you can’t create any content with AI singing other than music without real people behind it. Who would be interested in that?

Irritated by the start, I later on felt like saying thank you for making me - at least feel like about to - understand what's so relevant about AI singing: if you find a melody you can have the best or the worst to sing it. I would like to add - having seen all - that the presentation, the performance of any song is decisive. Like, quote, Tina Turner, when asked to sing a song: "Yes, I can - do it", i.e. make a melody a song. In fact, same thing, said from the other side. What you emphasize right from the start, to me, seems that from now on any tune or combination of tones can be "turned out" a song, if it fits the right voice. Also, singing - and only singers would disagree, at all - is clearly defined as a skill just like any other. Question: don't you need great voices for the input, from the start? The example you give at the beginning of your video looks like an argument.

I mean obviously this is a great tool, but you just know some people are going to use it to cheat and it destroys my faith in music not to know whether I'm listening to AI or not. That's why these things suck.

@treyxaviermusic

Ай бұрын

That's the large-scale problem with AI though, and I very much agree with you on that. People always abuse technology, it's why we can't have nice things. But we can't let those assholes ruin everything

One problem with this is that some “creators” will undoubtedly release songs with these AI vocals on the finished product, possibly as the only top line. Your expressed use for this tech makes sense, but people will not adhere to it. Social disrespect for this choice will be unsufficient to stop AI voices / top lines from becoming normal. What happens in 3-5 years when this technology’s update or successor provides an option to write melodies as well? AI will be used to “compose” every aspect of music that we consider intel property. I love what you do Trey, but it’s irresponsible to promote such tech developments.

@treyxaviermusic

Ай бұрын

There's already loads of AI that does that kind of writing, and it's terrible, but this isn't that. Just because lazy people will abuse this and put out music with this as the topline doesn't mean it shouldn't be promoted as an incredibly useful tool. Lazy and uncreative idiots will always abuse any new tech.

@moeclomo

Ай бұрын

@@treyxaviermusic I hope you’re right. Just to balance out my negative comment, I will admit that you are, IMO, the most inspiring musician and teacher around. I look up to your musical knowledge and opinions more than those of anyone else.

@user-yk4gd1fl4z

Ай бұрын

Hopefully in that case, that lame arse music gets the attention it deserves, i/e ZERO. GENERATIVE A.I means you get fuckin zero respect and thats the way it should be, forever.

I can’t stand the sound of heavily computerized voices. There’s no grit or emotion. Boring.

Dont bother pitching it to a female artist just stick with the ai woman you used.

@johndo9648

22 күн бұрын

Nitpick much. It’s a demonstration. You do you.

@fatmasglobal

21 күн бұрын

@@johndo9648 I'm just saying if you go to the trouble to create it why not just keep it? 😁

But Trey, we're not here because we create trashy generic pop.

@treyxaviermusic

4 күн бұрын

What you make with the tools is up to you

first off i have issues with the crap you and other "SOCIAL MEDIA INFLUENCER MUSICIANS" spew the whole B.S. of constantly put new stuff out don't worry that it's not perfect. Me i am one of those true musicians who believe you do not release stuff till it's absolute perfect and meets your vision 100 percent i started playing guitar and writing songs in 1990 and i have over 3000 songs, or should i say song ideas since they are partial lyrics or just titles, since my playing skills are not up to meet how i want the songs to be. I will not take the lazy way out of using plug ins, studio musicians, drum loops, click, kick tracks, backing music tracks, or cut/copy paste instead of the old school way of double tracking, layering and recording parts buy actually playing the parts over and over again. ( wont go into why that is better and you get more out of that than using the lazy cut/copy and paste. also Modern day musicians/artists/bands have become too lazy and dependent on technology. MY motto is never put trust or faith in technology cause it will fail and or betray you when you need it the most. As for AI for singing. I can not sing my way out of a wet paper bag. My voice when i sing sounds like music played on a cassette that the cassette player is slowly dying and the music is slowing down with the vocals. That is how my voice sounds.I have a vision of what my music is supposed to sound like and I will not compromise it even if it takes me till i am 99 years old to release my first song/album. Those who use these lazy ways of doing Music whether it is click, kick tracks, drum loops, backing tracks for the music, Singing, Musical instrument parts (I have no problem with backing tracks for sound effects like crowd noise, gunfire, lightning, thunder, or narrative speaking like the prayer in Metallica's enter sandman or at the beginning of Megadeth's Captive honour track from countdown to the extinction) Then there is the lazy vocalist vocals, which is known as cookie monster vocals, or i call it either angry dog barking vocals or more accurate the lazy vocalist vocals, you know them as growl vocals. then there is the lazy using plug ins, computers, drum loops, instead of real instruments, real amps, real speakers, real speaker cabinets. I am tired of the whiny safe space/cry closet woke , entitlement snowflakes whining about it costs too much to travel with real amps, cabinets, rack effects, blah-blah -blah. Guess what that is a part of being a musician DEAL WITH IT. I will never to the falling in reverse Ronnie Radke thing. Me and my future bands will have real amps, real cabinets and real speakers, racks and pedalboards, and since my future band will have 2 drummers and 3 guitarists the drumkits will not be these what i call kiddie drum kits, They will be full oll out kits, like Neil peart and Terry Bozzio, etc. Also will not allow producers no matter how famous they are, do what i call the Dann Huff Move (you know without band, artists knowledge or consent, either they or a studio musicians they hired changes and or adds parts and or remove parts behind the artists/bands backs, as Dann Huff did with Megadeth) I will not tolerate that from any producer no matter how famous, if they did that i and i found out they would be fired on livestream so the world could see it and they would not get paid for their services cause they would have broken the agreement between producer and client. Right now todays musicians, artists have become too lazy and dependent on technology. Dave mustaine was 1000 percent correct when he said something to the effect that due to technology there is a lot talentless people recording and releasing crap and passing it off as music today. Guess what when you flood the market with crap, guess what happens, consumers start to buy less or stop buying all together. That is why the album sells, cd sells are way down. also bands, artists bought into the lie from record labels, social media clowns or whoever and that if you don't release new content, material every 3 to 9 months, then people will forget about you and move on to the next flavor of the moment. I can easily prove that to be b.S. Guns n roses Chinese Democracy album took 8 years and multiple lineup changes and when it was releases there still was tons of fans buying in and going to see them in concert. Putting crap out every 3 to 9 months hurts the quality of that material. You need to spend more time on the music. Otherwise you get filler songs. when people did buy albums, and artists, bands spent like a couple years to release music. You make get 1-3 and very rarely 4 filler songs out of the standard 10/11 track album. (yes i consider 10 or 11 tracks is standard for albums) today you rarely get 4 good songs and even rarer is getting hits. most of the songs on albums today are filler songs. they are as crappy as these left wing reboots of classic movies and tv shows. Me my sole passion is music and i will never compromise my vison for my music even if it means i will be in my 90s before releasing my first song or albums. other musicians, bands, artists, and "Social Media Influcencer Musicians" who are a lower class of musicians. May have no problem with releasing crap, constantly till they get to the jems. I am not, I will not release a song, or album if there is one note out of place, if the vocalist didn't sing one word right. or if the color of the album artwork is off by a shade, i will not release it till it meets my vision. Those who use these lazy tactics of technology should not be looked up to as great musicians, bands, in fact their musical standing, credibility or whatever you want to call it should drop by 10 each time they use lazy tactics, If you can not sing, hire a vocalist to sing the part. but using A.I. i am totally against it. They already trying to replace crappy pop artists with a AI Artist called Miquela. There needs to be a limit and no it should not be easy to where anybody especially the lazy and those with no talent and no true passion for music to record and release crap and pass it off as music. But that is my stone cold brutal absolute truth opinion and as the saying goes opinions is like A--Holes, everybody has one. so i will say i am simply against using A.I.

@treyxaviermusic

Ай бұрын

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@ThomsenTower

Ай бұрын

@@treyxaviermusicThis dude is not into “the brevity thing”…

@andrewjacksonmusic

Ай бұрын

Feels like an AI 🤖 Wrote that 😂😂

@guitar_nerd

Ай бұрын

nobody stops you from doing that.