Can Historical Ottomans Win WW1 In HOI4?
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What if you were FORCED into being historical in Hearts of Iron 4? What if you played the Great War Redux mod in HOI4 as the Ottoman Empire, one of the very worst nation in the game, and could only use the accurate historical designs?
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I've been on a HOI4 binge of using only the historical presets given by Paradox, alongside accurate, historical division organization. Can I do the same as the Ottomans in the wonderful WW1 mod Great War Redux, and see if I can survive my own collapse, plus endless Balkan wars?
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WW1 Ottomans, but only Historical Presets & Divisions In HOI4?
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@Ozan-qr7hu
10 күн бұрын
I know It's not what you intended but that could have been a real legit Turkish grandpa cosplay
I respect the dedication to historical incompetence
@Aldrahill
10 күн бұрын
The spirit of incompetence just flowed through me and I couldn’t do anything about it :(
@Symboold71
10 күн бұрын
Hi Bittersteel!
Synusia winning in Libya is actually historical. IRL they fought against British French and Italy and controlled all of Libya for the majority of the war. They were so good they got a separate peace with the Entente. But they got annihilated by Mussolini later on.
@tnrz5696
11 күн бұрын
Desert Lion Omar Mukhtar. Sheyh of Senussiyya
@Aldrahill
11 күн бұрын
I had no idea! That’s so badass
@kirby1225
11 күн бұрын
sigma Senusiyya 🗿🗿🗿🗿
Here’s an idea that I’m not sure you’ve done yet: WW2 Canada. I’ve recently been playing Canada as a pure support nation and have been having a ton of fun capping Italy and the like. I know this is a bit different but I think it would be interesting
@Aldrahill
12 күн бұрын
Yes! Desperately need to do Canada, and all commonwealth nations really! I think August is when I’m planning it?
@Lolt-jj5kz
11 күн бұрын
Yes!
@Warsage29
11 күн бұрын
Canada for the win
@lordedmundblackadder9321
11 күн бұрын
@@AldrahillCan’t wait for historical New Zealand
@TheKonkaman
11 күн бұрын
Canada got a buff in the last patch, the navy got doubled in size 😂
23:17 lmao casualy doing war crime in the caucasus like it was nothing silly ottoman
Next: Competitive multiplayer hoi4 with historical preset & division
@Aldrahill
11 күн бұрын
Oh god what a pain to organise xD
@kirby1225
11 күн бұрын
@@Aldrahill you'd most likely need a mod for that. Though I don't see it being all that fun once the novelty wears off.
You should continue this game as Ataturk an recover all the lost territory. That would be fun.
Win* World War II as Poland, but you can only use infantry
@wrtekcz538
10 күн бұрын
So 30 mins of hel
@SmallPotato2313
8 күн бұрын
1936 or 1939 start date?
@Submarineme
8 күн бұрын
@@SmallPotato2313 1936
"Grandpa grandpa, skipidi no cap fr fr" "gyat" 💀
@Aldrahill
11 күн бұрын
I quite literally died filming this 💀
@Whiskers4169
11 күн бұрын
Dude I shit you not there is a translate to English button
@Average_Cinder_Block
11 күн бұрын
@@Whiskers4169 nah, even youtube doesn't take that as english 💀
I hate how little choice this game gives for the ottomans. It wants you to loose and it will go out of its way just so that it can fuck you over. I am surprised that gallipoli isn’t a transfer territory to Britain event like those in the Levantine region. Don’t get me wrong , I appreciate the historical accuracy, I was thought these event in school but if hoi4 was just historical accuracy than it wouldn’t be fun now would it. If I play as the ottomans I expect to be able to reform and to get rewarded for my knowledge of its history not be forced to get destroyed
@ratman7976
8 күн бұрын
I think it's because the Ottomans were dying and the War was the final blow, but it would be cool to do a way to save the empire like giving up territory to stabilize then reconquer
@Baconomics1
2 күн бұрын
this mod feels just a bit too railroaded with the events
Way too much railroading in this mod, it would be interesting if you could mitigate the Ottoman's failures more. Not stop them, but make them a little less bad.
@Aldrahill
11 күн бұрын
I think if I helped Germany push in France could’ve won? But yeah a ton of railroading
@TheOwneroftheIC
11 күн бұрын
@@Aldrahill it wouldn't even be as bad if it weren't for what it does after the mod. Japan and the US can sit the war out but even if they do they get maluses as if they fought in the war.
@kptlt.phillipthomsen5973
11 күн бұрын
It is very railroaded, same with regular Kaiserreich
@nickfejes6246
11 күн бұрын
Yeah, I always want to play Ottomans in these kinda games, but so many of them are "The Ottomans sucked, here is your -90% debuff, no you cannot get rid of it." Even Vic3 does it, where if you don't fix everything in like 2 years i think, it just sticks an unremovable nation ruining debuff on you.
@commandercorl1544
11 күн бұрын
this is exactly why i prefer the original great war mod, far more flexibility, and the post-war modifiers aren't nearly as bad. you can actually...play after 1918. revolutionary, i know.
You missed the after peace content. After you capitulated you got the "Kuvay-ı Milliye Problem" event with only one option, "Send the Mustafa Kemal Pasha". Historically, this "event" sparked the "Turkish War of Indepence". I really hoped you would continue and become "Ankara Goverment" but yeah it was a great video! And Ottomans becoming a dominion is kinda historical.
@Jsay18
9 күн бұрын
Historical? They butchered Anatolia into 5 parts originally!
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@kaptan_davuk
11 күн бұрын
After Austria-Hungary 🇦🇹🇭🇺🇦🇹🇭🇺 🔥🔥🔥
@TheTurkwithaPerk
11 күн бұрын
@@kaptan_davuk losing 13% of your population in 4 years is enough to declare the ottomans as the worst
@heirofwesteros
10 күн бұрын
Naaah austuria hungary performed worse
Cold war iron curtain. Cold war gone hot with historical American divisions
I actually thought you'd win in the beginning until I realised you were playing as the Sick Man what a shame;if only the Femboyvarians were there to save the Central Axis Powers.....
Alright here’s a real challenge play yunnan in the new order but only use historical republic of China division templates
You should try playing as the whites in the Russian Civil War with Historical Presets & Divisions.
Mr. Hill, two questions: One, why don't you toggle off decisions that you don't want to do so you can actually be alerted when one that you do want to do becomes available, and two, do you ever use the medal system for divisions? I don't think I've seen a single HoI4 youtuber even touch it.
@Aldrahill
10 күн бұрын
God I always forget that! And honestly I rarely use the medal system - it’s far too much micro for too little benefit. I do do it if I’m roleplaying a bit, like with a Soviet guards division or something
I love your hoi4 videos alot. I don't have a good enough pc to play this game but I do know it takes hours for making videos and playing this game. Thanks for all the time and effort put into the content 👍 also the fact that u try to use historical units and that makes the game way harder. Much credit for all the content
Ive been waiting for this along time
Austro-Hungarian Empire: *Collaspes* The whole Central Powers: "Guess we're surrendering now."
Great vid man keep up the good work i love your videos and you deserve to have 1 million subs
@Aldrahill
11 күн бұрын
Thank you so much! Let’s see if I can hit 50k subs first ;)
A Little tip on the Balkan War if you aren't too obsessed with history: Turn your artillryless infantry into shock troops made of 4 infantry (2×2) and 4 artillery (I use 8) and buy a shitton of artillery at discounted German prices. They bust through Bulgarian lines and can be used to encircle their troops. Use the cavalry and irregular cavalry to hold at greece as greece's army is too weak and doesn't often try to push. And don't make your divisions so large. 3×3+1 infantry and 1 or 2 artillery artillery is good enough to hold the line and doesn't put as much strain on your supply lines (Rhodopes is very bad about this).
During the italian ottoman war its best to place the units around the ports and instantly attack when they land
Biggest frustration with the mod for me. Is how often it just goes "... yeah but history..." and forces a peace deal and such regardless of if you're winning or not. At least it does it to me a lot. Like I could be making good progress into France and it just goes "Yeah but France won my dudes, so peace deal and you lost."
if you win the libyan war and just ignore Asir, theyll push up hejaz but not go into the levant. you can then just naval invade their core territory (its 3 provinces) and capitulate them, extremely easily
@Whiskers4169
11 күн бұрын
My man you are not winning trablusgarp. The best you might get is hold on long enough for a white peace but you need to prepare for that a lot with all those debuffs
@user-zp9nf5qo8j
11 күн бұрын
@Whiskers4169 there are multiple videos on KZread where Ottmans win
You know, i like seeing someone loosing for once. You only see WC's or victory and expansion. But loosing can be fun, interesting and historical too. Thanks
@Aldrahill
10 күн бұрын
Agreed! Glad you enjoyed it :)
Thanks youtube algorithm from week ago I've watched so many of your vids.
@Aldrahill
11 күн бұрын
Blessed KZread W! Welcome buddy!
gonna try it myself
LET'S GO You sticked to your promise it seems
Yıldırım Birlikleri or Yıldırım Ordusu was basically Turkish adaptation of German shocktroopers. They didn't win us the war but were reportedly more capable than regular infantry divisions (well Mustafa Kemal Atatürk was a very capable commander, him being the leader of the army group certainly helped). For everyone, don't blame Turkiye for Ottoman problems. House Osman is lurking in Europe still, go take your hate out of them!
Reform byzantium using historically accurate byzantine divisions (light horse = cavalry mabye cataphracts are tanks)
Is it bad that i enjoy your adds more than the majority of the video
@Aldrahill
11 күн бұрын
Ohhh shit thank you xD another one next week as well :D
Losing all that land pissed me off 😭
New idea: Historical Countries but in Black Ice Mod
@Aldrahill
5 күн бұрын
XD look at my videos right now :D ones coming out tomorrow!!
Would've loved to hear you struggle more with Turkish words!! I love this series.
My Great Grandad fought in the middle eastern front Pte Thomas Smyth, 1st Connaught Rangers, Mesopotamia and Palestine campaigns 1917-18
oh look, it's an Ottoman campaign, i wonder what you could do to spice it up in the event, let's say, you hit 50k subs
still watching video already know it's a banger though
I swear this man has read Fall of the Ottomans by Eugene Rogan.
So I have a fun little challenge Calvary and light tanks only Hungary, yes put light tanks and cav together please I need this
You did worse than historical ottomans, thats impressive
Nahhhh naahhhh, that's just ultimate torture now
I got an idea for a vid New Zealand tank only
I am once again asking for artillery only challenge
I think you should do a video like Hystorical Romania.
You've played with historical armies. But what about winning with historical planes and historical boats?
@Aldrahill
10 күн бұрын
Sadly the planes don’t really work in this mod! But I usually do ! Next vid is USA in Black Ice, and I’ll be going crazy with historical designs :D
Do BICE China with historical templates
Do the proper hydration challenge next.
@Aldrahill
9 күн бұрын
Truly impossible :( just woke up with my mouth all dry :(
@StationaryGamingReal
9 күн бұрын
@@Aldrahill: ((((
Form the Great Romania or survive in WW1 with the historical divisions ❤
Historical WW1 france would he nice to see!
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Clears throat. Do Bulgarain historical divisions on the ww1 mod. If you could goo sir,thank you.
Now, can you please try historical only greece in ww1 because the creator added a masive new focus tree?
@Aldrahill
9 күн бұрын
Oooo I’ll take a look!
Please do Black Ice Finland Historical Division designs, templates and Division amount, (only have the number of divisions that there were historically) also if you cant find sources use A Frozen Hell by William R. Trotter it has all the historic amounts accounts and division structures
I find it a bit shite that no matter how well you perform you're dragged down by the AI failing and are pretty much just forced to lose at the end. It feels like if you aren't playing Germany or maybe Austria-Hungary you get an automatic loss as any of the other Central Powers
@Aldrahill
9 күн бұрын
Yeah that's the trouble with this mod :(
Hey devs told me there will be an ottoman rework because the ottoman debuffs are a bit ridiculous will you do another try when the update come ?
@Aldrahill
17 сағат бұрын
Cool idea! I’ll keep an eye on it and consider it!
Hmmmm.. how about historical Barbados in millennium dawn. That autta be fun..
Authotarian Latvia video when?
*ceddin deden plays*
I like the great war mod, but it makes it way too hard to win as the central powers.
You can play Turkish War of Independence, by the way!
@Aldrahill
10 күн бұрын
I should have!
Across the Dniper ukraine due to how many sources of it
Norway is a nice country you know. you should visit sometime. Anyway, Norway historical division when?
@Aldrahill
11 күн бұрын
Definitely want to do that! Maybe I’ll do a sort of minor country video and play like 3 minors like Norway?
@jonsitron11
11 күн бұрын
@@Aldrahill Was just about to suggest Norway! There should be plenty of info out there to make it a possibility, at least. Would love to see it.
you should have played the Turkish War of Independence! We worked really hard on that :)
@Aldrahill
11 күн бұрын
Awwww damn next time!
Being an Arab will be thornier than you suppose, Harith!
Historical Bhutan please
Wow , a cooperation with a game i actually love and play And btw , congrats for torturing yourself again
Can you do historical presets for Bulgaria WW1?
@Aldrahill
10 күн бұрын
It’s on the plan!!
Pls do the turkish war of independence in great war redux with historical divisions
You did your best tho
i swear i asked for this like 2 months ago
@Aldrahill
11 күн бұрын
And I listened! So it’s all your fault!
Which mod is this?
@Aldrahill
9 күн бұрын
Great War Redux!
@classeketer9855
9 күн бұрын
@@AldrahillThanks!
Does pretending to be historical include not even trying to win?
@Aldrahill
11 күн бұрын
How very dare you! I tried to win - the army modernisation maluses were incredibly punishing against the British tbh
Play the next series with mods
@Aldrahill
9 күн бұрын
What mods? :)
You Brits remember Gallipoli, but not Kut. Why is that? Much love from a Trans-Atlantic cousin.
@Aldrahill
10 күн бұрын
Just learnt about that! Worse defeat of the allies, super interesting!
Hmm, what about historically accurate division templates but in Millenium dawn as Iraq or Russia?
I really wanna know why the German empire AI always gives up when you can very obvious win. Ruined a few Austria Hungary runs for me.
@Aldrahill
9 күн бұрын
They just don’t realize the buffs on a timer!
How about ww1 Greece with historical presets & divisions?
@Aldrahill
10 күн бұрын
Could be fun for a smaller minor focused video!
make the whole world communist in the cold war mod
Can you play Romania next.
Tank only Luxembourg’s when???
Do you get the sinking of the titanic event in GWR
@Aldrahill
11 күн бұрын
Yes!
@user-dr8kx1yt9y
11 күн бұрын
@@Aldrahill can you showcase that maybe?
You def could have won this game+ the first Balkan war, the ai doesn't have the soft attack to push you out of positions
@poyloos4834
11 күн бұрын
I don’t really like when the youtuber goes back to make everything perfect for them though :/. Especially to go against what happened historically in a historical video game
@Aldrahill
11 күн бұрын
I honestly barely had a chance I got rekt so quickly !!
Play historical games, get historical results they say, or something like that.
Can you play persia for once? Thanks 😊
What if you tried to do the Turkish war of independence from where you left this?
@Aldrahill
7 күн бұрын
Might be gold for a stream!
Where is black ice Poland? I’ve been asking forever.
@Aldrahill
11 күн бұрын
It’s on its way :) got majors to do first!
@justtoasty979
8 күн бұрын
@@Aldrahill 😊 good very good and can I please get a shout out
could u do greece after pls
Do cold war iron curtain as soviet
How about WW1 Italy historical divisions?
@Aldrahill
11 күн бұрын
More Italy… oh god…
@AaaBbb-pb7ci
11 күн бұрын
@@Aldrahill Tbh, terrain in Alps and rivers also amount of soft attack in Great war Redux, at this point you can just stay in the same place for entire war
Ww2 historical Finland when?
@Aldrahill
7 күн бұрын
It’s on the list!! :)
@Mokkilaituri
7 күн бұрын
@@Aldrahill Awesome!! I am from Finland and i love your videos. They are good to watch before sleep, cuz your voice is so calming :DD
Pls play ww1 bulgaria and restore Byzantine empire
no because the couch
😂
bro u missed huge afterwar content!!
@Aldrahill
7 күн бұрын
I know I suck! Mod creators told me! Will have to check it out again
Bro can you test morocco but inhistoricl❤
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