Can I Beat Abyss Without Zhongli? (Genshin Impact)

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Today in Genshin Impact we're continuing on our Zhongli cleanse and trying the hardest stuff Genshin has to offer. The spiral abyss.
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0:00 Intro, F9,10
2:00 Floor 11
7:50 Floor 12
19:15 Mental Breakdown

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  • @tkba6290
    @tkba6290 Жыл бұрын

    The problem wasn't you not having Zhongli, The problem was you actually forget how to build a team without him.

  • @baronsionis6855

    @baronsionis6855

    Жыл бұрын

    Easily the most accurate statement to be made regarding Moga's 'struggles' in this abyss despite having every unit in the game at his disposal.

  • @tkba6290

    @tkba6290

    Жыл бұрын

    @@baronsionis6855 at Level 90 !!!!!!!!!!

  • @joeyisabsb1

    @joeyisabsb1

    Жыл бұрын

    How do you just forget to bring a healer on floor 11? even if you use Zhongli you know to bring a healer for at least one side. Its just artificial struggling.

  • @Nvm3r0s

    @Nvm3r0s

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@joeyisabsb1 Perfectly said, just artificial struggling

  • @R-Ttt

    @R-Ttt

    Жыл бұрын

    Bro got way too comfortable with 7/8 characters and refuses to play anyone else 😭 it’s always either raiden team or itto team or occasionally bloom team

  • @naps6687
    @naps6687 Жыл бұрын

    Bros treating zhongli like a drug 💀

  • @youlecills595

    @youlecills595

    Жыл бұрын

    he kinda is 💀

  • @squanix3065

    @squanix3065

    Жыл бұрын

    If you watch ANY OF HIS VIDEOS Zhongli is ALWAYS HERE , Zhongli is a drug for him

  • @simonditomasso9868

    @simonditomasso9868

    Жыл бұрын

    That’s like being addicted to not using your brain 😭

  • @Suzoiaze

    @Suzoiaze

    Жыл бұрын

    Bros so hard for zongli than zongli is for osmathis wine 🍷

  • @Rustyclawz-kf2pn

    @Rustyclawz-kf2pn

    Жыл бұрын

    He kind of is💀

  • @jammjarr3359
    @jammjarr3359 Жыл бұрын

    "Why am I struggling on Floor 11" He says after not putting a healer in his team and thinking he'll be all fine and dandy

  • @routaman3758

    @routaman3758

    Жыл бұрын

    That's the reason he doesn't know how to build a team because all he knows that wrap the characters with shield and they will be fine....... Because even when having Kokomi in the team, he kept on dying pointlessly Also he doesn't know how to use play with other characters

  • @spiderdude2099
    @spiderdude2099 Жыл бұрын

    Moga: *has every unit in the game* Also Moga: *can’t build a team without one crusty old rock man*

  • @lulch212

    @lulch212

    Жыл бұрын

    CRUSTY?! HE'S GORGEOUS but yeah you're right he can't build a proper team without him

  • @constellationdreamlessnigh5573

    @constellationdreamlessnigh5573

    Жыл бұрын

    That crusty old rock man is the one that pulled me to play genshin. ❤

  • @spiderdude2099

    @spiderdude2099

    Жыл бұрын

    @@lulch212 I meant it more as a pun on “crust” as in the layer of the earth, but…..eh, to each their own, I’m gay, but I don’t think he’s hot at all. Actually none of the men in genshin. They all kinda suck. I’m not here for skinny no-ass-having bishounen pretty boys.

  • @serene__0

    @serene__0

    Жыл бұрын

    That’s like me with Ayaka and Yoimiya 🥲

  • @pyrophobia133

    @pyrophobia133

    Жыл бұрын

    bloom team is one hell of a drug

  • @MC-vv1mu
    @MC-vv1mu Жыл бұрын

    Seeing your Nahida die with Kokomi on the team with her ult completely charged hurts more than anything else in this video

  • @scoot-_-alert9296

    @scoot-_-alert9296

    Жыл бұрын

    screen dmg

  • @hakipower1

    @hakipower1

    Жыл бұрын

    I wouldn't even be suprised if Moga didn't know that Kokomis NAs and CA while in Burst heals the entire team

  • @h1emv

    @h1emv

    Жыл бұрын

    @@hakipower1 right lol

  • @zapdostanker8316

    @zapdostanker8316

    Жыл бұрын

    switching to kokomi would remove his fast dendro application and since he is only using 1 dendro he needs nahida on field most of the time for bloom proc's, and putting kokomi on the field is just a dps loss

  • @flowwy_

    @flowwy_

    Жыл бұрын

    @@zapdostanker8316 while you're right, dying is a bigger dps loss

  • @KingNBubby
    @KingNBubby Жыл бұрын

    Fun fact: nahida’s e can one shot all three hydro blobs from the cube at the final phase at once

  • @iasoing4919

    @iasoing4919

    Жыл бұрын

    Ohh i dont have her but i really did wonder why ppl werent doing rhat

  • @pfortunato78

    @pfortunato78

    Жыл бұрын

    sounds risky if you scuff it though.

  • @kuyarence

    @kuyarence

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@pfortunato78 nah! Just one full sweep of aim and just that's it. I use her all the time against that boss and I can prove it especially when the Hypostasis 2.0 event came back.

  • @krGt_

    @krGt_

    Жыл бұрын

    @@pfortunato78 i mean u just need to hold E and make a circle . how come it sounds risky =S

  • @MrJayslayerjay

    @MrJayslayerjay

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@krGt_ depends on where you are positioned. 1 didn't get hit because it was out of range I guess for me but it sure wasn't a problem or risky lol.

  • @qemintae
    @qemintae Жыл бұрын

    for magu kenki, just be sure you're always in front of him so his back are against the wall so once he teleports to the wall he won't be teleporting anywhere else

  • @protagkun8859

    @protagkun8859

    Жыл бұрын

    That's true for 80% of the time, but Kenki does have an attack in which he dashes forward, followed by an anemo slash, so he can escape that corner but that's kinda rare I guess.

  • @emeraly2721

    @emeraly2721

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@protagkun8859 its anything but rare ..if you watch some more guides ..you can see some cc advise you to not push him too close to the wall or moving around him a bit to prevent him from doing it

  • @Menace-To-Humanity

    @Menace-To-Humanity

    Жыл бұрын

    maguu will always dash to where your camera i facing, and this includes burst animations too. but the mages will always tp to where your character is looking, and the same rule applies to the whopperflowers.

  • @protagkun8859

    @protagkun8859

    Жыл бұрын

    @@emeraly2721 I suppose I'm speaking only from my experience then, cause for me it's quite rare, and it never mattered if Kenki was against the wall or not, he just dashes forward whenever he feels like it. Most of the time for me when Kenki is against the wall, he'll just do basic attacks or his big plunge.

  • @MiaMiaonthewall

    @MiaMiaonthewall

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@Protag Kun how'd you get that percentage?

  • @queersona326
    @queersona326 Жыл бұрын

    Moga struggling with keeping Nahida alive when I don't think I saw him once use Kokomi's burst to heal his party

  • @aspillust

    @aspillust

    Жыл бұрын

    kokomi's burst makes her a walking statue of the seven, its so confusing to see him not take advantage of that lol

  • @eveoutsider6134
    @eveoutsider6134 Жыл бұрын

    bro built 2 half-teams and put them on one side, then got mad that it didnt work out.....perfect showcase of being self-defeating

  • @joeyisabsb1

    @joeyisabsb1

    Жыл бұрын

    He also didn't use any healers on floor 11. It wouldn't make for good content if he beats it easily so he has to create more difficulties for a more entertaining video.

  • @eveoutsider6134

    @eveoutsider6134

    Жыл бұрын

    @joeyisabsb1 ye I get that....the comment was a joke...im not critically breaking down his run....this is jenshin impak....its never that deep

  • @thegamingnerd4
    @thegamingnerd4 Жыл бұрын

    Moga: I have no Hydro! Also Moga: Hasn't used Kokomi Skill or Yelan or Nilou Burst.

  • @g0gin0
    @g0gin0 Жыл бұрын

    Bro was so desperate for a shield he put noelle in an itto team 🤯 Zhongli really was a drug for him. Noelle was his cali sober drug

  • @deibu_1361

    @deibu_1361

    Жыл бұрын

    He even had Bennett and Gorou C6 who were enough to sustain Itto.

  • @kenobi_812
    @kenobi_812 Жыл бұрын

    It seems to me that Moga uses Zhongli as a GIANT crutch even though he really isn’t necessary

  • @adrianterceno38
    @adrianterceno38 Жыл бұрын

    It pains me to see Diona and Layla being so forgotten lol Specially Diona because she's such an incredible unit. She's a battery, EM buffer, shielder, healer and ATL buffer with Noblese and Elegy. Please use her more Moga

  • @Relevart9169

    @Relevart9169

    Жыл бұрын

    Her EM does nothing, she's a cryo unit, cryo teams don't use EM

  • @Shadowcynder1830

    @Shadowcynder1830

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Relevart9169 If you have her at C6, her burst gives teammates 200 EM while in it.

  • @Relevart9169

    @Relevart9169

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Shadowcynder1830 ye i know, but u don't use cryo units in dendro teams which are the main ones that want EM

  • @oultimosamurai5579

    @oultimosamurai5579

    Жыл бұрын

    well fridge teams exist at least

  • @adrianterceno38

    @adrianterceno38

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Relevart9169 he could have essily used her in the hydro mimics floor to freeze them, shield tighnari and guve him an EM boost for more dmg

  • @Tx_98
    @Tx_98 Жыл бұрын

    Wait beating abyss without Zhongli is considered a challenge?

  • @tempi7021

    @tempi7021

    Жыл бұрын

    Probably just moga tbh

  • @gryphey

    @gryphey

    Жыл бұрын

    Lol fr I’ve been playing zhongli less for almost 3 years

  • @_mako

    @_mako

    Жыл бұрын

    its not if youve never had zhongli. but it definitely is if youre used to him

  • @joeyisabsb1

    @joeyisabsb1

    Жыл бұрын

    Nope, its not. Healers in this game already over-heal but im assuming this is for content so he is playing it up. The proof is in the fact that he didn't use any healers on floor 11 as if to try to make it seem a lot harder.

  • @matheusbianquincera3104

    @matheusbianquincera3104

    Жыл бұрын

    he has being in zhongli (genshin crack) for a long time, let's give some leniency lololol

  • @superTowel
    @superTowel Жыл бұрын

    I think a lot of your issues can be solved just by understanding the enemy's mechanics. Like how to bait the hydro heralds, how to corner the magu kenki, and last but not least understanding the wenut's attack pattern.

  • @nathho

    @nathho

    Жыл бұрын

    Content creators can't be bothered to understand enemies. They will always try to brute force it and complain when they can't do that

  • @kuyarence

    @kuyarence

    Жыл бұрын

    Gladly I watch Sevy most of the time for Spiral Abyss run guides.

  • @MrJayslayerjay

    @MrJayslayerjay

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@nathho actually it's because they just 1 shot the bosses in the overworld so they never see any of the attacks. So then when it's in the abyss with way more health they actually see more attacks this has happened to me before lol.

  • @hyeongpinkz

    @hyeongpinkz

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@nathho the way xlice IMMEDIATELY came to mind

  • @poumyy

    @poumyy

    Жыл бұрын

    Nah hard disagree on the Welnut, even if u can knock it down if stays down for maybe 5-7 seconds, spending most of the time underground is just ugh. Maybe it’s a skill issue but I feel like they should really try keeping bosses that purposely waste time out of the abyss lol

  • @kachowdah1520
    @kachowdah1520 Жыл бұрын

    I’m pretty sure nahida alone on floor 11 would’ve been fine .. she can one shot all those blob things at the end with 1 skill you just have to do a full circle basically .. you could’ve probably taken yae and a healer or a different shielded instead of Sara and Tighnari

  • @protagkun8859

    @protagkun8859

    Жыл бұрын

    Sometimes I think Moga forgets the full extent of all his characters and their capabilities, Yae sounds perfect yet she most likely never crossed his mind

  • @emeraly2721

    @emeraly2721

    Жыл бұрын

    Bro went extra hard waifu mode on his own ..let him enjoy it

  • @nathho

    @nathho

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@protagkun8859 people really do forget how good Miko is

  • @mmyees1167

    @mmyees1167

    Жыл бұрын

    bro needs a sara cleanse next

  • @loif93
    @loif93 Жыл бұрын

    As a Zhongli not-haver and not-wanter, I always laugh seeing people struggle without him. Geo daddy has been really spoiling you

  • @Zodease

    @Zodease

    Жыл бұрын

    I agree

  • @amanshandilya4328

    @amanshandilya4328

    Жыл бұрын

    exactly fellow GEO CeO not haver

  • @lizalovesart

    @lizalovesart

    Жыл бұрын

    Same lol

  • @alex.-__.

    @alex.-__.

    Жыл бұрын

    what charas do you use? @Loif93

  • @jinougawithchocolate9329

    @jinougawithchocolate9329

    Жыл бұрын

    I've had him since his first run and use him regularly and even I'm not this reliant on him lmao. Ig it's expected tho since I have an alt that didn't have him for over a year and still doesn't use him for abyss.

  • @Toqrainbow
    @Toqrainbow Жыл бұрын

    i also love how you're CONSTANTLY calling maguu kenki masanori. this has to be the 3rd or 4th time and it's actually so funny but in a charming way

  • @Rachitdubey
    @Rachitdubey Жыл бұрын

    Finally feeling what anxiety hoyo was talking about 😂😂😂😂

  • @wafaay7182

    @wafaay7182

    Жыл бұрын

    "We don't wanna cause excess anxiety to our player" ... * insert meme* Well that was a fuc*ing lie 😂

  • @spiralabbysrundown6033
    @spiralabbysrundown6033 Жыл бұрын

    In my own experience, once you get used to not using Zhongli, you feel more acomplished. In my opinion, it's a massive sign of progress.

  • @kenzogrimes2859

    @kenzogrimes2859

    Жыл бұрын

    Same here, heck I didn't have Zhongli until his second rerun and I was still doing fairly well in the abyss. The only decent shielder I had was Diona and she carried me with both heals and a good shield. Though I suppose it cause I played Honkai and PGR more often, so dodges there are kind of a necessity xD

  • @mangshu21

    @mangshu21

    Жыл бұрын

    real accomplishment is beating abyss with teams that are horribly mismatched and do not synergize.. you dont use zhongli but then u use the utterly busted hyperbloom.. i mean come on.

  • @simonditomasso9868

    @simonditomasso9868

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mangshu21 sounds like a recipe for disaster 😭 the point of the game is to draft teams that synergize together

  • @simonditomasso9868

    @simonditomasso9868

    Жыл бұрын

    I didn’t have zhongli until 3.0 and I can’t agree more with this. zhongli makes the game a little boring to me since you do less damage and you don’t even have to care about mechanics which is the fun of playing a game

  • @Bluey_g

    @Bluey_g

    Жыл бұрын

    I’ve never had Zhongli ever and I’ve been playing almost since launch (2 months after) but I’m still kinda meh at dodging

  • @criccode2993
    @criccode2993 Жыл бұрын

    It was painful seeing moga not using yelan'sburst against wenut in his first few tries, but all's well that ends well

  • @jetkirby3981

    @jetkirby3981

    Жыл бұрын

    And him not reading the game telling him it's only Swirl elements

  • @sittingcrowd912

    @sittingcrowd912

    Жыл бұрын

    15:47 "I don't have any hydro dude" oh he's 100% faking it. No one is this clueless; na-uh nope."

  • @yurimiracle7768

    @yurimiracle7768

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@sittingcrowd912 he meant he didn't have enough hydro to create blooms

  • @sittingcrowd912

    @sittingcrowd912

    Жыл бұрын

    @@yurimiracle7768 bro he has 3 hydro units and Yelan had her burst up

  • @yurimiracle7768

    @yurimiracle7768

    Жыл бұрын

    @@sittingcrowd912 that's the reason. He had yelan's burst but didn't active it so he said he doesn't have enough hydro

  • @otaku-chan4888
    @otaku-chan4888 Жыл бұрын

    I'm a super casual player who knows the meta in theory but doesn't have the skills or time to actually apply it to the abyss- so moga struggling is relatable to me! Of course the part where he has literally every character in the game and five star weapons/constellations isn't relatable.. but hey, that's what I get for watching a content creator. It was a fun video to watch, as usual!

  • @hyeongpinkz

    @hyeongpinkz

    Жыл бұрын

    ok but u know the theoretical part and just lack the skill and/or resources (chars + weapons) to execute it moga ONLY has resources due to whaling but he lacks both the theoretical knowledge AND the mechanical skill

  • @hagarrastamnz596
    @hagarrastamnz596 Жыл бұрын

    the good thing about Zhongli is that he allows you to brute force a lot of things the bad thing about Zhongli is that he allows you to brute force a lot of things

  • @wafaay7182
    @wafaay7182 Жыл бұрын

    Imagine how more crazy that bloom team would be if there was a second dendro applier and helaer (like a certain small buny character) instead of Yelan who's litteraly there just for style points 🙃

  • @Relevart9169

    @Relevart9169

    Жыл бұрын

    Why would u run kokomi AND yaoyao lol. Yelan is there for her dmg and good hydro application

  • @wafaay7182

    @wafaay7182

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Relevart9169 Well from how many times his nahida died obviously he needed two healer. Also, I don't know if you understand how a nilou bloom team works but the extra blooms he would generate from having a second dendro in the team would way outshine Yelan's damage contribution in this team. Also, about yelan's hydro application, in bloom teams you are better off keeping a dendro aura on the enemy while triggering blooms with hydro to generate two seeds at a time instead of only one, Nilou's ring and kokomi are all the hydro application he needs.

  • @Relevart9169

    @Relevart9169

    Жыл бұрын

    @@wafaay7182 2 healers is just never a good comp no matter how u twist it, not to mention he'd need to switch to yaoyao to put out the bunny and he wasn't even doing that with kokomi's jellyfish let alone 2 at a time

  • @Batman.-

    @Batman.-

    Жыл бұрын

    @@wafaay7182 he died despite having two healers That doesn’t mean he needed two healers It means he needed to learn how to use his healer well, he died with nahida DESPITE Kokomis burst being up. The death was literally just cus he was trash at the game lmaoo

  • @KamronA

    @KamronA

    Жыл бұрын

    @@wafaay7182 He doesn't need two healers. He just needed to use the healer he had, which he wasn't doing very well. At one point when Nahida was getting wrecked and died Kokomi was at full burst just sitting there doing nothing.

  • @insectslayer1374
    @insectslayer1374 Жыл бұрын

    this is so painful to watch kokomi and yelan are just chilling there with their burst up while nahida taps the worm xD dude is so stressed he keeps forgetting his characters have ults

  • @Stan-Above-All
    @Stan-Above-All Жыл бұрын

    Masanori will have to make his first appearance in the Spiral Abyss next patch after hearing his name so many times in this video. 🤣

  • @sky-zo2ml

    @sky-zo2ml

    Жыл бұрын

    next we have to force him to do a not saying masanori challenge

  • @bjornnilsson2941

    @bjornnilsson2941

    Жыл бұрын

    Honestly it wouldn't surprise me. Maybe triple lvl 100 midnight Masanori and you have to talk to all three of them to even start the fight, all on the clock of course.

  • @jamiejam9976

    @jamiejam9976

    Жыл бұрын

    @@bjornnilsson2941 nah you have to do the whole quest 3 times on the clock and then they level up to lvl 300 second half of their HP bar

  • @sekaiia_lazy
    @sekaiia_lazy Жыл бұрын

    Your Super-bloom team for the abyss will be so much better once Kaveh is out because of his resistance to dendro core damage, which we all need tbh

  • @emxryld

    @emxryld

    Жыл бұрын

    or he could use yaoyao, or use his kokomi to heal himself.

  • @sekaiia_lazy

    @sekaiia_lazy

    Жыл бұрын

    @@emxryld Yeah that is true! I would just use Koko, but then there wouldn’t be enough Dendro Application. Nahida is still really delicate and Yao Yao’s Dendro application isn’t the best

  • @hyeongpinkz

    @hyeongpinkz

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@sekaiia_lazy using koko + yelan + nahida is just enough dendro, and he doesn't have to build koko w EM bc nahida will have complete ownership of the blooms it does have a lower bloom generation but more consistency

  • @emxryld

    @emxryld

    Жыл бұрын

    @@sekaiia_lazy true, idk when i run bloom i usually run aggravate on the other side. i use nahida there, feel like shes better there for the characters i use. so i use traveler and yaoyao for bloom, it works fine tbh. youre right nahida is the best dendro applicator, it flows better w her for sure. i just think hes not properly playing, thats the issue. not using characters kits to their best ability /:

  • @icygreen9129

    @icygreen9129

    Жыл бұрын

    @@hyeongpinkz i think running baizhu shield should also help

  • @user-vb4ve7gy1f
    @user-vb4ve7gy1f Жыл бұрын

    Love seeing people struggle without shield characters. No idea how you have all units and still struggle though.

  • @Furina_DeFontaine-_

    @Furina_DeFontaine-_

    Жыл бұрын

    Haven't used a shield ever since I was a xinyan main in AR 40

  • @enesjei

    @enesjei

    Жыл бұрын

    Because they sucks at playing genshin without shield...just like a newbie

  • @KuroLionheart
    @KuroLionheart Жыл бұрын

    This was extremely painful to watch lol. It's like Moga just forgets everything about how the game works once Zhongli is not there.

  • @noire664
    @noire664 Жыл бұрын

    I will just say, I really did not expect you to struggle THIS much Moga... Not going to lie this almost makes me feel like I'm an actually skilled player now, considering I do not have zhongli and play Abyss Shield-less most of the time... Your friend might've been right, a month without him will do you some good.

  • @aanyasrivastava9652
    @aanyasrivastava9652 Жыл бұрын

    Bro is so addicted to Zhongli that he forgot that Bloom damages the active character too. He really took a dendro team with NO healers to a floor with all hydro enemies and really except he won't die instantly

  • @simonazzz
    @simonazzz Жыл бұрын

    It's nice to see Moga finally learning how the game works.

  • @kait6451
    @kait6451 Жыл бұрын

    Since you're on a Zhongli cleanse I think it'd be a great time bring out Albedo for your Itto team! He can snapshot Gorou's buff and do some really good damage as the third geo slot in that team.

  • @barbaradesigns1774

    @barbaradesigns1774

    Жыл бұрын

    I was thinking that, he wants a shield so much that forget Albedo is a perfect match with Itto and Gorou.

  • @gryphey
    @gryphey Жыл бұрын

    I’ve been doing abyss without zhongli since the game launched. Kokomi works just fine

  • @ruruisu

    @ruruisu

    Жыл бұрын

    Kokomi is just another zhongli

  • @simonditomasso9868

    @simonditomasso9868

    Жыл бұрын

    BASED kokomi on field teams are effectively immortal 😂

  • @gryphey

    @gryphey

    Жыл бұрын

    @@simonditomasso9868 tbh that’s true lmao

  • @raviolikun9389

    @raviolikun9389

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ruruisu LITERALLY, I always have her 🥲 cosas sad

  • @emeraly2721

    @emeraly2721

    Жыл бұрын

    I have both and i dont care what other ppl say lol

  • @senu.
    @senu. Жыл бұрын

    see you take zhongli out and suddenly the abyss is a big challenge. it's all in your head I swear 😭😭 good luck for the next abyss run lmao

  • @marvolo.5761
    @marvolo.5761 Жыл бұрын

    Bro is struggling with the abyss while having all of the characters

  • @Liam-tz6up
    @Liam-tz6up Жыл бұрын

    Moga for future notice kokomi's e works for wenut. and kokomis e has very high range verticaly(up and down)

  • @ArtDxD
    @ArtDxD Жыл бұрын

    Let me introduce one of the newest 4 stars we have gotten yao yao she is a really goof healer and a decent dendro applyer hope this helps :3

  • @baronsionis6855

    @baronsionis6855

    Жыл бұрын

    It won't help. His mind is stuck in a pre-dendro meta and his insistence to put Sara of all units in that Raiden Tighnari comp proves it.

  • @Relevart9169

    @Relevart9169

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@baronsionis6855 "Raiden Tighnari team" just shouldn't even be said lmao

  • @aspillust

    @aspillust

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Relevart9169 i mean it's not terrible, raiden can trigger spread and give him energy, and use her burst every once in a while. there's probably better options but the pure fact that she's electro and can farm energy makes her work relatively well.

  • @divinechayde

    @divinechayde

    Жыл бұрын

    @@baronsionis6855 exactly I like the Sara representation but omg put her back in the locker if that's the team he constantly chooses lol

  • @Rachitdubey
    @Rachitdubey Жыл бұрын

    Yes Moga Yao yao is almost a must for Superbloom team

  • @a3s1r1986
    @a3s1r1986 Жыл бұрын

    For floor 11 I took Yaoyao into floor 11 instead of my other healers for chamber 2 and 3. Was fun watching the mimics and Hypo make bloom happen for themselves.

  • @andr0zzsenpai
    @andr0zzsenpai Жыл бұрын

    Bro, his inability to make good team comps after all this time is kind of infuriating 😭 if you see the water mobs, just bring cryo units, you won't even get hit.

  • @starsXX_kw
    @starsXX_kw Жыл бұрын

    I feel so bad for Nahida here 😭

  • @kuyarence
    @kuyarence Жыл бұрын

    I even play on mobile yet I don't struggle like this even without using Zhongli. Guess team building is definitely his main problem here, struggling without using Zhongli in almost any team he plays. It hurts me to not see Albedo in his Itto Team despite having him and chose Noelle instead just because of the shield yet Bennett & C4 Gorou can survive him enough. Another thing is that he probably forgot picking Kazuha then use other DPS or even like Xiangling in this video especially against those Frostarm Lawachurls.

  • @Sunhwk

    @Sunhwk

    Жыл бұрын

    Team building and a tad bit of game knowledge too. 😅 He could've used Raiden National on first half of floor 12 and beat those frost lawachurls so much faster - giving his second team so much more time. I'll give him that Wenut is a big pain in the ass bc it's pattern can be so random, but Magu Kenki can easily be manipulated by aiming your camera to the staircase/wall, forcing him to not teleport everywhere. He really got too much dependent on Zhongli and onga boonga everything atp.

  • @amnos180188

    @amnos180188

    Жыл бұрын

    Nahh I used ZL all the time back then and still managed to 36* abyss w/o him. Was on mobile too. Only switched to controller recently. I think the issue here isn't " him being used to using ZL." It's more to lack of knowledge abt enemies mechanics and teams.

  • @kuyarence

    @kuyarence

    Жыл бұрын

    @@amnos180188 exactly

  • @enesjei

    @enesjei

    Жыл бұрын

    @@amnos180188he issue is actually him isn't used to play without john lee on certain teams. It's painful to see nahida soloing wenut when yelan and kokomi have their burst ready. He knows the knowledge but once he cannot use his favorite tools on practice, he's suddenly forgot those knowledges.

  • @amnos180188

    @amnos180188

    Жыл бұрын

    @@enesjei when you have ZL, you don't need to learn enemies mechanics because there is no point in dodging. Hence why i said he do not have knowledge of the enemies mechanics nor fully understand the characters skills. If you know, whether you're used to using ZL or not, you will still be able to do it if you know the characters well. Hence why i said it's not really "using ZL too much" issue. It's the lack of understanding the mechanics and the characters. I mean there's nothing wrong in that. You play how you wanna play I guess. If he likes using ZL in his team then go ahead. It's the ppl with superiority issue that is annoying imo. The 'I don't use ZL and I can still beat abyss' brag. Or complaining abt the game is hard when you just do not want to learn the mechanics or characters' skills lol

  • @ntwrklv
    @ntwrklv Жыл бұрын

    it's always funny watching him struggle without zhongli as someone who doesn't like using shields. healers > shielders but even then i don't use healers that much either lol

  • @keaganvaldez24
    @keaganvaldez24 Жыл бұрын

    Jesus, there's a lot of characters that came out now and still stuck with zhongli??

  • @hannah10949
    @hannah10949 Жыл бұрын

    Team-building issues aside (why would you neglect to bring a defensive unit in a team which creates dendro cores that can hurt you??), I think if Moga understood the different characters and the enemies' AI a little bit more this mightve been a lot less painful.

  • @Hue_Marlon
    @Hue_Marlon Жыл бұрын

    "The rolling bullbeep/beepholes" oh my god i love this beep and i do not even care where it is placed but i love it

  • @midoi8161
    @midoi8161 Жыл бұрын

    you can knock wenut down with yelans burst pose, so you can save some time without having to charge shot and then do burst animation. it's not much but as someone who beats wenut 1 second on time it's helpful.

  • @Farhan-tl6xm
    @Farhan-tl6xm Жыл бұрын

    You can scan every hypostasis slime with nahida

  • @jose-ce4ph
    @jose-ce4ph Жыл бұрын

    Zhongli doesn't just stop incoming damage, he also stops Moga from losing his mind

  • @sasakimon
    @sasakimon Жыл бұрын

    "I do damage when he's not down. I dont get it" i think its because you only use yelan's burst when that boss is flying😬

  • @pankechii_
    @pankechii_ Жыл бұрын

    bros unironically trying to swirl dendro

  • @autobee23
    @autobee23 Жыл бұрын

    I had Zhongli since 2022, and I still dodge attacks when his shield is up because I’m just so use to dodging a lot…😅

  • @ssslawz
    @ssslawz Жыл бұрын

    It's always nice to be reminded that money cant buy ability/skill. Thanks for that.

  • @jetkirby3981

    @jetkirby3981

    Жыл бұрын

    For real this was a bit painful

  • @lovesickgurl399
    @lovesickgurl399 Жыл бұрын

    The whole floor 12 I was like USE YOUR KOKOMI

  • @ew2dr
    @ew2dr Жыл бұрын

    i love how you just keep retrying floor 11 instead of changing the team

  • @pumpkinspica9163
    @pumpkinspica9163 Жыл бұрын

    I think a big problem aswell not only with you being too uses to having zhongli is that you never learned any attack patterns of enemies or bosses. The hydro hypostasis fight was always like that and you waited to long at the start for your set up, and it got downed again because the hydro slime blew up in its vacinity. I think a video where you learn attack patterns for bosses would be cool, and good for your play overall.

  • @rockers1025
    @rockers1025 Жыл бұрын

    Moga: It's okay, we don't need ZhongLi, we don't use ZhongLi. Diona and other shielders: 👁👄👁

  • @SammyyLuv
    @SammyyLuv Жыл бұрын

    The audible sound of you smashing the 2 key was hella relatable as a former noelle main lmao

  • @Likier86
    @Likier86 Жыл бұрын

    That was one of the most entertaining video on the channel. I'm curious about your thoughts after a month and more relatable content is always welcome.

  • @alitopeeto
    @alitopeeto Жыл бұрын

    tbh i expected moga to be better at the game considering how much time and money hes spent on it💀

  • @shapoosi2684
    @shapoosi2684 Жыл бұрын

    Not only does he not know how to dodge, he also does not pay attention to the HP bar of characters XD

  • @nora.c
    @nora.c Жыл бұрын

    as a player who doesn't rely on zhongli, this video is painful moga, other shielders exist (diona, thoma, layla) [and healers, you were really making yourself struggle in floor 11 with no healers second half] and also, for your geo team first half, you shouldn't use both noelle and itto. choose one and then throw albedo (or someone else) in for more geo particles. running a dual dps team rarely works well (gorou and bennett heal so you wouldve been fine with just itto gorou bennett albedo) and don't forget to use nahida's skill!!! you got this, hopefully april will be a period of enlightenment for you 🙏🙌

  • @mochammadzulfikaraditya6078
    @mochammadzulfikaraditya6078 Жыл бұрын

    Seeing C3 Nahida died multiple times (although having kokomi in the parties at fl12) is enough to make me cry 😢

  • @tswinteyru5812

    @tswinteyru5812

    Жыл бұрын

    Yup, seeing his C3 Nahida both struggle and die so much was as painful as that guy who converted his primos to standard fates instead of intertwined fates 💀

  • @FinnianRowland
    @FinnianRowland Жыл бұрын

    “OH MY GOD WHAT ARE THESE DUDES DOING?! I CANT EVEN MOVE!” This. This Moga. You’re so quick to blame the enemies when you’re the one that messed up in the first place. So many flaws in your game play or style or whatever. Genshin Impact is a strategy game, not spam skills and do big damage and hope to win game.

  • @stick.s
    @stick.s Жыл бұрын

    here’s some abyss teams that don’t rely on zhongli: yelan w/ sunfire jean, miko hyper carry w/ dmc, Alhaitham/miko aggravate/quicken, Alhaitham hyper bloom, hu tao double hydro double pyro, hu tao triple hydro, kaeya melt/reverse melt, ayaka freeze (2 options ayaka w/ mona or ayaka w/ koko). I’ve tested all these teams this abyss and had a lot of fun :))

  • @miseryandamity
    @miseryandamity Жыл бұрын

    How painful to watch should this be? Moga: yes

  • @vin2164
    @vin2164 Жыл бұрын

    i want zhongli for my yoimiya, but im worried my dodging skills will become non existent lmao

  • @jinougawithchocolate9329

    @jinougawithchocolate9329

    Жыл бұрын

    Well you can only have one half with Zhongli so you still need to dodge sometimes. And Yoimiya is one of the characters that are just annoying to play without a shield.

  • @mangshu21

    @mangshu21

    Жыл бұрын

    dont so that tro yourself..just get zhongli or use tankfei

  • @schnelle_gazelle

    @schnelle_gazelle

    Жыл бұрын

    If you don't use him in every team you make and only for Yoimiya in Abyss, nothing should happen

  • @emeraly2721

    @emeraly2721

    Жыл бұрын

    He isnt the only shielder ..dont feel bad for using shield characters ..enjoy the game how you want it

  • @emxryld

    @emxryld

    Жыл бұрын

    i use diona, and shes fine. especially at c6 you get a em boost and you have heals plus some melts.

  • @Custmzir
    @Custmzir Жыл бұрын

    As someone who used to have zhongli and used him on every single domain and abyss run since I got him I feel proud to say that I'm really good at dodging compared to moga

  • @pitblackbird3169
    @pitblackbird3169 Жыл бұрын

    On this episode of “Moga Forgets Healers exist”

  • @mubrek236
    @mubrek236 Жыл бұрын

    Nahida died so much to the point that hoyo will prob give you a 5 upgrade HP artifact

  • @viennymaclin5989
    @viennymaclin5989 Жыл бұрын

    After the one month of not using zhongli try not use zhongli too much to get better at dodging again. Also try to build a team that is not center around zhongli with big shield, try using a team without a healer my team hyperbloom only has xq as a healer that doesn't heal that much but It help me get better at dodging

  • @entice-6886
    @entice-6886 Жыл бұрын

    I don't know why it oddly feels satisfying for the people who rely on zhongli so much getting beaten up without his shield 😅

  • @kaylafoxx41
    @kaylafoxx41 Жыл бұрын

    The only thing in your head is damage damage damage instead of thinking about synergy and survivability. Zhongli isn't necessary. Learn to dodge, have a healer for backup. You gotta learn enemy attack patterns. Stop using shields entirely until you can survive normal stuff.

  • @kse2724
    @kse2724 Жыл бұрын

    17:30 anemo can't swirl dendro and geo, so those elements won't work on those bubbles

  • @dutudagreat9518
    @dutudagreat9518 Жыл бұрын

    Bro u could've just used a freeze team and you could've avoided all of that shit in floor 11

  • @Mz1ri
    @Mz1ri Жыл бұрын

    Here's a tip against maguu kenki always Try to hit him and there is a wall in front of you because maguu kenki back dashing not teleporting. So if he tried to back dash he can't because there's a wall behind him.

  • @JosepiThe13th
    @JosepiThe13th Жыл бұрын

    If you’re struggling to beat Abyss without Zhongli, then having him won’t change much. In fact, it’ll just make you perform even worse. I’m honestly glad you’re doing this challenge, because you NEED to stop relying on Zhongli. Hell, I’d even go so far as to say you should make it no shields at all.

  • @koltenweber805
    @koltenweber805 Жыл бұрын

    Our boi crutchin so hard on ZL he forgor how to build teams

  • @Toqrainbow
    @Toqrainbow Жыл бұрын

    very amusing video btw moga. Keep Strong!!

  • @shaadow3242
    @shaadow3242 Жыл бұрын

    Knowing you’ll have another abyss rotation without zhongli, here’s some advice, learn enemy attack patterns and learn to use bursts to give yourself i-frames

  • @zxa03
    @zxa03 Жыл бұрын

    Bro has all the 5* stars in the game and still struggling 😭

  • @berry3199
    @berry3199 Жыл бұрын

    you use zhongli because his shield is strong. i use zhongli because i am madly in love with him. we are not the same.

  • @emeraly2721

    @emeraly2721

    Жыл бұрын

    And i used zhongli becoz his son came to me for some reason ..i just wanted a tankfei

  • @kuyarence

    @kuyarence

    Жыл бұрын

    I use Zhongli mainly because of his meteor animation (I even crowned his burst)

  • @jayden911garbage9
    @jayden911garbage9 Жыл бұрын

    he just tried to infuse dendro with anemo while fighting the wenut

  • @idkuhhhhhhhhh
    @idkuhhhhhhhhh Жыл бұрын

    These types of videos always take away my motivation to do abyss😁

  • @loungeshit

    @loungeshit

    Жыл бұрын

    been playing since venti 1st rerun and never beat floor 12 bruh

  • @SmartyPoohBear

    @SmartyPoohBear

    Жыл бұрын

    Just build a rational team and a nahida hyperbloom team.

  • @scoot-_-alert9296

    @scoot-_-alert9296

    Жыл бұрын

    @@loungeshit i clear abyss pretty often but i cant get 9 stars on the 12th floor im missing a star on each chamber 😢

  • @caroisoutofline

    @caroisoutofline

    Жыл бұрын

    @@loungeshit do you want to?

  • @cryimp4571

    @cryimp4571

    Жыл бұрын

    Dw, he has skill issue. Team bulding that all u need tbh. Bloom teams, freeze team, national, double hydro team are always work in any abyss

  • @QuincyYhwach.
    @QuincyYhwach. Жыл бұрын

    Zhongli be laughing sipping his osmanthus wine while watching your video 😂😂💔

  • @nobadiishere2538
    @nobadiishere2538 Жыл бұрын

    Bro be having zhongli withdrawals

  • @Malulu010
    @Malulu010 Жыл бұрын

    The stressed tapping at the noelle swiping part awuigawufgawufgwfaugfaw im dying bhawdadgadhaw

  • @salvadorzafran7112
    @salvadorzafran7112 Жыл бұрын

    Asa non zhongli haver, investments on your healers is a must 👍

  • @justwobbie
    @justwobbie Жыл бұрын

    MOGA!!!!!!!! you seriously need to learn more about team composition because there's TONS of teams in which you don't need zhongli at all, but you really went and tried to use a full geo team without him...... you got almost all characters up to lvl 90, JUST USE YOUR OTHER CHARACTERS!!! still really enjoyed your video and i still come back to watch you every time you upload, keep it up and at least try to use some different characters here and there!!!

  • @sjin3475

    @sjin3475

    Жыл бұрын

    itto doesn't really need zhongli though. he tanks either way with a gorou in the team

  • @justwobbie

    @justwobbie

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@sjin3475 yeah I know, itto can be quite tanky with the geo shields and all the def, but out of all teams to use in this abyss, he really chose one of the teams in which zhongli specially shines best..... bruh

  • @Ryan-bt5dn
    @Ryan-bt5dn Жыл бұрын

    moga u coulda just did a freeze team for floor 11 second half

  • @Arpin_Lusene
    @Arpin_Lusene Жыл бұрын

    Alternate title : Whale actually learns the game after forever

  • @astsophia
    @astsophia Жыл бұрын

    Moga, they are others healer besides bennet you know? Like kuki, yaoyao 😅

  • @emxryld

    @emxryld

    Жыл бұрын

    its always just bennett in his mind. smh.

  • @wijinsama
    @wijinsama Жыл бұрын

    Whales: Genshin is easy! Dude, you have Zhongli and all of your 5☆s are C6...hush

  • @lucas1591

    @lucas1591

    Жыл бұрын

    Everyone says genshin is easy its not a whale thing

  • @tswinteyru5812

    @tswinteyru5812

    Жыл бұрын

    @@lucas1591 Which makes it 10x more painful seeing an actual whale struggle so hard with it lol

  • @dink174
    @dink174 Жыл бұрын

    For the hydro cube, i would recommend taking the heal from the light blue hydro slime as he spits it out to the hydro cube, it heals your active character rather than healing the hydro cube

  • @kibathefang6022
    @kibathefang6022 Жыл бұрын

    Bloom against single target that is mostly underground. I'd switch teams the first time I see I can't do it.

  • @pynconegaming
    @pynconegaming Жыл бұрын

    Moga forced to learn attack patterns

  • @grampton
    @grampton Жыл бұрын

    just a heads up, Nahida's ult is useless unless you use her E lmao also Nahida's hold E one shots all of the hydro hypostasis blobs

  • @krumi_hazuki1440

    @krumi_hazuki1440

    Жыл бұрын

    Actually, it can be used for EM SHARING (A1 PASSIVE)

  • @jammjarr3359

    @jammjarr3359

    Жыл бұрын

    Not useless, remember it buffs the active Character's EM. But yea, the majority of the use comes out of it if you use nahida's skill

  • @kuyarence

    @kuyarence

    Жыл бұрын

    You can still use Nahida's Burst tho but mainly for I-Frame

  • @1Henrink
    @1Henrink Жыл бұрын

    Cool fact Moga : The hydro cube blobs can be one shot by Nihida Hold E. Just need to "look" at all of them and once you release the E, they die.

  • @just_floppy
    @just_floppy Жыл бұрын

    Man missed on the perfect opportunity to use yae and tighnari.Nahida makes yae hit like a truck and yae allows tighnari to spread add a fischel and that's a glasscannon team.