Can Any Idiot Ride Clip Mountain Bike Pedals?

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Jack Gill, our in-house video editor and resident idiot is most comfortable when he is out riding flat MTB pedals, but can he make the switch to clipless MTB pedals and stick at it? Luckily, Neil Donoghue is on hand to guide Jack through the all-important steps when switching from flats to cleats, and be on hand to pick up the pieces when Jack inevitably goes flying!
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  • @gmbn
    @gmbn2 жыл бұрын

    Do you ride clips or flats?

  • @yvmalnt4761

    @yvmalnt4761

    2 жыл бұрын

    Clipless is better on all counts; you just don't need to bother about you feet anymore

  • @odednizan2298

    @odednizan2298

    2 жыл бұрын

    Clippers cranckbrothers eggbeater

  • @odednizan2298

    @odednizan2298

    2 жыл бұрын

    So light

  • @CannabisTechLife

    @CannabisTechLife

    2 жыл бұрын

    Clipless because I hated always having to focus on keeping my foot in position after every bump.

  • @bryleolveda7787

    @bryleolveda7787

    2 жыл бұрын

    clips and flat but mostly clip

  • @cliffsangelsphotography
    @cliffsangelsphotography2 жыл бұрын

    I do both, but primarily a flats rider. If I know I'm doing jumps and super technical dh, I'll get my big bike with flats. If I know it's a long adventure or doing a local XC race, I'll clip in.

  • @iansingleton
    @iansingleton6 ай бұрын

    I ride MTB and road. I've been a flats rider on the MTB but getting used to the clipped in feeling on the road bike I've now started riding clipped in on the MTB too. I used ride spd on the road but I've gone clipless all round now. I find the clipless system a happy medium. You've still got quite a lot of movement compared to SPD but you get that nice planted locked in feeling too. It wasn't easy, as you guys point out, after years of riding flats you seem to go backwards for a while until you forget about it and it becomes second nature. Great film guys!

  • @marter544
    @marter5442 жыл бұрын

    I used to race BMX clipped-in, but after having a rather nasty crash due to not being able to bail mid-air and breaking 3 bones in the proces, I switched to flats and never looked back. I feel that riding clipped-in gives you an extra edge, but it doesn't make riding more fun and since I do not race anymore I'd rather have an easy bail-out.

  • @dolphin-studio

    @dolphin-studio

    2 жыл бұрын

    what were you thinking clips are not maid for jumping let alone tricks. Also, BMX using clips you are a disgrace.

  • @bobohunter1776

    @bobohunter1776

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@dolphin-studio Who's doing tricks in a BMX race? I think you have no idea what you're talking about.

  • @gmbn

    @gmbn

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ouch! It really depends on riding style. It's good to see there are some good BMX racers running flats now, even though it may be for a statement it may help break the flat pedal stigma in BMX racing. As Neil said, it's best to be confident with riding before trying clipless.

  • @fergusoh5092

    @fergusoh5092

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@dolphin-studio almost everyone that races BMX uses clips? Just look at Olympic BMX racing

  • @turtleman190

    @turtleman190

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@dolphin-studio you have bmx racing confused with freestyle bmx they are totally different sports

  • @niteryder50
    @niteryder502 жыл бұрын

    Rode flats for year then tried clips and love them, so much more control and don't have to worry about getting bounced off and made me commit to stuff way more

  • @gabkoost
    @gabkoost2 жыл бұрын

    Clipped in on the road, flat on the trails. No way i will ever want my feet locked up on trails. Might end up with some chin bruises from the pedal hitting times to times but to me it's worth the freedom, quickness of reaction and being able to move the feet around the platform for comfort and adjustments. More than that, it's a pain in the ass you are on a 15% gradient segment and you have to push your bike up a narrow trail because there's no way you will be able to clip in and get going again with falling on your ass.

  • @reedymc
    @reedymc2 жыл бұрын

    flats for me, I like to be able to bail the bike easily and also id just wear shin pads for accidental pedal shin flicks. seems to be an added thing to think about when in panic mode of needing to unclip lol

  • @Sheppy99
    @Sheppy99 Жыл бұрын

    Music in this vid is sick lol.

  • @bluevoodooiv7072
    @bluevoodooiv7072 Жыл бұрын

    I ride XC for fun. I started with Shimano standard SPD cleats. After many falls and bike repairs, I found out about Shimano's multi-release cleats. Never looked back. Immense fun, safe ride. Cheap, reliable, easy to use, safe. And fun. What more?

  • @ivan_di_dio97

    @ivan_di_dio97

    Жыл бұрын

    with shimano sh56 (multi release cleats) can i jump or my feets unclip from the pedals ? Sorry for my English 🙏

  • @livingon2wheels
    @livingon2wheels2 жыл бұрын

    I've never clipped in and after watching this, still have no interest. Honestly I don't ride hard enough to benefit from it. Excellent video, guys!

  • @dolphin-studio

    @dolphin-studio

    2 жыл бұрын

    also, you have to earn those clips. Clips create such bad habits if you dont master first the essentials, the same goes for full suspension you have to earn those otherwise you are depending too much on tech and you are not alowing yourself to grow in terms of skill. The fastest enduro and XC racers have mastered these skills that is why they are numbe 1. I ride a hardtail and I am thinking of even buying a full rigid v break 2.0 tires so that i can learn as much as I can.

  • @gmbn

    @gmbn

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! 🙌 Maybe Doddy's love letter to clipless over on GMBN Tech may change that? 🤔 It's quite a different video from this one and worth the other perspective 👉 gmbn.tech/ILoveClips

  • @jarionosouna1381
    @jarionosouna13813 ай бұрын

    My first time riding clipless I fell in love with them , my riding buddy thought I was crazy but it felt like a totally different bike. I didn’t ride for a few year and got myself another bike with flats and felt like a fish out of water , switched back to clipless today and loved it !!! 🎉🎉🎉🥳🥳🥳🥳🇹🇹

  • @mclark3133
    @mclark31332 жыл бұрын

    Been riding clipped in since day one- road and mtb. I tried flats, but didn't like my feet bouncing around on the pedals. I feel planted on the bike clipped in and after riding clips for decades, I'm able to get a foot down in a split-second. To each his/her/their own.

  • @SlyGuy2000
    @SlyGuy20002 жыл бұрын

    after a bad spill with clipless, i went years with old school toe clip peddles... i recently started riding Shimano SPD clipless again, and now 6 months later, love them!!! i won't go back!!!

  • @njm312
    @njm3122 жыл бұрын

    I used to ride clip-less but the slower you are going the harder it is to unclip i.e. steep climb and the back wheel slips, no chance of unclipping. Now use pedals which are clip-less one side and flat the other. Doing this increased my confidence in riding off road and trying more steeper climbs and technical lines.

  • @Seppster58

    @Seppster58

    2 жыл бұрын

    YA, I have pedals that are the same. When the going gets tough and need that extra freedom, I use the flat side. Was a good choice. Also, if my wife wants to ride my bike, she uses the flat side. Have transitioned all my bikes with these pedals.. Nice!

  • @fpainchaud350

    @fpainchaud350

    2 жыл бұрын

    I still have those pedals on my gravel bike!

  • @PatkosCsaba
    @PatkosCsaba2 жыл бұрын

    I switched to clipless pedals about 1000km ago. I am just a hobby mtb rider, but these clipless pedals were a godsend for me. It took me about 250km of riding to get used to unclipping properly. But after that, it became all reflex. The few times I crashed since, my feets were out of the pedals way ahead of hitting the ground. And now I clip in and out without even thinking about it. I really love the feeling to be connected to the bike. It gives me confidence, especially while pedaling through rough terrain. Before, I was afraid of my feet sliding off the pedals and I slowed down. Now, when I feel the bike sliding, I just push the pedals harder. That, in most cases, helps me through deep mud or roots without issues. And now I can also just quickly clip out a foot in more dangerous corners and clip back instantaneously.

  • @johnmuttitt
    @johnmuttitt2 жыл бұрын

    I've only recently got back into the mtb world after a long break from it (mid 90's), and I remember back then trying to convert from the old style 'clip pedals' to ' clipless. The amount of times I tried to release from the clipless by sliding my foot backwards as I would normally do to come out of the clip (cage) type pedals.... ouch!! Now I am back into mtb again and bought my bike with flats and also now have clipless, I find it much easier to swap from one to the other. Both have their place, but I now prefer the clipless. Great video again by the way. John..... (the Tamar Valley, Cornwall/Devon).

  • @MrLesterdr
    @MrLesterdr2 жыл бұрын

    I had a lot of trouble getting used to them at first until I backed off the tension to the minimum with multi's, from there I got the best of both worlds and haven't had a problem I believe the biggest issue is having them too tight This way they easily unclip but also provide the advantage of being clipped It also makes it easier to get clipped in

  • @aliancemd

    @aliancemd

    2 жыл бұрын

    I also started this way but then it weakened or it was to slippery and I unclipped twice when putting the power down and have flown over the bars, since then, I started slowly tightening them.

  • @stujm8376

    @stujm8376

    2 жыл бұрын

    I had exactly the same experience and agree completely

  • @nigelfoulds284

    @nigelfoulds284

    2 жыл бұрын

    Totally agree...

  • @carloswithac
    @carloswithac2 жыл бұрын

    I remember my fist fall on clipless pedals. I was on my road bike and stopped at a light. I fell in front of quite a few spectators, it was super embarrassing. Tried them on MTB once, and could climb up things I couldn't with flat pedals. I just couldn't get used to them and am back on flats.

  • @philipholenstein5685
    @philipholenstein56852 жыл бұрын

    I rode the mallets and if your cleat setup is right it’s very easy to unclip. You also don’t have to be clipped in to ride the pedals which gives you more time to “find” the pedal to clip back in. I only ride flats to learn proper techniques for bunny hoping and other trial skills.

  • @kevinw6282
    @kevinw62822 жыл бұрын

    I have run clipless (SPD) for 25+ years I guess....didn't spend much time on flats once I seriously got into MTB back in high school. The trails I rode starting out in MI, USA were super rooty - it didn't take too many times of feet flying off flat pedals before I wanted my feet more solidly connected to the bike. Back then, flat pedals were a bit different than they are now though, as is way inferior. This dates me, but I think I initially rode actual toe clips....Lord, would never do that again. I recently switched from the SPD single release direction (sideways only) cleat to the multi-release cleat. I don't know why I didn't do that a long time ago. With the right tension set on the pedals, the multi release cleat increased my confidence on the techy climbs and for dabbing almost exponentially. Maybe it's best to learn with the single release cleat until it's absolutely muscle memory, kicking your heal out to release, but for someone with some experience on them, the multi release cleat is definitely worth trying in the SPD world of clipless pedals. Great vid, keep up the great work GMBN!!

  • @uldi1s
    @uldi1s2 жыл бұрын

    Tried clipless for two years in the 90's, when everyone was raving about them. Result: killed my passion for MTB'ing, left it for many years. I guess no system is any good if it makes you not ride anymore... :/ Now, upon my return, I'm on flats, of course, and couldn't be happier :)

  • @Icehso140
    @Icehso1402 жыл бұрын

    Good video. No way I want to spend the time learning to get my feet out of clips fast enough in a crash. Maybe when I stop crashing. LOL I'm noticing more Orbea bikes in the videos. Glad I'm not the only one riding an Orbea. Good bikes and components.

  • @michaeledwards5241

    @michaeledwards5241

    2 жыл бұрын

    I’ve owned a Rallon and now I have an Occam and a Wild FS. Brilliant bikes, never had a problem with any of them.

  • @Paganiproductions84

    @Paganiproductions84

    2 жыл бұрын

    I own 2 Orbea ALMA's

  • @BobMcKerrell
    @BobMcKerrell2 жыл бұрын

    I have always ridden clipless(~25yrs) and recently switched from SPD to the Crank Bros mallet. I have gotten stuck in the pedals several times now causing me to fall over including breaking my wrist the last time. I will go back to the SPD as they are much more natural to emergency exit from. I like the bigger platform of the CB but they just don't let go of your shoe fast enough. Also I think Jack had the same problem I did at first with clipping in to the CB pedals you need the shims under the cleats

  • @MattSwain1
    @MattSwain12 жыл бұрын

    My pedals are SPD on one side and flat on the other. I don’t ride a lot of really technical stuff so mostly prefer to be attached to the pedals but it’s nice to have the flat option when I get to something that’s beyond what I’m comfortable with

  • @landisdell8996
    @landisdell89962 жыл бұрын

    I had a rocky start with clips. I tried them, quit for a while, and went back. My biggest mistake was to not unclip early enough. I would try to ‘save’ it, end up with no momentum while still solidly attached, and go down with the bike. It led to a lot of crashes that were worse than they needed to be. However, now, I love how the bike follows me and the extra power I get!

  • @westhoefer
    @westhoefer Жыл бұрын

    I have been riding CB click pedals for quit some time. Never failed to disengage until today. I was doing hill climbing intervals, was pretty exhausted, it was raining and the ground very muddy. After the last climb I returned to a bench in the forrest were I wanted to take a rest. Next to bench was a muddy pool of water. The first time ever I have forgotten that I was clicked in. I stopped and fell like a tree right into the muddy pool. Being clicked in to the bike helps a lot when you do long climbs without worrying about the the position of your feet on the pedals.

  • @jordantaffel8190
    @jordantaffel81902 жыл бұрын

    I've been riding clips for 25 years, just got flats for the first time. I think I like them they give me more confidence knowing I can easily bail.

  • @gunny6517
    @gunny65172 жыл бұрын

    Great Video.. Back in the 1970-1980’s I rode caged pedals on my road bike (that was natural, but horrifying at the same time).. Than I got injured (military) and stopped riding (2 decades). Started walking, jogging and worked my way back into the bike world in 2020 (hello 2021 Trek Roscoe 6 = Thanks to Trek @ Williamsburg, VA). I started riding the bike with flats, but than worked into Crank Brothers; however, I ended up switching over to Shimano SPD (Multi Release) due to Peripheral Neuropathy (80% foot numbness)…. With foot Neuropathy, I find riding to be much more enjoyable if I’m cleated in.. So, if you suffer from Foot Neuropathy, try cleats (SPD Multi Release to be exact), you may find that your favorite sport has returned…. Good Luck and keep peddling…🇺🇸

  • @TypeIIAdventures
    @TypeIIAdventures2 жыл бұрын

    I suffered a spinal injury and struggle to keep my feet on flats, but I lack the ankle control to use clips. So I went with magnetic pedals. I’ve really liked them. I’d rather use clips, but I think they can act as a first step for those who are concerned with fully committing to clips.

  • @thepolarostrich
    @thepolarostrich Жыл бұрын

    I ride both. Mostly clips nowadays though. Started using clipless pedals a few years ago after many years on flats, and liked it straight away even though it was a bit scary at first. After a couple of years on SPDs I gave Crankbrothers a try. Had exactly the same problem as Jack. They are super hard to clip into. You need to have your pedal/foot at a forward tilted angle slightly but they are still super stiff. They loosen up a bit over time, but after a few months I´m back on SPDs. Sooo much easier. Love Crankbrothers Stamps though.

  • @Bobbleoff
    @Bobbleoff2 жыл бұрын

    Rode flats for 25 years switched to clips a few years back. Never going back. And touch wood not had any clip related falls yet. But I did plan on switching so spent a season on flats but taking my foot of as if I was on clips to get the muscle memory ready

  • @MartinTeerly
    @MartinTeerly9 ай бұрын

    Last autumn I got beat up by clips. Got scared few times. Fell badly on my knee. Still have that fear in my head but I installed them today again. I got easy out clits and I'm ready for round two 😂

  • @guitarnerd_luke
    @guitarnerd_luke Жыл бұрын

    Crashed yesterday on my first long ride with clips, when I had to choose a trail on a crossroad and wasn't thinking bout those clips...my elbow looks great in green and blue =P

  • @andreturnerjr8950
    @andreturnerjr89502 жыл бұрын

    I mostly ride flats, but switch to clips in the winter. The winter clip in shoes are just much better. That is literally the only reason I wear them on my mtb. I wish there were other options besides Five Ten Trailcross GTX and Freerider EPS.

  • @fpainchaud350
    @fpainchaud3502 жыл бұрын

    I now use magnetic clips! This is great and it holds just enough to feel locked in but yet you are not... this is the great part!

  • @ericgodfrey5751
    @ericgodfrey57512 жыл бұрын

    I won't touch clipless for two reasons. 1. I don't want to have to buy specialty shoes. 2. I like the idea of being able to bail without a single thought involved, not to mention the foot freedom on the pedal that flats allow

  • @theymademepickaname1248

    @theymademepickaname1248

    Жыл бұрын

    Most people buy specialty shoes for flats as well.

  • @michaelajlawlor
    @michaelajlawlor2 жыл бұрын

    I made the switch to clips halfway through last season and it’s sooo much better. There are moments when I still get scared and I feel like I may not push myself or trust my skill, but I think that will get better with time. They’re so helpful on climbs, though. Way more efficient.

  • @Sheppy99

    @Sheppy99

    Жыл бұрын

    I road for the very first time with clips yesterday and you explained exactly how I feel too! I am definitely more sketched out when I come to techy parts of the trail but the ease of climbing and pedaling through chunky stuff is amazing. I wish I had of done the switch earlier!

  • @aaronmosser
    @aaronmosser2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks. Just started clipless with Shimano SPD. I must adjust cleats but doing okay so far. Need more confidence in steep climbs

  • @gmbn

    @gmbn

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hi Aaron, love to see your rocking clipless! It's a tricky transition but best of luck and have fun learning :)

  • @Celeon999A
    @Celeon999A2 жыл бұрын

    I tried clipless and liked it for as long as everything worked out. But then i had some pretty dangerous surprise situations in which i struggled to get off my pedals and only narrowly avoided some big potentially hospital-grade crashes. Decided to let it be then and returned to flat pedals, never looking back since. While its easy to unclip under normal conditions, when you have time to prepare and plan when and how to do it, it can become just undoable in those split-second bad surprise situations. You panic and try to get your feet off but you are unable to do the correct movements and those pedals just refuse to let you go. Its a horrible feeling when this happens.

  • @itscrazycocotime4518

    @itscrazycocotime4518

    2 жыл бұрын

    I love clips and doubt I'll convert back, I tried shimano first but like you I found myself not being able to dab a foot to save a front wheel slide for example and ended on the ground still attached to the bike, so gave up before I hurt myself badly. The urge not to be defeated was too strong and after a while tried again but with the crankbrothers system, imho a much better system for mtb, as the cleats are brass and not steel they wear down nicely fairly quickly (if you ride regularly) and this allows you to "panic pull" your feet off the pedals without the outward twist of the ankle that was required with the shimano's. I find the cb's just easier to clip in and out off while still being secure when clipped in. Glad I gave it another go as it works for me and I prefer it to flats, it did take a bit of time to get the confidence and speed I had on the flat pedals though. 👍🏻

  • @Celeon999A

    @Celeon999A

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@itscrazycocotime4518 Yeah it was indeed that shimano system i had those problems with. I will take a look at that crankbrothers clips you mentioned.

  • @siteofdaniel

    @siteofdaniel

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Celeon999A I have the exact same experience as you. I first tried CB with the easy cleats and then tried the shimanos. I haven't got used to either systems but what I can say is that I prefer the Shimanos when clipping in and out but prefer the CBs when pedalling.

  • @owca6666

    @owca6666

    2 жыл бұрын

    Same with me, almost fell off a cliff due to not being able to put foot down fast enough, i gave clips good 6 months before deciding it aint for me.

  • @franzroast6658

    @franzroast6658

    Жыл бұрын

    @@owca6666 you have to use your brakes dude

  • @r0pey2009
    @r0pey20092 жыл бұрын

    I started out with rat traps back in the 80s. The move to clipless was SO easy after that lol. Been on TimeAtacs for well over 20 years. I love feeling connected to the bike when clipped in. Still everyone to their own eh? 👍

  • @allenjanes5976
    @allenjanes59762 жыл бұрын

    Been clipping in for 3 years now. Get clipped out ok, mostly due to fear of not getting out. But still struggle clipping back in quickly. Nice job folks

  • @FajnyFilip2137
    @FajnyFilip21372 жыл бұрын

    Clips are nice, they give you a lot of benefits, I don't personally need so I ride flats.

  • @stuartmoseley
    @stuartmoseley2 жыл бұрын

    I ride flats on my trail bike and clips on my Hardtail.

  • @danielhicks5031
    @danielhicks50312 жыл бұрын

    Clips r the way to go. I had crank brothers at first but was given shimano XTR pedals and I’m dialed in now. These have adjustable float and you can set how much twisting is required for it to release. Don’t go hit the hardest climbs when getting used to clips. If your worried about dabbing u can practice riding cul-de-sacs and unclip around the turn knowing your tire won’t wash out since your on pavement. Now I’m confident to unclip and clip back in mid run. I got to the point where I practice my track stands in clips and don’t worry about falling over. It takes practice and time but there r too many benefits to give up cause u fall over once

  • @desmondstrydom4430
    @desmondstrydom44302 жыл бұрын

    I ride both. On my Hardtail with fast trails I ride clips but recently went back to flats on my full suspention when riding more technical trails as I could not unclip fast enough on rooted steep inclines when backwheel spinning out. Got injured on last ride and thus reason for going back to flats for these rides. At 56 recovery is not that quick.

  • @snbsmtb
    @snbsmtb2 жыл бұрын

    Great video Dudes! I'm still not switching to clip-less pedals because of price and well the un-clipping problem with beginners! But there's the problem with flats too 'THE SHINNERS'

  • @hawkeyelikesbikes

    @hawkeyelikesbikes

    2 жыл бұрын

    Just wear shin guards with flats and elbow guards with clips, and your fears will disappear. It's funny: I stopped tipping over with clips when I started wearing elbow guards, because falling over didn't hurt as much. Instead of being scared and getting target fixation, I was able to focus on my body shape and line through the obstacle. It was all in my head.

  • @snbsmtb

    @snbsmtb

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the Advice Dude!! That was helpful!! And Yeah clearly it's all in your mind!!

  • @simonkwan
    @simonkwan2 жыл бұрын

    When I saw the title, I knew this is me!

  • @Rousseaufam
    @Rousseaufam2 жыл бұрын

    I rode clips for a while, however have moved back to flats permanently now as I had an injury a few years back and it no longer feels good ridding clipped in.

  • @chriskochan5798
    @chriskochan57982 жыл бұрын

    I mostly ride shimano SPDs and have been trying to ride flats for the extra confidence in being able to dab out of situations easier. However, with sharp pins and sticky 5-10 soles I get knee pain with the flats from lack of float. Still don’t have an answer to that. 😬

  • @sandy_knight
    @sandy_knight2 жыл бұрын

    There are lots of reasons I don't run clipless: 1. Dodgy knees (2x ACL repairs, cartilage damage etc) 2. Convenience, I don't want to have to change shoes just to ride my bike to the shop/pub. With flats I can wear my regular skate shoes or for a proper ride my 5/10s. 3. I guess because of point 1 above, I like the bit of cushioning/give between my feet and the bike that you get with a soft soled shoe. I also like to be able to move my foot a bit fore/aft on the pedal.

  • @CalQaida
    @CalQaida7 ай бұрын

    Just started riding eggbeaters and they are so hard to clip into I find. They are not adjustable in any way so I may have to play with clip placement on my shoes. I do like the solid feeling it gives you vs flats I rode before. Also, feels slightly easier to ride uphill.

  • @angellnathan
    @angellnathan2 жыл бұрын

    I tried clips for a while. Could unclip my left foot everytime, right foot was hit and miss due to mobility issue from old injuries. Led to some hilarious falls!!

  • @davelom22
    @davelom222 жыл бұрын

    I've never ridden without. In the mid-90s I started with those horrible plastic cages which were not only clunky, they also stole the word "clipped" from the current clipless pedals. I know a lot of people are afraid of getting into bad wrecks and not getting their feet out but the truth is the faster and more jarring the accident, the more likely your shoes are to come right off the clipless peddles. Most of the times that I fall without getting my feet out are on technical uphill climbs. But I'd rather have that than my foot slip off the pedal and get smacked in the shin.

  • @m0nss7erKill
    @m0nss7erKill2 жыл бұрын

    The transition to clipless for me was pretty easy, maybe because I was preparing myself mentally for years, before I made the switch. I have 2 pairs of shoes. One is old shimano XC shoes, and the other ones are NW. I find it hard to find where the cleats are on the NW, because they are not in the middle like the shimano ones I have, so yea, sometimes its a bit harder to clip in.

  • @benfairhall5331

    @benfairhall5331

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ahhh so that’s a nw thing cause I struggle to clip in mine too

  • @m0nss7erKill

    @m0nss7erKill

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@benfairhall5331 I just can't find the cleat. It's pretty easy with the old Shimano shoe, I think because it's centered. Do you maybe have another pair of shoes or you transitioned from shoes with centered cleats ?

  • @benfairhall5331

    @benfairhall5331

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@m0nss7erKill nah I run the nw ghost xcm 2 and escape evo with spd clip set up and the evos are easier then the ghosts. I rode a road bike years ago clipped in and never had a issue so I went clipless straight up for the mtb makes sense for me makes the most of my leg power and keeps feet on for gnarly stuff I just wind the tension right back. I don’t think any of them were centered

  • @StoffelDilligas
    @StoffelDilligas2 жыл бұрын

    On my hard tail I clip in, I find on uphills I could pull up on the pedal on the up stroke and push down on the other. I have them as loose as possible, so pulling directly up my feet remain attached. But if anything goes sideways, I clip out real quick. No matter how bad your opinion on clips is.... Clips are much improved over the straps/cages from years ago. Those were f-ing lethal.

  • @robertmoore1132
    @robertmoore113215 күн бұрын

    I rode clips on road bikes before i swiched to MTB, the amount of times i fell off because i forgot my foot was locked to the pedal was unreal, ive still got the pedals and the cleets somewhere but im hesitant to use them, falling on a path is fine but falling in a forest where rocks and that hide isnt something im overly willing to try 🤣

  • @middle-agedmtbhack8298
    @middle-agedmtbhack82982 жыл бұрын

    Have been on clipless for 10 years and about to fit flats to improve my manual and jumping technique (tried this 9 months ago with clipless and twisted my knee badly). I have a minor concern that switching from flats (once I can manual and jump properly) back to clipless is going to be difficult. What's your thoughts on this? Awsome channel by the way.

  • @marcofusco45
    @marcofusco452 жыл бұрын

    Am only riding for a year and have seitched to clipless recently 😬. I can get my feet out ok but like Jack I really struggle getting my foot clipped back in. It's a nightmare if you have to stop somewhere tricky because trying to get going again is tough

  • @PatkosCsaba

    @PatkosCsaba

    2 жыл бұрын

    Just do once or twice a week a 20-30 minutes exercise of clipping in and out. I did this. I just picked a super easy flat trail, clip in, ride about 50 meters, stop, clip out, repeat for half an hour. After a month it will be easy. But it will take longer to become a reflex.

  • @nmnate
    @nmnate2 жыл бұрын

    I can see how being able to crank in the rough stuff would have its advantages. I've never really worried about efficiency that much (I can stand and spin with flats, but I mostly will mash instead). I feel like flats will teach you how to weight / unweight the bike while staying on the pedals...Something you wouldn't really have to worry about with clipless. I also find it really hard to explain to a new rider why they're called clipless, as I've never had toe clips... One of these years I'll give clipless a solid go (especially now with a road bike on the way). I think there are probably some solid advantages for doing really technical climbs where being able to spin a little more efficiently makes the difference between losing traction or bouncing off your line. But I do worry about the saves. I think I'd need to hone my unclip-spidey-sense before I'd be really comfortable. In a given day at a bike park I might have 4-5 saves where putting a foot down quickly keeps me from going OTB. FWIW, I've only shinned myself maybe 2x this last year. Feels like you might trade some rather minor injuries for some potentially major ones and I might miss the easy ability to goof off on the trail with less (perceived) risk.

  • @thomasmedeiros5722
    @thomasmedeiros5722 Жыл бұрын

    I have been riding clipped in on road and mountain bike for decades. I have worked in the bike industry. This channel is sponsored by Crankbrothers. However the absolute best clipless pedal to learn on is a Shimano pedal which has adjustable release tension and offers a multi directional release cleat the SH 56 M. The Crankbrothers pedal is not adjustable for tension release and only offers sing direction release on their cleats. If you’re doing a video on learning to ride clipless you should use a product that offers the easiest release possible. Don’t misunderstand my comment. Crankbrothers makes a great pedal but for the purpose of this video they should have used a pedal that offers adjustment of releasing and multiple angles of release.

  • @willienillie6337
    @willienillie63372 жыл бұрын

    I think the trick is to learn to dismount quickly off the clip pedals because you don’t want to go down with your bike if the bike goes down. Captain does not always have to go down with his ship. You can always get a new one 👍

  • @marcianodemidof7135
    @marcianodemidof71352 жыл бұрын

    Great video. But for me..., nah. Keeping ma flats dude. Happy riding everybody ✌🏾.

  • @stefanodruetta
    @stefanodruetta2 жыл бұрын

    I can't ride but clipped in. I've tried a few times with flats, but it feels unnatural and scary, especially on rougher trails. I do ride a HC hardtail thou.

  • @ssjj9584
    @ssjj95842 жыл бұрын

    I just switched to clips to make long climbs easier. Flats don’t bother me at all going downhill. Primarily just switched for uphill benefits. We’ll see if I stick with it.

  • @stinthedude
    @stinthedude2 жыл бұрын

    I always rode flats 20+ years! I tried clipless a handful of times and always after 1 bad crash I'd blame the pedals and take them off. More I rode dh more I realized my feet bouncing around. Finally committed an entire season on clipless and I can say I do like them alot now. 🤘 crank bros mallet for the win 🤙

  • @nathanjack9359

    @nathanjack9359

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'd say your initial experience is the reason you still see flats as the majority . I've ridden clips since I was a kid, I think taking them up at a young age meant the transition was far less noticeable.

  • @JamesLG4
    @JamesLG42 жыл бұрын

    I use flats on the DH/park bike and have no issues at all. I absolutely cannot ride my trail bike with flats. The constant transition from sitting to standing while pedaling the trail bike over rough ground makes it impossible for me to keep my feet on the pedals and in the proper position when using flats. I think flats work on the DH bike because I am always standing and rarely pedaling.

  • @thesmuuuuggh
    @thesmuuuuggh2 жыл бұрын

    I need to be able to yeet my bike off the mountain if things don't go well -- clips are not for me. I respect those that have figure them out!

  • @theanimaster
    @theanimaster2 жыл бұрын

    What’s worse is going from clipless to flats. I would like to forget the many times I slammed the flats into my shin because I forgot i had switched!!! Lately I’ve gotten Shimano SH56 cleats and that’s improved my ability to clip out - so I think I may be ok using clipless on dirt track now. Previously I had the standard Bontrager cleats that came with my shoes and these took a bit of force to unclip - likely unidirectional. I can’t comment on the Shimano SH51 cleats - they’re also unidirectional. The SH56 allows multidirectional unclipping action.

  • @randomistmech
    @randomistmech Жыл бұрын

    with a bit of experience you can absolutely dab, cleat setup is important but muscle memory is huge.

  • @SingleTrackMined
    @SingleTrackMined2 жыл бұрын

    Yes

  • @matthewwylaz2476
    @matthewwylaz24763 ай бұрын

    I’m scared ima scratch my bike riding clips on my self😂😂😂

  • @davidbhlim
    @davidbhlim2 жыл бұрын

    I’ve recently (about 5-6 weeks now) gone from flats to SPD’s and I have the single release cleats. I’m a daily rider clocking between 13-16 hours a week but maybe only 3-5 of those are on trails. Have not been able to build the confidence of being clipped in while on techie stuff though. Wondering if Crankbrothers might have been a better choice to learn on?

  • @_Inferis

    @_Inferis

    2 жыл бұрын

    Try the multi release, I had the same issues and the multi release cleats are way more confidence inspiring, you can always turn up the tension on spd to make unclipping harder once you progress.

  • @davidbhlim

    @davidbhlim

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@_Inferis Thanks! Do the multi release unclip easily by accident? I saw another GMBN video where it said they might. I’ve been meaning to loosen the tension on my current pedals in hopes that I’ll feel more confident I like how Neil mentioned in this video to try getting used to unclipping using my heels instead of knees and he made it look so easy. Will have to also give that a try

  • @chrismade123
    @chrismade1232 жыл бұрын

    can you test magnetic clips pedals?

  • @mojo3398
    @mojo33982 жыл бұрын

    ask my father who has broken every bone known to man in countless clip pedal related incidents. it might run in the family, i will never ever touch those things. the flats rammed to often in the my shins, they are completly numb, so that's fine for me.

  • @The2808erik
    @The2808erik2 жыл бұрын

    I made the mistake of setting the clip retention way to strong, coming from a road bike.

  • @Jacob99174
    @Jacob991742 жыл бұрын

    This guy looks like Nick Swardson Great video

  • @ericwerner3691
    @ericwerner36912 жыл бұрын

    I feel like I might be the opposite end of the spectrum here. I started out (many, MANY, moons ago) with some old "bear trap" pedals. And I have the scars on shins and calves to show for it. Decided to try out Eggbeaters, and after a learning curve, with scars to show for that, too, I haven't looked back. Today, I've got some Mallet E long spindles in place, but I have been wondering, should I consider using them as flats sometimes? I've gotten pretty used to the unclip process, to the point where I have even unclipped in the middle of an OTB in an attempt to throw the bars underneath me (that didn't work, I belly flopped onto the trail. Again, scars to prove it). Would my riding improve if I got used to not being connected to the bike at all times?

  • @aldoramonz
    @aldoramonz2 жыл бұрын

    I have clips and have them really loose. So it’s easy to get in and out.

  • @jimbo4203
    @jimbo42032 жыл бұрын

    Rode clipped in for years , have been on flats for last few years and will never go back !

  • @Flyanb
    @Flyanb2 жыл бұрын

    Jack holds his own 🤟He is NOT any idiot!!!! He’s been spending too much time with the rest of you guys and it’s rubbed off on him. That guy has skills. He’s clearly fallen down the rabbit hole 🍺

  • @kingrat738
    @kingrat7382 жыл бұрын

    The secret to unclipping is having weight on the mechanism... Nothing worse than needing to unclip when your pedal is unweighted. Clipless is more efficient, but you always have to be mindful of when and how you may need to get your foot out at short notice.

  • @GR-qf5us
    @GR-qf5us2 жыл бұрын

    This idiot has used both and after a decade of riding clipped in, returned to flat pedals. Best decision EVER!!!

  • @gmbn

    @gmbn

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's good you have spent some good time on both to figure out what works best for you. A lot of riders seem to pick their side without giving the other a good try!

  • @jacobuserasmus
    @jacobuserasmus2 жыл бұрын

    I find it more difficult the other way around. I always used clipless pedals. To go on technical trails and jumps with flats is SCARY especially going fast. I actually had to grab some brakes on some descent which I'm used to going flat out. Thx Good fun to watch.

  • @i2LMedia

    @i2LMedia

    2 жыл бұрын

    Couldn’t agree more with this

  • @JEMTB90
    @JEMTB902 жыл бұрын

    100% ride flats. I've thought about Clips, but I don't wanna buy new pedals and shoes for something that I could hate.

  • @worshipingIAM
    @worshipingIAM9 ай бұрын

    i ride flats, i do want to try clipless for more efficient climbs

  • @junalonto4523
    @junalonto45232 жыл бұрын

    I used cleats on my Marlin 7

  • @paulbygrave6859
    @paulbygrave68592 жыл бұрын

    I tried clips recently didn't go to well went over the handlebars with bike attached and split my lip open inside and out so that's the end of them for now

  • @MrSimone53
    @MrSimone532 жыл бұрын

    What trail is it @6:27

  • @SubmarinersDive
    @SubmarinersDive2 жыл бұрын

    I'd find my death if I tried for sure! 🤣

  • @stardustgirl1061
    @stardustgirl10612 жыл бұрын

    Been riding clipped in since the 90’s. Oddly it feels safer. I’m worried about being bucked off the bike. Crashed many times throughout the decades and never serious injury with clipless.

  • @wiljaq2773
    @wiljaq27732 жыл бұрын

    Started out as a roadie and started MTBIng with clips…MISTAKE! Where I ride it’s lot more rocky and rooty and techie then where you 2 rode. I’d like to clip but I don’t want to get injured!!!

  • @ronaldwestra8735
    @ronaldwestra87352 жыл бұрын

    Clips on my XC MTB

  • @nucleardwarf1218
    @nucleardwarf12182 жыл бұрын

    Why the hell are they called "clipless" when we refer to them as being "clipped in"??????????????

  • @MattSwain1

    @MattSwain1

    2 жыл бұрын

    It comes from road biking where they used to have toe-straps (or clips) on the pedals until the more modern systems were invented without the toe-straps/clips so it’s the absence of them that made them become known as clipless

  • @gmbn

    @gmbn

    2 жыл бұрын

    What Matt said 👆

  • @stevencole7331
    @stevencole73312 жыл бұрын

    He is a decent rider and did very well for his first time on a MTB . It would be cool if they could developed a combination pedal that could do both .

  • @jonathanzappala

    @jonathanzappala

    2 жыл бұрын

    Shimano trekking pedals. There are a few models.

  • @stevencole7331

    @stevencole7331

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jonathanzappala I don't see any designed for MTB . It looks to be a more urban and road cycling . Surprise there was something but I believe there is a market for them . They make the clipless soft shoes . I have seen so many buds tip over in spots clipped in

  • @Lutze3D
    @Lutze3D2 жыл бұрын

    I tried mutliple clipless platforms, but it's always the same... once I'm clipped in I lose all my confidence and I switch back to flats.

  • @solidsnake2030
    @solidsnake20305 ай бұрын

    Definitely flats.. but thinking about getting magnetic pedals to get both of the worlds

  • @theymademepickaname1248
    @theymademepickaname1248 Жыл бұрын

    Why is this such a polarizing topic? I switch between the two depending on what I'm riding and how I feel. It doesn't have to be either or.

  • @turnpike420
    @turnpike4202 жыл бұрын

    Flats for life!🤘🏻My buddies joke with me all the time but I just won’t try clips.🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @Alan-75
    @Alan-752 жыл бұрын

    Always flats on mtb and clipped in on road bike.

  • @COOKIE_wcc_
    @COOKIE_wcc_2 жыл бұрын

    I started on flats being 11 wet through found I was bouncing of on ruff stuff leaned on road bike to clip in and out put them my mtb never looked back going up techy stuff being clipped in I find better my fear of falling off breaking bones and being stuck to bike is myth I broke my shoulder bike went one way me the other

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