without war? it started in 2014 - 9 years ago.. WAR

@knowbuddee

6 ай бұрын

Maybe it got started over 2000 years ago...maybe the ruling elite families have wealth/power that goes back more than 2,000years.... maybe Pontius Pilate, Custer, LBJ, Biden,Zelensky, Netanyahoo & many others have much in common.

@vitaliyt8571

6 ай бұрын

And it was war with Russia from 2014.

@lilljacob

6 ай бұрын

This started over 2000 years ago

@serrahighsfinest

6 ай бұрын

This has been going on alot longer than that.

@mmoxam6963

6 ай бұрын

​@lilljacob No it didn't!

The United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA) said late Monday it has been forced to close all 14 of its food distribution centers in Gaza and “as a result half a million people have stopped receiving vital food aid.” More than half of its population lives in poverty and is food insecure, with nearly 80% of its population relying on humanitarian assistance. Gaza is one of the most densely populated places on Earth, where some 2 million people live in an area of 140 square miles. It has been almost completely cut off from the rest of the world for nearly 17 years. Israel also maintains an air and naval blockade on Gaza.

@truthseeker2648

6 ай бұрын

The right wing of Israel has plans to genocide the Palestinians! They want to increase their State all the way to the Mediterranean Sea! We usa must NOT support this fascist Israel in anyway!

@mobilusinmobili8321

6 ай бұрын

Because Islam chooses to be oppressive.

@bo2.4u6

6 ай бұрын

Thank U 4 the info From your lips to Gods ears. ❤

@donnaroberts4309

6 ай бұрын

Yes...so when Netanyahu says to evacuate in 24hrs....my question is...to where? So nice v him to let them know hes about to cluster bomb the shit out v them...when theres no where safe to take your children or elderly.. Another sadistic mind game from the most sadistic bastard alive.

@cortneyeverett6927

6 ай бұрын

🗣Repent Israelites all praise to the most high YAHAWAH AND HIS SON YAHAWASHI🤴🏽🦁👑🛸🔥 The so called black man, Latino, and Native Americans are the Israelites. Yahawah chosen people. That are scattered in all nations through our fathers. Making them Israelite foreigners/Scattered sheep/The multitude. Yahawashi speaking: Matthew 15:24 “But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel. Deuteronomy 7:6 “For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth. Job 9:24 “The earth is given into the hand of the wicked: he covereth the faces of the judges thereof; if not, where, and who is he? Revelation 2:9 “I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan

What does Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan all have in common? The United States

@aznsbd

6 ай бұрын

Whose existence is threatened by its neighbor?

@tobyclear1651

6 ай бұрын

Ruled by Rothschild & their servants: Many old boy 'victims' of Epstein/Mossad/CIA/MI6 honey traps - standing for endless war, terrified of world peace, democracy & truth!

@Monkismo

6 ай бұрын

Yes, somehow these conflicts are a matter of national security for the US, but not for the dozens of countries in those areas...

@kenny6920

6 ай бұрын

This isnt the big brain take you think it is lol

@Brianbeesandbikes

6 ай бұрын

u$a's elites seek to privatize the world under their financial and military thumb. To label Putin as the big bad bully is to confuse u$a's global system of threats and how symptoms like Putin are inevitable. Replace u$a's elitism with American egalitarianism. Full stop. THAT'S the real world.

Barbara Smith defends peace as long is on her terms and her terms only :)

@user-ur1uy7dz7e

6 ай бұрын

She’s a self serving hypocrite

@maryanchabursky9148

6 ай бұрын

As opposed to on putins terms.

@emileblanche5868

6 ай бұрын

@@maryanchabursky9148That’s the problem with a lot of these soy latte hippie liberals. They think peace literally just means the absence of noise.

Media, when you use the words "Marjorie Tailor Greene" and "sane" in the same sentence, I think you need to seriously re-think your argument.

@whatsupduckk

6 ай бұрын

She never said MTG was sane, she said she is the only save voice in this matter. Stop fooling yourself and others. The messaging can be specific regardless of persons, and their alliances. Medea explicitly said she hopes voices on the left were the ones pushing for that messaging instead of MTG.

@carolo364

6 ай бұрын

It is Medea

Thumbs up for Medea Benjamin.

I’m with Barbara Smith on the right of Ukraine to fight the invasion by Putin’s fascist regime.

@tsun9845

6 ай бұрын

Ukraine, Poroshenko started this war in 2014 not Putin. Putin defends interests of Russia, which is a duty of a president.

Another thing to add here. Follow the money. Trace the money back to who is getting extremely rich and wealthy from these weapons sales. You will find that all of these peoples loyalties are based on that.

Good on you Medea, spot-on.

@namastezen3300

5 ай бұрын

I'm certain that invaders to your neighborhood are treated royally, food, beverage and unlimited hospitality. Talking to putin is accepting his unnecessary, optional, costly invasion of Ukraine.

@EHed-kv2wb

5 ай бұрын

You're a war crime apologist are think illegal annexations/invasions of peoples land is fine. Disgusting.

Curious what Smith's and others solution is to endless war? Not once did I hear a "realistic" solution proposed or discussed. Just how she 'felt' about it. What do people see happening through the battlefield in their best case scenario? Legitimately curious. If the solution is U.S imperialism and war determining the fate of non-democratic states; is this what we consider to be a victory in the West? Consider the implications of a pro- U.S imperialist position as your primary solution if that is the case. Curious if that makes sense for a more peaceful and free world or if it leads to further oppression and control of the world for the primary benefit of western economic (military industrial) supremacy?

@jacqdanieles

6 ай бұрын

They're just peaceniks with zero plans for addressing reality

@thelivinggoddess6

6 ай бұрын

Business Insider ran a report in May 2022: 20 members of Congress personally invest in top weapons contractors that'll profit from the just-passed $40 billion Ukraine aid package

@dannyv2468va2

6 ай бұрын

Typical left-wing BS Putin is a ruthless dictator who is trying to conquer a free people. Old communists' network that wants Russia to enslave the Ukrainians.

@maryanchabursky9148

6 ай бұрын

Bruh, not even 2 years is not a “endless war”. The pro appeasement crowd has proposed exactly zero realistic solutions (all they propose is “sit down and talk” as if Ukraine and ruSSia are unable to negotiate without being face to face). 😂😂😂 what does US imperialism have to do with ruSSias imperialist invasion of Ukraine?

@rebelmango2141

4 ай бұрын

Cause appeasement is a realistic solution right. Is Russian imperialism determining the date of democratic states preferable to you. NATO countries are peaceful so yeah "US imperialism " does do that to the alternative. Curious if you think being a Russian puppet isn't oppressive

How do we achieve peace? by signing the Minsk accord with intention to cheat, or by not even discussing the 3 proposals Putin put forward before war, or by stopping the Istanbul peace talk, or by outlawing any negotiation with Russia?

@queenredspecial

6 ай бұрын

Spot on!

@flopoz2575

6 ай бұрын

_How do we achieve peace? by signing the Minsk accord with intention to cheat_ - exactly, Russia never implemented Minsk I agreements in the first place and broke Minsk II less then 24h after signing it. Even though Minsk Agreements were very unfavorable for Ukraine and Ukrainians were coerced to sign them against their best interest, Putin's regime still neven upheld them. _or by not even discussing the 3 proposals Putin put forward before war_ - Both French president Macron and German chancellor Scholz personally assured Putin, that they would veto any attempt by Ukraine to join NATO, and he wasn't interested. When Zelensky and Biden called Putin, he didn't even answer the calls. Instead he made an impossible request for NATO to retreat to its pre 1999 status, knowing perfectly well NATO is unable to comply (because it would require agreement from all new NATO members, and they would never do that). Putin deliberetely demanded impossible, because he was not interested in talks, he was looking for a pretext for war. _or by stopping the Istanbul peace talk_ - Istanbul negotiations died when Russia withdrew from Kyiv and evidence of Russian atrocities and war crimes in places like Bucha and Irpien surfaced. As for the "peace talks" themselves, they were very early negotiations and there wasn't even any agreement or peace plan on the table to begin with. _or by outlawing any negotiation with Russia_ - No one outlawed negotiating with Russia, Zelensky only outlawed talking with Putin, because there is no negotiating with a fascist dictator hell bent on destroying your nation, that has broken every single agreement signed between your countries in the past 30 years. What's the point of negotiating with a partner whose word is worthless and who will 100% break any negotiated agreement? Still, negotiating with Russia is legal, just not with Putin.

@user-wq8oh5ph2q

6 ай бұрын

You should not negotiate with terrorists, be it Hamas or Putin. They cannot be trusted.

@ClownCarCoup

6 ай бұрын

or just enforce the Bupapest agreement. Even other BRICS nations have called for sanctity of sovereign borders, along with the UN

@jhlfsc

6 ай бұрын

"Before" the war?? Lol I love how some few alleged leftists completly ignore the fact that of course Putin himself does NOT want to negotiate and by all accounts would be an absolute FOOL to "negotiate" before the 2024 US election.

Medea is the voice of wisdom and sanity! Thank you for all your piece promoting work!

@dannyv2468va2

6 ай бұрын

She is a stooge for Putin. She says nothing about the Russian atrocious murderers of Ukrainian people let alone the thousands of kidnaped children taken to Russia as hostages. She quotes the great work that South Africa and China? Wow what a lot of pro Russian crap God Bless the Ukrainian people in their fight to stay free.

@KevinCovington5453

6 ай бұрын

"The voice of wisdom" huh? "Can Peace in Ukraine Be Achieved Without War?" that's! the voice of wisdom?!? APPARENTLY MRS WISEDOM DIDNT GET THE MEMO - THERES BEEN A WAR SINCE FEBRUARY 24TH 2022 WILL SOMEBODY BREAK THE NEWS TO HER!

@maryanchabursky9148

6 ай бұрын

Voice of ruSSian propaganda

Its all about the benefit of the military industrial complex.

Let us know when Putin is ready to come to the table. Waiting

They can get spending for Ukraine now without a debate or block from the Republicans because we have to send aid to Israel without a debate.

@tobyclear1651

6 ай бұрын

Some clues: Mossad/Epstein/Rothschild honey traps = old boys in power who were blackmailed.

@curtrice6060

6 ай бұрын

We need to spend on both. Will Putin give Ukraine their land back ? 💩😣🤓 will Hamas stop invading ? 😞☹️😩😏

@northstarmind1049

6 ай бұрын

​​To ​@@curtrice6060: Why is it *our* problem to give two states -- one a *corrupt* state (before the war ranked the most corrupt state in Europe) with integral Nazi/ white-supremacist elements, & the other an ideologically *racist* apartheid colonial state -- that both oppress another ethnic group -- *BILLIONS* & *BILLIONS* OF DOLLARS of our taxpayer money -- when we have so many dire needs at home!?

@antmagor

6 ай бұрын

@@curtrice6060 Will Israel give the Palestinians back the West Bank. And are they ever going to stop using Hamas to downplay the fact that they’ve killed more Palestinians then Hamas has killed Israelis? You can look it up, since 2008 there have been 6407 Palestinians deaths, versus Israel’s 308.

I support Medea and say No to both Ukraine war and Israel war. Saying No to weapons will also save Youth of US and school killings.

@Collageartist69

6 ай бұрын

That's not going to happen.

@tobyclear1651

6 ай бұрын

BhavanaShivu - you're right, but our misleaders apparently don't want to solve the problems!

The root of the problem is Putin has been a mediocre leader. Russia today has an economy the size of Texas. ( 1.5 Trillion in GDP ) 30 yrs ago people were predicting Russia today would be a 20 Trillion dollar economy and a leading world power. Putin has stated Ukraine is not a real country, it is part of Russia and he wants it back , period paragraph. Young Ukrainans who are the majority of the country want a Ukraine that is an independent nation, and a member of the EU. They want to join NATO for the same reason the former Warsaw Pact countries wanted to become members. The security and economy development that acompanies it. As long as he thinks he can win the war by holding out, hoping the West will tire of aiding Ukraine, he will continue the conflict. Ukraine has not been able to achieve any eye popping victories because they have almost no air power. To send in troops without air power is suicide. It is amazing they have been able to last this long with almost no air force.

@RRRR0707

6 ай бұрын

After the scoundrel Gorbachev and the alcoholic Yeltsin, Putin got a poor, ruined country. Corruption and banditry flourished. The country was ruled by oligarchs. Putin was able to pull the country out of this hole. Remind me, what is the national debt of the United States? And don't forget that the US is constantly stealing resources from other countries. What are your military bases doing in the Syrian oil fields now? Are they guarding peace in Asia?

@ruslankbr5243

6 ай бұрын

Just find Ivan Katchanovsky investigation about Maidan massacre and you understand much more than you do now

@RRRR0707

6 ай бұрын

@@ruslankbr5243 Адыгэ

@ruslankbr5243

6 ай бұрын

@@RRRR0707 exactly)

Considering how peace is the opposite of war, I guess the ONLY Ukraine can have peace IS without war.

@rebelmango2141

4 ай бұрын

Yeah except if they have ab aggressive neighbor

Western politicians oath of allegiance. Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you and your country can do for Israel and the military industrial complex 😢😢😢😢😢😢

Never thought I’d see the day Barabara Smith advocates for a weapons package.

@Who_Let_The_Dogs_Out_10-7

6 ай бұрын

Her idea of "negotiations" is inventing new names to call Putin. Can't watch her anymore.

@user-ur1uy7dz7e

6 ай бұрын

The left has her

@user-ur1uy7dz7e

6 ай бұрын

She’s disgusting and uneducated on the subject which makes me question the platform as a whole.

@Who_Let_The_Dogs_Out_10-7

6 ай бұрын

@@user-ur1uy7dz7e So Medea is Right Wing, now? I'm old; things have changed.

@maryanchabursky9148

6 ай бұрын

Based position

I trust Putin’s sanity much more than rankings of Ms. Smith!

@kunik61

6 ай бұрын

STOP FUCKING SUPPORT RUSSIAN WAR AGAINST MY HOMELAND.

@ruslankbr5243

6 ай бұрын

She totally ignores the truth which is Biden and his team pushed Ukraine into this conflict deliberately and without any mercy and regret.

@MissChele1025

6 ай бұрын

Likewise.. I trust Putin more than I trust anybody in United States government, any activist, United States school history books, my momma , and my boyfriend. Lol

"Provoked does not mean Justified".

These two women both rule for being civil AF

What rock is Nuland hiding under these days. It’s a relief, however briefly, to not hear hervoice of war, destruction and hatred for Russia. She is a scourge on humanity!

It’s not a peaceful solution to Cede occupied lands to violent fascist occupiers. Long live Ukrainian and Palestinian resistance to occupation ! Right to self defense

OH NO.... THE WEAPONS COMPANIES.

How’s Medea’s ‘peace’ message being received in Mariupol ?

@alessandromorosin3251

6 ай бұрын

She’s way out of her league on this one. Listen to Ukrainians and stop advocating for ‘peace’ over their heads. She’s not getting her cue from leftist Ukrainians and dissident Russians

Barbra is not An African..Who killed Gaddafi? Who implemented coups in Africa? Who killed the Russian speakers in Ukraine? You're wrong Barbra 😮 I'm sure you don't know history 😢

@kenny6920

6 ай бұрын

Gaddafi isnt African, he was an Arab settler/colonizer. Berbers are native to Libya.

@moranmike36

6 ай бұрын

How dare you lie and falsely judge!

@frostflower5555

6 ай бұрын

She doesn't sound like she knows much, just repeating same media lies I hear. She reminds me of a repeat CNN.

Barabara Smith's argument, unfortuately, is childish, short-sighted and uncontextual.

Medea inarticulate beyond stop funding. Please present people who can manage the situation

See this youtube video, it is very informative. it was made by a US Palestinian journalist. In Australia, no one would accept this. It goes to explain the frustration - How Israeli Apartheid Destroyed My Hometown. There is a similar video on Aljazeera

@knowbuddee

6 ай бұрын

Aljazeera is doing a great job! So is RT!

Medea is a true progressive person. I feel indebted to her because she has been supportive of Rule of Law in Pakistan. Her position about Russian- Ukrainian conflict is quite rational and progressive.

@user-ur1uy7dz7e

6 ай бұрын

Please tell me sarcasm is at play

@maryanchabursky9148

6 ай бұрын

“Progressive” for putins aims.

Medea is correct

Oh boy. What a mess.

No one was able to show agreement for NATO not to spread on east, only talks. Watch what Gorbachev have said about it

Reading the list of wars the US and Russia been involved in, you could say "All you need is arms" because how do you otherwise fight all these wars. It's rather clear to me that it's the fight of empires to rule the world, it's like a forever war.

@ruslankbr5243

6 ай бұрын

But funniest thing is Russia under Putin tried to be incorporated in global West even helping USA in Afghanistan but USA accepted such behaviour as a weakness and Putin’s friend George Bush invited Ukraine into NATO. Now Putin knows well what kind of friendship West can accept only when you are under control like modern Ukraine.

@maryanchabursky9148

6 ай бұрын

ruSSia invaded Ukraine not the USA.

Thank you Juan. And thank you Medea. And thank you Barbara Smith for making the distinction between Israel and Ukraine. What a mess! I am glad to learn that Barbara Smith is a socialist (critical of neoliberalism and supportive of democratic socialism).

this is a fantastic nuanced style of reporting that I want more of. I had subscribed years ago, but it never shows in my home page. Hopefully my commenting on this channel raises it in the algorithm for me. Are there recommendations of similar educated progressive discussions in Canada?

@airhabairhab

6 ай бұрын

Sadly Canadian politics and discourse is mostly empty rhetoric and virtue signaling.

@bill4514

6 ай бұрын

He's conservative but jj mcolough has done some interesting stuff on Canadian politics

@bo2.4u6

6 ай бұрын

There U go.

Please don’t invite Barbara Smith back please!

Thank you for having Medea Benjamin.

A bit strange the arguments of the black lady, she does not seem to know much about this conflict. That is the only way she can have them.

Ladies in pink are my heroes. The the diplomatic way is only the right way at the current situation.

Ukraine! Stop Russia now . Israel is talking nukes. Talk about that

How come there's no actual Ukrainians on your program when you talk about Ukraine but always a bunch of Palestinians when you talk about Israel/Palestine?

@phithinker02

6 ай бұрын

DN had a Ukranian on just two weeks ago to talk about this issue.

Barbara Smith has totally embarrassed herself here. Why was she even asked to comment? As she mentioned, she has no expertise on the history of this issue. Was there anyone else Democracy Now could have invited who could have made a cogent argument for continued fighting? Or was there no cogent argument to be made?

@christopherwilson2341

6 ай бұрын

She said she is not an expert on Russia not history.

@Noodles1771

6 ай бұрын

Barbara is completely indoctrinated and incompetent to speak on Russia. Everything out of her mouth is boomer fear-mongering nonsense about Putin. She’s not a Marxist - she’s a shitlib.

@timtrewyn453

6 ай бұрын

If you were the president of a labor union, would you announce to your membership, and to the public, and to management that you are unilaterally waiving the right to strike before you start contract negotiations? If I were in that union, I would call for election of a new president on the spot. Ever negotiate? I have. Both sides at different times, labor and management. We got fair deals. Arming Ukraine puts pressure on Putin to come to the negotiating table. It's like being on strike. It's shoring up the picket line. Disarming Ukraine gives Putin a negotiating advantage unless Putin was to agree at the same time to stop arms shipments from his arms factories to his army in Ukraine. Medea undermines her call for negotiations by proposing the United States makes a unilateral concession, at Ukraine's expense. Medea displays her ignorance of the process she is calling for. It's really nice of her to want peace. I give her that.

@ocox8659

6 ай бұрын

@@christopherwilson2341obviously not an expert on Russia or Ukraine. Why is she even talking on a subject about which she has so little knowledge

@jamesodonnell3636

6 ай бұрын

Post-2016 DemNow! spreads Russiagate lies and supports the neocon agenda and the administration that Bush/Cheney neocons control. Katie Halper has done a much better job of providing nuanced Ukrainian perspectives that don't just regurgitate U.S. State Department propaganda (all Barbara Smith has to offer, which is why she was invited).

Medea Benjamin, is it money or no war while grinning. She is bad news

Ukraine is independent country, and ONLY people of Ukraine will decide whether they want to be in NATO or not. Why Russian must have a word in it? How would US feel if they would wait for permission from some other country to be a part of some organization?

@RRRR0707

6 ай бұрын

Will you allow all independent countries around the United States to enter into a military alliance with Russia? and deploy Russian nuclear weapons in Cuba, Mexico, Canada and other countries around the United States? Or is it something else? Of course, you think that the United States is deploying military bases and cruise nuclear missiles around Russia's borders solely for peaceful reasons

@tsun9845

6 ай бұрын

Ukraine don't make any decisions.

@maryanchabursky9148

6 ай бұрын

@@RRRR0707yes, do you not? The countries around the USA don’t join such alliances since the USA (currently) is not posing an existential threat to them.

@maryanchabursky9148

6 ай бұрын

@@tsun9845oh yes we do

@RRRR0707

6 ай бұрын

@@maryanchabursky9148 Does the United States pose an existential threat to neighboring countries? Tell the citizens of Venezuela about this. They are under blockade, the country's money is blocked. In 2020, the US President's national security adviser John Bolton openly stated that the US would not allow the deployment of a Russian or Chinese military base there. up to the use of armed forces. But, on the other hand, the United States wanted to place its naval base in Crimea. An American nuclear missile flies from the Sea of Azov to Moscow in a minute and a half. And, of course, we don't like it. Hello from Russia.

BARBRA, you know more about Russia better than Amy Goofball

@ocox8659

6 ай бұрын

She knows Jack squat - just repeating neocon dribble.

What is the end goal of "supporting Ukraine?" No one seems to be able to answer that.

@2Bclear2u

6 ай бұрын

It's 1) more money in the accounts of the Rothschild empire's loyal witting (and unwitting) servants 2) progress in their main objective of endless wars - achieved for the time being at least & 3) keeping the people divided & in the dark.

@brothermine2292

6 ай бұрын

At least two goals: Ukraine democratic self-determination, and to convince Putin that Russian military aggression is not a winning strategy.

@harrierr628

6 ай бұрын

Funding them for 100 years. 😂

@kenny6920

6 ай бұрын

What is the end goal of "Free Palestine"??

@mobilusinmobili8321

6 ай бұрын

​@@brothermine2292 Weird how the Far Left oddly ignores or outright supports Islamofascism.

Madea represents me. We should be working for peace.

@maryanchabursky9148

6 ай бұрын

Ok, how?

@luciusporleifr8691

2 күн бұрын

Explain it how then?

It's amazing how clueless this woman, Barbara Smith, is, practically ignorant, and how she boldly tries to support the line of the war mongers, which is in the least interest of Ukrainians.

An end to military support for Ukraine would not lead to a diplomatic solution; it would lead to Ukraine's unconditional surrender. So I think Ms. Benjamin is insincere when she calls for both an end to military aid and a diplomatic solution.

@knowbuddee

6 ай бұрын

So you want to fight til the last Ukrainian is dead eh? Didja know the average fighters age is 40 & that they're forcing people up to around 65 to go to the front! Cannon fodder --- forced into a meatgrinder!

@brothermine2292

6 ай бұрын

@@knowbuddee : You misinterpret my words, little troll. Whose witless talking point are you parroting, to think Ukrainians would accept that much death?

@-xirx-

6 ай бұрын

​@@knowbuddeesource: trust me comrade

@timtrewyn453

6 ай бұрын

@@knowbuddee No. I think we force multiply the UAF with more advanced arms until Putin sees it is time cut a deal so he can show the Siloviki he still won something for the effort. The faster he sees the math is not going his way, the faster this is over.

@amirfamhi6248

6 ай бұрын

she’s naive. notice how she wants Russia andUS to de use the fate of Ukrainians this is imperialism

No All These Wars Is Going to Increase

@EziekKiel

6 ай бұрын

So are you suggesting that we just stand by and let Russia slaughter every single man, woman, and child of Ukraine? Is that what you want? Is that your idea of peace? Come on now! We must continue to do something. I hate war just as much as the next person. But Ukraine didn't ask for this! This is ALL Russia! They initiated this, and they won't stop. So we must help Ukraine stop them! Please don't be a heartless fool! You want me to show ya the mangled body of a little 8 year old girl whose life was snuffed out by a Russian artillery shell? It's a real image... Will that provide you with some sympathy and humanity? Imagine if that was YOUR little child! But it's not. So ya just don't care, eh? This is what's happening. It's reality. You can cover your eyes and ears all you like, but it doesn't change the situation. Ukrainians are being murdered en mass and nobody cares anymore. The video of that poor child will stick with me forever! All children are mother earth's children. And we have a responsibility to help save them. No matter how inconvenient it is! Christ almighty...

Thank you Barbara Smith for saying that Ukraine and Palestine are in parallel situations!!!

@-xirx-

6 ай бұрын

They absolutely are not. Ukraine is not a terrorist group, it is a sovereign country, an ally, that was unilaterally invaded.

@ocox8659

6 ай бұрын

Naw…only in the neocons and neoliberals dreams

I would suggest that everyone who is interested in seeing a good outcome for Ukraine make a point of listening everyday to president zelinski's broadcast message do the people of Ukraine and to understand the unique and remarkable character of this man who has dedicated his life to the freedom of this country

I love how you dont have actual Ukranians on this but you do have Palestinians on when talking about Gaza. Very interesting.

@hhheee3939

6 ай бұрын

Because its very hard not to find a gnoughtsee in ukraine.

@kenny6920

6 ай бұрын

​​@@hhheee3939how many Ukranians do you know? Thats what i thought

@ninelegyak

6 ай бұрын

Actually your "observation" is empty, because they routinely interview Ukrainians. Just not for this particular debate.

@kenny6920

6 ай бұрын

@@ninelegyak i said "on this" as in "on this video debate." But really, they havent had Ukranians on here much at all.

These women are willing to bargain away Ukrainian territory I wonder how much of the United States territory they would be willing to give up if the shoe was on the other foot. Just a thought

@ValFlr

6 ай бұрын

Ukraine could have kept their territories, all they had to do is give language rights & autonomy to the Donbas folk. They had 8 years to decide, they opted for persecution, shelling & even destroying their curches. They made their bed, now they'll sleep in it. Just a thought.

@johnbanach3875

6 ай бұрын

@@ValFlr They got their marching orders from the USA.

@2Bclear2u

6 ай бұрын

@@ValFlr Thank you

@kenny6920

6 ай бұрын

@@ValFlr "Gaza could have prevented war, all they had to do was let Israelis take more land. Now they chose to shell and murder Israel. They made their bed." Thats how you sound right now

@harrierr628

6 ай бұрын

Ukriane poke Russia by killing the Donbas people, broke the Minsk agreement and trying to attack Crimea. This is 100% Ukraine fault. Also why bring other countries. The world doesn't own Ukraine nothing.

Medea Benjamin won the debate!

@angela1984a

6 ай бұрын

No. Medea is Dictator hugger.

It is not how many times you fail, it is how many times you try

The only way war will end is when each one of us declares "No, I will not kill." I did that during Vietnam. It will not happen from the top down. Just say no. No more killing.

We are living in some fantasy world if we think we can continue putting our resources into ongoing military operations, and that we can just ignore the meta crisis of violence, climate chaos, debt colonialism and ecological collapse that are often the subject of this show. Diplomacy and collaboration, even if with those we despise, are the only way forward to avert extinction.

@thelivinggoddess6

6 ай бұрын

Economic cooperation between Ukraine and Russia existed in the past and was thwarted. They are not inherently hostile toward each other, as the corporate media have recently made them out to be. Reuters reported in Dec 2013's Special Report: Why Ukraine spurned the EU and embraced Russia: "Less than three months later Yanukovich spurned the EU, embraced Russian President Vladimir Putin and struck a deal on December 17 for a bailout of his country. Russia will invest $15 billion in Ukraine’s government debt and reduce by about a third the price that Naftogaz, Ukraine’s national energy company, pays for Russian gas."

@fabianelsen3716

6 ай бұрын

​@@thelivinggoddess6To portray yanukovichs decision as a good development was wrong back then and is wrong now. He simply chose not to risk angering russia and taking their money instead. Obviously this would not have benefited ukraine since civil liberties in russia are a lot worse than in europe and the younger generations of ukrainians were absolutely outraged about this betrayel.

@karasukafka6918

6 ай бұрын

Someone who come from next door of Ukraine, I despise the notion that US should trade off people's life for the "greater good", where it seems Ukrainians themselves have no saying if they want to be eradicated or not.

@karasukafka6918

6 ай бұрын

@@thelivinggoddess6 The economic "co-operation" between Russia and Ukraine looked like somewhat this: when in early 2000s Ukraine selected someone Russia did not like GazProm stopped sending gas (I lived Hungary at the time and we were hit by that). And this was among the many coercion in the last three decades.

@timmoore3188

6 ай бұрын

@@karasukafka6918 all what you and others say here has truth in it. Personally, I have seen the US get involved in one military conflict after another, and I haven't seen any that have led to anything but the decline of those countries. I don't have the answers, but I would think all those bureaucrats that have these PhDs from ivy league colleges would see this also. Leaves me with the impression they do, and they want to maintain the world in its present state of conflict-- or they would try something new.

More debates on this issue is needed here. Next time how about inviting Jeffrey Sachs on.

@jamesodonnell3636

6 ай бұрын

Commendable, but since 2016, DemNow! doesn't invite many guests who question neocon propaganda. This channel promotes Russiagate and the neocon agenda in Syria and Ukraine.

We love You Democrasy Now team and Medea. Thank You. You all give us to hope to live in this world.

what an odd pair to be debating this topic. you know there are journalists and academics who specialize in this, right?

All I ask US Voters, Taxpayers and Consumers; Will you still continue to support what you yourself voted for if the Person having to pay for it turns out to be you?!

@EziekKiel

6 ай бұрын

As a taxpayer I am waaay more than happy to have some of my money go towards the freedom of an entire group of people. I could not possibly be THAT greedy! SLAVA UKRAINI!!!!

@robynpalumbo9779

6 ай бұрын

I'm already paying for it. And that doesn't bother me one bit. We promised to protect them if they surrendered their nukes. What a sad "debate".

@bonitaroache73

6 ай бұрын

How to be a Political Success; Promise Everything and deliver Nothing...I'm happy and relieved that I never made that Promise, Too Bad!

@Reallife3D4K

6 ай бұрын

We didn’t vote for this.. they need to set up a go fund me if they want people to donate .. if yu need the United states to help .. set up military bases in the region and yu need to pay us !

@YoungTang

6 ай бұрын

@@EziekKiel maybe you should watch that Zelensky's informercial wanting to sell Ukraine to Black Rock, JP Morgan etc, does he really need your money you fool? Did you care as much more than 9 years ago when Dombass were getting bombed on a daily basis? How about do you care if the Chinese put up 200 military bases at Mexican and Canadian border? Its only defending freedom when it comes to the American deepstate narrative approved the mainstream media. Its okay for Ukreaine to bomb the shit out of their separtists, but China just want to claim back Taiwan, which is also a separatist government that is not even recognized by the UN, oh you also want to give them billions too lol your own logic will have a mental breakdown because it cannot stay consistent.

Too bad the USA has no money left to solve our OWN PROBLEMS!

@tobyclear1651

6 ай бұрын

Maybe they intentionally avoid solving the problems to keep the people upset, divided & oblivious to the huge crimes taking place, such as Trillions being poured into a massive $hitzhole that corrupt politicians call "defense". Too few realize that our authorities intentionally avoid diplomacy, spread bs lies about other nations, & poke many in the eye (agitate) - to keep "enemies" - needed to justify the madness.

@johnbanach3875

6 ай бұрын

It's all going to defense contractors.

@YoungTang

6 ай бұрын

Dont worry, the US will always have more money for the military industrial complex that creates more wars and turmoil around the world. How lucky the world is to have such role model... sigh

@Collageartist69

6 ай бұрын

Bs

Ms. Smith no offense but you can not do this anymore... this is like the so called leaders in Africa trying to mislead for their own gain. You are not objective

The world needs to institute an International Withdrawal Treaty. The Israelis should withdraw from Palestine. The Russians should withdraw from Ukraine, Georgia, and Moldova. The Moroccans should withdraw from Western Sahara. The Chinese should withdraw from East Turkistan and Tibet. The Turks should withdraw from Cyprus. The US should withdraw from Hawai'i and Puerto Rico. Iraq should withdraw from Kurdistan. All occupied peoples are entitled to self determination.

Israel does not need any funding. They are occupiers and have a military capable of supporting themselves. Conversely while I agree we need to engage in de-escalation of the Russian invasion of Ukraine, until we can get successful talks, I believe Ukraine should continue to receive global support and the weapons they need to defend and protect their territorial lands.

@louispeddiltton47

6 ай бұрын

Palestine and arabs are the occupiers. Look at history fool.

@tsun9845

6 ай бұрын

@christoferwilson2341 Sure, ukrainians will protect ukrainian territories for jews till last ukrainian.

Bernie has abandoned you Code Pink

Those without swords can still die upon them.

Negotiations. Save lives

Medea is great. The other guest at least admits not knowing anything about Russian history, but why interview her then??

Definitely feeling more aligned with Barbara here. There's no negotiating with ppl like Putin, same with Netanyahu, they are set in their imperialist goals...

@ChaChaHaHa999-ry6wj

6 ай бұрын

Popular views & MSM talking points should be questioned.

@ClownCarCoup

6 ай бұрын

that’s not a popular view on this channel, but it’s true

@PaulDale-og1lk

6 ай бұрын

Medea is an aging hippie and delusional.

@mobilusinmobili8321

6 ай бұрын

Lolol Putin and Kim Jung support Palestine. Leftists hiding behind words like "oppression" whilst supporting Islamofascism.

@maryanchabursky9148

6 ай бұрын

@@ChaChaHaHa999-ry6wjhow about the truth Ukrainians are telling you. Or are we held to a different standard than Palestinians because we are being invaded by a country that also opposes the US?

While everyone sees ukraine is a nightmare it's a dream for palestenian theat thier occupation be acknoleged and be supported to fight back.

Yes.

The JFK quote was great; reminding us that the option of humiliating defeat or nuclear war is not the one we should be offering to Putin. To be clear, the U.S is not Ukraine and it is odd that Americans and the West see it this surrogate, autocratic military run state that is supposed to represent the final stand for 'freedom'. The price for so called freedom seems to rely pretty heavily on 100 billion dollar weapons contracts to support genocidal policies of Apartheid and war and deciding which nation states are under U.S imperial control. The boogeyman that China/Russia represent to Smith and others is more a reflection of trauma induced blindness rather than clear eyed rationalism that can negotiate peace under terms that are not defined exclusively by Western powers.. That is not negotiation. That's just your team winning.... Perhaps the war-mongers don't want to hear this but.....grow up, dear god. The world is burning and we are supposed to pretend that we the Avengers and Captain America is here to save the day????

@northstarmind1049

6 ай бұрын

To @freeyourmindyourasswillfollow: *EXCELLENT* comment post.

@mmedved5567

6 ай бұрын

Seldom have I read such a pile of feces in a comment. Perhaps only in comments by russki orc trolls. Suffice to say, every person who is or will be killed or wounded in Ukraine, Israel and Gaza would be fine today if the subhuman maggots in Russia, Islamic countries and elsewhere had not perpetrated and supported the depraved invasions of Ukraine and Israel. Gaza is about to see hell on earth.

@kyleprather7228

6 ай бұрын

Well in this case CLEARLY Russia is the boogeyman. This was clearly an illegal war, and though negotiations should be taking place soon, Ukraine HAS to attempt to gain as much back before sitting at the table. As of now theyll lose the Sputhern half of their nation. Theyll be land locked and even more destitute and in need of aid than ever. Biden HOPEFULLY is making it clear however to Zelensky that we cannot support him forever and that this fighting season has to be his last chance at regaining lost territory. However the mood of this channel and of your post reeks of naivety to think that a negotiated peace now will not lead to more war later, and will be seen as a green light that the West can be outlast. This seems to mean MORE war not LESS

@fabianelsen3716

6 ай бұрын

One sure fire way to increase the likelihood of further nuclear escalation is to allow anyone who has nukes to bully their smaller neighbours into compliance. If russia gets away with this. every nuclear armed regime will start to threaten nuclear war in order to violently expand their territories and there will be a nuclear arms race the likes of which we have never seen before.

@larynOneka8080

6 ай бұрын

I'm tired of U.S. tax payer dollars being spent on this. Europe needs to pay for this. The U.S. is in a cost of living crisis for millions of people but they're giving away billions of dollars for something that has nothing to do with us.

Yes, if Putin gives all the territory including Crimea back.

@0MVR_0

6 ай бұрын

that would give free range for the paramilitary groups to eliminate the separatist Russian minority

@timtrewyn453

6 ай бұрын

@@0MVR_0 No, the separatists would have the opportunity to migrate to Russia. Plenty of room. Not far away at all.

@0MVR_0

6 ай бұрын

@@timtrewyn453 seems better to just redraw the map than require action that fit's the United Nation's definition for genocide.

@frostflower5555

6 ай бұрын

But the people want to be Russian. Is that a crime to separate? It's ok for other places in the world and we call those people freedom fighters and call for democracy, but when it comes to Russian people wanting freedom on their own historical lands, they are called rebels and against democracy?

@kunik61

6 ай бұрын

​@@frostflower5555STOP WISH UKRAINE TO DISAPPEAR!!!!!

32:54, which country?

CODE PINK are silly hippies

the eyes in barbara eyes when she talks and her body language says it all.

Weak leader + confusion + division = distruction + losses 😢 What now america ?

What does UK have to with with Ukraine? Barbra knows nothing?

@ocox8659

6 ай бұрын

The UK has been sick with Russophobia since the 1800s

Philosophy Trending 2 Trending 2 When random acts of kindness are trending through the land When kind becomes the magic word And the thing we do is lend a hand We won’t worship a bird of prey, but one of peace and love When kindness is trending, instead of snuggies and skittles Everyone will have homes No one will be starving for vittles There will be full bellies at dinner tables instead of bombs If our minds move in the direction of our most dominant thought Peace, love and kindness is, perhaps what we ought Steering away from bread and circuses Rather to help the needy with health and human services Brothers and sisters we are all one Separation is painful from the real and the unicorn And it is surely not as much fun As to live in a democracy, not in need of agrarian reform The trend today it’s for the rich not to share Poor people are not vulgar we need to learn to care Paul Teich. “The Poet”. 2023

I love the people who trusted Bernie's judgement on literally everything who think he's suddenly lost his mind about Ukraine. The effectiveness of Russian propaganda is staggering!

@kenny6920

6 ай бұрын

Thats because many Western socialists are under the impression that Russia is somehow socialist adjacent.

@ArleeStarr

6 ай бұрын

In the past Bernie has voted in the Senate against some U.S. wars of aggression. Even so, he has always voted to fund them after the fact.

@jhlfsc

6 ай бұрын

@@ArleeStarr It's the other parts of the bill that he voted for. They never put it into a single bill issue.

The difference in how Democracy Now reports on Israel from how it reports on Ukraine is very very strange and interesting.

@2Bclear2u

6 ай бұрын

Yup... apparently Amy like countless millions of really good people partook of the Ukraine disinformation kool aid - which was everywhere -stronger than ever & started sharing it. But she's had sympathy for the people of Palestine for a long time!

@user-yp3us7xc3p

6 ай бұрын

How so

@queenredspecial

6 ай бұрын

@@user-yp3us7xc3p It's a bit too much to summarize, but they are pro-war and spout quite a lot of propaganda when it comes to Ukraine, while being quite objective and peace-driven on Israel. The words they use too are very telling. Ukraine was "unprovoked," which is a Pentagon talking point -- Israel is "retaliatory." It's just interesting. Stay tuned.

@IKE5021

6 ай бұрын

Yes, please explain. The word "interesting" in this context is the most useless word in the English language.

@Swodie_Jeetin

6 ай бұрын

Seems to me like they advocate for the human rights of oppressed people over invading/occupying colonial powers pretty consistently, but I have no axe to grind so I can't really see what it is you're trying to imply

Yes. Easy: Dissolve NATO !!!

Seeing as how they're already at war, the obvious answer would be no. End of debate.

Medea, the solution will be that Putin will want to keep Crimea and Eastern Ukrainian land. There will be no more negotiations beyond that and it is crippling naiive to think otherwise. And to parrot "NATO expansion" as a reason as to why Putin invaded is a slap in the face to Ukranians who don't want a Putin puppet in power and want real democracy. Would you ask Gaza to surrender more land to Israel in order to support peace against a nuclear power?

@Collageartist69

6 ай бұрын

She thinks she knows everything.

@kenny6920

6 ай бұрын

@@Collageartist69 truly was a braindead take on her part, worthy of a spot on Russian TV

@knowbuddee

6 ай бұрын

Sad to see so many have been brainwashed with the big lies that say Putin Bad. NATO Good. Truth will set us free from ALL the big lies!

@ninelegyak

6 ай бұрын

You're assuming Ukraine can get those lands back. Medea is assuming, rightly I think, that there is no military solution -- the stalemate is pretty much set with any small any gains costing many lives. Short of NATO intervening, which risks a broader conflict, Ukraine is not likely getting those lands back. So what is the purpose of continuing the war? I think Medea is calling for very reasonable things like the US gov't informing the public what "victory" looks like, considering how central the US has been on crushing any peace talks.

@kenny6920

6 ай бұрын

@@ninelegyak and what would "peace" look like?

Unbelievable

the politicians will never er save the world

Lady from Albany is clueless and is cheering on the very thing she claims to be guarding against... wild stuff... lol

@johnbanach3875

6 ай бұрын

Yes, unfuckingbelievable!

Medea is so kind and so smart.

Peace can be achieved by Men stop killing men and women.. As a man,I am pleading and I asking all men of the world to please stop the fighting and killing our brothers.. I..

WHO said anything about Nuclear weapons

Barbara is right, there is a solid social democratic case for solidarity with the defence of Ukraine once you strip out the Stalinist nostalgia for 'Russian Interests' and peacenik useful idiocy which has plagued the western left for 100 years.

@ocox8659

6 ай бұрын

The current regime in Ukraine is full of Nazis

Hey McConnel, what about Gaza??

@tobyclear1651

6 ай бұрын

:The former head of Israel’s Mossad intelligence agency has said that Israel is enforcing an apartheid system against Palestinians in the occupied West Bank. Tamir Pardo, who was in charge of Mossad from 2011 to 2016, gave an interview to Associated Press on Wednesday in which he said the treatment of Palestinians is similar to the racial separation implemented in South Africa in a system that ended in the early 1990s. “There is an apartheid state here,” Pardo said in the interview. “In a territory where two people are judged under two legal systems, that is an apartheid state." Pardo also told the media that Israeli citizens are free to get into a car and drive wherever they choose, apart from the blockaded Gaza Strip, in comparison to Palestinians, who are forbidden from entering certain areas and have to pass heavily armed checkpoints. Reaffirming his remarks, he concluded that his statements were “not extreme” but rather “fact”. Israel: Former Mossad chief says his country is enforcing apartheid in the West Bank Middle East Eye 6 September 2023 middleeasteye dot net/news/israel-former-mossad-chief-enforcing-apartheid-occupied-west-bank

Up to 4 mins in the video - I really hope that that lady also stood with the people of Iraq, Libya, Sirya, etc. Or are we picking and choosing the oppressed??

I'm speechless..... blind politics

Can Peace in Ukraine be achieved without war? The simple answer is: Yes. In the moment Russian military stops shooting and returns to Russia. The tragic truth behind it is that the regime in Russia is led by a person who never built anything to the point where they understood that growth can be made by building what you want to see existing. The person leading Russia understands growth only in terms of taking, not in terms of making. It is the psychology of every autocratic person. That is why they are autocratic, because only autocratic rule can ensure that they can take what they believe they need. A person who has but experience in making and building by creativity, has also degrees of confidence to be able to do that without needing to strip others of what they have made and created. That applies in personal relationships between humans as in any relationship like nation to nation. Taking from others does at best only satisfy. It does not fulfill. Only creativity that builds something resulting in more value than it took to make it does result in fulfilment. And fulfillment sustains in a human, resulting in immaterial strength like confidence. Taking and the satisfaction from it does not last, does not sustain. Satisfaction fades, and another act of taking will likely be focused on. It does not bring fulfillment. It brings an addiction to taking things. Autocrats inevitably end being - or are from the start - Addicts who can not stop taking from others. Putin for example governs - by square miles - the largest Nation in the world. Compared to the potential of that nation he made nearly nothing of it. It could be blooming, people could appreciate it and other nations would like to partner with it. But that is not the case, the other nations see more freedom to build a future in partnering with the west of Europe. Etc. // Short: Putin and every autocrat in the world will not give you peace when you give them what they want. Autocratic people suffer the addiction of taking from others. They will come back next time with a new reason, wanting more. It will never end, like with ill narcissists. There is no option to saying No to them. And there is no option for people with constructive intentions on this planet - but saying No to autocrats, politically, and tragically also militarily if that is what the autocrats come along with next. The 'west' has also autocrat elements. We will not survive with those in the west, and neither with those beyond. Autocrats take, and only end when they can't take anything anymore - either because there is nothing there anymore with the 'resources' being dead - or because - early enough before that - you said No to them and stuck to it. Even militarily. Tragically there is no option, unless you don't want to live. -

@bloomtv3-thealtchannel368

6 ай бұрын

that's probably why some people say 'Don't trade territory for peace' (that'll only bring you more war by more autocrats) and 'In case you don't care about Ukraine - no worries, it's not for Ukraine, it's for you, because if this does not end in Ukraine, you/we will be next.'

@timtrewyn453

6 ай бұрын

Superb.