I was one of the people that emailed you about this case.. Thank you for covering in your usual beautiful way. I hope his family will get answers soon! I agree with you, I think the RCMP is withholding things because they know more..

@bawattsyl

6 ай бұрын

Thank you! I appreciate it! I had started to cover this case a while back but then got side tracked because I was in the field but I really appreciate you reminding me and I hope the right person will see this Video and provide information to the authorities or if it really was an accident of some kind, I hope he is found soon so his family can get some closure and start to heal🙏🙏

@jilcooper9619

6 ай бұрын

See more coverage on it in Missing 411, UFO connection. Interview with wife says it all

@Toltecgrl

5 ай бұрын

What is RCMP? Whoever they are, they are hiding something. Since when do they call sWAT when somebody is missing in the forest?

@axiomaddict

5 ай бұрын

The RCMP are implicated and enabling if they are withholding crucial facts. I feel for his wife and family.

@gailclark3133

5 ай бұрын

Wow

I'm so glad you're a real human and not a robot telling a story. Thank you very much

@weary1

5 ай бұрын

Likewise! As soon as I find out I have fallen into a “robot voice” video, I move on. Usually there’s no emotion, many mispronunciations, etc.

@bawattsyl

5 ай бұрын

Thank you! And yes don't worry I will always make my videos with my voice and wouldn't use the Ai programs that so many have gone to now. Thank you for watching and your kind feedback🙏🙏

I think Ray was accidently shot by the party people & covered up to protect them. Initially we were informed this was an isolated location, yet witnesses were also nearby who heard shots. Rays fire was still smouldering & his dogs were inside the camper van, indicating he was unexpectedly, disturbed & probably shot. Horrible for his wife & family, I hope he is found.

@collinsfriend1

6 ай бұрын

I wouldn't be surprised. He also may have seen them use drugs or exchange drugs and they wanted no witnesses.

@erichughes284

5 ай бұрын

Could Ray have been the one shooting cuz he didnt like the disrespectful teens

@gwendasandoval467

5 ай бұрын

I agree with you, there was foul play by the party goers. My first alarm bell that went off was the dogs locked up in the camper.

@bawattsyl

5 ай бұрын

Yes this is a very big possibility and someone on the inside of the RCMP could have covered it up. Sounds out there for sure but they are definitely hiding many things about this case. Thank you for watching and your feedback🙏

@exceedingabundantly203

5 ай бұрын

Coverup... 💯. Kylie Rodney coverup...too. They think they can get away with this but that's not how life works you get away with nothing in the end.

Very strange case. It sounds like foul play was involved. He sounded so prepared for every situation. I just don’t believe he got lost, or had an accident. It’s strange that his gun was in one place, and his backpack in another. Too many weird circumstances. I agree with you, that it sounds like foul play. Thank you Bryan for bringing awareness to these sad cases.

As a senior 🇨🇦 ... I can assure you that A LOT of us diagree with 90 % of everything that the RCMP concern thenselves with ...we need to disband this force 😢

He was murdered plain and simple. He probably saw something he shouldn’t have. The murderers then planted his backpack and gun to throw off the investigators. So sad and scary.

@JohnSmith-pn1vv

5 ай бұрын

Case closed!

@bawattsyl

5 ай бұрын

Definitely a possibility, although it doesn't explain why the RCMP acted in the way they did.. that is unless the quilt party had ties to someone on the inside.. who knows🤷‍♂️thank you for watching and your feedback!

@NowRetired-zr2qw

5 ай бұрын

That's your answer right there. Look for teens or twenty-somethings related to members of the RCMP from the party-goers. @@bawattsyl

@larrymaxwell8565

5 ай бұрын

Could have been a ranger maybe he ray got in a dispute with this ranger ,who else would an could know where to hide a body or dispose of of one😮

@mariawestman9026

Ай бұрын

@@bawattsylI agree.. who called the RCMP ? Are they familiar to each other ? And WHOM of the party-people was related to a police man in some way ?

My theory is Ray was disturbed by the unruly party and confronted them. They retaliated and possibly did something to him. Did the RCMP interrogate the party goers? They should be willing to take a polygraph if they claim innocence.

@erichughes284

5 ай бұрын

Thats my theory also .

@bawattsyl

5 ай бұрын

That's one of my thoughts as well although I'm not sure why the RCMP carried out this investigation in the way they did.. unless they knew some of the party people. Unfortunately so much of the information was classified and evidence never really examined and not returned to the family.. that doesn't make sense.. the RCMP definitely knows more than they have said. Thank you for watching and sharing your thoughts🙏

@DC-mu9zd

5 ай бұрын

I agree, my thoughts is he confronted the teens with a pistol in his hand and someone decided to take it to the next level. Someone in that group knows someone important and the (RMCP) are covering it up

@bawattsyl

5 ай бұрын

@@DC-mu9zd yes I agree that there are people out there both in the RCMP and people that were there that night that know what happened. I could actually get behind the RCMP 's theory if they hadn't found his handgun so far away from his camp and the beach where they found his pack and clothes.. plus I'll never understand why they sent the search teams away when they found the pack.. that just makes no sense to me. Thank you for watching and your feedback🙏

You would imagine that a full forensic examination of the camper van and surrounding area should have been carried out . Sounds like the perpetrator shut the dogs in the van . Also need to know if the gun found had been recently fired . A forensic examination should also have been done at the party site instead of clearing it up . A cover up . Very sad for his family who must still have a multitude of unanswered questions

@prarieborn6458

5 ай бұрын

One would think that somewhere in the junk left by the party goers, an item could provide a clue. It is troubling, the RCMP are supposed to be the “Good Guys”

Hi Bryan! Thank you for covering Ray's case. It's terrible that he disappeared doing what he loved out with his two dogs. This case has a lot of odd things that don't make sense and don't add up. I hope they will be able to find Ray so he can be reunited with his wife and other loved ones . I continue to pray for you and your family. 🙏 Timber

@bawattsyl

6 ай бұрын

I hope so too🙏 I think the RCMP knows more than they have let on for years but that's busy my opinion..

@timberdaniels7317

6 ай бұрын

@@bawattsyl yeah I agree with you on that.

I don't know how you do it, but thank you for all your work on these cases!

@bawattsyl

6 ай бұрын

Thank you! I appreciate that! Thank you as always for watching🙏 Really appreciate your awesome support 🙏

to me it sounds like one of the party goers had a connection to the RCMP.

@mariawestman9026

Ай бұрын

Or a connection with the local police/party goers .. and the police man who called the RCMP is friends and the RCMP was instructed to do this job” this way. This is so ODD and very clear a cover up to me … I’m a nobody an old Swedish woman and my English is poor … but this cover up made me heartbroken instead of being angry. If the truth ever comes out it will be by a voice from the party people .. The police will never be investigated and I think the people who know what happened are too scared to speak out. Only if someone is near to death (sick) maybe they will speak up . 🇸🇪👵🏻☕️

I pray for Ray to be found safely. My prayers go with his family and loved ones. Thank you, Bryan, for covering Ray's disappearance.

@martingindulis5310

5 ай бұрын

I was led to believe handguns were not allowed in canida>

@Dakota-xi6cg

5 ай бұрын

Its been 10 years!

@arakkaramoon586

5 ай бұрын

​@@Dakota-xi6cgSome people don't pay attention, But they look for it in comment sections.

Bryan, I’m glad you presented this case in the way you do. Hopefully the questions you voiced as an experienced SAR person will be heard and answered. I agree that something is definitely suspect. I’m a true crime junkie and have also camped a lot. It’s easy to speculate, but also sounds like RCMP wasn’t working in tandem with the SAR folks who come out and risk their own lives. I can imagine a scene where Ray didn’t like the loud, rowdy campers and maybe approached them? Regardless, somebody knows what has happened to him. I pray for he and his family to get answers. I can’t imagine going through that.

@bawattsyl

5 ай бұрын

Thank you for watching and yes I hope after all they have been through and efforts they have made, I hope they get answers one way or another🙏🙏

I agree 100% the other party members had to involved in his disappearance! RIP Raymond and bless his grieving wife family and friends. Just so very tragic! Thanks Bryan for keeping these cases alive !!!!! Bless you

Bryan! So glad you take the time to honor the people that are the focus of these stories. You're awesome and I'm always watching your channel!

@bawattsyl

6 ай бұрын

Thank you for your kind words and for watching🙏 let's hope this family gets some closure one day soon🙏

I pray🙏 the family gets their answers, and the guilty parties are found out and are held accountable!!!!😡 As far as the RCMP is concerned it seems to me something fishy is going on and they need to be investigated by outside sources and dealt with!!!!💕☺️

@MitchT-cj2hg

2 ай бұрын

A 40 day fast along with your prayers will probably be more powerful

It’s possible the “party” people who were shooting,accidentally shot him. The “party” people could have personal ties ( relative?) to the police or had even higher up FBI, CIA “ protection “.

@YoZoe3

6 ай бұрын

That's exactly what I was thinking. And then to come up with this bogus scenario that they believe happened....I smell fish.

@bawattsyl

6 ай бұрын

That's a very good point. And you took the thought right out of my head.. when I was making this video, based on all the evidence I could find, it seems the RCMP knows more than they released and I've never worked a case where the authorities or " police " assigned trash duty instead of working the case. This to me says it averted the SAR team thus giving the RCMP team the time they needed to do whatever it is they may have done.. far fetched? Maybe.. but something is definitely off. Thank you for watching and sharing your thoughts🙏🙏

@helgabruin2261

6 ай бұрын

This is where my thoughts went. I wondered if someone in the grad party was a son or daughter of the investigating police officer.

@bawattsyl

6 ай бұрын

@@helgabruin2261 very possible! Who knows. So much information was hard to find or was not let out by the RCMP which to me I just don't understand.. unless they know more...

@trex3003

6 ай бұрын

This is in Canada. The FBI and CIA are part of the U.S. government.

Harrison lake is one of my favorite hiking area ......I absolutely love it. It's sad to hear about this tragedy.

@bawattsyl

5 ай бұрын

I have never been there but it does look beautiful.. had you hiked in the area where this took place? Thank you for sharing your experiences and thank you for watching🙏

@audibjornsson6107

5 ай бұрын

@@bawattsyl yes I've been all over that area. My Dad took us when were little kids. I'm 50 now and have went almost every year or every other. The whole area is gorgeous. Some trails can be pretty taxing but there are easy trails too. You have to check it out. I've taken several friends over the years and all of them agreed it's definitely a top hike in their book. And we are from Washington, so we are in the mountains here every weekend...so that tells you how magical that place truly is.

What in the world is going on with the RCMP and missing hiker cases??? Not just this case, but seemingly every one I hear about that they’re involved with. It’s disturbing that they give the appearance that they’re either withholding evidence, or refusing to truly investigate the cases? Perhaps there’s a good reason, but just for the optics of it, you’d think they’d want to protect their public image. Because as it appears now, it seems they’re covering up something greater. Look at some other cases, you’ll see what I’m referring to.

@bawattsyl

5 ай бұрын

I definitely will look at other cases. Thank you for watching and your feedback!

@rosehaig7934

5 ай бұрын

-it could just be laziness and ineptitude-who's drivin' the boat?

@wasidanatsali6374

5 ай бұрын

The RCMP could screw up a 2 car funeral.

@MrJest2

5 ай бұрын

@@rosehaig7934 Based on many other anecdotes, that's my conclusion too. Basically, they just want to sit in their offices and collect their nice government paychecks, and they _hate_ actually doing any product work. Policing is difficult and dangerous, after all - so they try to do as little of it as possible...

@mainlinemitch

5 ай бұрын

National Park Service in the US does some odd things at times when it comes to missing persons cases....

What a sad case- he seems like most unlikely person to have an accident like drowning or falling. It's really frustrating how LE agencies assign some unlikely cause of death/disappearance when they can't seem to figure it out. And the fact they won't returns belongings? Shady AF.

So sad. I felt that when the graduation party was mentioned automatically was a red flag. Was the car with shot out headlights one a part of the party. I feel he went there to have peace and quiet and was irritated with the noise coming from them. Maybe he went over to quiet it down and things escalated from there. Drunk teenage boys can turn into rage. They could of got carried away. They need to question the kids at that party. Someone knows something but to scared to come forward. And the fact with them helping "clean up" got them to come back have the chance to do just that. Doesn't sound like the authority gave a damn at all so those kids most likely weren't supervised when walking around and disturbing whatever evidence could have been there. Or the cops got to it first. To cover for one of the kids at the party.....possibly a relative. Just my thoughts. Hopefully something turns around for some answers and one guilt filled person comes forward. What a terrible feeling to have to carry if that happened to be the case.

@YoZoe3

6 ай бұрын

That's a scenario I thought of as well.

@janjohannessmith7033

6 ай бұрын

Right

Sounds very suspicious to me.The fact that his dogs left in truck; his backpack found in a completely different area; his handgun left in a totally different location- on top of a mountain.I pray his body is found.

@beer1for2break3fast4

5 ай бұрын

I just read every article I could find on this story and there is not one mention of a handgun. In Canada we can own handguns (although since last year or so you can't buy them anymore) but the only time they can leave your house is to go to a certified range. You can't take them camping. This guy didn't sound like the type to illegally carry a weapon when he already had a rifle (which is legal if you have the permit) with him. I call BS on that part of this video.

Yikes! I often go camping in this area. Although violent incidents like this are rare in Canada, my greatest fear is encountering (male) drunk yahoos with guns when I am alone in forest. I carry many "weapons" and safety devices, am trained in defensive tactics, but faced with hostile or reckless gun carriers....yikes again. I wonder if Ray got shot and ended up in the lake. : (

It certainly sounds strange. Too many unanswered questions.

I always look forward to your channel. I have never heard of this case and from Canada. Pray he is found for his families sake. Thankyou. You have a way of telling the families stories with heartfelt kindness. Hard to find that on the internet today.

The more I hear about the RCMP the more I am disenchanted with them. They seem to try to do everything with the least amount of effort involved. This has been based on several cases I have followed.

@daleslover2771

5 ай бұрын

After reading the book The Mad Man of Rat river. I believe RCMP carries on a high tradition... you really don't hear much of Mayhem, coming out of Canada, like you hear about in the U.S

This is the first video I've caught. I'm very impressed with how well done and touching your work is. So, one more subscriber for you!

I love Canada and the people. Unfortunately they seem to have the worst detectives working on these type of cases.

@Casey_Cp

6 ай бұрын

You can say that again! I’ve heard stories about the RCMP and am totally shocked how they cover up cases that deal with searching for people ?! And l am Canadian .. and listening to Bryan’s story tonight is so sad for his family and here the RCMP seem not to care one bit! 😡 I live in the southern Ontario a distance from the story tonight .. however, l wonder what happened to him ??

@HorusHawks

6 ай бұрын

@@Casey_Cp Maggie, I completely agree with you! Just before I found your comment, I’d commented something similar. Every case I’ve read of in which the RCMP are the lead investigators, has the feel that they’re either withholding evidence or covering up something way more sinister. Their actions actually make me more nervous than anything!

@Helen-mh8mq

6 ай бұрын

@@Casey_Cp It really is awful

@decembergem4598

6 ай бұрын

When you allow the police to investigate themselves in Canada it says alot

@teresacorrigan3076

6 ай бұрын

Honey and Barry Sherman case in point🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦

Of all the cases I've heard, in all the years I've watched them... the RCMP has impressed me maybe 15% of the time. This is not one of those times.

So sad! My heart breaks for his family and friends.☮️☀️❤️

@bawattsyl

5 ай бұрын

I agree, I hope they get answers soon🙏🙏thank you for watching and your feedback🙏

Who is the RMCP trying to protect? I hope it’s exposed soon.

@bawattsyl

5 ай бұрын

No clue.. so many possibilities.. maybe one of the party goers was connected to the RCMP. Maybe one of their own was involved. I'm not usually one for conspiracy theories etc but in this case, and based on the first hand info I was able to obtain, the fact they didn't return his belongings, the distance between articles found etc...I believe the RCMP has reason to believe this was more than just an accident. Plus I've personally been on searches and worked with teams and families, news outlets etc.. I don't understand why they brought in a swat team and diverted the search and rescue team after they found his backpack. 🤷‍♂️thank you for watching and your feedback 🙏

Love your posts thanks so much for everything. You do a amazing job

@bawattsyl

6 ай бұрын

Thank you for watching and the kind feedback🙏🙏

Smells of a cover up. Definitely. I pray he is found and that God gives his family the strength to not give up until he is found!

@MitchT-cj2hg

2 ай бұрын

40 day fast might make your prayer more powerful

Love and look forward to your videos!!!❤

@bawattsyl

6 ай бұрын

Thank you for watching and your kind words🙏🙏

It's always a pleasure listening to you.❤

You always find the most interesting cases. I had never heard of this one. Poor man. I feel bad for his wife.

Thanks Bryan. ❤️

Clean up, Trash...? Makes me wonder. Is that another way of saying, Clean up evidence? I can't help but feel in my gut that a murder, perhaps accidental even! was covered up. I pray that Rays family one day get the answers they deserve!!!

@bawattsyl

5 ай бұрын

I agree it makes no sense. I've never heard of or covered a case where the authorities totally spilt the team and had the experts (the SAR team) go pick up trash while the mounties went off in another direction doing their investigation.. plus based on what some of the SAR team members said, the RCMP was very frustrating to work with on this case, they felt like they were not getting the full story and felt the RCMP was definitely withholding certain evidence. For example when they found the pack on the beach; instead of the RCMP having the sar team go up the hill in various directions looking for Ray, they were ordered off the beach and told Ray probably drowned. They couldn't believe it and didn't buy understand why the RCMP was doing these things. Thank you for watching and you feedback!

@missycitty9478

5 ай бұрын

@bawattsyl wow! Yea, none of this adds up. I can only imagine what Ray's family went through and continue to go through with so much suspicious activity and zero answers. At least NOT the answers they deserve. Heartbreaking. I hope they are continuing to fight. Thanks for responding back. It's much appreciated. 💚

@bawattsyl

5 ай бұрын

@@missycitty9478 yes I've worked with many families and they all say the same thing.. it's worse than losing someone to a death of some kind. The not knowing everyday is torturous:( they go back and forth in their minds about various scenarios.. and in this case, his family spent a lot of time and money searching that lake because the RCMP'S official position was they he probably drowned in the lake.. but through several very high tech searches, they found nothing. Who knows what exactly happened that night.. but I definitely believe the RCMP knows more but🤷‍♂️ thank you again for watching and your comments🙏

@missycitty9478

5 ай бұрын

@@bawattsyl 💚

Bryan, you are always so respectful of the families. Thank you for that.

Thank you Bryan for another awesome video! Praying for him 🙏 and his family ❤️ Nothing adds up in this case. It seems the RCMP is withholding information. Very fishy. Thanks again!

@bawattsyl

6 ай бұрын

Thank you for your feedback and thoughts.. yes based on the info and experience, I think they at very least there's a possibility it was foul play. Thank you for watching and your feedback🙏

A more recent story was on the news about a young family with little kids having to flee from rowdy vicious campers in this same zone. It was up to the family to get out, because authorities did jack squat. Sum real crazy people out there unchecked. Scary.

🇨🇦 I really hope somebody investigates further as to why the RCMP are with holding info. Something just isn't adding up hear. So sorry to Rays wife and Family, Friends. They deserve answers and closure. Don't give up. 💟☮ Thankyou for covering this Story!

Oh, this is a heartbreaking one 😢 I agree with your thought, Bryan that his disappearance is connected to the partygoers. My heart goes out to his wife, I hope sometime soon she gets some answers and closure on what happened to her husband ❤

I wonder if they let the dogs out and see if they followed Ray's scent.

@nopenever3

5 ай бұрын

I wondered that too

Handguns are illegal in canada. You need a RPAL license and another permit to transport a handgun. Legal firearm owners are a very responsible group in canada due to how hard it is to obtain a RPAL. No way Ray would have taken the risk of transporting his handgun away from his home.

@beer1for2break3fast4

5 ай бұрын

Yeah I too don't think he brought a handgun out there. If you read all the online articles there is no mention whatsoever of a handgun being found. By the way handguns are not illegal, they are restricted and you don't need a permit to transport a handgun from your home to a range but you do to move it anywhere else including to a gunsmith now. That used to be possible without a permit as well up until a few years ago.

@alkaschnja

3 ай бұрын

I live in that area and heared of people, specially the older folks that owned hand guns before all the strikt laws came in, taking them into the backcountry for wildlife protection…..

This does not sound like it was from anything he did. I pray he is found soon🙏🏼

@MattOlshove-fk7us

5 ай бұрын

Sounds like bigfoot ta me

This case was covered in the film, Missing 411, the UFO connection. Includes a great interview with his wife. His personal items not returned. Very strange search for him. Do I have the wrong case? Don’t think so as I’m listening. Brian, you do wonderful work!!

@patde1264

6 ай бұрын

No it wasn't in the movie

@coasterbrookie

6 ай бұрын

Yes this is the same case

@coasterbrookie

6 ай бұрын

@@patde1264this is the same case

@jilcooper9619

6 ай бұрын

@@patde1264 yes it was. The first case. I confirmed it

@bawattsyl

6 ай бұрын

I haven't seen that film. But yes you are correct like I said his items weren't returned, so to me, it seems like the RCMP knows more than they are letting on. Thank you for watching and your feedback🙏🙏

Please someone help look for him!!!!!

Thanks Bryan! ❤

My family and I have been robbed at gun point while camping. The guys who did this were very scarry, shooting into the air, acting very odd, strewing things all over, laughing, and had a very young boy with them. They were unpredictable and seemed like they would do things similar to this case.

@jenniferg6818

5 ай бұрын

where?

2013 ? Why does it take so long for the stories of missing people to be made public. Thankyou for covering Raymond's disappearance. My thoughts are with his family ❤

Great job Bryan! This was definitely an odd missing case. Ray didnt seem like he'd leave his dogs like that intentionally. Happy new year wishes everybody!

@user-ts1fp4nm9y

5 ай бұрын

Good point!!! Anyone who has dogs would never leave them!! It looks like foul play and police incompetentcy if not worse!!

I feel like he saw something he shouldn’t have or the people didn’t want to be told on. Almost as if they were the CRMP. As far as the gun I feel as though they just tried to pitch it somewhere else thinking they would never find it or put 2 and 2 together. If his dogs were always with him someone made sure they weren’t. I pray his family finds answers

Foul play for sure! My opinion! I appreciate your information in this video. I just subscribed a few weeks ago and really enjoy your passion and content. Prayers are with his beautiful wife and family! Very sad.

definitely a Sasquatch cover up, or another being that the gov knows exist but cannot release the info to the public. This would explain the RCMP making them pick up trash vs execute a search. Everything from the resistance to wanting to help, to not handing back his belongings to his own family, tells me is Sassy (or the like) Thanks for another great video, Bryan. Happy New Year.

thank you

Thanks ❤

The partygoers would not call the police to report shots fired if they had anything to do with his disappearance imo.

You got it something is not right at all I hope and 🙏 pray that they find him

This is so sad! Someone knows something!!! Praying for his family.

A handgun is not something that is often carried in Canada. There are many restrictions regarding handguns and they are generally kept in a locked container and only allowed at a licensed gun range. I have never in my long life known anyone to carry a handgun out in the woods. If you are hunting or need protection a rifle or shotgun is normal and handgun is not.

It’s a party, multiple people attended, somebody will eventually talk. Authorities need to apply some pressure on a few of those party goers. This case is very solvable.

I pray his family get closer, praying for all.

prayers for him and his loved ones

RCMP's hypothesis doesn't add up. His dogs locked,his vest in the camp,his side gun on the top of a hill,his belongings on a beach...nothing of which an experienced outdoorsman would have done voluntarily. Foul play. Praying for him and his family.

As Mr. Palides 411 says. Look Up!

@Galaxie08

5 ай бұрын

Nope. The party goers were on the ground with him. 🙄

Foul play would be my guess also and what brings me to that conclusion is his handgun was found so far away. If he used it himself he would never had left it there.

My hubby is from Canada ❤. So sad to hear this story. My prayers go out for family.

Shooting guns at people is a very serious offence in Canada. I am 65 yrs old and I have never heard of anyone belonging to a shooting club, nor have I ever seen a shooting club anywhere and I have lived across the country. Our police do keep more info to themselves and I agree there should be more transparency. I think they may have kept the clothes for dna purposes in case there ended up being further development in the case. We do not know if there was any history of police involvement by Ray. If he had none, they definitely should have looked into that group of campers. So sorry for Ray and his family. He sounded like a good man. Good work Bryan!

@JeffAnnett-ci3cy

5 ай бұрын

There are 2 million gun owners in canada and multiple shooting clubs in every province and major city

@mightyfraserriver977

5 ай бұрын

Pal holder hunter and fisherman here. Hi. I'm a member in a hunting and fishing club. With a big gun range on our grounds . It is a shooting club from bow and arrow to hand guns and rifles .

@heather-cz8yk

5 ай бұрын

​@@JeffAnnett-ci3cy I was talking about the hobby of gun ownership, shooting at clubs, multiple or dozens of guns owned. Lots of farmers, hunters and rotten criminals with guns. Once again, never heard one person anywhere mention a gun club nor seen one.

@heather-cz8yk

5 ай бұрын

@@mightyfraserriver977 Thank you...

@heather-cz8yk

5 ай бұрын

@@JeffAnnett-ci3cy Well, I just googled a map of BC with shooting clubs....shocked at how many there are. Guess we don't talk about gun shooting in general, apart from the members. Not like the glock fanatics I have heard standing in line when over the border in Washington. I'm 5 min from the border.

Raymond ❤ 🙏

The police may just need one tip to break a case open and that’s why they don’t like to release items back to loved ones. It suck’s for family members but it’s better than releasing items only to find out that you need it.

@beer1for2break3fast4

5 ай бұрын

And having the search crew clean up may have been actually collecting possible evidence.

I agree with you that it had to do with the partygoers, I’d look for a list of their names and relatives because I suspect they had friends or family in high places…

@beer1for2break3fast4

5 ай бұрын

And where would you look for this "list" of names. They weren't signed into some park they were out in the woods.

To everyone watching this . Please take a GPS with you . Family members care about you

@beer1for2break3fast4

5 ай бұрын

He wasn't lost. He was only about 400 metres from his campsite. At least his clothes, backpack and rifle were.

Poor Raymond. 😢

A case like this were the authorities are withholding information/evidence leads one to infer that the ill deed (intentional or accidental) was perhaps done by a high profile individual or a relative of a high profile individual.

There's a missing element in the case.

I.m with you on this one...the RCMP screwed this one up! The party goers had something to do with it. Where are the interviews of them????? Very sad case.

I agree with your analysis. Very likely foul play. Very strange and very sad either way.

This is disheartening. I love to vacation in BC. Really thought outdoor activities in remote locations safer there than in the US for single people. Please keep us apprised if new developments.

Did they ever track down these party folks? I agree, some kind of altercation with them makes sense. The swimming story makes no sense. All I can say is I hope they found those people and investigated them. But if they did, why wouldn't they tell his family that they had. It is a sad and very strange story.

Just come across your channel and this is a reaaly bizarre case . You mentioned about old mines and mine shafts in the area ....did anyone look into those ? If he was murdered there could be the possibility that he is in one of the old mines or thrown down in a mine shaft . So sad for his family .

Hello, I was unsubbed by the YT Gremlins but I'm back. Thanks, for thinking about others. You're appreciated.

I think someone should look into the members of the RCMP and see if anyone had a relative that was involved in that graduation party.

There would be fingerprints on some of the garbage. Definitely sounds like foul play.

His dogs couldn’t find him? Poor man.

This is the first time I have seen this and he was murdered and sadly he needs to be found and give his family peace 👍🫶

I suspect foul play was involved as well.

How many others remain missing in this region?

@sheilaneveu9121

6 ай бұрын

Quite a few

Don't think they were just picking up trash . They were searching for evidence...makes more since

@teresacorrigan3076

5 ай бұрын

🇨🇦oh right

@teresacorrigan3076

5 ай бұрын

8:00. Very suspicious rcmp. The theory is bizarre! On something? Involved?

why it is important to always be armed (and proficient) in isolated/remote areas.

After hearing you talk about This man and what has happened to him. I totally agree with you 100%. There is foul play people don't just disappear and vanish I think maybe like you mentioned there was a party and naybe they went to harass this poor man.

Makes you think the belongings along the beach were staging

I agree.

I honest truly hope that the r.c.m.p is just saying that their is no fowl play to lure the perpetrators into a sense of safety so they slip up but from what I’ve heard of the r.c.m.p it’s probably incompetence or they didn’t want to work

Very mysterious indeed? Not the first case I've heard where the RCMP behaved in questionable ways . .

Ok i watched the video again. Did they find his boat with outboard motor?

Sounds like there were rcmp kids involved that would explain everything especially cleaning up their campsite

Definitely has to do with the party goers. The fact other campers headlights were shot out makes me think the party goers were out at night harassing whoever’s campground they came across maybe looking for things at the site to take. Maybe the headlights were shot out so when they raided campgrounds at night the campers couldn’t drive to go find them??They came upon Raymond’s campground he was inside with the dogs sleeping maybe left his backpack with clothes on a chair out by the campfire seemed like he used it for hiking so not much of a reason to take it inside camper at night. He heard someone around the campground thinking it was a wild animal he left the dogs inside went out to see what it was with his handgun and an altercation with the kids happened. He put up a fight maybe got beat up bad they made him walk with them someone else grabbed the backpack and they took him back to their site near the water. Went through his backpack then shot him. Either they had a boat so they took him out and dropped him in the water or they took him up into the woods on an Atv maybe and buried him. On way back to the party site they tossed his gun. If the casings found at the beach area match Raymond’s gun then they shot him with his own gun. Sad. Either way no doubt those people, kids at that grad party had something to do with it.

@beer1for2break3fast4

5 ай бұрын

One headlight on one vehicle was hit by a bullet. Two other bullets hit a camper. From a news article.

What a crazy theory😡

While watching the video at about the 4.58 mark you will see what appears to be something Running , as if it was surprised could have it been a Sasquatch ? or a individual . No ones has mentioned that. I hope all who are watching can see what I Saw . My Computer screen is about 25 1/2 inches by 17 .

@bawattsyl

5 ай бұрын

Thank you for your observations. I make all my videos from my phone so I may have missed something but thank you for sharing your thoughts🙏