I think it's hilarious that laith says He'll blitz for Moscow, and says "That's what you should've done" and that's exactly what the Swedes tried to do irl.

@lightworker2956

Жыл бұрын

Europeans in the 1700s: "we should conquer Moscow." Europeans in the 1800s: "we should conquer Moscow." Europeans in the 1900s: "we should conquer Moscow." Europeans in the 2000s: "we should conquer Moscow."

@bigtim3060

Жыл бұрын

Well, Sweden had already done it once in 1610, so why not do it again?

@jevinliu4658

Жыл бұрын

@@bigtim3060 That was the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, the Swedes actually supported the Russians

@erusean8492

Жыл бұрын

Was about to comment that, lol

@tyskbulle

Жыл бұрын

@@jevinliu4658 Shhyyy, dont ruin our Berlin & Moscow achivement

For another alternative start date challenge, try to survive the Qing conquest as Ming, anytime after 1645. 11/11/1651 is probably a good challenge. And the ultimate challenge: start as Ming in 1662 (Taiwan OPM) and reconquer China.

@elgenerico6263

Жыл бұрын

Reconquering the mainland as Taiwan is somewhat of a political statement lmao

@yousifosama4414

Жыл бұрын

@@elgenerico6263 and a very based one

@snomcultist189

Жыл бұрын

I support 1662

@Empereur1805

Жыл бұрын

@@yousifosama4414 no bc taiwan is a cuck of usa. Commie china in the opposition to the usa

@fallengeneralyt1619

Жыл бұрын

ive seen this one before

The "Ted Talk" he did actually does drill down into something important to political/historical scholarship and that's how determinism can cloud people's ability to pull important data out of an event because they just write off all alternatives as impossible.

@TheAxeaman

Жыл бұрын

What do you mean by determinism can cloud peoples ability?

@KAPTAINmORGANnWo4eva

Жыл бұрын

@@TheAxeaman "It happened this way therefore it could have only happened this way and looking at other factors has no point" is a common pitfall for people in research. It discourages interrogating the data more thoroughly or applying lessons learned or modern resources creatively. A real world example were the many failures of militaries in the World Wars. Focusing too much on tactics over logistics, focusing too much on static warfare, etc. because that's what mattered in the last war, so it'll always matter in the same way.

@TheAxeaman

Жыл бұрын

@@KAPTAINmORGANnWo4eva thank you for the write up, that was kind. Could you learn how to unlearn that behavior?

@KAPTAINmORGANnWo4eva

Жыл бұрын

@@TheAxeaman The long and short of it is just to be open-minded and not presumptive when looking at data. Don't assume every war ever lost could have only gone one way or else you may miss some good insight the losing side had. Modern combined arms warfare looks a lot more like German Blitzkrieg than Franco-British Sitzkrieg, despite who ultimately won the war.

@antiwars9889

Жыл бұрын

@@KAPTAINmORGANnWo4eva Not only that, people forget that they can change the conditions of said wars by tweaking the decisions of said rulers and party policies and more niche parts of history coming to administration. You can easily twist the conditions in a realistic way from a hundred years before to justify the other side winning, and the best alternative histories often take into account of these niche things.

Definitely would watch a "Try to survive the Partition of the Commonwealth" video

@feudaljester7581

Жыл бұрын

zlewik has done it in the most difficult start date

Karl/Charles XII of Sweden is their version of Richard the Lionheart. they spent very little time in the nation they were king of, they were great military generals and they were absolute insane men with death wishes.

@aminatandour589

8 ай бұрын

The main difference was that Richard cared very little for England whilst Charles Wanted to ensure it’s safety from any and all foreign threats.

@mehmetakifderin6606

20 күн бұрын

i know there has been a year but i know a quote that fits perfeclty ''All those whose names are written on history books are a little crazy'' -my history professor

In Sweden, we call the period from the end of the 30 years war to the end of the Great Northern War "stormakstiden" (great power era), we see our defeat in this war as the end of us being a great power

@siamigo286

Жыл бұрын

Y’all made most of Northern Europe bow at one point. Most definitely the premier power of Europe for those 30 years, mad respect to Sweden

@GRANFRA99

Жыл бұрын

@@siamigo286 an important power there but spain france and england were still leagues ahead

@SnapplyPie

Жыл бұрын

@@GRANFRA99 England actually wasn't leagues ahead, but I would say the Ottomans, France and Spain were ahead, Sweden just didn't have the population and manpower to stand up to those 3.

@JohnDoe-nf6yk

Жыл бұрын

@@GRANFRA99 how was england ahead at this point???

@GRANFRA99

Жыл бұрын

@@JohnDoe-nf6yk richer, more population, more everything honestly. Give you a hint, go to Sweden, outside of Stockholm there is really nothing, no noticeable city, no monuments, nothing.

What you think a stackwipe is: A magician making the stack disappear in to his hat. What stackwipe actually is: Just a slaughter.

@pauldennison1757

Жыл бұрын

Actually not, morale based stack wipes represent the organisation and the morale of the army shattering to such an extent that it disperses into the countryside and is incapable of reforming into an effective fighting force. This is the reason why morale stack wipes give the wiped country back half of the manpower, because they survived but straggled back instead of retreating as an army.

“What if we blitz into Moscow” Yeah that went well last time

@thebronywiking

Жыл бұрын

It actually did in 1610.

maybe in EU5, they should have two or three very well-crafted start dates instead of one real start date and a myriad of shitty bookmarked dates. like how CK3 has two start dates that are both fun to play.

@space__idklmao

Жыл бұрын

CK3 867 is pain and suffering if you aren’t a viking

@solinvictus6562

Жыл бұрын

@@space__idklmao Well,life was pain and suffering in 867,so that fits

@raxzar

Жыл бұрын

@@space__idklmao i love 867

@youtubeadministration8037

Жыл бұрын

Definetly 1618 should be a date in that case. The Thirty years war war one of the most important events in the timeline, there'd be still half the game to play and we already have started reformation. They'd just have to improve 30yw and I'd play that as much as 1444

@Gustav_Kuriga

Жыл бұрын

The issue with EU4s start dates is the amount of dev team time would have to be spent fixing them for every patch.

3:35 the actual strategy of the Swedish king, didn't go very well for him.

@sandels5805

Жыл бұрын

It did, it only failed when they had several redoubdts and 3 times more troops then us, and we only lose because our cavalry couldnt reform in time

@JosefZeethuven

Жыл бұрын

@@sandels5805 så då gick det ju inte bra 🤦‍♂️

@gabrieldossantos1116

Жыл бұрын

@@sandels5805 But- but they lost anyway didn't they? So it didn't go well at the end. It's like saying "Germany only lost because of logistics, they could've won WW2 if they had infinite fuel, steel and manpower" lmao

@barneythepurpledinosaur7002

Жыл бұрын

@Gabriel Dos Santos YEAH? Duh even Luxembourg could win WW2 single-handedly if they had infinite manpower, equipment etc. an INFINITE amount of anything could win somebody a war Now just wait before you go “wHaT aBoUt TaCoS LoL” Yes with an infinite amount you drown you neighbors in them.

@bigtim3060

Жыл бұрын

@@gabrieldossantos1116 well, infinite fuel, steel and manpower are all Impossible factors, but what Sandels probably wanted to say is that the factors which in the end determined the northern war where so amazingly small to such a degree where one outcome wouldnt be more suprising than the other

I think one of the problems these "let's play that war/disaster" videos is that they only focus on a single event and then the video ends. What I enjoyed about this one is that Laith played longer than just the nordic war. So, keep it up!

I’m mad I didn’t get my movie review… instead I got a Ted Talk. I NEED MY MOVIE REVIEW LAITH!

“what if we just blitz it to moscow” i see laith also studied at the napoleon military school alongside funny mustache man

@alanetchetto8908

Жыл бұрын

And alongside the swedish king he is playing as. As it was his strategy as well, lol.

I always loved the other start dates until they stopped maintaining them

Nice video, I actually enjoy alternate starts or modded runs. Also kudos to your editor, the TED part was hilarious. :) Keep up the good work man.

Sweden did have a colonial empire. We had cities in india, we owned bits of the gold coast. 18:15 and we did have a few places in north america like delawere and a few islands in the caribean

@goranpersson7726

Жыл бұрын

huh, cant quite recall the gold coast one although I know denmark had a lil bit there

@justalex3828

Жыл бұрын

@@goranpersson7726 It's switched back and forth between a few country...but the sequence is Swedish-Danish-Dutch-British Gold Coast... Unlike Delaware it's really wasn't much of a settler colony but just a bunch of Forts in the coast

@pidde1633

Жыл бұрын

I wouldn't say an empire. The one in India, Porto Novo, got destroyed by the British and French after a month. Guadeloupe was formally still run by the British, and cabo corso we lost to Denmark after some years. And the one in Carribbean, Saint Barthelemy was french before and after we had it. We tried, we really did hahah.

@DD-nb9rn

Жыл бұрын

i remember learning about swedish new world colonies in middle school lol, unlike other colonizers the swedes had a friendly policy with the american indians too bad they lost the colony to the dutch

@feudaljester7581

Жыл бұрын

poland as well

You should watch kings and generals The Great Northern War documentary it is very interesting. The goal of the war was mainly to dethrone and replace the king of saxony and the Polish Commonwealth. The other wargoal was to restore lost territory from the Russians who conquered neval.

The extended timeline mod has the WW1 startdate option which starts you out in a bad place if you start as Austria or Germany.

If you truly want a hard start then trying to gain independence as quasim in 1600 without using the support independence option is probably the most difficult thing in EU4.

@TheAxeaman

Жыл бұрын

Who? Why?

@maelos61

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, that would be so much fun as a video too... getting independence without using the actual game mechanic for it... Truly riveting...

@jaysefgames1155

Жыл бұрын

@@maelos61 No dlc and you can't support independence. This is how you had to do it before that dlc.

This is a good video concept, the later start dates in EU4 are criminally underexplored

has a proud swede i can say that i love every video when people save the swedish empire

@makasbtw

Жыл бұрын

Yes

Try beating the Napoleonic coalitions next

I could totally listen to Laith just talking about media and history more. Loved the vid btw as always and I think saving Poland from partition would be fun to watch.

21:20 Ming got swept over by the Manchu for similar reasons. Something to do with the silver entering Ming ports via Canton causing so much inflation that once the silver currency travelled north it was already inflated too much to be useful. Probably got a detail or two wrong there though.

"Why don't we just blitz into Moscow?" Bruh he organically came up with the strat Sweden did IRL

Tip: when giving provinces to a subject you don't have to search the list, you can just click on the map.

Just a suggestion, perhaps Laith's facecam can be rotated and shifted to the bottom left corner? With it's current position, it blocks the war icon so you can't really tell if he's winning a war or not, and by how much.

@nathanmc6848

Жыл бұрын

He needs to be able to type /add_warscore without suspicion

You're editor is on some next level stuff here. Absolutely amazing! And absolutely amazing handling of this Swedish war!

I like how the Dacke War event said "lose 3 stability" at the end of the text but it didn't actually take away any stability

3:57 he did try that, he lost

part of byzantiums decline was largely due to the fact that they had like no money after justinian, more of a slow decline looking at the military, and not the only factor, but lack of money definitely worsened byzantium and the conflicts they felt the need to engage in

Damn the editor has sas today.

Despite losing, sweden did amazing job in northen war and Carl was like irl god of war

While it wasnt exactly late game one of the most fun campaigns I've done is to start in the 1600s as England and try to get Cromwell's England. You never see anyone talk about it because I guess people often avoid the disaster

I'd love to see you save the Netherlands from the 'rampjaar', or disaster year in English

Can we have a late game start as the 13 colony’s vs Britain

Loving the editors work ;)

I absolutely love this editor making fun of laith, its hilarious.

Very nice run maboi Leith ! #ignore1444 indeed ! Survivin through desasters is fun to do!

Love the alternate start date content, personally.

The whole time this video was playing Sabaton was playing in my head.

I like how Augustus II "The Strong" generates 0 mil power a month

That was excellent, you have earned yourself a new subscriber good sir

That was a fun video ! I'd love to see you do more along the same theme. Maybe you could face the Seven Years wars as Prussia or the War of the Austrian succession as Austria.

6:57 well no one wanted it and you needed somewhere to store the pickled herring

You should do more of these

The dacke war was that when Sweden broke free from the kalmar union one area of Sweden wanted to be a own nation. There was a war between Sweden and the rebellion that ended with Dacke, the leader of the uprising got his head cut off

25:23 - 26:54 So true. We can win, tie or lose

Playing as the Netherlands, defending against Spain sounds really nice! I would definetly watch it!

Give to the editor a raise!

8:18 they wanted to survive, pretty much... I'm quite certain they were the ones to be attacked for once.

holey crescent mode for HOI4 is about what if Sweden was victorious, I think playing that after this would be so fitting

One tile client state only challenge!

I sure loved this id like a few more of theese but witch scenario well i dunno you could win as napoleon or something but that feels somehow easy. Anyhow i hope more of these kinda videos get made

i agree with Laith, think of all the pain we can inflict

As a Swedish person with an interest in history, I like this. Keep up the good work!

Loool 2 separate forts in one province!!!!

It would be interesting to see the same but the Commonweath before their collapse

@OlujaDoTokija

Жыл бұрын

Go watch Zlewikk's video about it

@GreenSharder

Жыл бұрын

@@OlujaDoTokija Eh, before the first partition is kinda boring since it’s still in a good position, I’d prefer to see a survival and rebuilding after or during the first or second partition.

I like the poland idea! The one where you try to survive the partition, but to make it hard you do have to start at war, you can't have preparation time, cuz you're too good otherwise. The comment from John Cao with trying to reconquer China as the Ming OPM in Taiwan from 1662 sounds fun too!

incredible video

I 100% want him to do a video of him surviving the petition of Poland

If I remember my Swedish history correct Carl XII actually tried marching to Moscow but then winter came and I think you can guess the rest....

@thebronywiking

Жыл бұрын

We are swedes. We to have extreme winters, especially back in those days. It was the scorched earth tactics of the russians and abandonment of the ukrainians that did us in.

Ngl... sometimes I really like playing on other start dates... there are some really nice events and scenarios out there

best episode in a long time

I’d like it if you played other start dates. Maybe you can do the crusades in the extended timeline mod.

"They should've rushed Moscow". Oh the Swedes went further than Moscow...

@SnapplyPie

Жыл бұрын

They got a trip to Moldavia!

surviving the partition of poland would make for a good video, keep it up!

Different Start Dates are awesome.

I kinda want to see you conquer the new world and just see what mess the rest gets up to

Loved the Ted talk edit

I'm a big fan of later start dates, And it is actually not too bad because the Advisor cost and tech cost "Increase over time" only starts when you start, so If you say, start in Asia you can use your brain to rapidly modernise and take over a tonne of Asia with not a lot of problems. It's a lot of fun. I'd definitely like to see more videos of a similar concept, I think Zlewikk had something similar of saving Historical disasters I think it was called, but later start dates are underappreciated and your play styles are quite different.

20:27 Wonderful idea

Dalaskogen has a province modifier that gives it a native +5 goods produced

YES, more please 🙂

There is an exploit to the dacke war if you hold the event and just stab up it registers the event's requisite for ending as fulfilled it wont spawn the rebels and it will end the event from what I remember. I don't remember if its been fixed though

idk how long I've watched your videos without knowing your name is Laith

I want more Laith TED talks

Ah yes. Other start dates. Perfect for breaking the entire game.

He got a whole scene and a mii audience hahaha

The other start dates are often overlooked which is a shame. It's nice to spice things up starting at later bookmarks. I really do hope this trend catches on because as of now Paradox actually resigned from other start dates! CK3 has only TWO start dates compared to like TEN CK2 has. It's really sad because at the end of CK2 development they added another starting date for free and it was one of the best.

@battlez9577

Жыл бұрын

Ck2 has the main ones, and then all the day by day ones

the slow ass ted talk stage fade in LMFA)

Your Ted talk made me wanna sub to you again. Länge leve Svea Rike

Odd that Sweden would start with mostly cavalry when Cav was the one thing they lacked. They even tried using reindeer for cavalry

I am entirely unsure if this is possible in eu4 but if you could win the Haitian revolution against the French it would be beautiful

Can't believe I shook this guys hand the other day.

That ted talk edit made me laugh hysterically

As you said, Poles are your 5th highest demographic :D Partition of Poland at the later dates is super painful to survive, would highly recommend it!

You should do eu4 disaster saves

I actually agree with him, I think its why I'm a fan of the great conquerors mechanic in anbenar

There is one alternative start date where Montenegro is a two province minor vassal of Ottomans, I think that would be an impossible challenge

Let's see that Commonwealth survival play. Do it, lol.

He was chosen by heaven

Hol Up' I've already seen this somewhere. *Looks at Zlewwik's channel*

Blitzing to Moscow was Charles the 12ths original plan!

For another #Ignore1444 you could play as the 13 Colonies and beat up the British and then manifest some destiny

partition seems a good vid

Bro, if you think 2 forts in Lithuania is a lot, then you should know there were hunderds of castles in Samogitian region alone...

@Ugapiku

Жыл бұрын

And yes I do know this is a game and you can only have 1 fort...

3:37 that what they tried to do historically

at the end he said "the prussians have no navy now" they still had bornholm smh

Fun fact he did go truckin to Moscow but Peter invented scourge earth tactics burnt all the villages along the way and pillaged Ukrainian grain supplies and the biggest winter in four hundred years or something came up and he died in seige shot through the head

@goranpersson7726

Жыл бұрын

ye the siege death was over in norway though