De-gayed. 😂 Funny choice of a word Dave.

@rabinraj15

9 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@jamesrimmer2784

9 ай бұрын

Define Degayed

@Aaron-rj7bv

9 ай бұрын

@@jamesrimmer2784 De-gayed- The process by which a gay individual reverts to heterosexuality.

@Sammy_the_nana

9 ай бұрын

I thought the same thing😂

@3monsters014

9 ай бұрын

Aka Bisexual and chose a woman.

"de-gayed" reminds me of this African interview. "why are you gay?", "you are male, attracted to females, so who's gay?" 😂

@DanSmith142

9 ай бұрын

Pasta? OMG haha!

@ST-yc7uj

9 ай бұрын

​@@DanSmith142why are you GAE?

@slim1one

9 ай бұрын

Who is gae? You ah gae! 😂

@MsAndria80

9 ай бұрын

Haha “YOU AHH GAY”😂😂😂

@jeffgachihi8225

9 ай бұрын

*gae*

If you actually think that gay people can turn straight and that straight people can turn gay then I can't take you seriously at all.

@chiragrulze

8 ай бұрын

Anything is possible. All disorders can be fixed, although some are extremely difficult.

@Inc0gnit030

8 ай бұрын

@@chiragrulze First off, homosexuality isn't a disorder, it's a sexual preference. Secondly, it can't be changed. You're gay for life, just like you're straight or bi for life. Do the Internet a service and stay off of it!

@smalltownhomesteadAC

4 ай бұрын

Many people have left the gay lifestyle. Very easy to find such people. SSA may not be a choice but it may also be a result of trauma or identity developmental issues. Look it up, you may be surprised. Worst thing we ever did was tell people they were born that way.

@Inc0gnit030

4 ай бұрын

@@smalltownhomesteadAC Literally not how it works at all. Same sex attraction is not a result of trauma, or a developmental disorder. You ARE born that way and there's nothing that can be done about it nor is there anything that needs to be done about it. There may be people who "left" the gay lifestyle mostly because they're weak enough to let narrow minded idiots such as yourself shame them into thinking that it's bad. But all they're doing is lying to themselves while causing even more damage to their mental well-being.

@critiquekid200

3 ай бұрын

​@@smalltownhomesteadAC There is no correlation between homosexuality and trauma. I suggest you are actually the one who must do a research. Many gay individuals are perfectly healthy and happy and confident with themselves. It is simply a matter of personality and preferential difference on how we grew up and who we look up to and due to the constructs of our society. It is just a natural part of development. You are overthinking it too much. Just because, you are traumatized, you are more likely to be gay? That sounds like BS.

Reading these comments, it becomes apparent who Peterson's true audience is.

@johnrockyryan

7 ай бұрын

oooooohhhh yeeeesss I've known fro a while now 😂

@ronan7695

7 ай бұрын

Yeah its interesting how “anti-woke” and “anti-SJW” has evolved since 2014 (Gamergate). It used to be about things like “the woke left wants to ban video games and Halloween costumes” or they’re “offended by everything”… fair enough. There was some truth to all that. But now its like “Woke SJWs believe in equal rights for homosexuals, women, minorities etc.”. Ironically, it proves that the SJWs were right all along

@jeremywright9511

6 ай бұрын

Yep, don't even have to say it twice. So common in this current era of online discourse we ae in.

@huehuehuey

2 ай бұрын

I wonder if JP knows 🤔

@ciupenhauer

Ай бұрын

Who?

I had a gay barber who went thru conversion therapy to become straight. He thought it was working according to him but guess who I saw cruising around in a very cruise area for gay men? Uh huh

@SarahEve97

7 ай бұрын

who?

@richcampbell6808

4 ай бұрын

Your father?

@berean1703

4 ай бұрын

Lesbian professor Rosario Butterfield was saved by God out of a homosexual lifestyle. Beckett Cook is a man also saved by God out of the homosexual lifestyle. The Thessalonians in the Bible were called to repent.

@newjerseylion4804

4 ай бұрын

@@berean1703 First Beckett Cook is practicing celibacy and still is very much attracted to men. Second the science behind female and male homosexuality are different so Beckett Cook should not be compared to the Lesbian professor. Third the Bible does condemn homosexuality but endorses also chattel slavery.

@berean1703

4 ай бұрын

@@newjerseylion4804 You have listened too much to the cultural around you and you have never really looked at the biblical texts with regard to slavery. Even Satan himself twisted scripture when the tried to tempt Jesus - so you need to be smarter and wiser. It is Christianity that states that all men are image bearers of God! Therefore all humans have worth. It was the Christians in Britain (William Wilburforce) that first campaigned to pass laws to outlaw slavery. Furthermore the British Navy was founded to enforce the law to stop human slavery. As the Christianity has diminished in Britain, so corrupted and evil have increased!

Using the word “degayed” seriously in a conversation is the most unserious thing I've heard all week😂

@ranman7688

9 ай бұрын

Only because you wrongly dismiss the reality that someone can abandon a previous sexual behavior. The joke is on you.

@someguy1686

9 ай бұрын

@@ranman7688uhhh, no? Homosexuality is not a “sexual behavior”. I bet you’re a homophobic straight man commenting on something you have no idea about or experience of. Rather hypocritical.

@taylornoble8462

9 ай бұрын

doubt @@ranman7688

@bradoalfredo5203

9 ай бұрын

Nah bro, calm down. The statical likelihood of ‘the word’ is so low that it’s funny. Also it’s a unique word on a very ‘sensitive’ topic is also funny. No jokes for you i’m afraid

@cantmossadtheassad9952

9 ай бұрын

I have a buddy who in highschool couldn't really connect with women or have longstanding relationships with them, in 2021 he came out as 🏳️‍🌈 and got into a bad relationship, by 2022 he broke up with the guy, joined the coptic ☦️ church, and has successfully "de-gayed" himself and is hoping to someday marry a woman from his church which is primarily composed of immigrants from 🇪🇬 and other areas of the middle east and africa because western women are so crazy

Being homossexual is not a choice. Bigotry, false moralism and use of religion as a hidding place is.

@dharma6525

5 ай бұрын

You sound pretty bigoted 😅

@MB-nx9tq

4 ай бұрын

@@dharma6525religion is a lie. God does not exist. Jesus was a false prophet and deluded mystic. Sorry the truth hurts.

@dharma6525

4 ай бұрын

@@MB-nx9tq not that much. God can be a lot of things

@smalltownhomesteadAC

4 ай бұрын

It’s not a choice, but a result of trauma. Fix the trauma, and the desires often go away. That is what people are referring to. The LGTB lied to everyone.

@chickentoucher55

2 ай бұрын

Everyone is bigoted unless you have no ideals which is sure hope you don’t cause then your just a mess, that’s what bigotry is btw the dogmatic belief in something if you believe racism is always bad your a bigot

Peoples refusal to acknowledge bisexuality really muddies down this conversation.

@sweatbeef

26 күн бұрын

bisexuality erasure is a thing. That is our ultimate sexuality.. even the 'straightest' of them all will do some questionably g*y things under certain circumstances.. all humans possess it, even if only a slight degree.

A man in his mid 40s cycled past me on a young girl's pink bike yesterday, with stabilizers. Pink hair, in bunches, little dress on, Hello Kitty backpack... Nobody dared bat an eyelid. Weirdly, I was mentally ill during much of my youth, I drank and took drugs. It only "improved" when society became crazier than me. Now I consider myself a completely sane individual. Thanks everyone else! 😅

@wherethewildflowersare

9 ай бұрын

Sounds like Portland, Oregon lol

@johnnylebay2059

9 ай бұрын

Did that man hurt you or anybody else? Was he rude or offensive to anyone? No? Didn't think so. It only hurt your precious little feeling, you adorable snowflake.

@wilko871

9 ай бұрын

@@johnnylebay2059 Yes he is hurting people. Society is dissolving, and as long as he's acting this way he'll be no use to anyone. I have no idea why severe mental illness is being encouraged and protected by law, but you or anyone else won't convince me that this isn't wrong. It isn't his fault, I feel desperately sorry for him. He is a victim.

@johnnylebay2059

9 ай бұрын

@@wilko871 how do you know he's no use to anyone? How do you know he's not gainfully employed? How do you know he's not in a loving relationship? You don't. You're just scared of him because he dresses the way he wants to dress which is different from what you think is normal. You'll get it eventually.

@wilko871

9 ай бұрын

@@johnnylebay2059 Because he's 45 and riding a tricycle in a dress on a Tuesday afternoon. I know.

I just keep hearing Tatoo yelling, "Degayed! Degayed!"

@rainrush3484

9 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@Lori-xt2lf

9 ай бұрын

I would like to know what Jordan Peterson thinks about the “proper” role of gays in a free society given that historically, when gays become more prominent, societies often crumble, i.e. Greece, etc. please excuse me. I mean no offense. I probably didn’t word that right

@JustSara376

9 ай бұрын

😂

@josequilez

9 ай бұрын

​@@Lori-xt2lfthat was savage. As a guy who studied Greek and Roman history very nice haha

@leonharrison800

9 ай бұрын

Conservatives call it Conversion Therapy. Just hetero washing.

Do people in the comments know what bisexuality is?🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

@user-jv2lp5pn2t

3 ай бұрын

Every human being is capable of bisexuality. The fact that one identifies themselves as bi or not depends on the open-mindedness.

@brandonneumann5294

3 ай бұрын

@@user-jv2lp5pn2tevery human being is capable if they’re not in tune with Jesus. Jesus is like a healing agent. He can heal you

@failedatmakingasandwich423

2 ай бұрын

​@@user-jv2lp5pn2t No it doesn't lmao 😂

@Crimson19977

2 ай бұрын

@@user-jv2lp5pn2t I am not a bisexual, I’m interested by women only

@suave2774

2 ай бұрын

No some of us aren’t insane and don’t subscribe to these strange labels you people make up out of thin air

I'm bi, but I knew my loyalty would always be determined by who I fell in love with. And I fell in love with an amazing woman and have never looked back, being bi is still part of who I am, but I chose her.

@just2botheru

8 ай бұрын

Finding someone cute/beautiful etc vs finding someone "sexually" attractive are two different things thou. Idk you and I don't want to infer anything beyond what you posted here, and so this sounds to me like a straight man that is fine with finding other, same sex ppl, beautiful. Nothing wrong with that. Beauty and physical appearance ain't all there is anyway.

@willkane7597

8 ай бұрын

@@just2botheru That’s a reasonable response to my comment. I find it Commendable. But my opinions on. People that swing both ways when it suits them hasn’t changed.

@sam-nu6me

4 ай бұрын

@@just2botheruor he is just bisexual? I’m sure he knows his feelings better than you do. Bisexuality is very much a real thing lol

@decati31

3 ай бұрын

@@just2botheru are u dumb

@brandonneumann5294

3 ай бұрын

That’s amazing. Remember that those feelings are rooted in the fallen human nature. Jesus is like a healing agent. He can heal you of all the trauma you experienced

They’re called bisexuals

@lanehappel4291

9 ай бұрын

That's BS

@papatrudell7731

9 ай бұрын

@@lanehappel4291You think bisexuals don’t exist..?

@lanehappel4291

9 ай бұрын

@@papatrudell7731 yes

@deanazarnush884

9 ай бұрын

@@papatrudell7731 name 1 bisexual person above the age of 40

@wherethewildflowersare

9 ай бұрын

No. Jesus found them.

Dave is asking for himself 🤣

@garse70

9 ай бұрын

🤣

@keithlol

9 ай бұрын

Asking for a friend.

@FriendofDorothy

9 ай бұрын

So what??

@keithlol

9 ай бұрын

@@FriendofDorothy it’s funny.

@hawks9142

9 ай бұрын

Turn the volume up and you can probably hear him curse under his breath😄

It would make more sense for everyone else to just accept they're gay

@vhawk1951kl

9 ай бұрын

Why use the lying euphemism gay rather than homosexual, or sewerite or sewerism which is a filthy anti-natural perversion.

@brandonneumann5294

Ай бұрын

Not if goes against gods law

@BrianSmith-vl7xu

Ай бұрын

​@@brandonneumann5294 lol

@BrianSmith-vl7xu

Ай бұрын

​@@brandonneumann5294well that's got nothing to do with you then has it. You're not a god

@mr_z4n125

24 күн бұрын

@@brandonneumann5294 You've mispelled "Allah"!

You know some people can be bi too? Straight people can't choose to not be gay, but if you're bi I could see how you might be able to suppress that part of yourself since you're still genuinely attracted to the opposite gender. I wouldn't recommend it though, I'm much happier living my truth as a bi man. Denying that part of myself only caused me misery. If you feel like you have an attraction to more than just the opposite gender, you owe it to yourself to be honest with your feelings. It will set you free.

@MarioEstevez-re1us

8 ай бұрын

Please provide a shred of evidence that gay identifying men are not attracted to women? (And for the purposes of this question I am a Nazi or whatever you kids call ppl who disagree with you these days)

I've never met a person who "de-gayed" (lol what a term), but I met someone who had previously been in gay relationships who found that they were bisexual, but hetero-romantic. Meaning that they found people from both genders attractive, but only found interest in relationships with the opposite sex.

@MarioEstevez-re1us

8 ай бұрын

That genuinely made the entire world dumber

@EyebrowsGaming

6 ай бұрын

@@MarioEstevez-re1us who?

@connorscanlan2167

6 ай бұрын

​@@MarioEstevez-re1usYou guys literally believe the world was made in six days and is flat.

@MarioEstevez-re1us

6 ай бұрын

@@connorscanlan2167 I dont believe that but even if I did like LOL right? but why would that matter ? why would that make any difference if they believed that? do you believe that men can become women? if you do then you believe because someone with authority made that sh*t up and then becuase they have that authority you have decided to adopt that belief and that at that point how is that ANY DIFFERENT then believing something in the Bible?and Ill help you out --it's not . but please tell me why I'm wrong. please tell me pretty please

@connorscanlan2167

6 ай бұрын

@@MarioEstevez-re1us So you have no idea what gender is. I'll let you in on a secret: this has been around since before the time of the Buddha. I know your kind think the Bible was written in English and Adam and Eve were created in America, but I promise you the world has existed for longer than you think.

It is strange to tell a therapist they can’t question their clients beliefs about themselves, because the whole reason you go to a therapist is because you want to change your mental state. I.E. I feel or think this way, and I want to feel or think differently. It’s either conversion or it isn’t working.

@DarknessIsThePath

9 ай бұрын

A mental state is not the same as identity.

That was the most eloquent way to say “a very horny and forward gay man sexually harassed a simpleton into thinking he’s gay” 😂😂

@drooskie9525

3 ай бұрын

It was a 14 year old guy in the most chaotic stages of puberty. the gay guy hitting on him was probably trying to "convert" him.

Pay attention. The easily most important part of this, before it gets nonsensical and bitter, is when he simply answers "no"

Vast numbers of people fluctuate in sexual orientation over the course of a lifetime. I went out with a girl who was gay until she was mid 20s. Then she had therapy to help her heal from early childhood sexual abuse at the hands of a man…..thereafter she has only been with men. Past traumatic experiences (affecting a person or their parents or grandparents) can very much affect sexual preferences and behaviors. The usually subconscious consequences of prior trauma on subsequent behavior is a vast black hole in JPs discourse

@NothingHereForYou

8 ай бұрын

he would probably really agree with this point too

@vleaky3430

8 ай бұрын

It COULD but that's not always the case. Plenty of straight people who grew up without fathers or were abused and still attracted to the opposite gender and plenty of gays were not abused and have same sex attraction. Whats next, GaY fROG eXpEriMenT?

@No_name860

Ай бұрын

I agree with you 100% but JP is probably not allowed to talk about it, because the alphabet mafia would attack even more than they do now.

I did! A very close family friend. He literally became straight, got married to a woman, genuinely speaks in favour of how one can become straight with the correct interventions and spiritual help. These are his words, by the way. So yes, I have met someone who successfully "de-gayed". Edit: Too many comments to reply to each individually 😅 All I want to say is: 1. I believe we're all entitled to our own opinions. You do you. And I *will* do me. 2. It does shock me, however, to see how many people believe you can change your whole gender but somehow you can't change the gender you're attracted to. That seems quite inconsistent to me. 3. For people who believe one should be entitled to live out one's own sexuality, it's strange to see how people refuse to believe the man I speak of has chosen to turn away from being gay. It's like you so badly want him to stay in the Alphabet club, you cannot accept that *he* feels otherwise about *his own life*. Strange. 4. My comment is definitely not a lie 😊 He was also a former drug addict. He now runs a rehabilitation programme. I'm sure you'll have no problem believing he could change that major part of himself, but you somehow have a problem believing he could change his sexuality. 5. I wish that the LGBTQ+ club would accept that not everyone is for them without turning all opposition into an enemy. By you being for it, means that you oppose my value system. I don't consider you an enemy for that. I really believe we can live harmoniously in spite of our opposition, so long as you don't try to force me into conforming to your views. Let's not turn all things into a war. Okay, that's it from me, boys and girls. Thank you to the people who believe someone can change. I'm sure we've all been at a point in our lives where we wished to change in some way or the other for the better. Don't take that privilege away from someone else. This is his better.

@ChrisMinusHumour

9 ай бұрын

What a poor woman that married him. I wonder if she knows. Many people try to live in denial and spread their misery by telling others they can go back in the closet too. See how happy they are in 5 years. It will be a trainwreck of a marriage.

@justtam321

9 ай бұрын

@ChrisMinusHumour I knew there would be someone who would say something like this, but I posted it anyways, because despite your negative heart, there are people who turn away from something they believed they were trapped in, and they feel free for it. They've been together for over 13 years 😊

@ChrisMinusHumour

9 ай бұрын

​ @tamlynadolph183 The longer they are together, the sadder I feel for the wife. Keeping a wife just to avoid perceived humiliation is pretty cruel. If he feels free propping up a false family to cover up his sexual orientation, go ahead. It is not sustainable but live in misery if you wish. I noticed you didn't mention any children, I bet that will be a difficult hurdle for any closetted gay man.

@justtam321

9 ай бұрын

@ChrisMinusHumour Two children, very happy at that. Not closeted at all. Everyone knew he *was* gay. I understand it must be difficult for you to understand. Especially when if you wish it was not possible for people to change. I'm sorry you feel that way and pray that you find your own healing. Be blessed.

@ChrisMinusHumour

9 ай бұрын

@@justtam321 Oh no, the poor children also. They will all be devastated when the family breaks up. He can't go back in the closet forever. This man is certainly in the closet with a beard wife and kids. Very sad situation. I can certainly understand. It is a very general statement that I don't think people can change. Changing inherant parts of your psychology is not possible as Jordan Peterson said. The evidence of reality indicates sexual orientation cannot be changed. I hope you find help for your religious fanaticism and gullible beliefs.

I had a uncle who actually was gay and at 40 got married and have children now he is 80 and happily married

@garrett3726

8 ай бұрын

So he is bisexual

@Andrewizner

8 ай бұрын

@@garrett3726or, he changed. It’s just crazy that your worldview doesn’t allow for things that you emotionally disagree with.

@ManLikeChesh

8 ай бұрын

​@@AndrewiznerYou cant change sexuality, thats a known fact. Look at gay conversion therapy, it only makes gays become abstinent. The American education system is terrible based on these comments. About 10% of all mammal species are gay, you ggods made it normal.

@cool_monke8355

8 ай бұрын

​@@Andrewizner if a person feels attraction to the same gender up to 40s then Maries an opposite gender it's most probable of them being bi. Because no one would willingly go through struggles of gay people just to mary a woman.

@thehamster2301

8 ай бұрын

​@@Andrewizneryou can't change who you are attracted to you can just choose not to act on it.

A friend's uncle felt ssa for a number of men as a teenager and young adult but decided never to act on it. ended up marrying three times to women (widowed twice, for cancer and a car accident), had 8 kids total.

@ChristoferKelly

9 ай бұрын

8 children ?! That's one hell of a carbon footprint he's responsible for.

@christianlassen1577

9 ай бұрын

@@ChristoferKelly really?? that's the direction your mind goes during THIS conversation? really? turns out, the more people who're living on this planet at a time, the less we die of terrible deaths from weather or warfare or even awful disease. the better life gets for everyone the bigger our population grows. the more we can help each other make and build and grow and cure. overpopulation is a stupid myth perpetuated by people who hate themselves.

@intrusive-th0t

7 ай бұрын

That’s called being bisexual

@Imitatechrist

2 ай бұрын

@@ChristoferKelly Even though it's sarcasm it seems out of place. You put your finger on a trigger to me. 😆

@shahbaziab6584

2 ай бұрын

so is he straight completely now?

this is fascinating to me, I'm not gay but I am an addict so I have to deny myself every day to be socially acceptable and to "get on" in life. It's much easier since I found my faith in God ❤

@northernlights27

9 ай бұрын

Same ❤️🙏

@believer80

9 ай бұрын

@@northernlights27 ❤🙏

@kiwimastermind4063

8 ай бұрын

@@believer80 are you denying yourself of the people you're attracted to tho? Not kink shaming tho bro

@jst2708

8 ай бұрын

Focus on the family , a Christian organization, has a ministry just for people who want to come out of the gay lifestyle. Those who work there are people who have succeeded in this struggle. I'm not judging just wanting to offer helping needed.

@vhawk1951kl

8 ай бұрын

What exactly are you calling god?

Therapists don’t push their own political views in their clients

@reginamemoriesforever-vc8ql

9 ай бұрын

Since when questioning is the equivalent of pushing an agenda on someone?

@jdlk-ny5yo

9 ай бұрын

@@reginamemoriesforever-vc8ql he is outspokenly biased against transgenders, he should not be providing therapy to them

@robertbusek30

9 ай бұрын

​@@reginamemoriesforever-vc8qlSince therapists like Peterson started questioning the norms under which they are forced to operate.

@humantacos9800

9 ай бұрын

They do all day long. You mean they shouldn’t

@Adrian-yi8fl

9 ай бұрын

They shouldn't anyway. But in both Canada and the US they are legally obligated to. They will lose their license if they don't push the prevailing political view, regardless of whether or not the therapist holds that view.

He forgot to preface with “asking for a friend”

One of my wife’s family friends was gay, and no one was surprised when he came out after high school. He and my wife grew up like siblings until middle school. He had many long term relationships through the years and when he was about 30-35 he kind of dropped off the grid for awhile. About a year later he contacted my wife and invited us to his wedding. We all assumed it was to another man, Nope. He had been dating a woman and had a 2 month old daughter. We were all confused and he told my wife he had never been more happy than he was with her and their daughter. He talks to my wife a lot, she finally asked him what happened and what changed. He said that he was at work and his now wife became very close friends and found himself attracted to her in ways he never felt before. He actually told my wife he is repulsed by his past relationships. Not sure why this happened and I guess he was “degayed” lol.

@T26OG.

6 ай бұрын

The man is just bisexual and confused.

@freegracerevival

6 ай бұрын

Sin and it’s consequences

@Ervin-nr7lj

5 ай бұрын

​@@freegracerevivalget over yourself... are you gay?

@goofy6267

5 ай бұрын

bro thats bisexual. he just didn't discover.

@lerapol

5 ай бұрын

So a bisexual man then... Okay

I know several gay people 1 girl and 1 guy both gay for a decade. The girl stated she was straight after a decade and the guy got married and is so in deep love with his wife

@georgeschroeder6353

10 ай бұрын

Thats a strange story to tell your wife. But if she loves you it is what it is.

@chokeonad

10 ай бұрын

probably an act

@nuknukisdead

10 ай бұрын

Might just be bi.

@colinstock325

10 ай бұрын

@@nuknukisdeadthere are countless instances of people who believe they are straight. They marry, have kids and then realise they are gay. If they are famous the gutter press destroys their character and treats the wife and kids as victims. Why do you find it difficult to believe the opposite can also happen?

@Renewed85

10 ай бұрын

Why an act and why bi? Why not straight??

I have been successful, solely with the Holy Spirit's assistance, in discarding what can be described as my gay identity. I now identify solely as a Christian.

@ChrisMinusHumour

9 ай бұрын

Hahaha you traded a sexual orientation for a religious belief. The reality is denial and Christianity but you can focus on the religious aspect if that helps you through life. Are you magically attracted to women now?

@paulg6274

9 ай бұрын

You're still gay, you know it. God is just a construct. Forget that mess and be yourself

@afribear

9 ай бұрын

@@paulg6274 You're confusing the word 'gay' with same-sex attraction, which I come across from time to time but don't act on as gay people do. I am very much myself, a content, happy person and don't have time to waste on frivolous endeavours. I have known God for all my life and find it sad that you view Him as a social construct. The gay lifestyle is a great mess and you know it. Getting to know God involves order and a whole lot of positive things, love being over-arching.

@Rosie33Sophia

9 ай бұрын

@@afribearBut if you love someone how are you just supposed to ignore that? That’s sad

@afribear

9 ай бұрын

@@Rosie33Sophia you are being presumptuous. My personal experience of gay relationships showed me many times that it's a poor copy of what love should be. THAT is sad. I love my life, I am fulfilled and have never been happier.

Little Richard. And he was vocal about it and wanted people to know it's possible and a choice. And he had intensely gay traits in is manner and style.

@user-pq7jj3vs3e

8 ай бұрын

Gay traits in his manner…lol who talks like that

@jeremywright9511

6 ай бұрын

@@user-pq7jj3vs3e A Liar that's who.

For anyone who doubts the "born this way" narrative, research Dr. Joseph Nicolosi's discussions of his casework. Hone in on the part where he describes how the APA systematically refused to view his casework because it would offend gay activists. Btw, I'm 100% for same-sex attracted people being involved with any consenting adult, and I support their safety and dignity. However, I _hate_ suppression of information.

Nothing wrong with loving someone of your own gender, but there is something wrong with denying the gender you were born as

@abubaytnighan6480

Ай бұрын

Good thing no one does that

@oscarcyber3308

Ай бұрын

99% of homosexuals dont deny their gender yet they receive 90% of the hate thats misdirected towards them

I was till Jesus came into my life and it’s been 5 years now!

@ShepardfortheLord

10 ай бұрын

Similar experience 🙏

@jasonjames6870

10 ай бұрын

You still are

@ca8547

10 ай бұрын

@@ShepardfortheLord keep thy crown brother in The Lord!

@ShepardfortheLord

10 ай бұрын

@@ca8547Thanx bro, will do 😇

@user-bs2cw2tw5l

9 ай бұрын

​@@jasonjames6870If delivered from demonic spirits of homosexuality & healed of other underlying reasons for sexual identity confusion e.g. sexual abuse, lack of nurturing relationship with father etc, then can be set free.

Yep. My son in-law had a child with my daughter and then a gay guy came on to him really strong and convinced him he was gay because he wanted him. My youngest daughter's first love left her for another girl, then got friend-zoned by her because she "decided" she wanted to be gay and led him down the path of transgenderism. He was seeing a therapist who convinced him to become a girl and he shot himself because not everyone would accept his decision. This was a kid who told me that could only happen to the weak minded. Peer pressure ends young lives. I miss that kid, and I hate these people for turning our kids inside out. We all used to talk about how everyone knows their sexuality already, because even babies get crushes on people. We've all seen it.

@KD400_

9 ай бұрын

Anyone with a brain knows that we are designed perfectly. 1 man and 1 women. Nothing more nothing less. Lgbt is the new social experiment on 21st century human beings. Every generation had a social experiment in the 60s it was birth control racism etc.

I have a lesbian friend that gave up the life to be asexual. I also have gay friends that lead completely functioning lives as a couple.

@athsumerius6865

7 ай бұрын

This is a joke right?

@keaveth1345

5 ай бұрын

athsumerius cant wrap his head around this concept

@goofy6267

5 ай бұрын

People can be lesbian and asexual. Romantically attracted but not seeking sex

@andybray9791

4 ай бұрын

Asexual isn’t mentioned that much

@matthew8153

4 ай бұрын

@@andybray9791 Asexual is mentioned all the time under its clinical name: depression.

“And went on to live a completely functioning life” did I hear that part right?

@glitchkitten4753

9 ай бұрын

Was waiting for this, that part made me laugh. 😅

@KinskyReggae1

9 ай бұрын

Astounding ignorance. Jordan Peterson is this biggest fraud getting around these days.

@Gee-xb7rt

9 ай бұрын

Dave Rubin's high level ideas, we are just too small to understand.

@froreyfire

9 ай бұрын

Sure you did. That's why someone goes to a psychotherapist, right? Because they have problems. Completely functioning just means that they have their problems under control. Whether or not the same thing would also be a major problem for something else or not is irrelevant.

@Matyunkin

9 ай бұрын

I guess he means, that it wasn't some unhealthy supression of sexuality, like some traumatizing types of conversion therapy.

I read an article a few years ago where two men said they used to be homosexual but through conventional therapy eventually their attraction to men decreased and they developed a new attraction for women, resulting in them being attracted to both sexes, but with a stronger attraction to women than men.

@shahbaziab6584

2 ай бұрын

may i ask what was their name?

@Lestibournes

2 ай бұрын

@@shahbaziab6584 the article kept their identity hidden.

I have absolutely witnessed people who's sexual preference was the same sex and when they gave their life to Jesus they chose through His strength and cleansing and all things new, to turn their thoughts from that and be what they were born at birth and be much much more at peace🙌🏻 True story✝️

@vhawk1951kl

9 ай бұрын

Yo notice the lengths to which you go avoid using the apt term homosexual?

@SWLinPHX

8 ай бұрын

People are born gay. You don't seem to get that.

@vhawk1951kl

8 ай бұрын

@@SWLinPHX For people to be*born* homosexual there would have to be a homsexual gene and tere is *not*, so they are not. It may be that some are born predisposed to being easily perverted but nobody could possibly be *born* homsexual and I notice that you avoid the truthful term homosexual so use the lying euphemism 'gay' because you are ashamed of your perversion as are all paraphiliacs; why else would you employ a lying euphemism(and *all* euphemisms are lies)?

@vhawk1951kl

8 ай бұрын

@@SWLinPHX It simply*cannot possibly* be true that anyone is ever born homosexual, because homosexuality, is completely and utterly pointless, which is why buggery and sodomy are completely unknown in animals

@starcatcherksp1517

8 ай бұрын

Search up bisexuality lol

My friend was gay and God delivered him.

@cathalgarvey

8 ай бұрын

Delivered him a hot guy???

@deanj.9324

8 ай бұрын

That's awesome!

@burtonkrichard8898

8 ай бұрын

Ew. You can’t stop being gay. It’s impossible. That would require someone to choose gay which again is impossible.

@craigg5410

8 ай бұрын

Your friend is still secretly gay.

@skitzmfff2351

8 ай бұрын

Tell me, why the fuck would God care about that? People are raping and torturing each other every day but God cares about people being gay? This is such a non-issue. Stop acting like being gay is some kind of destructive disease or something. Get some sense

I am a 29 year old who has gone through this. I’ve “De-gayed” and I’ve never been happier. It’s truly a miracle. It’s the best thing that has happened to me. In hindsight, homosexual urges and relationships felt miserable compared to heterosexual ones. I can’t imagine ever being with a guy again. Life can finally begin.

@vhawk1951kl

8 ай бұрын

This homosexuality business. I'll never understand it, Is it quite polite to ask, Which one is the arse, And which the bandit?

@bobsmith5441

5 ай бұрын

Hmmm do I believe this

@sync2597

5 ай бұрын

Then you most likely were never gay to begin with

@fdpcompdm

5 ай бұрын

You can't do that bro! You were bi and had a bigger inclination for women in the end! ok cool but don't say you were homosexual and now you are straight. I just hope you are not in denial and miserable

@jozefmasny8349

5 ай бұрын

You were most likely confused bisexual, not a gay.

Bisexuality is a thing. Probably the most common sexuality

@jasonhaiflich8967

Ай бұрын

Lmao being straight is the most common

@jasonhaiflich8967

Ай бұрын

Lmao being straight is the most common by far

Bisexuality exists. Not for most people tho….

@brandonneumann5294

3 ай бұрын

Those are people are dealing with deep trauma. Remember Jesus can heal you. He’s like a healing age t

@Jojo-vo4cu

3 ай бұрын

There's no way for you to know that most people aren't bisexual. No proof of this idea that most people are 100% hetero

@No_name860

Ай бұрын

Wrong. Sexual fluidity is a thing and a very well researched thing. By the way it’s not bisexuality, it is different. Bi is where you can go either way at any time, sexual fluidity is where you are completely gay but your preference change to straight, or completely straight to gay. It could also be being bi and then after time becoming completely straight or completely gay.

What? But I always hear about Jordan being a fascist alt-right bigot. He’s not defending conversion therapy? He had gay patients? It almost sounds like he’s moderate and normal

I know a gay man who successfully "de-gayed". He's now married to a woman and has 2 children. He describes is as being a recovered alcoholic.

@vichomangiola

9 ай бұрын

Interesting, considering that for many recovered alcoholics the desire is still there but they just learn how to supress it. So no, being married and having children doesn't say anything about your sexual attractions.

@riley1774

9 ай бұрын

hopefully he was just bisexual and chose to marry a woman, instead of a man? it’s impossible to change sexuality but many people do try to suppress it. it wasn’t uncommon back then for homosexual men and women to force themselves into heterosexual relationships - i don’t understand why a modern man or woman would do this though.. if he’s 100% homosexual then i feel very sorry for his wife 😬

@mjribes

9 ай бұрын

@@vichomangiola But it says a lot about your moral convictions.

@felinesmite5170

9 ай бұрын

Your sexual orientation only refers to whom your feel sexually and romantically attracted to. People can choose to ignore their feelings of sexual and romantic attraction for a variety of reasons, but that doesn't change their sexual identity. An heterosexual guy who decides to be a priest and takes his vows of chastity may choose to never touch sexually a human being again and to never nurture any romantic feelings, but that doesn't make him any less heterosexual. The guy you know may have chosen to never engage in sexual or romantic behavior with other men, and he may very well find that choice to be worth the pain and struggle, because with it he gained a family he loves. But not following up on his feelings and desires doesn't make them less real, and living with a woman and having sex with her doesn't mean he genuinely and passionately loves her romantically and feels physically attracted to her. Humanity has had - and still has - hundreds of cultures in which not marrying a person of the opposite gender and having children is simply not an option; millions of homosexual people were and are pressured into arranged heterosexual marriages, including hundreds of nobles and royals that HAD to produce heirs whether they like it or not - like Edward II of England that had multiple homosexual long term partners but still manage to do his duty and have 4 children with his wife. And heterosexual people are known to develop homosexual relationships in contexts were they habmve no contacts with people from the opposite gender for a very long time - because it's human to still crave physical and emotional intimacy. The question we should be asking is whether we want a society in which people primarily marry for love and everyone deserves a shot at choosing a spouse the are in love with and attracted to; or whether we want a society in which we marry primarily for other reasons - like financial stability and child rearing. 'Conversion therapy' is only worthwhile in the second kind od society.

@supermegaawesomeultragal7820

9 ай бұрын

Lies. It's not a choice.

I did. He was a friend older than me that traveled and came back with a wife and kids

@shahbaziab6584

2 ай бұрын

is he actually completely straight?

@javierechezarreta4623

2 ай бұрын

@@shahbaziab6584 well seems like that.. who knows.. in his youth he was homosexual as it can get. Hanging out with truck drivers in rest areas.. then he suffer and episode were 2 o 3 guys in the route hurt him with a wooden stick truck drivers use to measure the tyres. After that he travelled out of town for some years until came back with a wife and kids..

@shahbaziab6584

2 ай бұрын

@@javierechezarreta4623 well he could be bisexual or in closet, he shold say what he is

@shahbaziab6584

2 ай бұрын

@@javierechezarreta4623 and now he claims he is completely straight?

@annjen8405

2 ай бұрын

Bisexual people exist

JP there, never missing an opportunity to be transphobic and play the victim. He's consistent, I'll give him that.

@No_name860

Ай бұрын

How the hell is he being transphobic exactly?

@JacquesDeLeon

Ай бұрын

He has literally made a career out of it, sis. Alluding to gender affirming surgery as conversion therapy is so fucking insulting i hardly know where to begin.

@misty1921

26 күн бұрын

He is pissed cuz children are being mutilated and sterilized all in the name of inclusion and/or acceptance and we arent supposed to be appalled, outraged, or even question the idea. It seems to me that its the so-called "progressives" are the real bigots. As adults, do whatever you want. But when CHILDREN are taking hormone blockers, having their bodies cut on and mutilated, ensuring they will never have children....all before they can firmly know who they are or what they want in life is when all of this has gone to far. We don't allow children to drink alcohol, buy nicotine, gets tattoos, have sex, move out on their own, or even get piercings w/o written parental concent.....because we know scientifically, neurologically, emotionally, and psychologically they are immature and inept at making rational decisions for their overall wellbeing, but sure let little Timmy cut his dick off and poor Susie get a double mastectomy all before their brains and identity have solidified. Hell ive seen insane parents say their child is neither male or female at birth because they are allowing them to make that decision. The entire woke movement should be deemed and called out for exactly what it is....clinically insane and mentally unstable. I support adults (over 25) that have decided to live life as a transvestite but no one should ever accept, acknowlegde nor affirm a child trying to do the same. Our world is demonic (I'm not even a very religious person) but any sane, rational, logical and common sense bearing person knows this shit is abhorrent and fundamentally immoral. If you truly believe and feel you were "born in the wrong body" you need intense therapy to figure out why you can't love yourself and what has created such a disconnect from who and what you are. It's a mental illness, period. Ultimate form of insecurity and self hatred.

Yes I have - he was close to 50 when he met a woman, got married was completely contented.

Jordan personally hasn't seen anyone go from gay to straight. But there are plenty of examples right here on KZread. I personally listened to a radio interview with a guy who used to be gay. He was a strong gay advocate and was the head of the LGBT movement in his university. He said he had to visit a councillor on one occasion and the meeting with the councillor took an unexpected twist. They got into the subject of his childhood and events that took place then. He said the more counciling he got and the more he discussed troubling events when he was younger, the less "gay" he started feeling. At the time of the radio interview, about 10 years after he left university, he was happily married to his wife and they had children. He says he no longer has any gay feelings or urges at all.

@johnnoon9999

8 ай бұрын

It happens all the time. in fact most grow out of it before ever adopting the lgbt identity. we just dont talk about it cause the second you say you no longer have such urges at all, both fervent anti gay and pervent pro gay people shame us saying "whattt you used to be a f*g" then dont wanna be friends or "oh honey stop it youre a total queen. dont deny your identity!" its disgusting. its insane that while salvation is totally possible, not only no one wants it, but they hate to see others have it too.

@daanper8994

7 ай бұрын

​@@johnnoon9999Could you please show me One single scientific evidence about Simeone changing his/her sexual orientation?

@smalltownhomesteadAC

4 ай бұрын

@@daanper8994You just need to listen to the people themselves, why do you need scientific research?

@smalltownhomesteadAC

4 ай бұрын

I think SSA and Androgeny are symptoms of childhood sexual abuse, early sexualization or a weak male/female identity. The entire movement was started by people who have no sexual boundaries, look up Moira Greyland.

@unkind6070

4 ай бұрын

I'm gay and I know it's impossible 👍🏻

I’ve never known anyone who “de gayed” per se, but I have known people who have had homosexual experiences and relationships and went on to get married and live a traditionally heterosexual lifestyle without any issue. It’s honestly not that weird, IMO. People grow and change all the time.

@Ihatetravelling

8 ай бұрын

Do you know how many straight women and men who had never had at least one homosexual sign in their lives came out as gay at 25 or at their late 30s and lived as gay for the rest of their lives?Search coming out at 25 or even 30 after being married to a man or woman and only liking the opposite gender!Noones 100% straight!Most straight people don't know what they want till they Are 30 just because they suppress their emotions because they fear society!So search that and tell me how many lesbians and gay men you saw coming out even after 10 years of being married to the opposite sex!"straight" is outdated!Most of you will find out you are bi or gay at some point in your life! It's just a fear that's stopping you that you'll get past later in your life,when society becomes more inclusive and accepting! It's just a matter of time because i have seen tons of "" 100% straight people""realise they are gay later in life and live their gay best life after that!So you should stop coming for gay people because that might be you later in life

@vleaky3430

8 ай бұрын

Yes it's called being biesexual or curious. Not that deep and far more common than you religious creatures think.

@lowenbad

8 ай бұрын

@@vleaky3430 I’m not religious at all.

@sam-nu6me

4 ай бұрын

It’s almost as if you can like both men and women?? Also, experimentation is fine and normal

@kylekozak3033

3 ай бұрын

@@vleaky3430You don’t have to be religious to believe that.

I know of many persons who have rejected homosexual inclinations. Their motivation was spiritual above all other reasons.

I know of two men (who happen to be in my country) who were gay, then changed, went straight, got married to women, had children, and still lead straight lives. One is an artist, the other owned a dance school. I alo know someone who was straight, married twice, had three kids, and when in his 60's turned gay and moved in with a man.

@prettychords

22 күн бұрын

That man is likely bisexual his whole life and did not "turn gay".

@marcel13091975

22 күн бұрын

@@prettychords I wouldn't know.

@marcel13091975

21 күн бұрын

All I do know, is what I've experienced for myself: before I reached puberty, I was completely ignorant about sexuality. I was a boy, and grew up with only boys, and girls were gross, and then the puberty switch webt on: all I could think of was girls. Until then, just mentioning anything remotely in the direction of sex was forbidden, and no one ever abused me, and apart from seeing only straight adult couples, no one ever told me that I had to like girls or have relations with them. Children are extremely easy to influence, and at that age, any suggestions, no matter how subttle, will influence thought pattern. Just look how many adult transgenders there are who regrets having tranformed. Sad thing is, no child today can experience the innocence I grew up with becuase they are atracked by influencersand molesters, and therefore their parents have to arm them against it at a very young age by teaching them about things they shouldn't be concerned with. Very sad.

I don't know anyone who de-gay-ed and lived a successful life but i know many people who de-straight-ed and are living very successful and happy lives

@vichomangiola

9 ай бұрын

@@ApollosHagman_17 Why are you choosing to sourround yourself with these people?

@fredricks8701

9 ай бұрын

​@@ApollosHagman_17i know adults who decided to engage in sex with Christians. That's just like having sex with animals

@No_name860

Ай бұрын

I find it hilarious that you people think it’s possible to change but only from straight to gay right?? You people are truly clowns.

I de gayed. It’s a choice. I chose it for years, gave my life to Christ and married a woman.

@S.G.W.Verbeek

Ай бұрын

❤

@Kevin-tt5ey

25 күн бұрын

Praise the Lord for you my brother!

@FatalS420

24 күн бұрын

Rofl

@mr_z4n125

24 күн бұрын

@@Kevin-tt5ey Inshallah, praise Allah, the one and only TRUE god!

@beakerface

11 күн бұрын

You must be really miserable tho?

It's a telling misdirection by Peterson who had an opportunity to just honestly answer a question even though he didn't love his own answer. But he moves onto creating controversy at lightning speed, instead of just living in the question at hand, living in that truth and exploring it.

sexuality is malleable in the sense that you can create or diminish attraction but eliminating it entirely is functionally impossible.

I have a good friend who was a lesbian for over 20 years. She decided on her own she wanted out. Got counseling and went straight and has never looked back. It’s been nearly 20 years. Or there’s Rosaria Butterfield. I heard counselors talking before that for a segment of gay men, when you deal with their father issues from childhood, their same sex attraction just goes away. It’s definitely not unheard of. But of course, the militia does not want this out there. They want you to think change is impossible, as if it’s in your DNA. It’s not.

@SNP2082

8 ай бұрын

Well studies do show DNA influences it significantly. Same with other biological factors like prenatal envionrment, birth order, brain structure. So biology does play a large role. Also conversion therapy had been practiced for centuries and research shows that it is highly ineffective. In some cases, sexuality especially among women does spontaneously change though it's not due to voluntary actions. Also your friend could just be bisexual. If we ran a brain scan on her, she probably would still show arousal to women

@edluke3415

8 ай бұрын

​@@SNP2082 the majority of homosexuals were SA'd as children, it's inconvenient to the lgbtq cult but they know it's the truth

@MP-ky3hc

8 ай бұрын

​@@SNP2082Shane Gillis put it best in his special (as a joke with some truth). Basically he said being gay may not be a choice; but when you look at groups who have a hard time with choices (mentally challenged), you rarely see one who doesn't love the ladies. 😂

@kevinskipp2762

8 ай бұрын

Lol, that’s not evidence of what you think it is. If you have deep seated desires to be straight from moral beliefs then you can brainwash yourself into being whatever you want. In ancient Greece it was considered normal and even desirable and societal standards meant adult men would pair up with young boys in homosexual relationships - left to their own devices these men would not have had these desires but societal norms meant that otherwise “straight” men were clearly pressured to be gay. Gay child abusers even. Your sexual attractions are not choices or logical deductions - you like who you like. Your friend just brainwashed herself. You shouldn’t need counselling or need to work hard to be attracted to someone. Unless it’s not real

@jessicagorski8460

8 ай бұрын

When you are talking about desire-people can desire all sorts of things. People can change their taste buds. People become aroused by fetishes, which are clearly not natural-50 shades of unnatural…or more. I’m not saying same sex attraction is a fetish, but I am saying that those who think you cannot change your preference for certain things really really doubt the power of the human psyche. It is not easy, no doubt-but a human through the power of their mind can decide to eat only meat one day, eat this way for ages, and then turn around and become strict vegan and be completely repulsed by animal products. Their are ways to tame the desires of the body-and good thing, we can’t accept as a society the idea people are so controlled by their impulses and urges that we permit something like rape or pedophilia, or beastiality. We can observe many things as human scientist, but we are still pretty bad at understanding attraction at even a basic level (which is easily observable by the evidence).

1 Corinthians 6:9-11 "... and such WERE some of you ..." Past tense, so some of the Corinthian Christians had formerly been homosexual and had repented.

@Ricocossa1

8 ай бұрын

Because every word of the Bible is demonstrably true. Especially the parts about the Earth being 6000 years old and all that.

@EWTCNewsPodcast

8 ай бұрын

The Holy Spirit can transform hearts. I’ve seen it more than JP has!

@Konxovar0

8 ай бұрын

@@Ricocossa1 The Bible doesn't claim that and the patriarchal ages are clearly chosen for narrative purpose. From Adam to Moses they add up to 12,600, a numerologically important number to the Hebrews. Back in that time, actually recording literal ages wouldn't have fit into their cultural practices.

@Ricocossa1

8 ай бұрын

The point being if we're going to pick and choose which passages to interpret literally, then we can't refer to the bible to claim that homosexuality can be “cured.” You can't have your cake and eat it too.@@Konxovar0

@Ricocossa1

8 ай бұрын

Or in simpler terms, I think it makes more sense to listen to a psychologist over such matters than to base our whole understanding of homosexuality on one interpretation of one word in one sentence in a book, no matter the religion you may prefer.@@Konxovar0

well there are many "gays" who met the Lord and changed their lives . All you have to do is search the internet

@daanper8994

7 ай бұрын

Search the internet ahahahahah Is your IQ really THAT slow?

Yes there are men who followed their homosexual desires who are now choosing to say no to that sin and follow Christ. There are many actually.

So who is gae?

Transgender people don't change their sexual orientation, just their gender

@smalltownhomesteadAC

4 ай бұрын

They don’t change their gender, just their look.

I know a few female friends that were lez back in the day but went to men and never looked back. But I've also had a couple friends that were hetero, had been married, had kids, and went lez much later in life. All of my male friends that were gay still are. But a couple of them were switch hitters to begin with so still go back and forth.

Rosaria butterfield, former lesbian queer studies professor, became a Christian and went straight, married a man and had kids. Would LOVE to see Dave interview her. Or Jordan

@Jayremy89

8 ай бұрын

It seems to be quite different with women. Plenty of gay men I've seen. Their being gay is so ingrained into their psychology and physiology. Their attraction to women is at best, forced for normalcy. Meanwhile, women who are lesbian, usually it's of some negative experience or trauma with men and they simply can never or strong averse to ever going back to men. That, or they have this sort of label or symbolism that they feel being lesbian is challenging a wrongness they feel in the world, and heavily commit to it. Others are like transgender people, they are butch females, masculine and feel they need to emulate a man in every way including being into women, and these women never seemed authentic... when me as a man gets flirted, molested and hit on by supposed lesbians. Very few lesbians I seen just be authentically so, vs gay men, who the vast majority are unquestionably so. Sure a lot of bisexual people confuse being one or the other too... again.

@vhawk1951kl

8 ай бұрын

Who told you that"osaria butterfield, former lesbian queer studies professor, became a Christian and went straight, married a man and had kids," and why do you believe them?Just naturally passive and credulous or american?

@notslucis9977

8 ай бұрын

So she probably bisexual cool story. 😅

@LordFindecano

8 ай бұрын

@@vhawk1951klit’s in her autobiography. Dunking on Americans while too stupid to perform a google search… lmao

@LordFindecano

8 ай бұрын

@@Jayremy89I would say homosexuality can almost always be traced back to some form of childhood trauma, whether male or females

Well,I have a friend who was sexually abused when he was a boy and ended up as a homosexual crossdresser. Once he had some kind of epiphany while listening to a priest. He says he had to struggle with those unwanted desires,that he finally abandoned that lifestyle,enrolled in law school and have been married for the last 15 years. He and his wife have now two children. How come a man can become a "woman" but a gay man cannot decide and become a straight one if he so wishes?

@coasteyscoasteys4150

9 ай бұрын

Carlos It's hormones Mental issues or lost sight of reality Society and social media encouraging it saying its ok when it's not Potentially something in the food/ water source (don't laugh maybe true)

@dimitritome5118

8 ай бұрын

most of the times gay men who "become" straight haven't really changed their sexualities. they simply went back into the closet to fit in society due to external pressures. it's not a coincidence that 9 times out of 10, it has to do with religious doctrine first and foremost

@monicanavarro2906

8 ай бұрын

Because you can only go one way -> deviant and insane. Try to heal your mind and soul and suddenly you're "repressed" and "denying your true identity."

@joshhendricks8165

8 ай бұрын

what the fuck are you actually saying? whose stopping gay men from identifying as straight. He might be bisexual considering he has a wife but he sure as hell not straight. weird how you mention him being sexually abused as it has any ties to him being gay though. People aren't turned gay.

@imimpo9316

8 ай бұрын

Thank God that he came to light from these deviations

Jordan may not have met someone like that, but they certainly do exist.

@CriticalThinker02

9 ай бұрын

@@xXxEstrellaOcultaxXx Yes, but there are countless testimonies out there. You only have to look with an open mind. I’m sure some of them may still struggle, but there are absolutely people who’ve made a 180. Why is that so hard to believe? If someone recognizes dysfunction in their life and they’re enlightened enough to explore the issue more deeply, why is it not possible for someone to change? Did you know that LGBQ individuals report an extremely high rate of sexual & emotional abuse as children compared to heterosexuals? There is an absolute correlation with early abuse & homosexuality, so wouldn’t it seem reasonable to consider the possibility of transformation?

@MegaMrDanne

9 ай бұрын

I've met one who might be like that

@jukkalepparanta2463

8 ай бұрын

The overwhelming evidence is that gay conversion therapy does not work, and there is actually more evidence that it causes harmful outcomes.

@longschlongdingdong

8 ай бұрын

You are gay or not. Nothing in between. And I don't mean that bisexuals don't exist. You can't be gay and transform to straight. It is impossible. Sexuality is deeply rooted in our mind and spirit

@jj-vu5ov

8 ай бұрын

you wanting them to exist doesnt mean that they do

I am gay and found men are very hard-wired in their preferences and don’t really deviate much from it. I went through conversion therapy in South Africa and none of those men turned straight that I know of…although I believe some became celibates for religious reasons

How disingenuous of JP to not even present the reality of the affirmation model. It does not mean you never question your patient. It means you dont outright contradict them because that shuts down dialogue and prevents you from understanding their situation better. So if someone actually isn't trans you can help them understand that and if they are you can help them take the next steps.

All things are possible through Christ, who strengthens us.

@MegaVega2007

9 ай бұрын

if god were real, i would assume he gives people sinful sexual desires so they can remain celibate and resist their temptation which would lead to holiness. not just randomly waiting until you decide to pray about it then he just degayifies you, but who knows, im not god

@vhawk1951kl

9 ай бұрын

Standing on your own shoulders or beating the ace of trumps with an ordinary deuce are not possible through Christ and no more is removing from a table something that is not on that table rom that table.

@user-ss7zt1nt6r

9 ай бұрын

God created queer people Himself in order to make our world diverse. He doesn’t want gay people to change, because that’s how He has created them. And it’s beautiful…

@Iriscience

9 ай бұрын

@@user-ss7zt1nt6r Do you believe in God? Genuine question because usually people who say this don't actually believe in God themselves but put forward this argument to convince Christians to adopt their views on homosexuality. I don't want to make any assumptions but this is usually the case. The concept of original sin and the fallen state of Mankind easily explains the existence of people who choose to live lifestyles in disobedience to God.

@isaaclosh8082

8 ай бұрын

Except the New Testament is invalid and Christianity is a false religion of idolatry

I suppose you would somehow have to leave the trauma of childhood molestation behind to do it successfully.

@Megaultraawesome99

9 ай бұрын

a silly and gross myth that is debunked by speaking to... any well adjusted gay individual who has never experienced anything of that sort.

@wilfredruffian5002

9 ай бұрын

@Megaultraawesome99 there are no well-adjusted gays. Gay is the very definition of out of adjustment.

@kovarcoley8418

9 ай бұрын

​@@Megaultraawesome99whats strange is that I've met a quite a few gay people at work or school that talk about having early sexual encounters. Like this girl I met that said she was born bisexual yet said she has been having sex since she was 8 or this guy I met that said he knew he was gay since he was 4 because he was aroused by men since that age then I asked him if he doesn't think it's unusual for a 4 year to experience arousal that's not normal. He ended the the conversation. Another common case I see are people who have very bad relationships with one of more of there parents or family members typically verbal and physical abuse.

@Megaultraawesome99

9 ай бұрын

@@kovarcoley8418 at the risk of seeming like i'm going back on what i said, it's just a false equivalence there (early traumas = homosexuality/bisexuality). to be anecdotal as well, you just would not believe the amount of straight women i know who were sexually assaulted by family members in early development. it really messed them up, but it didn't make them gay or anything. as far as that guy goes, i imagine it was just uncomfortable to speak of how his sexuality was at such a young age. to disagree with you, it's not even a question that arousal and even masturbation is can occur a good bit before puberty and adolescence, but it's a taboo subject because it's naturally uncomfortable to think children have that capacity. should it be encouraged or embraced? of course not, only a sicko would encourage such early sexuality, but it *does* spontaneously arise without their having to be some traumatic input, though early traumas certainly would exacerbate it. anyways, sorry for such a long reply, it's just that i don't necessarily see a correlation between the two things you put forward. sexual abuse in childhood is much more common of a thing than you or i might hope it to be, and i just don't see how it has anything to do with "breaking" a kid's orientation so to speak

@Megaultraawesome99

9 ай бұрын

@@wilfredruffian5002 i've met kind, generous, stable gays who have strong families and engage with their community. i've met straight men who are parasitic, sexually and domestically abusive, drug addicted sociopaths who contribute only suffering to this world. i'd say that of the two, the gays seemed quite well adjusted in comparison. all comes from the upbringing and in the cases i'm talking about, the gay individuals i've known who were well-adjusted had strong supportive parents who weren't repulsed and afraid by their child's sexual orientation.

Joseph Nicolosi’s patients have rid themselves of it.

A therapist NEVER questions ones identity. They offer up ideas where that person asks their own question to answer. JP is an incompetent therapist at best. Unethical is most likely.

It's appalling to read some of the comments where people are stating facts without any medical or psychological evidence and invalidating the opinion of psychologist who have years of practice and have come across different kind of humans and research

10 ай бұрын

YES! 🙌🏻😂

@solgonzalez3936

10 ай бұрын

The best comment!

@faithbasedliving9391

10 ай бұрын

Witnessing someone who was literally gay and then not be gay and get married and have children IS proof. How is it not? As a nurse, I’ve seen so many miracles that aren’t explainable in medical terms, how is this any different?

@moladiver6817

10 ай бұрын

Welcome to KZread, or any other online platform for that matter, where stupidity reigns because even the dumbest have access to the online network now.

@fredricks8701

9 ай бұрын

Many Christians are generally hateful people who love to abuse others. And they love to lie, as evidenced by the comments. I thought that was a sin?

online conversion therapy actually worked for me, my parents forced me and I was like ok I can't change and then I started talking anout normal things in therapy and we did image therapy on trauma and my feelings eventually went towards women only.

@F_ckAllTrumpVoters

9 ай бұрын

😂😂😂 Denial ain't just a River in Egypt 😂😂😂

@oliviaa3075

9 ай бұрын

im so sorry your parents made you go through that

@reginamemoriesforever-vc8ql

9 ай бұрын

Bless your parents because being gay is total hell… 😢😢😢

@tadhg3528

9 ай бұрын

@@reginamemoriesforever-vc8qlI can imagine, but the antidote to that is removing unfounded bigotry from society, not increasing it. Surely this must be evident by now

@Jominycrocket0

9 ай бұрын

How old were you and how long was the therapy?

To say that conversion therapy works, and that people were once gay are now straight. That’s hypothetically as successful as a (real) straight individual choosing therapy and becoming gay due to the stigma of it being wrong to be straight. I believe for the ones that it’s seems like it worked are actually bisexual to begin with. Changing your sexuality, your attraction and changing who you fall in love with is absolutely impossible. The Higher Power I believe in, that safe guides me and Loves me unconditionally that created me has a much bigger picture that’s desired to be seen by all of us.

Have Beckett Cook or Joe Dallas on your show. I dare you.

@johnnoon9999

8 ай бұрын

Becket cook is a weak example as he claims to have gotten no salvation but just guilts himself into abstinence. Jesus came that we may be free.

I truly can’t think of one logical reason for homosexuality. The woman was made as a replica of the man but with slight modifications in order for them to become the perfect match, it makes no sense for two of the same sex to become one flesh.

@Heopful

9 ай бұрын

People are just lonely.

@j.aravena2158

9 ай бұрын

Its a deviance. People who has their atraction mechanism which are based on reproduction, pointed to reproduct with the same sex is a deviance, the individual doesn't recognize where the sexuals atributes for fertility are, there are many theories about it but obviously culture-cancelled

@randomusername3873

8 ай бұрын

It doesn't have to make sense, lol It simply is

@randomusername3873

8 ай бұрын

​@@j.aravena2158people are also attracted to sterile individuals, is that a deviance too?

@j.aravena2158

8 ай бұрын

@@randomusername3873 No, we don't have a mechanism to know if someone is sterile or not if they have developed their sexual characteristics already

One of the hardest things in this life is to live authentically in society. These Conversations make it just that much harder because the people that find you yucky for just being you see you as not only yucky, but lazy and immoral, because “you can change.” There is no evidence that someone can change their sexual identity, but overwhelming evidence that you are much better off accepting yourself. I am tired of the people that find me yucky telling me how to live my life.

@liams4728

9 ай бұрын

You’ve completely missed the point here. Jordan is saying clearly gays can’t be converted. But to oppose trans ideology is illegal even though it’s what they need

@jameltanderson

9 ай бұрын

⁠​⁠@@liams4728 how do he or anybody else know what somebody need. y’all have to stop trying to control other peoples lives

@indiacompany4573

9 ай бұрын

@@jameltandersonyou missed the point too. A physiologist or mental healthcare professional of your choosing cannot legally question a patient, even if the patient doesn’t understand and may feel pressure in other environments where they cannot think through choices or actions easily. Those people can be pressured into a permanent decision medically. You should question everything, talk things out with a professional willing to challenge you with healthy methods to get you to flesh out and firm your understanding of yourself. Loving yourself as you are is bullshit fluff spewed by well intending people who don’t care if you’re not sure about who you are.

@jameltanderson

9 ай бұрын

@@indiacompany4573 no I understand the “point” I’m just not letting people move the goal post these people DON’T really care about protecting kids from themselves it’s a scapegoat for their dislike of other/lgbt people this is the just the most recent example. It used to be don’t ask don’t tell DOMA and gay marriage now it’s drag queens ,bathrooms, and sports. There will ALWAYS be another reason because it’s not the root cause. They don’t like like gay people and will find any reason to go against them or try to control them.

@Amfortas

9 ай бұрын

​@@indiacompany4573well said

There is no such thing as an ex gay, just people being taught to be ashamed and pressured to hide the fact theyre gay.

This question is silly.. Heterosexuals transition all the time to Homosexuality and no one is questioning or mocking the transition. But when it's reversed it's absurd. This man knows what's right deep down inside.

@vhawk1951kl

9 ай бұрын

"Right" meaning what? You have not the faintest idea?-No surprises there.

@zinhle1627

9 ай бұрын

@@vhawk1951kl thank you 👌🏽

@dimitritome5118

8 ай бұрын

heterosexuals don't "transition" at all, they just publicly reveal what they've always been in secret

@edwardo737

8 ай бұрын

@@vhawk1951klright in front of our creator. You don’t have to accept this, or like it, but it’s true.

@vhawk1951kl

8 ай бұрын

@@edwardo737 Thankyou, Never easy to say that but you did, which is the first part of eating the truth( tastes like shit baked in vomit does it not?) It is not for me to say but how will you go a about digesting or transforming it in absolute Silence and complete stillness-perfectly relaxed still sand silent, which is not the absence of anything but the presence of something? If a man (human being) happens perhaps accidentally to speak truth it cannot come from him down there or in my case down here, but only from the source of truth love and intelligence which is Above which I do not wish to degrade in *any* way with words.Any element of truth can only have been accidental. Inch foot, gem time.. I forget the rest but it can be looked up on this tower of babel internet thing. You took a big risk and I hope I have not betrayed that or let you down or taken advantage.Absolutely no idea what I said. If there was any element of truth in it, it could not possibly have come from below-yshp or your servant here prsent whatever vhawk1951 may be, it is a *little* thing and any resemblance between it and the truth is purely coincidental. As I used to say to police officers, beware of baby barristers -they cross-examine like machine gunners; they have no idea of at what to shoot but hope that if they keep firing they are bound to hit something, and who is to say they are wrong? You got hit by a ricochet?-Sorry bout dat. Truth does not-*cannot*come from men(human beings) but occasionally appears to come from one of them's (their?)general direction, but appearances are deceptive. It takes a *Big* man to eat a truth even if it was fired by a little man.Doubly so it it was fired by a little man by accident. I think of the mighty Richard I - coeur de lion- hit by a lucky crossbow shot of some nobody who while dying of the subsequent infection Richard fororgave the nobody whom his own people flayed alive despite their masters piety if that is the word. We(Is there a we?) live on or in a carpet of which the warp is suffering and the weft humour and the colour and number of the wools and the design are-Now for some Eliot Every attempt Is a wholly new start, and a different kind of failure Because one has only learnt to get the better of words For the thing one no longer has to say, or the way in which One is no longer disposed to say it. And so each venture Is a new beginning, a raid on the inarticulate, With shabby equipment always deteriorating In the general mess of imprecision of feeling, Undisciplined squads of emotion. And what there is to conquer By strength and submission, has already been discovered Once or twice, or several times, by men whom one cannot hope To emulate - but there is no competition - There is only the fight to recover what has been lost And found and lost again and again: and now, under conditions That seem unpropitious. But perhaps neither gain nor loss. For us, there is only the trying. The rest is not our business.” If I may I will repeat the final near perfection: Cut there is no competition - There is only the fight to recover what has been lost And found and lost again and again: "For us, there is only the trying. The rest is not our business.” Sentimental guff? A better quote from a Giant: "Become *Yourself*, then god and the devil don't matter" On yoyube you can find a conversation between the friend of a friend of mine and a huge prsesncesence from whom I was onc]e but feet away and it is entitled" The state of not knowing *Is* Intelligence, but it is not for amateurs

I have. Met him at work and he explained his background - escaping from Vietnam with his family and a unaffectionate father, and he was later saved through Christ. I believe he’s been married for over 20 years to a women and preaching the gospel ever since. A very nice person.

@michaelnoble2432

8 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing that. The Bible offers hope for those who are struggling with homosexuality, and it is indeed possible to be released from such degenerate lifestyles (1 Cor. 6:9-11).

@MB-nx9tq

4 ай бұрын

@@michaelnoble2432 the Bible is full of delusion lies and forgeries. Sorry that you have bought into the beliefs of a cult of human sacrifice from classical antiquity, but the only reason anyone would believe the nonsensical dogma taught by that contemptible sect is the fear of hell. I’m sorry you were too much of a coward to stand up and face reality, but there is still hope for the rest of us.

@shahbaziab6584

2 ай бұрын

and was he completely straight?

@shahbaziab6584

2 ай бұрын

can i ask if he is complete straight now?

My sister's friend was a young man, 18 or 19, in the mid 80's who was having feelings for men. I'll call him Alec. Alec went to his Pentecostal pastor for counsel. Not only did that man tell everyone in the congregation the content of that personal, private conversation but he also told the Alec that he, Alec, had the devil in him. Alec said that since he figured that he was going to hell anyway, he might as well have fun. He changed his number, broke all contact with family and every friend he had; threw caution to the wind and went out and slept with anything with a penis. My sister was so upset. No one knows what ever happened to him. My guess would be AIDS. I would be greatly surprised if he were alive today. Proof that ministers need proper training.

@lilhimer3361

9 ай бұрын

Ministers - plural? How balanced of you to believe all ministers are like the one you describe. Gossip is condemned in the Bible. I am not Pentecostal, but I am a Christian. I would have walked away from a 'minister' and church like that and never looked back. That was just cruel. It sickens me when people seek comfort and understanding, but instead receive condemnation. It is possible to not accept one's actions or lifestyle, but act in love regardless. Please don't react to what you 'think' I mean by this.

@johnhostetler2167

9 ай бұрын

Wow, how tolerant and open are you to judge an entire group of people based on a single story or experience, I once got into an argument with a black guy so I guess every black man is a hot headed asshole right? I mean if we're going by your standards we can judge a group of people with only one or two interactions or experiences

Like many other commentors, I'm also aware of someone who was gay, lived a gay lifestyle, and went on to have his drsires changed, marry a woman and have kids. He became part of the pastoral staff at a church I attended and gave his story as part of a sermon one day.

@shahbaziab6584

2 ай бұрын

just one question is he completely straight now? was he always gay or has some early attractions to women?

The former head of the APA testified that he had about a 10% success rate at de-gaying clients. That's why such therapies shouldn't be banned. Even one "conversion" sets the world a little bit right.

@shahbaziab6584

2 ай бұрын

sorry but i want to know what happened to that 10% after 30 years

@shahbaziab6584

2 ай бұрын

what happened to that 10% after 30 years?

There is a significant difference between being straight and acting as one. Your sexual preference is not a choice; your sexual behaviour, is.

@vhawk1951kl

9 ай бұрын

What sewerites/homosexualist s do inter se has nothing to do with sex or making new beings, so 'homosexual is something of an oxymoron. Homosexualism is clearly a manifestation of the sex function but can only be described as a malfunction of the sex function and thus pathological or some sort of disease, and on any view it is against nature which is why buggery and sodomy are wholly unknown in the animal kingdom-obviously because they are utterly pintles as are all paraphiliacs such as sewerites and homosexualists The quueer odd, strange or peculiar thing is why the religion modernism and its followers modernists, seek to make sacred cows of various forms of paraphiliac such as sewerites and trans-sexualists and become near hysterical at the slightest suggestion that there may be something objectionable about paraphiliacs and paraphiliac practices such as sodomy and buggery. Why do you suppose what you call sexual preferences to merit protected status rather than preferences to steal or injure? Some prefer to bugger or sodomise and others prefer to steal or injure-Both are prefeences, but for some queer reason the religion modernism seems to regard preferences involving the sex organs to merit protected s status. Throughout its history or past the common law has - quite rightly set its face against and sought to penalise sewerite practices such as buggery and sodomites, whereas statute law has sought to give sodomites and buggers protected status, I think because the prevailing or official religion in English speaking nations or peoples, is the religion modernism for the purposes of which any manifestation of filthy anti-natural inclinations or predilections is regarded as sacred and sundry paraphiliacs as sacred cows. Astonishingly I even hard one devout modernist refer to " gay sex" seemingly blithely unaware that what sewerites do to one another-or rather what I am *told* they do to or with oneanother involving one of the sex organs could possibly have any thing to do with sex or the activity of brining about new human beings or sex. It is axiomatic that homosexual " sex" is an impossibility which is why buggery and sodomy are completely unknown in nature or the animal kingdom, the reason for that being that nature does nothing pointless and buggery and sodomy are as pointless as buggers sodomites and sewerites, which for some inexplicable reason the religion modernism regards as sacred cows, but not necrophiliacs or bestialists, but hey ho, modernism is an extremely queer religion indeed. Why pick on sewerites and fake women to be your sacred cows but not thieves murderers and fraudsters, if you really want to sanctify everything that is vile filthy and antinatural?

@albertcapilla

9 ай бұрын

@@christopheryannatone4406 I am definitely not saying that, quite the contrary: "de-gayed" people marrying the opposite sex doesn't cease to have same sex attraction. You can "decide" to prioritise something else over your own feelings or the other way around. It's about your own acceptance, priorities and honesty with yourself, your partner and the world.

@natedog69420

9 ай бұрын

sexual attraction definitely 100% can be changed or altered. by choice or otherwise

@oab68

9 ай бұрын

You've been lied to.

@oab68

9 ай бұрын

​@@natedog69420I agree. Not only can it be changed, it is constantly changing. What I liked at 19 isn't what I like at 29 and won't be what I like at 39.

I can name four “de-gayed” people off the top of my head. You should talk to the other side more.

@premonitions1390

9 ай бұрын

Agreed. Homosexuals are finding healing but no one wants to suggest such a thing.

@qwertyuiop4624

9 ай бұрын

@@premonitions1390 It's healthy to be a heterosexual? Gosh, I just have to take a quick look at the news and see plenty of stories detailing disgusting heterosexual acts of rape, torture and murder.

@user-ss7zt1nt6r

9 ай бұрын

@@premonitions1390homosexuals do not find “healing”. It’s impossible. All the so called “ex-gay” organization are scamming people for money and fear. Many people die at the hands of those scammers. If only you knew the suicidal rates in such organizations, you would have known the truth. But God hid the truth from you so you can be arrogant and hateful.

@Noneofthedays

8 ай бұрын

They’re still gay.

@Noneofthedays

8 ай бұрын

@@premonitions1390they’re healing from the years of abuse, violence, and discrimination from people who think they’re broken and an insult to god.

That's interesting that therapists can't "ethically and legally" question a person's identity. So I guess a person could go all the way through therapy confused and believe they are gay when they are really not.

That's because you're either born gay or you're born straight

@Miss-V123

4 ай бұрын

No one is born gay. It's all nurture

@Damoclz

Ай бұрын

@@Miss-V123 people can be born gay. Their are multiple factors that contribute to it which is why it’s different for everyone. Someone can go through trauma and their are people who are born gay from hormonal influence and genes variation. Both can be true…

What about Becket Cook?

@nessalsmith

9 ай бұрын

From listening to Becket, seems he still struggles with a same sex attraction but he chose to not live like that because of his conversion.

Becket Cook has an entire channel based on his own experience of conversion and has many guests who also found their way out.

@mewho6199

9 ай бұрын

"Found their way out"? I think you mean "found their way in... to the closet." If you can't convert your sexual orientation, why would you think anyone else can?

@mizuslayer

9 ай бұрын

there’s no need for a “way out,” gayness is not some spiritual damning in need of an escape

@dpeon242

9 ай бұрын

Yeah, he’s lying 😂😂. He would ‘pitch a tent’ whenever he sees or is around an attractive man.

@shanesolar3924

9 ай бұрын

@@mizuslayeryes it is. It is disordered

@EinSofQuester

9 ай бұрын

I guess if a straight man can be converted to gay then the other way is possible too.

JP didn't question the terminology, bearing in mind he questions terminology all the time tells you his position on this

@LaLeMay

8 ай бұрын

It sounds like JP is very supportive of gay people & thinks they should not try to be something they are not.

@vleaky3430

8 ай бұрын

​@@LaLeMaynope. There was a video of him talking really badly of gay people when asked about gay marriage. He is just like the rest of them. There's a reason republiturds love this grifter.

@LaLeMay

8 ай бұрын

@@vleaky3430 provide link to video in full, not just a clip out of context.

@vleaky3430

8 ай бұрын

@@LaLeMay it's really not that hard to type in youtube but here hr talks about gays as if they're some sort of inhumane creature: kzread.info/dash/bejne/Zp6ZyJR8ZLeXj6Q.htmlfeature=shared

If some form of behavior is unproductive. Not natural, and against society, moral and religious views. Then yes you should be able to get help for your thought and feelings. And today??? If someone says they are gay they definitely can change. To say they can't change and if you think it's wrong well...then where is the hope for someone who does not want to have these urges.

@j.aravena2158

9 ай бұрын

Very true. Its not just about homosexuality, its about every deviance of sexuality

@randomusername3873

8 ай бұрын

"Not natural" said on social media You people must have cognitive problems, lol "Agaist society" how exactly is it against society😂 And not come with the "they don't have children" bullshit because ivf and surrogates are a thing

I met a few gays and listening to their stories, they could have been straight. Events, choices, experiences happened after which the sheer animal sexual force of gay sex was too much for them to turn away from, like a drug they were hooked and it changed their outlook. What I learnt from this is that though there may be so called cis gay men, I've never gotten to know their stories. But from what I can see is that many people, perhaps most, sit on a spectrum naturally but not absolutely nor irrevocably biased towards heterosexuality some more towards the poles than others but that events can shape a person's outlook so significantly that choices are made that lead to experiences that forever re-bias that individual. Perhaps there's some biological influence somewhere in the original spectral positioning but it doesn't seem compulsive. So would I say "born this way" ...no. but neither would I say it's a lifestyle choice.

@rhondam2571

9 ай бұрын

Indeed!! 👍

@vichomangiola

9 ай бұрын

Not at all. I know a lot of straight guys who are still straight even after hooking up with other guys, a lot of lesbian women who are still lesbian after hooking up with guys and an inimaginable amount of gay guys who are still gay after years of denying their sexuality and trying to be straight. Sure, there might be exceptions regarding experiences shaping attraction, but it is definitelly not a choice. Btw, the only ones who think of gay sex in terms such as "sheer animal sexual force" or "a drug" are gay guys who supress their feelings. Get over it, sex in general is not like porn.

@carnivorewitch

9 ай бұрын

i like this whole thread. i agree and i want to extend that to be homosexual is to also be attracted emotionally and physically to the same sex. i know guys who have experimented with other guys as teens to young adults, and they consider themselves straight because they can't see themselves being in a romantic relationship with a man. there is something else interesting ive observed -- and that attraction, sometimes can be biased from experience of our first instance of arousal. im not sure if this is in the books somewhere, but definitely something i've found to be an influencing factor. @@vichomangiola

@riley1774

9 ай бұрын

girl wtf are you talking about

@thezone5840

8 ай бұрын

Sodomy is sick straight or gay. (Diddo for oral).

Yes !!! I have seen that happen. And is so much happier in life

@peterspering3709

9 ай бұрын

You may have seen someone pretending to be straight, but that’s about it. You also have no way of knowing what they were feeling either. Being gay is biological. If you think otherwise and you’re a straight guy, look at a picture of an attractive man and force yourself to get an erection at the thought of him. Doesn’t work, does it?

Look up Exodus International. Many of those gay people who convinced themselves they were now straight, and got married, ended up back where they started: with a partner of the same sex. Trying to change sexuality to fit into a theological position, or Christian ideology was a disaster.

@MB-nx9tq

4 ай бұрын

Because Christianity is a delusion and false teaching. It should be called out for the lies it preaches, which is most of its doctrine.

@smalltownhomesteadAC

4 ай бұрын

There are many examples of the opposite. Why are people so determined to beliefe people are born with a sexual urge for some-one they can’t have sex with or reproduce with? It’s bizarre and doesn’t help anyone.

@DIBBY40

4 ай бұрын

@@smalltownhomesteadAC it's not bizarre. It's nature. Homosexuality has been discovered in over 1000 species of animal. What's more bizarre is that God guides ancient scribes hands through automatic writing and produces books.

@elaizakaguya4631

2 ай бұрын

​@@DIBBY40i always hear of these animals and I'm genuinely curious Which animals do you speak of Can you please provide a link or some other form of information

@DIBBY40

2 ай бұрын

@@elaizakaguya4631Do you really need me to teach you how to type "Homosexuality in animals" into Google?? 🙂

Maybe I could (not really), but I wont. People wanna control other people so bad and its weird.

Human beings like some people more than others. It’s a fundamental freedom to hang out with others that make you happy to be around. All those folks out there that keep bashing on gay folks are asking them to actually like women more, when half the time straight men aren’t even happy with women, even the woman they actually married, and they drive each other crazy.

@trevorf5948

9 ай бұрын

Quit saying folks you nerd

@bernie4268

9 ай бұрын

@@trevorf5948 - folks is a really big word I admit. Look it up in the dic-Tion-ary.

@Sarah.G_2

9 ай бұрын

Gay people include lesbians too, who like women more. Are you a misogynist? What's your point?

@bernie4268

9 ай бұрын

@@Sarah.G_2 LGB - you get the L, The blokes get the G. Don’t be greedy and a stirrer. You can fight your own battles. It’s not always about you.

@Sarah.G_2

9 ай бұрын

@@bernie4268 Who's "you"? I'm not even lesbian🤣you either didn't understand my comment or you're deflecting. Explain the misogyny in your last sentence.

You always have a choice. If you say gays can't change then you have to give that standard of being unable change to people that like bestiality or incest or far worst sexualities. You're saying they can't change?

@j.aravena2158

9 ай бұрын

Its because people want to be delusional and culture centered. Any use of the mechanism of reproduction outside of reproduction natural parts (female-male) its pathological per se. Its just culture they try to shove on our faces

Good, he never saw a gay man turn straight. Means that never happened...hallalujah! Let everyone be themselves!

That “no” by petersen at the start was a defining moment of the man. People think he’s a hard right nut full of antiquated values. He’s about as fair and respectful as it gets.