Honestly I think it’s more likely that Gigas will be popping up overseas than at North American parks. Especially China.

@coasterate2866

4 жыл бұрын

I think some European parks will add some gigas

@roxynano

4 жыл бұрын

Coasters Down Up Definitely! Probably Energylandia maybe the next park to get one if you ask me. They are coaster crazy! It doesn’t matter what it is they will get it! Also I think Alton Towers could get a great giga coaster!

@roxynano

4 жыл бұрын

Coasters Down Up However China is growing so fast with parks and coasters. Eventually they will get a giga soon.

@coasterate2866

4 жыл бұрын

Coastervania Reviews if Alton towers could very get a giga! A 300 foot deep tunnel would be awesome! They can’t build a over the tree line btw

@blitzn00dle50

4 жыл бұрын

Alton Towers giga 2069

Dorney isn't competing with Dollywood. Not even in the same area of the country.

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

Yes Dollywood was a bit of a stretch. Was just mentioning some of the big parks in the general area. Parks on the east side of the country are very close to each other with multiple parks trying to bring in the same crowds in some cases. That was the point I was trying to make.

@295g295

4 жыл бұрын

3:14 - Doney Park's competition is *not* Dollywood. Dollywood in Tennessee is far away.

@seanrenzi6481

4 жыл бұрын

CoasterFanatics I want kings dominion to get a gigs they need some more good coasters

@SteelRiderCarl

4 жыл бұрын

@@seanrenzi6481 KD already has one! Intimidator 305.

@baysidethrills3322

4 жыл бұрын

@@seanrenzi6481 they already have one, but i'd love for them to get a hyper!

Hey guys, I hope you all enjoyed. Please let me know what you think in the comments. Is Orion the last Giga? If not, which parks do you think will get one? I'm interested to hear what you guys have to say about it. Thank you and ride on!!!!

@Fury325Fan

4 жыл бұрын

BGT could use another B&M, and a giga coaster would make it better assuming it is not a fake giga. I'm putting a 2024 date on it.

@popcrnaj1273

4 жыл бұрын

Maybe one of the Busch Gardens or sea World parks might get one

I agree with most of what you say, but some of the criteria you list I don’t necessarily agree with. For example, you rule out parks because they have competition in their areas, whereas that could be a reason to rule them in - they feel they have to go big to compete. And also by process of elimination, you settle on Worlds of Fun in the CF chain, whereas they just don’t have a record of that kind of investment. I think in general, the era of gigas has largely passed for U.S. amusement chains, and even Orion barely qualifies. If I had to bet, I’d say we see no more gigas in the U.S. in the next twenty years. I hope I’m wrong. BUT if I had to pick one place, it might be Magic Mountain. They do have space issues, and yes SF are not spending much (especially if we’re heading into a recession), but SFMM is the chain’s flagship park, and they are in need of a new world-beater, perhaps for their twentieth.

@tylerkriesel8590

4 жыл бұрын

Why would we be heading into a recession? The economy is really strong right now and unemployment is at a record low

@StamfordBridge

4 жыл бұрын

Tyler Kriesel LOL. I can guess where you’re coming from. I get that notion from actual economists.

@tylerkriesel8590

4 жыл бұрын

@@StamfordBridge naaaaa, i gotta good feeling you WANT an economic recession because you dislike a "certain person". but so far the economy is doing good. And has no reason to go bad, other then people who suffer from TDS who want it to go bad.

@StamfordBridge

4 жыл бұрын

Tyler Kriesel And yep, you’re the type I thought you were. No one wants a recession, but I guess the ludicrous stereotype of someone who does helps you deal with reality. You should try stepping outside your bubble and experiencing the real world now and then. Start by reading and listening to actual economists - any of them, conservative or liberal, but make sure they’re real economists and not stoolie pundits for FauxNews.

@tylerkriesel8590

4 жыл бұрын

@@StamfordBridge yaaaaa you do. It'd make your political ideology look good. And that's a good indication for you to realize your the bad guy. I don't watch MSM, only tools watch MSNBC, fox or CNN. There's no indication of the economy going bad. Only far left radicals wanting it to happen, like bill Maher.

I agree with you Patrick. Cedar Fair and Six Flags are highly unlikely to build another traditional giga coaster.Sea World Entertainment might. In reality I don't think the numbers make sense for a park to build one as far as return on investment. I think the RMC T Rex is the future. Eventually someone will step up and build one and we"ll see how successful it is.

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

I sure hope so. I can't wait to see that happen.

@tylerkriesel8590

4 жыл бұрын

Well, Busch gardens Tampa get more visitors then any other amusement park in the USA (outside of Disney, Universal, and the Orlando SeaWorld parks) at 4.1 million a year. Cedar point only gets 3 million, and SF Magic mountain gets 3.3 million. So i honestly agree with Patrick on Busch gardens Tampa getting a giga. I mean, it's already getting a steel vengeance killer (maybe)

@coasterate2866

4 жыл бұрын

I’ve been seeing seaworld build up San Diego I could possibly see a giga there and Tampa

@robertpolk9910

4 жыл бұрын

@@tylerkriesel8590 Cedar Point draws 3.6 million visitors a year and is only open around 135 days a year. All the other parks you mention are open almost every day of the year. If a seasonal park like KI draws 3.5 million visitors a year and is open less than half the year and they STILL got a Giga, then other seasonal parks could still get one if their attendance was high enough. You would have to make a return on your investment of 30+ million dollars reasonably quick. Most parks don't already have a good enough line up to just add a Giga and expect an attendance boost of 10-20 percent to pay for their new coaster. Six flags are too cheap to spend 30 million for one park when they are spending millions at every park for small rides every year. For Cedar Fair, Knott's is the only park that has enough visitors to warrant a Giga, but they don't have the room to build one.

@tylerkriesel8590

4 жыл бұрын

@@robertpolk9910 whatever, 3.6 million. Point is, the park(s) who are most likely to get one are either one of the Busch gardens parks. Preferably the one in Tampa

This video should be called where will the next giga be built

Busch Gardens Williamsburg has already been approved for a 355 foot tall coaster for 2021.

@darrylcthemaster

4 жыл бұрын

That's what I'm saying

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

Yes they have, Howerever the big rumor is that it's a lunched giga like red force. It's not a lift hill which is what this video was all about.

@lanceflx63

4 жыл бұрын

CoasterFanatics , don’t know where you heard that but it’s not true. They would basically be building another Tophat coaster like Pantheon. That would make since or good business practice.

I want Busch gardens Tampa to get one after rmc guazi

@mikeypickett4468

4 жыл бұрын

Mark McCormick hahaha prolly not back to back coasters

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

I think they will be the next to build one but it will be a long time before that happens.

@Verminity

4 жыл бұрын

YESCCCC

@arctrooper6386

4 жыл бұрын

Gwazi*

@darrylellis5616

4 жыл бұрын

If that would happen they would be the first park to get coaster 3 year's straight that's absolutely on herd of but I am definitely not opposed to it.

Busch gardens Tampa is definitely the most likely to get one. BG Tampa get's more visitors (4.1 million) then Cedar point (3.2 million) and SF magic mountain (3.3 million) It'd be the tallest in the state Florida, and tallest in the south, beating Fury 325. It would be an icon of the Tampa bay area!!!

@patrickrichardson9183

4 жыл бұрын

it only gets more visitors because it’s open year round

@tylerkriesel8590

4 жыл бұрын

@@patrickrichardson9183 magic mountain is also opened year round, but Busch gardens Tampa still gets more visitors.

@Koasterking212

4 жыл бұрын

I could for sure see one going there.

@Koasterking212

4 жыл бұрын

@@tylerkriesel8590 Plus Sea World doesn't have an extremely small budget like Six Flags and isn't afraid to make large investments.

@tylerkriesel8590

4 жыл бұрын

@@Koasterking212 right. And honestly, i can see both Busch's gardens parks getting a giga. One gets an Intamin and one gets a B&M.

I don't remember six flags building something over 200 feet King da ka:AM I A JOKE TO YOU

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

They have, it's just been a long time since they've built anything over 200 feet.

@epicshrek2420

4 жыл бұрын

Oh

@FlyGuy2000

4 жыл бұрын

SFoT's Titan would like to have a word with you.

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

Titan was built in 2001. It's almost 20 years old now.

I think you did a great job on rating these parks.

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

I can't wait to ride Orion!!

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

Me too. I hope it surprises me.

@Koasterking212

4 жыл бұрын

Same. I'm sure it will be my favorite coaster at Kings Island along with The Beast and probably one of my favorite coasters overall. Despite what people say it's not the shortest giga. It's actually longer and faster than Intimidator 305.

If six flags changes it’s ways I’m gonna say magic mountain great adventure and great America will get gigas but for now definitely not gonna happen maybe mid to late 2020s

@EmeraldBayMovies

4 жыл бұрын

I can't imagine MM getting a giga unless the remove goliath. They have absolutely no room for a ride that large.

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

Maybe someday but for now it's a no go.

Cedar Point itself might get another giga before any other park does

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah I doubt that. I think they will go for 500 feet at some point.

@austinjames8854

4 жыл бұрын

I agree I think they'll get a B&M Giga to compliment MF in the next decade. Maybeeee even 500 ft.

Your intro music is great. Thanks for all the hard work and good information.

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much. Glad you enjoyed!

I’d love to see a giga coaster at Busch Gardens Tampa. That and RMC Gwazi would bring a lot of people to the park.

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

I couldn't agree more!

@tylerkriesel8590

4 жыл бұрын

It already gets more visitors then cedar point and SF magic mountain.

Great informative video!

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much. Glad you liked it!!!

New 2020 devil coaster at six flags great adventure :)

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, looks pretty coll actually.

Six flags has ONE coaster more than 299 ft: Kingda Ka. I rode it two days ago and its is without a doubt awesome, but it's clear that it was a simple way for Six Flags Great Adventure to get the world record with minimal investment. Edit: Also Superman Escape from Krypton, but it’s a shuttle, so not a giga

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

It was actually over 25 million. Very expensive investment at the time. They haven't made that kind of investment since then.

@triplej755

4 жыл бұрын

CoasterFanatics Oh heck I actually didn’t know that.

@grobble8954

4 жыл бұрын

SF went bankrupt b/c they spent irresponsibly, now they have a Capex formula which prevents then from even building a hyper.

@triplej755

4 жыл бұрын

To explain what I mean by “Minimal investment”, Cedar point built the first hyper, giga, and strata. All unbelievable at the time. Six Flags Great Adventure only built a strata for the world record, and would never waste money in that case on less than that, until it was completed. Edit: Fixed a typo

A lot of great points 👍🏼

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@Joypyf

4 жыл бұрын

CoasterFanatics I’ve missed watching your content!

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

I'll be posting again soon. thanks for your patience.

@Joypyf

4 жыл бұрын

CoasterFanatics 👍🏼Thanks for the great content!

I wouldn't count out BGW - there's some filings for a 2021 project which may indicate they're still considering something massive. BGWFans has some great stuff on what has been unearthed so far.

@rdbarne

4 жыл бұрын

Right it's like a waiver for 355 feet. I read that something was filed with the FAA recently and the coordinates for the highest point is somewhere near the Rhine River. That would be a crazy drop down into that ravine.

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

It sounds like they might be getting a launched giga like red force. This video was about a classic lift hill style giga. either way I hope they get one or the other.

@cleonituk

4 жыл бұрын

Not to mention, that same filing indicates a top height of over 400 feet.

@rdbarne

4 жыл бұрын

@@cleonituk right. I believe it's over 430 feet above sea level in total while its 355 feet above the ground.

I wouldn’t expect for Cedar Fair to push the giga (B&M models), since they’ve installed the only gigas in all of North America, Only two of which are intamin. The west coast parks appear to not be pushing for one as much as the single rail, of the newer types of coasters. I agree that six flags would be the least likely given they have yet to install even one from the ground up. Pretty much agree with you on the points made. The problem with the smaller CF parks is that the company hasn’t even done a new coaster install, besides a wooden coaster, or some lower height steel coaster. I would think that either of the Busch parks would be the next primed to do a new giga. Other than the Busch parks, it’s highly unlikely, we’d see any smaller parks make that kind of investment, other than perhaps Dollywood? Or SDC.

@Sabir_DelNorte

4 жыл бұрын

In fact, i suspect that B&M projects are slowing in the North America markets after the 2020-22 time frame. Since building gigas isn’t a main focus for theme parks as much as the hypers by contrast, i don’t see what else B&M could be developing that is a main need for a coaster based park. Not every park has a dive coaster but is there really a huge demand for new dive coasters in North American parks? The hyper craze appears to also be slowing as many parks, the bigger ones have or will have one in the coming year. Only other two, or three parks I can see wanting a hyper after 2020, but that begs the question as Patrick said, why spend that on a hyper, rather than going full giga? Doubtful six flags will introduce a giga since they have yet to do so at any of their more popular parks, so that leaves the small family owned three -holiday world?, SDC, and Dollywood? Out of them, I suspect Dollywood would be the first of the three to get a hyper, or jump right to a giga if they go with taller, faster coasters of the B&M/Intamin stock. Maybe they’ll do a single rail T-Rex to distance themselves completely from the other parks having a giga

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

I agree. I could easily see them doing a TREX. They are known for being the fist for several coasters. Wild Eagle and Lighting Rod for example. Also you can look at outlaw run and Time Traveler at SDC as well.

@Sabir_DelNorte

4 жыл бұрын

CoasterFanatics agreed!! I think it makes the most business sense to invest in a major giga / trex coaster to solidify the park as having a rounded coaster collection. Dollywood seems to be the most primed, but I would imagine the other two also have more land that is available to build a larger coaster structure. Each park already has iconic coasters, introducing the trex or some form of a giga would definitely be a next logical step in terms of a major attraction that isn’t a new shopping/dinning/family fun center of sorts.

Williamsburg’s would probably be the one

@davidcullipher8551

4 жыл бұрын

I hope so too

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

Sounds like a possible launch Giga coming in 2021 but not a classic lift hill style one.

@sergeantdetergent6342

4 жыл бұрын

CoasterFanatics considering they’re getting pantheon I’d say no way until 2023

As far as Holiday World goes, I think a hyper coaster would be a cool addition but the Voyage almost looks like a hyper coaster as you're driving by the park, even though it isn't. I'm not sure if they would do that but maybe down the road and knowing them, they would invest in a great coaster that would get a lot of attention since they're all about quality. However I think the most likely candidate for a new coaster there would be a GCI and I honestly can't think of a better addition for that park. I agree with what you said, Holiday World is a wooden coaster park and the idea of a more modern coaster design from GCI coming to that park in the future excites me! As far as a Giga, I agree with the 4 parks you picked out as likely candidates. I'm not sure the next time I'll get to Kings Island but I really hope Orion surprises me because the POVs don't get me as excited as I wish they did. The length of it is the biggest problem I have, it's too short. Like you said in your other video I don't like the name at all either, especially compared to the other coasters in their park. Yes they could have addressed the height controversy too but if it were a longer ride, I think most people would look past that. I'll wait until I ride it though to really see what it's like.

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah I wouldn't mind an RMC at holiday world as well. Yeah we will have to see how Orion does. I hope it surprises me.

Competition is a great reason for why a park should get a giga.

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

Yes but a lot of parks need way more than a Giga. A Giga isn't a cure all to bring people back to the park. You have to make other investments as well. Some parks are so far behind their competition that it don't make sense to invest so much at this point.

Havent watched the video yet, just want to say that people need to stop hating on orion. It would be nice if it was over 300 feet so there weren't arguments about whether it was a giga or not, but they paid the same price for orion as they did fury (30 mil). You can't expect them to pay that much more, since 30 million is already a lot.

@CoasterFanatics

3 жыл бұрын

I hope to finally ride it this summer to give you guys my full review!

You didn’t make it sound like a 20-year timeline, but 5. In 20 years, there’s gotta be at least a couple more US Gigas. No doubt.

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

It's certainly possible. Parks need to find the space and be willing to spend big bucks for one.

I agree with your outcome, except to say the #5 spot after the 4 you chose would be Holiday World. Great deduction!

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

I would love to see one there, Don't think it will happen though.

Busch garden Tampa should get a Gigia next to kumba

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

That would be sweet!

@joshuacastillo1803

4 жыл бұрын

CoasterFanatics it should be called panther strike

Cedar points probably going to be building ANOTHER giga

@NickyD

4 жыл бұрын

zero chance they have no room for another major coaster

@brandonclark887

4 жыл бұрын

Cedar Point is landlocked.

@brianbeduhn8138

4 жыл бұрын

They have plenty of land! They’re even adding four acres to the peninsula. Cedar Point will build what they want to build, without many removals.

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah they aren't getting another Giga, I suspect they will push to go over 500 feet at some point though.

@Koasterking212

4 жыл бұрын

I doubt it.

Great minds think alike,i said to myself after this huge RMC project,that Tampa next big coaster should be a giga,it would complete there line up for sure.

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

lol thanks, a giga there would be so sweet!

I think you could round out your list to 5 parks, it is safe to say that SWO could easily incorporate a giga into their lineup.

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah I'm on the fence with them because they have Mako. It would be awesome if they got one though.

@tykenstein

4 жыл бұрын

@@CoasterFanatics well them having Mako honestly just makes them more likely to get a giga IMO. Almost all of the world's giga coasters stand in the same park as a hyper coaster.

After a quick search on rcdb the last coaster Six Flags built over 200 feet tall was actually Kingda Ka in 2005 (Goliath at SFOG in 2006 was exactly 200 feet if you want to count that).

@NickyD

4 жыл бұрын

there such cheap bastards they really are

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

That's so sad compared to what the rest of the industry is building these days.

@2DamnSeddy

4 жыл бұрын

Im 100% sure Goliath would be taller if the park wasn’t sky-locked due to the nearby airport. Same goes for Acrophobia.

Also, I believe Hershey park has strict height limit restrictions by law, something with the county or area they're in. I'm 90% certain of that.

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah they have restrictions. They need approval before they build anything over 200 feet I believe.

You're right about a couple of them CGA has height restrictions and apparently has office buildings close by, that's why Goldstriker has the weird walls. Sea World SD is on city land and needs everything to get past the coastal commission. I was shocked they got the dive coaster and skyrocket 2 approved. Knotts is in a neighborhood but they do have Xcellerator so maybe but they dont have much room.

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah the California parks are tough to get approval for new attractions. Maybe magic mountain someday but I don't see a Giga coming to California anytime soon.

Liked this breakdown. I immediately thought Worlds of Fun. It really sucks that Six Flags doesn't seem interested in Giga's. I feel though...Great Adventure could get one, but years down the line. With the announcement of the Jersey Devil it's unlikely to be the next 5 years. I wouldn't rule out Magic Mountain though. Six flags really loves what RMC is bringing.

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

I agree. Six flags unfortunately can't afford one after their Bankruptcy years ago. Perhaps someday they change their business strategy and build something big.

They could make the Giga in florida taller than the tallest hill

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

I agree.

Kennywood actually isn't landlocked since they own the abandoned strip mall accross the street (ie they could expand into the parking lot and have more parking accross the street), a lot of the surrounding houses, and the hill behind Steel Curtain. They could remove Black Widdow for the station, have it go over Exterminator, and utilise the property where those houses currently are for most of it. It would likely turn around in the parking lot which would mean an exciting return trip being that it would be downhill like Voyage. I don't think it's likely to happen but I wouldn't rule it out. And Chance Morgan still does hypers and gigas, that's from their website.

@CoasterFanatics

3 жыл бұрын

that's a good point. Like you said though I don't see it happening at kennywood.

Busch Gardens Williamsburg is HIGHLY rumoured to get a Giga in 2021. I can see some popping up in growing Cedar Fair parks. If Hershey can push their height limit in the back of the park, I could see them getting one in a decade or so. Anyway. BGW is very likely to get one. Sea World parks in general (past the BG parks) have potential. Good video, but to focused on Cedar Fair.

@grobble8954

4 жыл бұрын

All the Cedar Fair parks that have the financials to get the proper ROI on a giga have gigas. except Knotts, which hasn't enough space. If KB had space they would have gotten one long ago b/c they are the #2 park in EBIDTA and are far ahead of #3 by 50M/yr in the last public info revealed on EBIDTA

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Yeah I think BGW will get a launched giga like red force. This was about the classic lift hill Giga's. Yeah I focused on Cedar Fair mostly because they are the only company currently building these things.

@CoasterCupcake

4 жыл бұрын

@@CoasterFanatics The blueprints show to be a B&M. Why would they get a launch after Pantheon.

I think this is extremely possible

If Holiday World got a Giga, Hyper, and RMC Raven or Legend they would be arguably the best Amusement Park in the world. They already have one of the best Water Parks in the world an upgraded coaster lineup would take them over the top.

If Tampa built a giga they'd probably rival if not surpass Cedar Point

@pasta692

4 жыл бұрын

Definitely wouldn’t surpass. RMC Gwazi will rival SteVe, the giga would rival Millennium, but after that Valravn beats sheikra and Maverick beats cheetah hunt. Tampa has nothing to offer from there

@capitalthrills

4 жыл бұрын

@@pasta692 Montu is better than Raptor and Kumba is a great sitdown which Id put against Rougarou which meaning Kumba is better

@coasterate2866

4 жыл бұрын

@Pasta & @Capital Thrills Valravn vs shiekra? Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh too close

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah I agree. I think they are Giga or a Strata away from being right there with Cedar Point. All their coasters are quality even their Schwarzkopf. CP still has a few rough and lackluster coasters. Mostly old Arrows that in my opinion are just taking up space.

@pasta692

4 жыл бұрын

Capital Thrills That still leaves CP with TTD and gatekeeper at least over Tampa

I like to hope Dorney Park would get the GIGA but you are probably right with Worlds of Fun out of the CF chain. If Dorney does get a new coaster probably a GCI in 2021.

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

Yes more than likely a GCI is coming in 2021. I agree.

@robkrasinski6217

4 жыл бұрын

@@CoasterFanatics Dorney has a height restriction, because of the township they're in. They had to fight to get Steel Force built in 1997. The neighbors near the park complained after Cedar Fair bought the park because they knew the new owners were going to build new rides which would draw more people and create more noise like screams from tall rides and coasters. The park responded by making coasters like Talon quieter by filling it with sand.

I think we will see maybe 1 or 2 more in the US. But hyper coasters at least will still show up

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah I see a lot of hypers over gigas for sure.

@mattyorshin

4 жыл бұрын

@@CoasterFanatics kinds dominion needs a hyper

@michaezell4607

4 жыл бұрын

@@mattyorshin unfortunately they'll be getting nothing but waterpark and kiddie land expansions for the foreseeable future.

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

I'm not so sure. after Volcano got removed they might get some love in 2021 or 2022.

Valleyfair has a height limit of 275 feet due to the nearby Flying Cloud airport so unless they drop it into a 30 ft. deep tunnel there will be no giga at Valleyfair.

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

That sounds great, But that park floods so bad that it can't have a tunnel filling up with water like that. Also Cedar Fair simply won't make that kind of investment at valleyfair.

@williammanthey6763

4 жыл бұрын

@@CoasterFanatics you are correct!

@williammanthey6763

4 жыл бұрын

@@CoasterFanatics but they could put a tunnel in the protected area! Plus they can put track supports in flood plains just not a station. But Valleyfair needs so many other things right now, like a full circuit invert!

I think it's a solid assessment. The one other I'd throw in would be Magic Mountain...I think Viper's days are numbered and the entrance to that park with x2 and a giga would be impressive and would really round out their already epic line up.

@grobble8954

4 жыл бұрын

SF can not afford a giga, they can;t even afford a hyper.

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah as awesome as that would be, six flags just isn't spending that kind of money right now.

@themeparklunatic1996

4 жыл бұрын

mike colletta I been saying it for years they have that huge picnic pavilion at the front of the park that is below X2 they take out viper and they can do a giga and a new entrance if they really wanted to

Hey, Coaster Fanatics! I Can See Six Flags New England Get A Mack Launch Coaster! It Will Be A Clone Of Blue Fire And Will Be Great For The Park!

@coasternamegenerator5611

4 жыл бұрын

But where in the park?

@thrillverse

4 жыл бұрын

Not quite a clone of blue fire

Hey, Coaster Fanatics! An RMC Topper Track Wood Coaster Can Open At Dorney Park!

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

that would be cool

@mithramusic5909

4 жыл бұрын

I hope ground-up, because I actually enjoyed their old woodie

300 ft wood/hybrid coaster at Kings Island on the 50th anniversary of The Beast

Could you do a video on the next Hypercoaster parks?

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

Sure, I will keep that on in mind!

nahhhh. nope. perhaps not for a while, but it's past time SF jumps on the giga-wagon. I'd pay particular attention to Asia and the Middle-East. Big things yet to come. thank you Dick Kinzel, Cedar Point, Intamin, B&M, and all the crazy coaster fans. for us these are built for we frequent their lines. [my North American ranking] #1 MF & F325 tie. [i can't seem to put one over the other] #2 Orion [i'm looking at you shorty!] #3 Leviathan #4 I305

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah I could see them investing in something big overseas. We shall see what happens.

Hey, Coaster Fanatics! Kings Dominion Can Get A Mack Xtreme Spinning Coaster To Replace Dinosaurs Alive!

I sure hope it isn't the last I want another park that isn't a Cedar Fair property to get a Giga

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

I agree. me too!

@seanlewis1148

4 жыл бұрын

Coaster Dude The next closest to Cedar Fair that I personally can see to start building gigas would be Sea World.....possibly Orlando.

@Brandon-qd2lb

4 жыл бұрын

Sean Lewis lmao Orlando doesn’t have the room for it there sorry. Bgt is your only shot in Florida tbh

@Koasterking212

4 жыл бұрын

I don't think it will be.

I see either Busch gardens parks getting one in the next 20 years

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

I sure hope so.

Epic universe. Final answer.

@CoasterFanatics

3 жыл бұрын

I hope so!

Yo Patrick. There’s a typo in the description. It says “Stell Dragon”

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the tip! I'll change it when I get home from work today.

I want to see kings Island get or build a strata coaster with a launch and a lift hill to finish the climb but a 400 foot drop with back to back vertical loops or just 1 huge smooth inversion loop right after the first drop

@AirtimeAxolotl

Ай бұрын

I dont think thats gonna happen

Both BGW and Sea World San Diego are height-capped.

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

not so sure, The big rumor is that BGW was approved for something over 300 feet.

@PGnumbaONE

4 жыл бұрын

@@CoasterFanatics 355 feet

@grobble8954

4 жыл бұрын

BGW has a height waver already to go up to 355ft. . San Diego is capped thus why their Dive is so small.

@glomgold25

4 жыл бұрын

@@grobble8954 Thanks for clarifying :) It seems that applying for variances for height comes with the territory for them. If BGW did go for a GIGA which I definitely hope they do eventually, they could do something incredibly unique given the topography of that park.

I hope we get one in Tampa !!!!

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

It would be the perfect spot for one.

Hersheypark built a B&M hyper because it is graceful and will appeal to the general public. Even though coaster enthusiasts praise skyrush for it's intensity, the general public don't like skyrush as much since it is very intense. A B&M hyper would be less intense and more graceful so that will appeal to the general public.

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

I agree and I get that however look how popular all the Gigas are. everybody loves them. I think they could have done a giga and still got the same effect.

@coasterate2866

4 жыл бұрын

I’m pretty sure Hershey park has a height limit of 220

Production Theme Anarchy 1. Haven't heard that song in awhile ( your intro )

@brianhunberger7905

4 жыл бұрын

Yes Hershey park has height limits

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

lol yep, I heard it in a video game called test drive eve of destruction.

@existinginaspace8347

4 жыл бұрын

@@CoasterFanatics SAME that's where I found it too

Man I thought Michigan’s adventure would be getting a giga maybe they’ll get a strata would work good in the line up.

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

Cedar fair would never spend that kind of money there unfortunately.

@ultraviolentkingofthedeath4817

4 жыл бұрын

That park is one of the worst in the chain no way they are getting a giga and a strata will go to cedar point first

@x-tremefactory2542

4 жыл бұрын

ultraviolent king of the death r/woooosh

@popcrnaj1273

4 жыл бұрын

If you're joking, good one If you're serious, well then, you must be new here

SFMM - Giga T-Rex sometime in the early 2020's?

@RedKnight-fn6jr

4 жыл бұрын

Goliath has a drop of 255' - the park needs a Giga I think!

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

@@RedKnight-fn6jr they certainly can use one however six flags isn't currently making those types of investments. Maybe someday that will change.

@Koasterking212

4 жыл бұрын

Even that would be outside of Six Flags' extremely small budget.

@arkhamar7121

4 жыл бұрын

I believe it's highly a probability since RMC Raptors are already in the Six Flags chain.

Knott's could do an over-parking lot hyper but that's about it

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah that is possible. It would have such a strict no article policy too since they wouldn't want objects hitting people and cars in the lot, lol.

@seanlewis1148

4 жыл бұрын

LiamTheGandhiLlama LTGL They can take over the east parking lot by Soak City and build a giga there, while building a couple of multi-level story car garages on the north side of Knotts on La Palma.

Kentucky kingdom is sky locked. They actually have some space for the giga but they have the air port that make them skylocked

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

true that, I forgot to mention that part.

I agree with some of what you say but I don’t have a problem with having a giga 2 hours away. Like KD BGW. I mean CP and KI are practically doing the same thing. Lol

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah i see your point but KI and CP feed off each other with the crowds. KD and BGW will only pull crowds away from each other.

@mikaelj90

4 жыл бұрын

Yes. Especially when I305 is a low to to the ground Intamin. I wouldn't rule it out.

The other thing about Kentucky Kingdom is they have a height restriction due to a nearby airport, sort of left that bit out :P

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

That is also true you are correct.

Sea World San Antonio is building a GCI next year?

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

Yes they are. Supposedly it will be the tallest and fastest wood coaster in Texas.

@Koasterking212

4 жыл бұрын

@@CoasterFanatics Which isn't saying much since there are hardly any wooden coasters in Texas.

I agree with your end analysis that Busch gardens Tampa is the only most likely candidate for one final giga. But the reasoning for no giga at Knott's or CGA is far more down to gov interference than Cedar Fair reluctance. They've already poo pooed the proposed hyper Cedar Fair wanted to put in CGA so they're out not by choice but by government bureaucracy

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah it's California. That place is a mess right now.

@Brandon-qd2lb

4 жыл бұрын

Doesn’t cga have a height limit as well?

@craigsherwood3824

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly right, they need permission for 200+ and the counsel told them no Without it, they'd be a serious candidate for one and I honestly think Cedar Fair would want to sooner or later, but it's obviously not an option

@grobble8954

4 жыл бұрын

@Craif Sherwood Don't talk when you don't know what you're talking about. The city of Santa Clara did not have any effect on the CGA hyper, they had FAA clearance and permits with the city approved for a 210 ft coaster. It's pubic info as Santa Clara puts everything online. that's how it was known last september they were doing a water park revamp, the permits were online and they actually started working on foundation work last december. CF choose to delay the hyper, the government had noting to with it.

@christiphergedge5078

4 жыл бұрын

@@CoasterFanatics Yeah, the height limit is extremely strict for Seaworld San Diego - in fact, they're outright ineligible for a hyper due to their height restrictions of parts of the park having structures being no taller than 160 ft. at any point in the park (and must be pained a certain way over 80 ft.) and in some places in the park no higher than 30 ft. Their Sky Tower there although it is 300 ft. tall is grandfathered in because it's been there for so long. California though is messed up enough though that any park will probably be yanked from that list right away

Good video right here and you say the facts right! Been waiting for this in years! Think Kingda ka was the last coaster over 200 feet by six flags lol? BGT has the damn room near the back of the park. SEAS has great relation with every great manufacturer and will work with anyone still even intamin! So it could be from any of the three big manufacturers? They already have a hyper down the road and SEAS wants to add different types of B&Ms to the state and is investing a lot in this park now, if only they used the Serengeti plan they would have sooo much space to work with. I hope in the next 10 years they break fury’s records since its a huge tradition for the park and they would do it im sure. I want to say getting falcons fury was a test to see if they want a Giga in the future.

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much! I think a Giga would fit in so good there. I don;t know if they can bury Fury but they can certainly build a solid Giga here.

@Brandon-qd2lb

4 жыл бұрын

CoasterFanatics they may just try to edge it out but we’ll see oneday

I would keep your eye on Williamsburg

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

I think they will get a launch Giga like red force. Not a long list hill Giga though.

@argooose

4 жыл бұрын

CoasterFanatics I can dream of a traditional lift Giga though

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

lol I hope your dreams come true.

I could see great adventure upping there game and getting a giga.

@grobble8954

4 жыл бұрын

For the 100000000000000000000000th time SF can not afford a hyper, let alone a giga under their Capex formula.

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

They have the space, Unfortunately not the funds to back it up.

not sure why disney is even talked about....they stay under 200ft always to avoid having to put lights on top of anything that would ruin the skyline.

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

lol true that. If i didn't include them people would ask why not probably.

While I think a huge drop followed by several other larger than normal airtime hills will always have it's place, I think Steel Vengeance's dynamic post mcbr has turned the industries attention in a different direction. Alan Shilke has alluded to the possibility of a mid gauge single rail that could support trains with side-by-side seating and fill the gap between the raptor and t-rex track. Perhaps, Chance rides could design a coaster with giga heights pre-mcbr and a hyper gt-x layout post mcbr and at an affordable price. Also, I think Dorney's proximity to Great Adventure and Hershey Park would be a reason CF would want to start heavily investing in it.

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah we will have to see what happens. Dorney is so far behind both of those parks as far as their coaster collection goes. It would take a lot to pull crowds from both of those parks.

Busch gardens put in a 350 foot height wavier

@korseeth842

4 жыл бұрын

Char Cren Leaked plans show it to likely be a Red Force like coaster

@charcren8501

4 жыл бұрын

phobia dang it

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah it isn't a lift hill style giga unfortunately.

California's Great America may be landlocked, but one thing possibly in their favor in regards to space issues is that they removed their perimeter scenic railway. This leaves a mile long corridor running around the park's perimeter which could be utilized if needed. It has been infringed upon in a few locations (waterpark and Gold Striker) but a giga coaster has the luxury of going over things rather than through them. Not saying it's particularly likely, just that the space is available.

@Koasterking212

4 жыл бұрын

I could definitely see a giga going there some day.

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

That makes sense, however I believe that park has a height restriction as well.

Well I feel Michigan’s Adventure is the only park in the cedar fair list that I feel doesn’t have a coaster that’s over 200ft, do you guys think in the future that Michigan’s Adventure will get a big coaster?

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

I think they will get some coasters at some point but I wouldn't count on Cedar fair building a hyper there.

Smart on the red X in Six Flags. I feel they’ve gone super cheap on rides and don’t really build anything new and quality from other manufacturers all except from the same coaster from S&S. No B&M or Intamin or Vekoma. Six Flags is a major let down in my opinion. I could see Knott’s getting a giga. True they’re land locked but if you look at what’s around it land wise they could build something truly special and amazing.

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah they would have to expand outside the park to make it happen.

San Diego has regulations banning really tall roller coasters. They had to get special approval just to get a 150-foot coaster. So legally they can't build a hyper, let alone a giga at their Sea World or Six Flags San Diego.

@grobble8954

4 жыл бұрын

There is no Six Flags San Diego

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah there is no six flags San Diego. But yeah they had to paint their dive coaster sky blue to blend in with the sky. That was part of the agreement.

If S&S or RMC can get that high, then no.

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

They are certainly crazy enough to go that high, lol.

"can't remember the last time they built anything over 200 feet" no, Kingda Ka isnt at a six flags park o.o

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah and that was almost 15 years ago. What have they done since then?

@TS_Mind_Swept

4 жыл бұрын

@@CoasterFanatics clearly you *do* remember the last time they did one o.o I was just saying that to make a point

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

I hear you. It's all good.

I feel like Orion is gonna be the last Giga coaster in North America

@ArrowThrills

4 жыл бұрын

Don't froget a six flags magic mountain they have a lot of land to build a giga coaster

@seanlewis1148

4 жыл бұрын

Mystic Timbers Fanboy Won't happen. Magic Mountain is soon to be landlocked by a major housing development that will hinder expansion, and I highly doubt they'd remove one of their coasters, namely Viper, to put in one.

@ArrowThrills

4 жыл бұрын

@@seanlewis1148 well they have a that dry land where they could build a giga coaster

@Koasterking212

4 жыл бұрын

@@ArrowThrills Based on the current SIx Flags model, where they only buy the cheapest of the cheap and will absolutely never make any large investment, I don't ever see a giga coming to a Six Flags park. If it was the early to mid 2000s Six Flags, then I could see it happening. But not the Six Flags of today.

@ArrowThrills

4 жыл бұрын

@@Koasterking212 who knows mybe a six flags park could get a giga in next 20 years

Worlds of Fun would be ideal. There are no GIGA’s west of the Mississippi.

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

True that, Imagine the excitement of a Giga opening over there!

@coasterate2866

4 жыл бұрын

@CoasterFinatics I don’t think worlds of fun will be getting a giga. Kansas City isn’t very huge so a giga wont bring the crowds cedar fair is looking for. World of fun definitely has the money and space. But won’t get attendance to boost super high

@dougabel5198

4 жыл бұрын

I agree 1000%

@Koasterking212

4 жыл бұрын

I agree, there are no other parks with a giga in that area. A giga there would be a great investment. It would definitely boost their attendance and give people a big reason to go there just like it did for Carowinds.

@grobble8954

4 жыл бұрын

WOF doesn't produce even close to enough to justify a giga and to get the proper ROI. If WOF doubled or tripled their current financials they would still not be able to justify the investment and get the ROI

A giga coaster would be just the thing to put Holiday World in Indiana on the map. I doubt they could make that kind of investment but it would certainly bring in a whole new crowd if they did.

@johnd5931

4 жыл бұрын

The Voyage puts them on the map now.

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah it would definitely bring in the people built I think it's too expensive for them.

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

Voyage is amazing however a lot of people will not ride wood coasters since in general they are rough. It;s hard to put yourself on the map with a wood coaster.

What song is that intro music ?

Hey, Coaster Fanatics! I have some bad news for you! Kings Island has officially terminated Vortex on October 27th!

Why is it that Valleyfair will obviously not be getting a giga? Could you explain that some more?

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

Cedar fair just doesn't invest any kind of major money at the park. They will never spend 30 on a roller coaster there. Also I believe they have a height limit because of a near by airport.

@grobble8954

4 жыл бұрын

VF is one of the 3 bottom parks in the chain in revenue/EBIDTA. They don't make enough to produce the ROI on a giga It's the reason they don't get any big investments.

You knocked out knotts way too quickly, supposedly leviathan was meant for them but the project was shifted to wonderland which only proves that the park could definitely support or get a giga in the near future. The only way I see it possible though is if it either is really tall and built over already existing things either inside or maybe even outside the park OR built on the very outside skirt of the park in an out and back layout most similar to leviathan without much side to side action and mostly vertical action

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah as nice as it would be I just don't see it. They don't have much room at all for one of these coasters.

@grobble8954

4 жыл бұрын

Knotts was suppose to get a big a la Gatekeeper and it was the park that killed it b/c it would require altering Ghost town substantially. Corporate wanted to give it to them.

Great America actually couldn't build a giga even if they wanted too. They have an agreement with the nearby San Jose International Airport and I believe they cannot construct anything higher than 250 ft.

@14stockfan

4 жыл бұрын

They could take a page from Alton Towers and dig down instead of going up.

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

That would cost so much money to dig down that far. I don't see it happening.

@14stockfan

4 жыл бұрын

@@CoasterFanatics Yeah, I thought of that right after I posted.

@sworded

4 жыл бұрын

valleyfair has a 275 ft limit as well sadly

There's a few parks in the US that could get a giga next. Hersheypark, Kennywood, SeaWorld Orlando, and Cedar Point could be the first park to have two gigas because why not?

@CoasterFanatics

3 жыл бұрын

I can agree with SeaWorld and Hershey. Kennywood doesn't have the space and it just wouldn't make sense foe CP to build a second one. If anything CP will be going for 500 feet next.

Six Flags may build a giga for some of the parks over seas that they are currently building. I could see a hyper go to Holiday World in the near future but not a giga. Silver Dollar City has the land for a giga, and they already have a great lineup of rides to go with the giga. I feel like they could get a giga in around 7-8 years after some smaller coasters and expansions

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah I suppose six flags could spend that money overseas. we shall see. Yeah I think a Giga at SDC would be very cool.

And we're looking at 20 years here... I don't see why a lot of these parks won't change in that time.

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

It's certainly possible things can change. You are right,.

I agree with everything you said here. But you shocked me with the Hersheypark coaster news. I had no idea they were getting another coaster, especially a hyper. I live close to this park. I thought this park was landlocked. Anyways, I just want to say the only real chance of getting another giga-coaster, is it will have to be free standing. Such as building the world's largest, tallest and biggest in a city like Las Vegas. And I'm talking well over 500 feet, full circuit. None of that shuttle shit!

@grobble8954

4 жыл бұрын

Shocked by Hershey..LOL...You live close to the park? LOL X 100000 It's only been known for almost a year when they announced the new area,front gate, etc...

@talos6202

4 жыл бұрын

@@grobble8954 i live within driving distance. And unlike your life, I've been quite busy.

@grobble8954

4 жыл бұрын

@@talos6202 Right busy at your meneal job. Don't worry the min wage will go up. If you live as close to the park as you claim your just fucking oblivious. I know people that love in philly and it was in the news a dozen times in the last year and they aren't even in to parks. They just bother to watch news and inform themselves on the world. Oh wait that's something intelligent people do..stay informed on what's going on near them. That clearly excludes you.

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

I'm happy you found out about Hershey from this video. Yeah 500 feet would be so awesome!

Valley fair maybe could. Did you read about their stock portfolio and how much guest increases have been the past few years? Valley fair can be on cedar fair's radar by the next few years

@grobble8954

4 жыл бұрын

Valley Fair's EBIDTA is in the low to mid double digits, they aren't even close to having the financials to support a giga

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

potentially someday, I'd love to see Cedar Fair make some kind of investment in Valleyfair.

You got the video correct, but some parks have height limits of 200 feet. I would have to fact check each park, but when I put that in Google, it brings back the riding height limit. To me, the factors of what parks will get a huge ride are attendance. I run an attendance page with the top 32 parks in the USA here. I also compare SF to CF in terms of what rides they are getting. www.nogodforme.com/USA_Park_Coaster_Attendance_Results.htm BGW is the park that needs a huge ride, because they dropped out of the top 20 in 2016. When parks put in hypers, the ride is great, but it doesn't end up at the top in the GTA listing. An example of this is Mako at SWO. Great hyper, everyone says it's great, but it's not ranked high in the GTA (currently #17) because the people up north don't care about it. Since Fury325 is rated #1 in the GTA, you'd think that Cedar Fair would have put something similar in at KI, but they didn't (scratching my head). They left out the Treble Clef. The Universal and Disney parks would never do this, because their model is completely different. There's a great article about this from The Park DB web site here explaining it. www.theparkdb.com/blog/theme-park-signatures/ So to me, it all comes down to attendance, as I rank the parks from Marquee to Step Children, and there's height limits. Think about this, the #1 coaster in the GTA is located at Carowinds, and their last known attendance was 2,130,000 from 2005. They're still not in the top 20 from AECOM. So that massive investment in Fury325 and being #1 in all the land, didn't move this park like the HP lands did for Universal. To reach the top 20, they need 3,107,000 and they didn't do it. I think these parks need national advertising, the Disney moms have no idea the other parks exist.

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing! Very interesting stuff. You make a great point about advertising. I think last year was the first time that CP started running Ad's nation wide. Just like Disney's model like you mentioned.

I can see BGT building a yellow Giga after RMC Gwazi

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

Yellow would be cool!

I think if Six Flags got a Giga it would probably be Magic Mountain, they are to Six Flags what Cedar Point is to Cedar Fair, but like you said they haven't built anything big in a long time, I didn't know that. I noticed that Herschend Family Ent. Own's Dollywood, I always thought Dolly Parton owned it, does she own some of it? That was a cool video!

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

I agree with what you said about magic mountain. Yes, dollywood is owned in a partnership with Dolly and Herschend. Thank you very much!

Great America is going to get one

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

California or Illinois?

@tylerkriesel8590

4 жыл бұрын

@@CoasterFanatics don't matter, neither are lol

@coasterate2866

4 жыл бұрын

I think CGA could remove grizzly for the station and line for a giga that goes around the park then has a twister ending to fill in the rest of the space. Kinda seems stretched but my Valleyfair idea was also stretched. But I don’t see one at sfga

There is a certain park that has a giga already but I could see them adding a 2nd to be the 1st park with 2. And talking with employees and members of the maintenance team there they all seem to agree that they think its a good idea.

@CoasterFanatics

2 жыл бұрын

I highly doubt it but hey ya never know.

What does RMC mean i know you didn’t say it in video but what does it mean is it a company ?

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

Yes it stands for Rocky Mountain Construction. They are the makers of some of the more modern famous roller coasters such a steel Vengeance, lightning rod, Outlaw Run, etc. They make excellent roller coasters.

@arkhamar7121

4 жыл бұрын

Rocky Mountain Construction rockymtnconstruction.com

@g2rz

4 жыл бұрын

CoasterFanatics Thx 🙌🏼 ive heard from mnay roller coaster videos people saying roller coaster should be RMC ‘ed thx keep up great work and thx for quick response appreciate it 👍🏼

@CoasterFanatics

4 жыл бұрын

No prob, thanks for watching.