Why isnt the question can haas catch mercedes in the next 12 months?

@Silver-st2zq

20 күн бұрын

😆 mind you possibly 😂🤣

@princemay73

20 күн бұрын

It’s considered blasphemous on this channel

@DavidJohnson-dc8lu

20 күн бұрын

LOL dude you are so naughty lol

@HUMC5

20 күн бұрын

If Haas cheat as hard as Red Bull they can pull it off. FIA just needs to agree.

@tornado1598

20 күн бұрын

Haas couldn't catch a cold.

Can we rather ask when we get Crofty vs Rosberg again?

@johanfeenstra8778

20 күн бұрын

Crofty does not like good and honest answers and hates Rosberg. He is direct just like Max.

@JudgeYuri

20 күн бұрын

Rosberg > Crofty

@dancri4694

20 күн бұрын

+1, love Rosberg’s no bullshite approach…rather than trying to make excuses and sugar coat certain drivers struggles 👌

@ronintje7647

20 күн бұрын

@@JudgeYuri 2 rocks in my garden > Crofty

@07Corcaigh

20 күн бұрын

Gotta love real time fact checking on Croft by Nico😂

answer: no

@NicotineRosberg

20 күн бұрын

Thank you

@James-xk3ur

20 күн бұрын

Average Merc fan

@buildmotosykletist1987

20 күн бұрын

Answer is YES they can.

@ronbally2312

20 күн бұрын

I concur.

@juggadaaku4219

19 күн бұрын

@@buildmotosykletist1987But will they?

No. Saved you an hour.

@daarom3472

20 күн бұрын

exactly. Without SC Max pulls a 30-40s gap while managing tires and not pushing.

@bill4665

20 күн бұрын

Well not really. McLaren have their strongest line-up since 2020 and in 12 months it could be arguably better than the Sainz-Norris partnship in 2020. They have a new structure which (should these upgrades be as powerful as last years, bare in mind they were saying the same things about those upgrades as they are about these upgrades) is working tremendously for them. They also have the new windtunnel and other facilities, which they have made clear only produced around 15%-20% of the car that we've seen in these first 5 rounds. And then to top it off their resugence has been nothing short of spectacular. Yeah, they might not catch Red Bull. But the truth is, McLaren have gained significantly more ground than Red Bull have in the last 14-16 months. So if they keep that momentum, there's no reason they cant be up there.

@daarom3472

20 күн бұрын

​@@bill4665I mean a year ago they were backmarkers, sure they progressed more since then. They havent gotten any closer though since Silverstone 2023. Max was a pit stop ahead of Lando by lap 20.

@bill4665

20 күн бұрын

@@daarom3472 Well sure but we're also comparing Silverstone, a track the current McLaren car loves. To China, a track that doesnt necessarily suit the McLaren all that well. They worked it out this weekend, but that doesnt mean it was necessarily a track the car enjoys. It's also worth noting that McLaren have got closer infact. Qatar, Texas, Brazil, even Australia this year. McLaren were right there with Ferrari who were right there with Max at that stage. Its also worth identifying that the car used so far this year, isnt the car that was scheduled to arrive at Bahrain. The car that will race in Miami is the complete base 2024 contender, they had another issue with the car production line this winter. So while they need to sort they're production line issues out, we'll see how close they are in Miami. And then we can judge whether they've taken a step closer.

@heatseaker56789

20 күн бұрын

I wouldn’t call it a production line issue McLaren has become very careful about anything they say or do in terms of development performance etc there not a team to come out guns blazing, I think with McLaren it’s a case of they want to make sure what they have works first and once they understand it can start bringing upgrades where’s as traditionally with most teams they plan the upgrades well before they’ve even raced

I am with Crofty on this one, I could never understand the points system, how can it be right for a team to finish 11th in every race and be on equal standing at the end of the season with a team that finishes 20th in every race. Also if points go all the way to 20th then it gives the back marker teams more incentive to fight for every point.

Rosberg owned Crofty and his Merc love-in. The 'setup excuses' jib was immense

The chemistry in the first 30 seconds is already really good!

Even if they did catch, next year they will be again 12 months behind, Ferrari will be 15 month behind, Aston will be 18 months behind and Merc will be 4 years behind

i think Ron was right about engines 10 years ago, but not now. Things have moved on - the engines to the customer are identical, the available engine mappings are identical. There is a small advantage for the first season of a new development engine, but thats it.

@danesebruno

19 күн бұрын

Identical because no customer is threatening the engine supplier for the championship. As soon as that becomes the case you will see a different scenario

Of course not. To catch them you need to not only keep pace with RB’s development but out develop them to close the gap. How does a team do that when you can no longer throw money at it? The budget cap locks in advantage. The only way it will change is in 2026 when the formula changes again.

@samwilding1988

20 күн бұрын

That’s a really good point about the budget cap

@elbubson5600

20 күн бұрын

Advantage locked in for years?

@NoxioLukas

20 күн бұрын

The budget cap isnt there to change the order. Thats what the aero (windtunnel and cfd) restrictions are for. The reason for the budget cap is to tighten the grid up, which it defnetly achieved considering the entire grid withing 1-2sec was unthinkable before the budget cap. If other teams have 10-20% more time to test new parts and dont catch up, then they are simply worse at developing the car and dont "deserve" to catch up. This is an engineering formula, not a spec series.

@maximbeekenkamp3342

20 күн бұрын

no budget cap is still a budget cap tho... it's just however deep your pockets are, at least this way the top 5 teams are all spending the same

lets be brutally honest here... The FiA want more drivers to get more points because it makes them MORE MONEY! Each driver pays €2,100 for every point scored in addition to the €10,00+ for the F1 Drivers License. Your kidding yourself if you think it's for "THE FANS"!

@hishers251

19 күн бұрын

The FIA is always looking to suck the blood from F1. Yet scream about budget caps and keeping costs down, they need to start with their own greed.

@bjrnchrstn

19 күн бұрын

Depends. If the total amount of points stays the same but the distribution changes then the income will stay the same.

Redbull remains in charge this year

@bjrnchrstn

19 күн бұрын

And next year aswell probably.

Great podcast today boys! Cheers from Chicago!

I run a Xbox F1 league and we award points up to 10th place but also to anyone in the bottom 10 1 pt for finishing the race 10th is 2 pts so u would never score less than a bottom 10…in previous seasons we also awarded pts to top 10 but decided the disparity to the bottom 10 was too large. So I definitely think Crofty’s idea could and would work.

Awarding points down to 12th place makes sense, but only after an 11th team joins the grid.

The new sprint weekend schedule is much more logical

The Honda engine is upto 1/2 second a lap quicker than Mercedes and Renault. Mclaren benefit from having 2 quick drivers but Adrian Newey's aero touch is a tough nut to crack.

It’s not just the car, the real question is will anyone ever catch up to Max? I think even if Max had the slower car, he would still win.

@Reaz399

20 күн бұрын

Exactly. The RB was factually the slower car in 2021 on both average quali pace and race pace and despite losing 1 billion points due to bad luck/ Merc terrorism Max still won the championship. Not even Hamilton could remotely hang with Max over a season, Max is simply too good and consistent. Add to that Red Bull, who 100% are the best team this sport has ever seen operationally. As long as RB produce a competitive car Max will be the world champ at the end of the season, it‘s that simple really.

@johanfeenstra8778

20 күн бұрын

Put Max in a Ferrari and he wil win.

@illbeV.

20 күн бұрын

Please, there's precisely 0 chance Max would win in anything other than the current RB. Senna or Schumacher wouldn't win either if pitted against this RB

@user-ie5ke3uj6d

20 күн бұрын

Agree

@divinasi0n

20 күн бұрын

​@@Reaz399I've seen people claiming the RB was on average a quicker car than the merc in '21, so how did you reach that conclusion?

What about having the team back up driver and junior driver race the Sprint race. The team gets constructor points, the super licenses get enough points to renew, the junior driver and back up get experience.

@praeliator

19 күн бұрын

The race would probably be very sterile with the drivers being extra cautious. Imagine being the backup RB driver that totals Verstappens RB during the sprint.

They haven’t been able to catch the top team for 12 years what makes this season different

@ua697

19 күн бұрын

One swallow might make a summer 😎

"Finishing and getting points" will be VERY costly for Drivers/Teams taken out by another Driver from another Team. It would almost encourage Drivers to sneakily or purposefully take out other Team's Drivers.

@dancri4694

20 күн бұрын

*bang* 👊🏼 - like giving all the kids participation awards in sport…and agreed, drivers taken out by other cars in the race play a bigger role

@ajegelin

20 күн бұрын

We saw what that could do to a championship challenge in 2021 when both Mercedes drivers took out Max in two different races

f1 should have 3 car teams but 3rd car driver must be 21 or under offering a genuine route into f1 for f2 drivers and after the acquisition of MotoGP surely we need to use it's point system

The problem with F1 it is supposed to be the last of the late brakers, but really have designed rear wings that have taken away late braking. When last have you seen a driver brake late, lock up a little but still gain time. They brake late, lock up and lose a second, forcing drivers to drive in the limits of the car rather than their abilities to find extra time with their own skills.

Christian Hewgill: 48:40 “I rarely disagree with Crofty” Thanks for the heads up Christian. Never heard of him before, but that’s all I need to know about him.

I am amazed that Sky and Channel 4 just asked Stroll and his team what was their view of what happened. There was no challenge , just accepted what was said. Clealry Sky and Channel 4 just have presenters programmed to gloss over everything and not ask an awkward question.

Make that 12 days 😊

Toto inherited his team where Horner built his. I don’t think Horner is too worried about what Toto owns. Horner is more successful in f1 too.

Mclaren just need a car to be there behind max to pick up the pieces should RB have a rare issue, because let's face it, they ain't going to build a better car than RB.

Small suggestion. If you want post cards put up the address in the description or on your website. Just saying!!😀

Love you guys always great 👏🏻😍

@rottieshepcalibre9156

17 күн бұрын

👏

Zhou should move to Aston Martin with Fernando or join Williams

Love the shirt, Crofty! Where can I get one?!

Ferrari are kept in as a team, can you guys see that arrangement continue into the next decade?

Lando was clearly faster than Daniel in Monza 21 and was catching him pretty quickly before the team asked him to hold station.

Matt Baker with the legendary segue's

Audi sells a lot of cars in China.

@StreetDreamzTT

20 күн бұрын

Never thought about that.

@andrewterry4459

20 күн бұрын

@@StreetDreamzTT The VW Group of vehicles is a best selling brand there, second only to China's own BYD Auto Co. Zhou might be able to leverage that to retain his seat.

Can we do a 'Can Merc stop being a tractor before 2026' 😆

@rottieshepcalibre9156

17 күн бұрын

Probably not but I wouldn’t laugh at them. Mighty Mercedes will be back. I would never laugh at teams like Ferrari and Mercedes. They’re huge

I would like to have David's t-shirt, "2secs Ted" is so cool!

if you want more fans to "write" to Matt (as asked for in Crofty`s previous podcast) PLEASE post the full address on the screen so the video can be paused long enuff to get pen and paper to write it down, even the "Closed Caption" i use does not print the correct spellings to some words due to the "accent" of some spoken words.

Novel idea for sprint: use it for its original purpose - to make racing better. No drs, no Tyre blankets, reverse grid based on driver standing, and all the other things pundits keep talking about. Use it as a trial opportunity to try, discover, test, evolve the state of the sport and do your talking on track. At the very least we’ll see what doesn’t work. But then what would journalists speak on? I trust they’ll work hard and investigate, perhaps journalism improves for the better and there will be less podcasters who have never seen a race pre 2018.

It's not just can anyone catch RB. The question is: who comes close to Max. No one really. Yes for some it may be boring while I enjoy history being written. In the 38 years I'm watching, following F1 and go to a grand prix when I can....I have never ever seen anyone as dominant as Max Verstappen. I dare to say that this lad is better then anyone in the history of F1. Name me 1 driver who has been so dominant driving a good or a great car? The only driver I can think of who did it for 1 season was Schumi. Max is doing it over and over again.

@Redlingstein

20 күн бұрын

Max’ consistency AND the crews consistency makes the difference 💪

@gribbin7889

20 күн бұрын

Don’t understand people who would try to argue against this by saying “it’s the car.” Do they not realise that putting it on the car effectively negates the the performance for every WDC in the sport’s history? Is the car good? Yes. But Max is even better.

@princemay73

20 күн бұрын

Jim Clark

@ajegelin

20 күн бұрын

I think Max is like watching Michael all over again and he might be even more consistent than Michael

@ajegelin

20 күн бұрын

@@gribbin7889 these are people who don’t understand Formula 1 very well. And the extremely biased who include these presenters.

I haven't heard Max say thank you Christian over the radio once this season. That's very telling. Whenever Christian congratulated him Max gave a "great one for the team" generic answer. Make of it what you will

Points for everyone is going to make better battles in the mid-field. Imagine the competitivness throughout the grid front the driver on pole, to the driver who crashed in quali.

Well, it didn't took them too long to do it

Top 6 drivers get points Top 15 constructors get points

norris can make his own way through to the front he has good skills and clear thinker he does not need all these people to become a better driver.

@skyf1 how do I get that 2 secs ted shirt!!!!!

@rottieshepcalibre9156

17 күн бұрын

Make your own. There’s no trademark on that

Other day I was writing comment about excat scoring system Crofty was talking about here: 1st - 21 2nd - 19 3rd - 18 so on... 19th - 2 20th - 0 just to award winner bit more and punish worst.... obviously dnf eqaul no points. A) Now days some fights in back are just awsome, there are often 3 or even 4 way battles, but they just dont seem meaningfull... B) Also by today's count, I think difference beatween 1st and 2nd is too much!? Likes of Max and Lewis just distance themself and in half a season you allready know who is winner because they have double the points from second, it also have effect on mindset of others on grid, and fans even more... For example this way Alonso who clearly doesnt have best car on grid could have chance to be champion based on his skill and performance being constantly 3rd or what ever, all it need Max one bad weekend to turn things around, and it would award better drivers rather than better car. C) Contructors and teams play more meaningfull role in championship by being consistant and how they handle race after race not just by having quickest car and that's it here you go.

CHRISTIAN!!! 😁

Max said he's going to see out his contract till 2028 a few times now... huh???

@ThmsDouglas

19 күн бұрын

He 100% did, FACTS!

My opinion, Ferrari will be comfortably second, McLaren may be getting upgrades in Miami but Ferrari are also getting a big package in imola, and from the sound of both drivers and Fred they are genuinely expecting to put it to redbull on certain tracks

A bit unrelated question to the recent race.. If teams can order their drivers to swap positions on track, why stop there? Why not swap their grid positions before the race starts if it benefit their preferred driver??

@oxonomy2372

20 күн бұрын

Because there’s two championships in F1

@Tjescoo

20 күн бұрын

Well, because in theory a driver could also listen to a rival team asking them to move over during the race. Who overtakes who is not regulated in the rulebook. Starting positions are.

@judithwardley

20 күн бұрын

Ferrari did that one in Texas - gave one a part change on purpose to get a grid penalty. so the preferred driver started on the grippy side

Red Bull? Difficult, but not entirely impossible. Verstappen? No chance

AmI tripping or did a thought bubble with a thumbs up appear when the guest said he went karting?

To simplify my earlier message, Scott has it right, live by the sword, die by the sword!

Sure they can... unlikely but they could... the qeustion is whether they should focus 2026 to get out in front... obviously need the new regulations to be finalised but would be important.

Never know, considering Stella and Norris are usually quite pessimistic, i think by design. The fact theyre suggesting challenging Red Bull is extremely encouraging

Regards points down to 12th I don’t agree with it (for driver points). However I am ok with them changing constructors championship points down to 20th (but you have to be classified as a finisher to get them). With drivers though I don’t think anyone really cares who finished 7th or 14th in the championship at the end of the season.

Re new sprint format: As a fan I loved it. My one quibble is during race quali can the commentators try to play no-spoilers to protect fans that missed the sprint race? This is 2024, if you want to avoid spoilers there are plenty of ways to do it, but please don't handcuff the commentators and deprive of us of real analysis. That just seems silly to tell them "don't talk about the sprint results" until quali is done.

2:27 Daniel Riccardo

No

The title should read - 'Can Mclaren catch Adrian Newey within 12 months?' 😂

We promise we'll send you a postcard for every future episode where you don't mention football.😂 It's bad enough we have to pay for multiple sports channels we don't watch - we don't need sportsball in our F1 content too. Keep F1 about F1 ❤

Actually, about f1 drivers parking… there’s compilations of Charles leclerc parking in the wrong spot or positioning around Monaco lol

Crofty is disingenuous in saying F1 has never been like WWE in resorting to machinations of the rules…remember Ecclestone?

Normally if RedBull has no internal issues? no way. But this year anything seems possible.

No. Next question please ….

1:25; 2:22; 3:20; 4:18; 5:16 and the further down you finish, 2pts lower than the finisher above.

2:20 Can someone explain Ferrari’s latest signing?

Thank god it’s not Ted Kravitz on this one ! My god replace him with Nicco or bearnie the guy is cooked and ads nothing to race weekend

He needs to make the move to hass the only seat open

I'm more interested in 2026. If Mercedes produces a strong engine (again), and McLaren applies all they have learned about ground effect, they could be right up there. Lots of 'ifs', though.

I hope they can!!! Bruce would be so proud!!

It doesn’t matter how good the car is. You need a driver who’s capable of going W2W with Max on a consistent basis. And I have doubts that McLaren have that atm.

@MalcolmTann0

20 күн бұрын

If Piastri had the same level of understanding and experience as Norris he would be going at it with Ver. Norris doesn’t want to upset his mate

@Pricelessmile

20 күн бұрын

​@@MalcolmTann0That's just utter bs

@tailonchallenger6471

20 күн бұрын

@@MalcolmTann0 he can’t even manage his tyres

@kristoffer3000

20 күн бұрын

@@MalcolmTann0 Lmao, nice b8 m8, i r8 it 8/8

@MalcolmTann0

20 күн бұрын

@@tailonchallenger6471 Piastri won’t take over 100 races to win a Grand Prix

Awarding points to all finishers is going to incentivise lower teams to take less risks when overtaking. They will prioritise finishing. And we'd see teams fixing their damaged cars and sending them out 40 laps down, just to make the flag.

Just make the sprint a constructor only championship and make it reverse grid

The answer is NO.

points down to last? so teams won't retire their cars, run around possibly minutes off the pace, engines, transmissions blowing up and causing safety cars? don't think so!

It definitely shouldn't be point all the way down the grid then it just becomes a participation reward..... Down to 12th is fine though

If they could they would already be ahead. Mercedes making Mclaren development look good that's all

Chris H? Australia? That's Thor!

So by Crofty’s logic, Stroll and Magnussen get points in the race in China but Tsunoda and Ricciardo don’t, even though they got wiped out of the race by the aforementioned drivers…

'21 the rules were supposed to come in, because of the delay, F1 decided to change the regs to remove Merc's advantage, unless they do something like that to Red Bull next season, which would be harsh at is punishes success, Red Bull and lets face it Max Verstappen will win both championships again for the 4th successive season

Sky needs more Rosberg to balance Crofty out!

With a 364 day, 22 hour head start? Maybe

If points are awarded all the way to 20th place so long as a driver gets to the checkered flag, you'd also want to set a minimum speed or pace to stay in the race... you don't want stricken cars trundling around the circuit just to finish... especially if they create a danger.

@rottieshepcalibre9156

17 күн бұрын

But that happens every race weekend anyway.

No, next question please , and be realistic.

Why did Christian and Matt have to hear Croftys opinion on the points system to realize that awarding points for all finishers makes better sense. Just look at that titanic battle between Magnussen and Sargeant last weekend. All for what.....zero points. Madness

The Chinese GP was actually really good, Land was just awesome in the race.

I think that you underestimate how important a good envirement is to Max. I will be very surprised if he is not moving to Merc. I loved Red Bull in their past years, but now something is broken and I think I can see that in Max. If he doesn't like it anymore, he doesn't stay with Red Bull. Despite a winning car. That's how Max is....

Where can I get Crofty's shirt ! Lol 😅😂😂 Seriously 😳

Never seen pundit number two before. He spoke very well, as did Crofty.

Nobody seems to address the fact that this was a sprint weekend with little time to properly setup the car. At least Ferrari seemed to suffer from this to the benefit of McLaren.

Points to all is stupid idea. Stroll will get a point even after taking out Riccardo and Riccardo gets none. Thats completely unfair. Drivers/Teams might play with this.

No one will know what Lance was doing until/if Lance owns up to it, but IMO I think what he was actually doing was trying to watch the cars farther up the field to try and get a jump start on Ricciardo. He was trying to see if the cars who made it around the turn were going racing again so he could get the jump on the cars ahead. I don't understand why he won't own up to the mistake though. He's a complete waste of a seat and needs to be out of the sport but Daddies money keeps him around.

@Tjescoo

20 күн бұрын

I'm convinced he doesn't even want to be there himself for quite some time, but he is forced by is dad to do this :P

@StreetDreamzTT

20 күн бұрын

​@@Tjescoomore and more I'm thinking this.

@dancri4694

20 күн бұрын

Well...he was looking right when he should have been concentrating on the car in-front...as they said...it's grass-roots racing 101...on safety car restart you only focus on the car in front of you...Lance was not..but too emberrased to admit he made a rookie mistake....again 😅😅

3:20. Errrmmm 🙄

2:29 6:42 25:49 30:40 38:33 46:23

@hamza-chaudhry

20 күн бұрын

15:46 Misc: 29:49 30:52 33:20

Catching up is not the issue, you have to PASS Red Bull in order to win. But that is the paper reality, in real life everything can happen. It Verstappen would have punctured his tire in the last few laps, Norris could have won the race. I remember that one race where both Mercedes cars lost their tires in the last lap and Max was able to catch Bottas and Lewis nearly was able to make it to the finish line on basically three wheels just before Verstappen could take the win. Maybe they have more mechanical issue down the road. Only if you close when those things happen, you can take advantage of those moments. I love that Ferrari let their drivers fight, but it is not without risk as they should know as Leclerc/Vettel did collide in Brazil 2019 (I believe), a year earlier we had the crash of Verstappen/Ricciardo and Verstappen's first win in Barcelona 2016 was not possible if Lewis and Rosberg did take each other out of the race. Lastly postcards and Internet don't mix. Oh and Matt, if you are lonely and want company, there are services named after a Ford car model that can arrange stuff ;-)

Toto is sooooo despirate 😂😂😂 Max won’t go to his SLOW CAR 😂😂😂 Merc has no clue what they are doing

I like Crofty's shirt.