Hello, it's the owner here. No, I'm not the expert Miles suggests I am :D However here are some stuff I forgot to mention due to my last 4 brain cells committing suicide. Maybe you've noticed the weird handle bar. This is the Woodcraft clipon adapter. It brings the handle bar 1.5 inches lower and a little bit farther ahead. This really helps with highway speeds as the stock handlebar is really upright and you catch all the damn wind. With that said the most important upgrade for me was the steering damper. It removes almost all jerks in the handlebar, which are plenty without it and highway riding was straight up scary. Thanks Miles, great review!

@FreeMilesMC

Ай бұрын

Thank you again for suporting the Channel in this way. And i really like how you personalised your bike☺️

@DrNerf

Ай бұрын

@@FreeMilesMC my pleasure

@KjKase

Ай бұрын

Thanks, I was wondering about the bars. I adjusted my suspension properly and riding position and that took most of the wobbles out of the front at highway speeds on my gen 4. I still wouldn't mind a little more forward handlebars, so I'm thinking I might get something similar with a damper, too.

@DrNerf

Ай бұрын

@@KjKase I highly recommend it. Woodcraft is only sold in the US and would require an import in the EU, but there are other alternatives for lower handlebars. I believe Protaper had something.

@Laurencjusz01

Ай бұрын

Where can i get a sterring dumper for gen4 mt09?

I drive the small Brother from it, the MT 07 (2021) and I love it, as Woman I don't need more power. 74 HP by 184 kg with legendary CP2 engine is enough for me.

@FreeMilesMC

Ай бұрын

I actually i am very curius about the mt 07 as i think it’s probably the more fun Maschine and would probably also be cool for the Channel ☺️

@lauraiss1027

Ай бұрын

In my country we get our licenses on predefined institution bikes, and mine was MT 07 2021. After that I drove several bikes but still have not felt even remotely as good handling bike as these MT07. They are amazing, tight turning angles, very flippable, great motorcycle. If I did not have to do cruising daily and could do with naked, MT07 would be my first choice. Especially if riding in city.

@tobiasviktorsson7672

Ай бұрын

Really great and fun bike. I

@chriswest2290

Ай бұрын

Ride* I had a 2014 mt07. Great engine, an absolute gem. But it was the worst handling bike I ever owned. The front end feels even dangerous with alot of lean. It's almost like a design fault.

@ewganhoff

Ай бұрын

I'm a guy and I've been riding 25 years since I got my moped on my 16th birthday here in Scotland. Trust me when I say that around 70hp is perfect for the road. I've had mopeds, monkey bikes, dirt bikes, naked bikes, sports bikes etc. The fastest bike I've owned had about 110hp even though that is not much power compared to a litre bike, I spent A LOT of time above 120mph(200kph) on 60mph limit roads because I enjoy trying to use everything a bike has. My current bike is a very modest 18 year old ER6F, and I absolutely love it! It is still very fast on the road, it gets to 100mph in no time, but after that it's not as fast as some bikes I have owned, and that is a good thing. I can absolutely thrash my little er6 through the twisties, using full throttle and all the revs without going extreme speeds all the time.

Great review. I applaud your speaking on the discipline and awareness you exercise regarding mode choice for the road configuration and debris conditions. Brilliant! So many riders are no longer with us or are watching this during recovery from an accident due to poor judgement.

Four cylinders sound great but 3 cylinders bikes sound even better! With 4s, one piston is moving 4 pistons, with all of them, being at awkward leverage points on the crank -- all at either top or bottom dead center. But with a 3, you have only one piston at top dead center and the other two are at 120 and 240 degrees, which makes them easier to move or accelerate with the one piston that is on its power stroke. Additionally, two of those pistons are about to slingshot around bottom and top dead center; this also helps facilitate easier crank rotation. This is why I love 3s so much, along with that unbeatable exhaust note! They are the best of a 2 cylinder, without all of the drawbacks, and the best of a 4 cylinder, without all of the drawbacks.

@johnnyblue4799

Ай бұрын

Lovely engine yes, but you're dead wrong. Firstly, the MT09 has a crossplane crankshaft. It's not 120 degrees in between. Then, a normal 4 cylinder always has one cylinder on the power stroke. A 3 cylinder doesn't. Also, for the same capacity a four cylinder bike has smaller pistons. Less mass so revs easier. You can hear the MT-09 is not really happy in the higher revs. It's not as happy to rev as a 4 cylinder. And my last point, a 4 cylinder is perfectly balanced for the primary vibrations. The 3 cyl needs counterbalancer shafts to smooth out the vibrations. So no, the 3 cylinders is not really better. Just cheaper to make.

@DrNerf

Ай бұрын

@@johnnyblue4799 I believe you are correct. Also, we forgot to mention that the MT09 is viby as hell. You can feel vibrations all over the place. I'm not sure if it's explicitly related to the 3 cyl or just a CP3 issue. At this point I'm just used to it and it doesn't bother me.

@markhall3434

Ай бұрын

Bring back the Original 3 cylinder, but add technology. 2 stroke, 750 ccKaw H2, water cooled so it's narrow, and No Pings/rattles with water cooling. Add Fuel injection so it's smooth and powerful everywhere. Maybe direct injection for emissions. The old Evinrude outboards made a stab with 2 cycle making emissions and were doin' it! Totally smooth.. not much smoke. Finally, Evinrude gave up as the noose tightened.

@lateralus9244

Ай бұрын

@@johnnyblue4799 The "not as happy" 3 cylinder at high revs of the MT-09 is NOT due to the primary imbalance; it's more likely due to its off set crankshaft and possibly, some is due to the longer stroke ratio it has compared to most bike engines. Also, Yamahas are not known for always being the smoothest sounding engines (2s, 3s, or 4s). I know this because, I used to own one (a 4 cylinder). So take the new 3 cylinder Triumph 765 RS Street Triple, for example (which does NOT have an offset crank, nor a long stroke ratio), it is the smoothest (decently) high revving engine (12,400rpms) I have ever ridden, rivaling many fours -- including the one I used to own. And also, what the 4 cylinder may gain in primary imbalance, it loses in its secondary imbalance. Not to be disrespectful, but you seem to have forgotten about that other imbalance problem that 4 cylinders have . Plus, like you said, the 3 has a balancing shaft to engineer out most of its imbalance -- plus, these are all small engines. Additionally, the MT-09 may be called a cross plane by Yamaha (or, a CP-3), mostly for marketing purposes, but regardless, it is still a bit of a misnomer. A standard 3 cylinder would be more accurately described as a Y plane -- even though no one calls it this. This is because the pistons ARE actually set apart by 120 degrees from each other, despite your claim to the contrary -- look it up for yourself. The firing interval however (which I believe I mentioned before), was 240 degrees apart. This leaves approximately only 60 degrees of unpowered rotation per power stroke. The off set crank in the MT-09 changes this a little, making the power stroke slightly longer. Only the 3 cylinder Triumph Tiger has something closer to an actual cross plane ( + ); however, Triumph calls it a "T" plane crank. The configuration is something like a cross plane 4 cylinder, but with a missing cylinder. The MT-09 and the Triumph Street & Speed Triples are ALL NOT LIKE the Tiger's crank or the CP-4. I know you said that I am dead wrong but I've done my research on all these bikes and besides, there are plenty of videos on all of this to confirm what I have stated above. There doesn't seem to be anything or much of what you've mentioned that undermines what I've said. You can have your preference for a 4 cylinder but I like the 3 cylinder. I find them much more fun to ride (IMHO) with their (generally) flatter torque curves and their punchy larger cylinders and especially, their insanely cool exhaust note. Fours are still great but I prefer a three over a four.

@maguslascivious4980

Ай бұрын

r1 begs to differ. Crossplane cranks make a huge difference.

Dude! 2023 XSR9 here. that first pull you didn't even use the quick shifter! The QS is the whipped cream on top!! Your next mod should be -1,+2 sprockets. I don't do over 120 so there is no down side except this makes 1st gear pretty short. Irrellevant with the QS! Three cylinders is NOT Thumpy like a 2 cyl. Plus bike is narrower. I think the MT/XSR 9's should become legendary like the Proverbial first 3 cylinder.. The Kaw H2 750 2 stroke. If they had fuel injection back in '73 that paint shaker 2 stroke would of been so much smoother.

Love your analysis. Motorbike riders generally desire fast bikes to satisfy their ego. Sage advice brother. I’d recommend the street triple as it’s more tame.

Excellent review! You hit all the points! Thats why I got the MT07 because I don't want to get arrested or die. You only use 1/3 of it on the streets unless you take it to the track. Thank you!

Your right on the money with what you say, i have a first gen xsr900 and it's blisteringly fast. The first time i gave it full acceleration frankly i was shocked at how quick it and powerful it was, slingshotting you down the road hanging on for dear life! they can get you in to serious trouble, I nearly always have it in B mode and tc2 these days when around town, and that's still more than enough for most roads, i switch over to standard if on motorways or duel carriageways and never use a mode. But you still need to be aware of just how fast and powerful these bikes are.

@soggysocks25

Ай бұрын

I have..2018...ur comments ...I agree..mental.bike

Love the review. Feel free to try my T7 Word Raid (slightly customized), loving the CP2. I traded in my R1200GSA for it. It will fit your frame perfectly. I’m not missing the power at all, such a supple engine. And amazing fuel economy.

@FreeMilesMC

Ай бұрын

I would love to feel free to send me an email. I would love to review that amazing machine ☺️

Hope you liked staying in Bulgaria. Great review.

I have both bikes I own a 2022 MT09 sp and an MT10 SP 2018 yes the 09 is great fun but it's not a hyper naked the MT10 is. The sheer grunt of that 1000cc CP4 engine leaves the 09 miles behind there is no competition. Your trying to compare apples to oranges engine wise. And yes I have just ordered the 2024 MT09SP . At the end of the day with any bike its down to rider ability the MT 09 is the perfect balance of usable power and great handling and would recommend it to anyone as there 1st bike bike over a MT10

@WorksopGimp

Ай бұрын

init he said is bike slides my doesnt

I've only ridden one triple, a 955 Triumph, but I loved that engine. Reminds me much more of a V4 than an inline 4. Inline 4s are always buzzy and feel rather dull unless you're making them scream. The triple didn't buzz me and just felt creamy everywhere.

I actually feel safer on this than when I rode the MT-07, the 09, feels so stable in corners, high speed, low speed, power in every gear and rev range, so many electronic safety features the 07 lacked.

Is this young David Gilmoure?

@FreeMilesMC

Ай бұрын

Haha maybe ☺️

@DrNerf

Ай бұрын

hmmm, gotta check if he had any concerts in Bulgaria in early 95 🧐

let it rev , you shifting too son :)))

I have the 3rd gen sp. Absolute blast, best bike for the money. Can do anything bike. Built like a tank too

I have an xsr900 2024, after 800 miles. It's being sold. Why? The suspension has been set up correctly but for our UK roads, it struggles. The vibrations through the grips and pegs are awful. Even after fitting grip puppies and rubber foot pegs.

My favorite bike 😍 Thanks for a nice review. I would get A2 version, too much power for me lol

@FreeMilesMC

Ай бұрын

I definitly can understand the apeal of it ☺️

Every motorcycle is dangerous. Blaming the bike for being a hooligan when you are in control. Lmao. If they can't go hooligan when you want to what good are they. Riding is all about fun and being completely immersed in the moment. Sometime that means relaxed cruising on the back roads and sometimes it means pushing your abilities in the twisties and popping the front up coming out of the corners. The MT 09 can do it and the Tracer 9 can do it with your groceries in the panniers. You don't have to tame the beast just your own hooligan tendencies.

I got the new 2024 version and it seems pretty tame compared to what you're describing. I'm guessing it must be the ECU tune, untuned it's not 'unuseable' level of power. I do agree though, sometimes I put it in rain mode when I'm with my buddy who is a nooby just so I don't feel the urge to start speeding and popping wheelies everywhere lol. It really urges you to do bad things all the time when you're in higher power modes.

@sural89

Ай бұрын

not only the tune gen 4 (2024) have a smaller airbox and are down on power by 4-5 hp compare to gen 3 you could really feel it in the firsts gears gen3 feel stronger also if you have a us model they are restricted a lot in the lower gear

@paulhope3401

Ай бұрын

​@sural89 I have the 23 MT09 SP and also felt that he was making it sound a lot more hairy than it is... maybe its just because I'm used to it.... or maybe aftermarket tuned and freely breathing it really does waken it up. The stock tune does knock 20% throttle off in gears 1,2 and 6 after all.

@FreeMilesMC

Ай бұрын

@paulhope3401 i think also a contributing factor was Bulgariens sketchy Asphalt 😂😂. And the tune

@IratusAngelus621

Ай бұрын

I have a Gen1 with Woolich tune and QS/blipper , Air box mod and DnA filter with velocity stacks plus a de cat exhaust. It definitely gets up and boogies at the top end compared to a mates stock Gen3. I’m in B mode on the steer or Std . Problem is too many ruder assists take away the rawness sht ya pants experience away. I’m my case less is best.

If you think this bike will get you in trouble, I should let you hop on my 2003 YZF R1 with a full system, tune and velocity stacks 😈

@FreeMilesMC

Ай бұрын

I actually would be curious☺️😈

@JD-fd6gt

Ай бұрын

@@FreeMilesMC It only weighs about 400 lbs lmao!

You have to ride the better, but more expensive Version. It's the 800 Brutale from MV Augusta. I rode the new tracer 9 and the engine was good, but something was off for me. Maybe the engine is too perfect and not rewarding.... Or was it to rough? I don't know. But it was the first 3 cylinder I rode. Do you search for Bikes to test? I can offer you a Versys 1000 located at Rheinland Pfalz

@FreeMilesMC

Ай бұрын

I would love to try out the 800 Brutale. Yes i would love to Feature a versys 1000 on the Channel. Feel free to Write me an email so we can get in to contact ☺️

No one mentioned wheelies 😮

@FreeMilesMC

Ай бұрын

I did not wheelie the bike as it is not my own 😬

Triples are mostly hooligan bikes which is fine if that’s your thing but I prefer the smoothness of an inline 4 and the top end power.

Very interesting review. Please if you get a chance, take a look at Tracer 7 or Tracer 9, they seem more fitting for touring.

@FreeMilesMC

Ай бұрын

If i get the Chance i will

@tobiasviktorsson7672

Ай бұрын

I fitted soft bags and a wind shield on an 09 sp. I have toured Europe without any issues. Tracer has a little bit more comfort and better fuel tank but this is far more fun.

3-cylinder can replace even 12-cylinder :-D

Now try the street triple :)

@FreeMilesMC

Ай бұрын

I would love too ☺️

@Derpderpson123

Ай бұрын

@@FreeMilesMC if you ever come to belgium you can try mine for sure!

I'm more of a Kwaka fan. The Z900 would be my favorite of the modern mopeds. But as a retarded old man, I'm naturally fixated on the old ZX-7R from the 1990s. I don't really feel like being protected BY my motorcycle BEFORE my motorcycle. But it's a nice example of work for "Motorrad" und "PS"... :))

@FreeMilesMC

Ай бұрын

Actually I have ridden a Z900 privately before and that one is a lot more predictable and rider friendly. The mt 09 really looks like it’s going for the Yamaha vmax kind of reputation in a few years. Actually I probably already mentioned to you in a privious comment. I am constantly looking at old zxr 750s on kleinanzeigen. I love These bikes. But i am probably going with a fzr 600 3he as i already have a broken one and i could use it as a Parts doner and i actualy prefer to stay under 100 hp for now. As i feel like a more powerful bike would hurt my learning courve. Also i love the old fzr as it was my First bike. And i want one befor they get expensive

@giostisskylas

Ай бұрын

It doesn't really matter whether it's a ZXR 750 or an FZR 600 (which looks great). You learn to ride and tinker better with it. Getting a neglected old lady back in shape is also a lot of fun. There are fewer inhibitions about taking the whole thing apart than with the current mopeds. Learning by doing is the best way to learn to tinker with motorcycles. Make a video series if you've got yourself a 1990s superbike.

@FreeMilesMC

Ай бұрын

I already have a fzr in very Bad shape with around 90 thausand on the clock. But i need to get the xj Running First as it’s better to finish one project First

3 cylinders will NEVER replace 4 - 3 cyls is just a worse config for an engine compared to 4. It's the lesser son of a greater sire.

Im bored of Inline 4s. Ive has so many of them. I would only consider one again as a track bike.

hello, did you get your tune done in bulgaria?

@DrNerf

Ай бұрын

Yes, the map was done by the previous owner at Sniper Tuning in Plovdiv

Tri-Umph

@FreeMilesMC

Ай бұрын

Hope i get a Chance to Ride that too

…imagine having a race 🐎 horse but when it comes to riding this animal ,you’re only taking it for a gentle walk around the block….

@FreeMilesMC

Ай бұрын

Yes thats basically it

@MrSparker95

Ай бұрын

I ride an FZ6 and it also offers more power than I can use. I thought same first, that it's probably a bit wasteful. But then I realized duality of the situation. On a bigger motor a fast ride is more exciting, but also a chill ride is more chill. The engine is calmly spinning, I don't have to twist the throttle much, and can just cruise.

@markholmes5695

Ай бұрын

Sure every motorbike over 250 cc will break the speed limit in every country 🤷‍♂️ so if you’re happy with that , stick with that 👍

СВЕТЛИИИИ

No they cant🔥

@DrNerf

Ай бұрын

Based

They made overweight monster ,overpowered so all kinds of electronic half-self-drive is needed in order not to kill the driver .

@paulhope3401

Ай бұрын

Not really. Overweight? I guess its relative to what you are used to but it's actually one of the lightest bikes in its class. Overpowered? Hardly, It only has 117bhp stock which isn't that ridiculous when you consider that there are 200+bhp supernakeds out there. It's power is actually a nice sweet spot for road use in my experience. The E-aids can obviously be turned down or switched off if you prefer... and just provide a nice safety net for newer riders. You could pass your DAS and buy this instead of the usual MT07 option for new riders, it's kinda dual character because you can reduce the power (mode 4) and turn the E-aids up while you get used to it. Jumping the usual MT07 type bike can actually save you money. I'm wondering if you misunderstood him when he discussed its performance, when he said 180... he was talking kmh, not mph. My 23 SP version only does aprox 138mph in stock form . It's only scary if you really want it to be... or maybe if you have never ridden something similarly powered. I like it a lot.

Are you MC ? What colors? 1 procenter? MTC . Don't Call yourself a MC if you are not sir.

@FreeMilesMC

Ай бұрын

Mc is Short for motorcycle

If 3 could have replaced 4 then why did they make 5 six or 8 cylinder engines ? Or 10 or 12 and others ??? Bugatti used 16 of em for a reason .. so I’m guessing Yamaha and triumph use 3 for production costs and because it makes a different ‘feeling’ but that is far from ‘replacing ‘

@lateralus9244

Ай бұрын

Omg, the context is motorcycles and 4 cylinder bikes were, generally, the norm for Japanese bikes in this size and above and also, down to 600cc. He is obviously not talking about replacing all 4 cylinder engines and above. And they did make 6 cylinder bikes but they are too wide and too heavy and fives might have too much of a rocking-couple imbalance to easily engineer out of a bike. Needless to say, 8s would be ridiculously unnecessary on a bike and way too heavy.

That’s a goon motorcycle. It’s handling is not compatible to its power. Sketchy motorcycle at speeds

@DrNerf

Ай бұрын

You are very correct, this bike took a lot of fiddling to get comfortable at high speeds.