Check out my first race/ride on this bike and full review video here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/ipVqwbWEh7fgmKg.html

I built a DCB F100 (Scott Spark) last year, and I have had zero issues. Ty was extremely responsive & helpful during the build. Because the frame was so inexpensive, I could afford to buy top spec parts. The result? A 23 lb race rocket. No regrets!

@TheDustyDutchman

Жыл бұрын

That’s awesome! Good to hear, agreed on Ty’s customer service 👍👍

@williamsimpson8115

6 ай бұрын

How heavy are you please ?

@jamescourier1545

6 ай бұрын

160 pounds​@@williamsimpson8115

@TheDustyDutchman

6 ай бұрын

I’m 190 lbs.

Dude, really good video. I like how you’re not cocky or arrogant, just presenting good information

@TheDustyDutchman

Жыл бұрын

Thanks man! And thanks for the feedback! 👍👍 I definitely don’t take myself too seriously lol

@fran7336

Жыл бұрын

​@@TheDustyDutchman you sarcastic bollocks you😂

@TheDustyDutchman

Жыл бұрын

Haha you’re absolutely right about that 😂

If you are patience type, the "unguided" internal cableing isnt a tragedy, the quality of the derailleur hanger also not a problem , you can buy a better one then what comes with the frame. I ordered a fully Lexon Myst from Ali, w/o rear shock, payd 500 USD . If the frame will not have any strcutural or rigidity problem , man that thing is worth it. I dont care if the build will last a bit longer than the usual. I got a fully carbon frame for a fracture of the big names prices.

@TheDustyDutchman

2 ай бұрын

Exactly 👍

To run the cables..... This sounds crazy, but it works. Tape a bic pen onto a vaccum. Stick that in the ending hole, and run a small piece of twine in the starting hole.... and it will get sucked into the bic pen vaccum attachment... then use that to run your cable.

@TheDustyDutchman

Жыл бұрын

That actually sounds kinda fun! I’m gonna try that next time. Thanks! 👍

I love my one year old lightcarbon chinese full sus frame lcfs 911 model that looks like a 2018 Spark. Ive had it for over a year and raced it 6 times with three 1sts, and 3 3rds. Works flawlessly, and quality is good , reliability excellent, and looks wise, tolerances right on. I don't know what you consider quality since you werent too specific on what was wrong with a chinese open mold other than a derailleur hanger and internal routing, an issue i didnt find overwhelming, but after racing a chinese hardtail for 6 years with zero problems , 46 races on my hardtail with nearly 40 podiums I can say they are a steal. No problems with axles, or derailleur hangers, whatever. I only broke one derailleur hanger in 6 years and in all those races i mentioned.. there are way more pros than you think .....resale, if i were to purchase a name brand full sus xc carbon frame im spending around 4 grand and selling it three years later will only get maybe 1500 to 2500 at the most.Thats a loss of 1500 bucks to 2500 hundred dollars.. i paid 575 dollars plus 200 shipping for my light carbon.. so say 775 bucks.. If I sell it in 3 years i can still get 200-250 bucks for it at a loss of maybe 300 to 500 at the most. Thats 1/4 to 1/5 the loss of a name brand over priced carbon frame. By the way the derailleur hangers are supposed to break under certain loads to protect the carbon frame from damage, that's why they are made from aluminium and not steel. Ill never buy an overpriced name brand again.

@TheDustyDutchman

8 ай бұрын

That’s awesome! Nice work 👍

Great video. Informative!

@TheDustyDutchman

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Eric 🙌

Sweet! Always wondered about these!

@TheDustyDutchman

Жыл бұрын

It’s an interesting game to play but do it right and it can work out 💪

i like it man. ive always thought about snagging one of those too.

@TheDustyDutchman

Жыл бұрын

Thanks bro! Yeah it’s a grey area for sure but it can work to your favor with the right model.

I agree with your sentiment concerning open molds, and DIY Carbon Bikes, specifically. I opted for a rigid carbon fork from them in the Whisky "style." It is significantly cheaper (like half the price) of the Whisky brand fork, and even cheaper when compared to the Enve rigid. I like the clean, uncluttered look of your frame. Some carefully chosen accents in either anodized parts or aftermarket decal should set the bike off, but it looks outstanding in its current config. I went the opposite way from your bike, by deleting the Fox34, putting on a rigid fork, and putting on 3.5 inch Fat B Nimble tires for my "suspension."

@TheDustyDutchman

Жыл бұрын

Awesome thanks for watching. I think that as long as people are educated on what they are buying and have a fair expectation of the fit, finish, and quality there is absolutely great use cases for “cheaper” parts.

@loft4me

Жыл бұрын

@@TheDustyDutchman Indeed. And as you indicated, Ty at DIY is quick to respond through his amusing "chat" box means of communication. Thanks Dutchman for the response and video.

@TheDustyDutchman

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely 👍. Ty’s customer service is fantastic. You can tell he knows his product and he actually cares that everyone has a positive experience

Great video! Very interesting! Do you have to pay a lot in shipping or is that built into the price?

@TheDustyDutchman

Жыл бұрын

It’s usually free shipping but it takes 6-8 weeks

very cool

@TheDustyDutchman

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching 👏

Currently doing my first diy build on the same frame. Thinking I should pick up a few spare derailleur hangers like you mentioned. What am I looking for and can you recommend a shop?

@TheDustyDutchman

Жыл бұрын

Nice! I just emailed Ty at DIY and ordered a few extra hangers right from him. They take a month or so to get so keep that in mind. Good luck with the build 👍

I watched one of those KZread vids (probably MegaProjects) where they explained the doctrine of Chinese Manufacturing. Most manufacturers, especially known ones, have that "Customer Satisfaction First" mind set. They'd be like: "Here's what the customer wants and needs. We're gonna build something they'll gonna use, admire and treasure for years." On China, they'd be like: "Here's the budget and here's the expected market price for this thing, let's make the most of it. Don't care if it breaks, they'll just buy more coz we're gonna make more."

@TheDustyDutchman

Жыл бұрын

So true 🤷‍♂️

How tall is this the dusty Dutchman? I have the same issues with bike sizing, being right on the line between med & large MTB Frames at 5' 10".

@TheDustyDutchman

11 ай бұрын

I wanna say it was somewhere in the 18-19”. They seem to run on the small side so the large fits me perfect at 6’ tall.

Would be interesting to see Hambini and Luescher Teknik inspect these, and check tolerances, roundness, alignment, how good the carbon work is.

@TheDustyDutchman

Жыл бұрын

Spoiler alert… they would say it’s trash lol 😆

@IronHorsey3

Жыл бұрын

Hambini would never say that. Well, not before he puked 🤮 on the bottom bracket.

@TheDustyDutchman

Жыл бұрын

Lol I don’t think he would go anywhere near this

@IronHorsey3

Жыл бұрын

@@TheDustyDutchman - did you see what he did to your beloved 9er? He'd put those crap hangers in a bad bottom bracket and blow them up. I do love his engineering focus and his ride on his TIME bike was hilariously honest even as he praised it's craftsmanship (which is stellar).

@TheDustyDutchman

Жыл бұрын

Yeah. Amazing

Any opensource tadpole recumbent bike frames?

@TheDustyDutchman

Жыл бұрын

Not sure 🤷‍♂️ Email them 👍

I found your video, as I'm considering to buy the rigid mtb fork from them. You mention the quality of the axles is sucky. So, what's your recommendation of solving this issue?

@TheDustyDutchman

Жыл бұрын

I would say the thing that’s sucky about the axels is that every bike had different style axels. Some fancier then others but not necessarily bad. The good news is the axels are standard sizing so if you weren’t happy with the axel you receive you can always buy a new axel from DT Swiss or One up components etc etc

@1_mensch

Жыл бұрын

@@TheDustyDutchman Thank you ✌️✌️

@TheDustyDutchman

Жыл бұрын

Anytime!

man what a cool bike

@TheDustyDutchman

9 ай бұрын

Thanks. It’s holding up pretty well so far

Thoughts on Quality / Safety of the frame?

@TheDustyDutchman

Жыл бұрын

Other then the low quality hardware that I discussed in the video I’ve had no major quality issues with the carbon. Which the same can be said about the safety aspect. As far as this brand new frame I only have two rides on it so far so it’s a little early to say.

Have any dealings with their wheels? Thx -U10

@TheDustyDutchman

4 ай бұрын

No not yet. I’ve had my eye on them for a while, maybe this year I’ll finally pick some up.

What just the frame weight is?

@TheDustyDutchman

Ай бұрын

The website says 1050g

Great vid. So would you do it again ? Thanks.

@TheDustyDutchman

Жыл бұрын

Thanks man! Lol great question…. If it’s a hardtail, yes I would. I have built trust with those

What was the final price of the whole build

@TheDustyDutchman

Жыл бұрын

I didn't keep track but going over it now between new and used parts I think less than $3,000

Hey vriend. Ik gaat er vanuit jouw naam van het kanaal dat je Nederlands spreekt 😂 Maar ik moet het aan jouw zeggen. Gewoon plaat en de nodige informatie weergegeven. Dat vond ik super. I have rebuilt my Giant XTC 3. It's a 26" but I'm planning on building a 29 using the Trifox MFM 100. I'm not a full mtber I'm more a roadie but I feel like I will do it more often. I've done it since 2015, but now I'm starting to get interested again 😂 Laat weten hoe is het gegaan 💪🏽groeten vanuit Curacao 🇨🇼

@TheDustyDutchman

6 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching! I don’t speak Dutch very well but my dad and his side of the family does 👍👍

3:03 "and a new seat post because sizes" I have 4 bikes and NOT ONE share seat post sizes!

@TheDustyDutchman

5 ай бұрын

Funny how that works right? 😂

Was the fat bike frame from diy carbon as well?

@TheDustyDutchman

8 ай бұрын

Yeah. I’ve got a few seasons on it already. Super solid

@rasmusredfire2667

5 ай бұрын

And are you Running 27.5x4.0 fat ??

@TheDustyDutchman

5 ай бұрын

Yes I primarily run 27.5 x 4

Better? Hell no. But way cheaper and probably serve 95% of the need.

@TheDustyDutchman

Жыл бұрын

My thoughts exactly 👍

@endremajos2566

2 ай бұрын

Please explain for me, for you what is better or worst , and what is hided in the last 5 % ? I ride average 7000 km/year, and now i ordered my first carbon fully frame from the Aliexpress, tell me, where will be the point, when the frame will not be enough for me. I will use it for raceing too.

@hkchew03

2 ай бұрын

@@endremajos2566 tell me how many use it for competitive racing? And how much better you gain from a frame that cost 10x more?

@endremajos2566

2 ай бұрын

@@hkchew03 I compete(raceing) about 10-15 times yerly, but off this, training weekly 3-5 times 40-70 km on mid and heavy terrain.

@Pachoslavus

5 күн бұрын

@@endremajos2566how is it?

if i can get 90% of a brand bike, for 50% the cost, and it will work just fine, then im taking it, cycling nowdays is all about braggin how many decimals your paycheck has , instead of yk, riding a bike

@TheDustyDutchman

9 күн бұрын

Agreed 👍 💯

If china can make fighter planes why can't they make a nice carbon frame

@TheDustyDutchman

Жыл бұрын

Great point 👍

@squidwardsquarepants7493

Жыл бұрын

You do know pinarello and other big brands are made in china right?

@TheDustyDutchman

Жыл бұрын

Most definitely. Some major brands are even produced in the same factory as the open molds

@oscsrhernandez8743

4 ай бұрын

Say that to Canondale Scalpel HT just about the same frame 🤔

@PeterSz73

4 күн бұрын

"china" does not make anything. Chinese companies do. And - just like in any other countries in the world including the USA - there are good Chinese companies and better Chinese companies and downright shit Chinese companies. You just don't know what you are dealing with that's all. This is why proper research and videos like this are helpful and needed.

Damper. No N.

@TheDustyDutchman

Жыл бұрын

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