Camille Paglia, Get you're own TALK SHOW or Podcast!

@djanitatiana

6 жыл бұрын

YT CHANNEL! Maybe women will discover her the way men have found so much in Peterson's lectures.

@adamoliver8736

6 жыл бұрын

Paglia to the People!

@ManInTheBigHat

6 жыл бұрын

TOTALLY! I'd help fund that!

@alphonsohussein4143

6 жыл бұрын

+truth bravery If you're crazy, I'm crazy with you. I was thinking we should temporarily embrace Islam and go hardcore Sharia on western women. That'll teach them, then maybe they're gonna give us our balls back and we'll be able to elect our very own Hitler. Repeal the right to vote for women, criminalize divorce, make "marriage" a contract to have at least 3 children. Society would be back in shape in no time.

@Perfect.Imperfect

6 жыл бұрын

*your

As usual, Camille is always more pleasurable to listen to at .75 speed.

@rogue-ish5713

6 жыл бұрын

Dude, THANK YOU, soo true....

@joshthompson9390

3 жыл бұрын

Me too! he-he!

@poetryfortheinsane.1985

2 жыл бұрын

I usually play videos at 1.25 speed. Her and Ben Shapiro are the only people I can't do that to

@mysticaltyger2009

2 жыл бұрын

Not a great speaker, but the content is solid.

Today's feminism needs her! What a voice of reason. I come from a white working class family and she's spot on.

@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017

6 жыл бұрын

She's been around forever but the bourgeois feminists of the 80's and 90's totally threw she and Christina Hoff Sommers under the bus for daring to contradict their bullshit dogma about female equality that denies biological differences. We are now paying the price for the hegemony of postmodernist feminism that has ruined the nuclear family and effectively destroyed men in our culture.

@Hunter-yj6zb

6 жыл бұрын

No today's feminism needs to be eradicated.

@Hunter-yj6zb

6 жыл бұрын

Destroyed the common man yes. Feminism was created and is funded by big money men who use it and other groups to keep the common man controlled and in check.

@artgurrl

6 жыл бұрын

Yes, I agree. And feminism never accepted women who were blue collar. I mean did you ever hear Gloria Steinham or other corporate and post modern feminists advocate for their housekeepers or nannies? No. But that is why Paglia is needed. She sees through their hypocrisy and calls them out on so many levels.

@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017

6 жыл бұрын

+Hunter66 I doubt it was 'masterminded' by anyone in particular, but it sure does work to keep people down, that's for fucking sure.

"No female Mozart, no female Jack the Ripper": This is a really concise way of putting it. She's so smart.

14:00 _The "alpha wife" earns more than the husband, she makes up 40% of US couples..._

I have great respect for this woman.

@mysticaltyger2009

2 жыл бұрын

Don't always agree with her, but one of the few people on the left who is awake to the dysfunction in Western countries.

@legalgig3480

Жыл бұрын

I love her so much

Caller: Hi I'm wondering if you'd like to participate in a debate? Me: Sure, who will my opponent be? Caller: Camille Pa.... Me: *hangs up

@TroyMountain

6 жыл бұрын

WHY would you pass up a chance at conversation with her?! She's one of the few feminists not a man-hater and family-killer.

I'm not sure who the *other woman* was in this debate (or whatever it was), but *her points went unanswered* , so I'll address them now: 1. *College degrees* . Men realized long ago that a college degree doesn't get you a higher paying job, unless you're targeting very specific careers. The type of jobs men usually end up with are blue collar, physical labour jobs. Those jobs can pay very well without requiring degrees. The perfect example is that of a contractor, or a landscaper, or a tradesman. Women waste a lot of money on college degrees to become "executive assistants" (secretaries) at companies. They earn $40,000/yr answering the phone (with their degree) while their husband earns $90,000/yr moving dirt with a bulldozer (without a degree). *It comes down to which jobs people are willing to do, and only men are willing to do the tough jobs* . That's the honest to goodness truth. 2. *The college admission system* . Colleges have been doing everything in their power to get women. All of the incentives and special programs target women. I'm surprised women pay tuition at all to go to college. The government basically wants to pay it for you. Men aren't "falling behind", they're way *ahead* of the curve. They know a scam when they see one, and they know how worthless a degree is these days, so men took a pass on that system. 3. *The traditional family* . It's the end of the traditional family because women insisted on joining the workforce and paying for someone else to raise their children (daycare workers and television basically). All that happened as a result is that it devalued men's salaries, so now you need *two* people working to make the same amount of money that *one* man earned back in the 1950's or 1960's. The introduction of women into the workforce drove the average middle class family into poverty by deflating wages.

@zahhari3170

6 жыл бұрын

Chris Baehr I've been saying that about women joining the workforce for years. When you increase the number of workers then salaries go down. Simple economics.

@solonlysander2180

5 жыл бұрын

@sleepy rivers - The reason why women and minorities are getting more college degrees than white men and why more women and minorities are getting jobs over white men, is because feminists complained about equality and thus the "affirmative action laws" were passed. Back in 1987 the Supreme Court, in a 6 to 3 decision, upheld the "affirmative action and ruled today that employers may sometimes favor women and members of minorities over better-qualified men and whites in hiring and promoting to achieve better balance in their work forces. In a blistering dissent, Justice Antonin Scalia said the Court's ''enormous expansion'' of prior decisions upholding affirmative action had completed its conversion of a 1964 antidiscrimination law into an ''engine of discrimination'' against men and whites, especially the ''unknown, unaffluent, unorganized.'' Years ago, the majority of good paying jobs were; coal and other mining jobs, steel mills and saw mills, logging, other factory jobs, construction and even truck driving, yet women at that time did not cry that they were not be treated equally for those jobs. They were happy for men to go off to those jobs while they (the women) stayed home to take care of the house. Now that the majority of good paying jobs are cushy white collar office jobs, now women want equality to go to work. You say..."To simply say it's all women's fault men can't make enough anymore is too simple" That is 100% correct. It was men who passed the affirmative action laws and other men that have been giving more and more power to women. Men of these men have done so for money and poonany.

I would go as far to say that this woman is a gift to humanity.

"For every conscious declaration of Equality from women there is a subconscious desire for Domination" Jordan Peterson

Hanna Rosin assumes something that simply isn't so. And that is the men will always be generous. She assumes that men will just keep signing up to commitment, women, and children. That just isn't the case. Put enough road blocks in men's way, undermine their ability to prosper, disrespect what men bring to society, severely penalize them if they ever take a half step wrong, and shame and call them a$$holes no matter what they do and you'll see more and more men refusing to play along. Even women are creating a backlash against feminism and it makes Hanna come across as smug, arrogant with her mind up in a cloud somewhere. Hanna also completely overlooks that men are the true dreamers, inventors, builders, and maintainers of our civilization and sociey. That simply isn't going to change. And women don't want most of those jobs. Some day there will be true male birth control, and as long as it is not made illegal you will see men, well those who are responsible and have something to lose, also withdrawing their fertility. And get this; Planned Parenthood might even provide it! Women haven't a clue what real empowerment is until they age into their 40s without a husband and family. When their beauty has faded and they are left with only their skills, that's when they'll know. Oh, and a good reference what true strong, independent empowerment is at its best just look at men over 40 who are not burdened with a wife and family. Those guys have discovered a gold mine. That would be their own earnings not obligated to others. The difference is shocking. Good luck all you Hanna Rosin feminists. You're going to need it.

@steve3131

6 жыл бұрын

Why any man would marry an obnoxious cunt like Hanna Rosin is a mystery. Even sheer masochism cannot account for it.

@Snarge22

6 жыл бұрын

She may have been nice looking at 22, but like all of them she has hit the wall. She is quite delusional about men. Not sure why she came up with her viewpoint. Maybe to generate controversy and sell books.

@margaret6839

5 жыл бұрын

Feminists may be stupid, but none of us are dumb enough to believe that men on our side. No one is expecting you to be generous, believe me.

@margaret6839

5 жыл бұрын

@Resistance Do you actually think I'm going to spend 10 minutes of my life reading this after you led with calling me a terrorist? Consolidate your points man; I'm busy.

@richardfinlayson1524

5 жыл бұрын

have you actually met any real feminists, or women for that matter?

These women are also becoming depressed, infertile, lonely, bitter, narcissistic, I guess power, and money is not as glorious as it seems... I am glad I did not fall for most of that B.S. I have always known motherhood is very important to me, as is love, creativity, femininity, among many other things. The wise woman way. Shamanic, and its the women who inspire me the most, the healers.

@pinkgal206

6 жыл бұрын

Shut up! Let women do what they want!

@margaret6839

5 жыл бұрын

Well in that case men should we glad we've taken on the burdens of power and money. You're welcome guys.

@giannislainas5187

5 жыл бұрын

Good that you did Margie,but dont forget hypergamy.Since most women seem to want to marry up,if you are alrd at the top and with your gender overepresented at the top then not many suitable husbands out there and for sure not at your age,since those males at the top will be looking for something younger and hotter than your succesfull you at middle 30s and they would be able to get it also. So unless you marry someone early and make him a housewise,dont see much succesfull romantic relationships for you girls,unless you choose childless life or sperm banks,then more power to you. The best solution ofc is the choice of marrying down,but i dont think women seem willing to do that,lower their expectations that is. It would be great to start seeing more marriages between upper middle class women with higher education and working class men for instance.But not many of those around now,are they.

@margaret6839

5 жыл бұрын

Talk about drinking the Kool-Aid man. It amazes me that the same guys who criticize feminism as a brainwashed cult will then turn around and spew the same unverified, unscientific MRA garbage without ever seeing the irony. I’d be happy to refute your arguments but I’m not gonna even bother; you’re a zealot, it’s pointless.

@SMC01ful

5 жыл бұрын

Cool, you sound like my Mum. It's what she thinks as well.

She needs a youtube channel and go viral. 1 video per week at least. AMAZING!!

@WakingUpToday213

6 жыл бұрын

Gina Granada, there's enough of her out there and in her books to last you a lot of weeks. Love it when women see this point of view!

@gpg8204

6 жыл бұрын

Andrew MacDonald I love to listen to her, a feminist that admires men, but my capacity to read (and write) in english is not that good yet. I am learning. But you are rigth I need to read her work

@WakingUpToday213

6 жыл бұрын

Gina Granada, I can't read any second languages as well as you do English. Good for you! There's a lot of Camille to listen to on KZread!

@gpg8204

6 жыл бұрын

Andrew MacDonald thank you! 😉 There so many information in english out there that learning becomes a need. Now is easier with the internet, I am learning by myself and my first step is to listen to someone who speak fast and Camille Paglia is perfect!

@WakingUpToday213

6 жыл бұрын

She IS perfect for that. I only speak a little Spanish slowly. Mi cuniada es Colombiana!

13:34 Paglia's opponent expresses no sympathy for men, shows no interest in helping the boys who are "fall[ing] behind as early as first grade." Nothing but glee at the "end of men." Just incredible.

No...we need men! I like this woman. Just discovered her today.

@margaret6839

5 жыл бұрын

Ironically, she is a lesbian. :D

I absolutely adore how brilliant and articulate Camille Paglia is. I'd listen to her for hours without end.

Holy shit this woman is sharp.

So happy I found her! I thought I was The only “woman” left!

If feminism came back to the real world, there wouldn't be any feminism and women would be accountable and posses reason. (Melvin Udall, As Good As It Gets)

@borisvandruff7532

5 жыл бұрын

svartvist “How do you write women so well?” “I think of a man, and I take away reason, and accountability.”

my FAVORITE interview of Camille!

Is there any where we can watch this talk they are showing at the end??

First off, I was taking a course at U of T, and in class we were discussing a book, and one young lady amazed me with what she extracted out of that book, I was impressed, so I do believe that some women are very creative. Second, my wife has brought two beautiful children into the world, into my world. I could do very little as a man to help at the births, but that does not mean that I did not care deeply about my wife or my child. In a way men are biologically removed from the birth process but in another way we have instincts that kick in, to provide for and protect our families. I call it instincts, but is it more social? Or is there a biological component to how we feel about our mates and our offspring? Great talk Camille!

The end? Definitely not for this man.

Imagine having a mother that thinks her child is a burden and not a blessing. One can intellectualize it all, ultimately, it's a hate kiss towards all of humanity. She had a mother herself. Nature is great at reminding us that we age and if we don't replenish, we go instinct. As such, some forms of feminism will not survive. Try do that without men...

I wish the whole debate was made available on KZread.

Thank you, I enjoy great minds. Love listening to your insights and perspectives.

I genuinely love how Camille Paglia speaks so passionately about her views. There is a grand sense of romanticism of her own world view. She grabs your attention with immense power.

Camille spoke at the #womenLEAD event this past May with Christina Hoff Sommers. I've been trying to find footage of the event; have you stumbled upon any?

I'd like to see her converse with Ben Shapiro

@raymondsilas6244

6 жыл бұрын

Minyadagniriel he would kick her are in 10 seconds

Where's the video of the debate?

Is there anymore of this talk?

@ThePayola123

6 жыл бұрын

dpRiley1 Yes but FemNaziBots are working hard to take it down.

@VulgarTrader

6 жыл бұрын

Yes, but behind a paywall. This was all I could get. See description for more.

It’s sad that it’s the end of Western men. But others will take over, and feminism will realise just how tolerant and protective the Western culture was. The very culture feminism works so hard to tear down.

“there can be no more radical refusal of self-acceptance than the repudiation of one’s own biological nature,” Norman Podhoretz, Breaking Ranks, 1979.

6:18 Immediately had to think about the guy that landed the Rosetta Stone probe on top of a meteorite and got the ire of the feminists for wearing a shirt (that his girlfriend made!) with images of sexy women printed on it. The days thereafter the conversation was about his shirt, not his achievement, and his tearful public apology for his shirt was the icing on the feminist cake. It's such a perfect case scenario.

Thank you. Fantastic presentation of logic and thought. I really appreciate your thoughts. I just watched a few of your other videos. It's so nice to hear a feminists views that don't make all men and masculinity the enemy of woman.

NOTE: Munk Debates has removed the paywall, and only requires (free) registration now!

It worries me that it appears that there is no one on the rise to take Camille's place as the true champion of real feminism. Once she's gone, there will be the same void left in real feminism as there was in freedom of speech when George carlin died.

@brennancarter7721

2 жыл бұрын

And Patrice O’Neal.

She killed it, Man, maybe even better than usual in this.

Did he say that it was a Mass Debate? I'm confused. There were only two of them.

Brilliant, as ever.

How unfortunate that the more I listen to Camille Paglia, the more I realize she's still part of the problem. Traditional society was gynocentric. Feminism basically removes any incentive for men to be part of a gynocentric society. Yes, she refutes modern feminism and yet she still promotes a type of feminism that still would not function generally. The best analogy I provide is she is promoting feudalism as an alternative to marxism. Yeah it sounds good, compared to marxism, but it is still a silly system. Gynocentricism has run its course and wore out its welcome for men. Even a segregated gender society makes far more sense. No co-ed schools, no co-ed workplaces. At least being male isn't going to result into being turned into a second class citizen that way.

@svartvist

6 жыл бұрын

Heyman and heyman! Sometimes she almost makes sense, and other times she speak with (h)Uranus. “…what you're seeing there isn't masculinity; what you're seeing there is femininity aping a few masculine traits - very few indeed and not very well done either. The story is this: a woman can use anything at her disposal, and she has everything at her disposal." Suzanne Hindmarsh Paglia is not anything but a woman who didn't like being one and sought to ape men to feel better about herself. What she knows about men is second hand or less.

@margochanning6868

6 жыл бұрын

In practice, Marxism is feudalism.

@kalidesu

6 жыл бұрын

*Arthirias* Interesting points.

@SvenTviking

6 жыл бұрын

Arthirias No mate. Marxism is waaaaaay better then Feudalism. An ordinary person was not even allowed to wear colourful clothes under the feudal system.

@SvenTviking

6 жыл бұрын

Margo Channing So is corporate capitalism where you end up owned by the company.

Men notice how women look. We just know that if we complement women for their beauty they will call us misogynists or chauvinists or sexists.

This was amazing. I love her perspective on women who beautify themselves.

This woman is so great! Everyone needs to hear what she has to say.

Canadians do violently apologize lol

@AbstractAngelArtist

6 жыл бұрын

for Trudeau, Feminism and multiculturalism i hope! and Celine Dion! that dude is ugly!

@ssj3jarrod

6 жыл бұрын

Abstract Angel Artist I loathe the cultural Marxism that has ruined the west.... however I accept that these individuals want it so much as to collapse an entire society. Welcome to the central banking system

@JohnBobRoger

6 жыл бұрын

all politeness ends when the puck goes in the corner...also ask the Germans how polite the Canucks were in the last World Wars (especially the 1st)!

@Lordpoliticallyincorrect

6 жыл бұрын

*Canada and Sweden..our new entertainment*

She’s so important now more than ever. Nothing but respect

Camille, you’re great, you’re just making too much sense, you’re my hero. 👍

Her laugh is so sarcastic.. i love it

bring back men only and women's only social clubs.

I probably disagree with 90% of what Parker stands for, but I find her incredible! Her intellectual integrity is just so refreshing, and she has major credibility.

LOVE THIS WOMAN!!! Camille is my Fresh Air.

She's wrong to say there aren't female geniuses - of course there are - it's just slim pickings compared to males. Even she had said this in another interview.

The Age of Men is over. It is now the Age of the Orc

We as humans have become unwilling or unable to accept what we have to do to exist.

Loving her. But I'd like to see a more detailed view on her perceptions of the impact on male and female behaviour/outcomes of biological and evolutionary incentives. I would seriously like to know her opinion on Geoffrey Millers 'Mating Mind'

It's very important for all intelligent males to be anti-feminist and to support the philosophy of MGTOW - to peg back the present feminist throttle-hold, which developed since everyone obtained the right to vote. In western democratic countries, I see 5 stages leading to the feminist problem we have today.

@theknowall2232

6 жыл бұрын

*Stage 1* Politicians became vote chasers. Using simple language, politicians offered fruits that achieved votes. The average women voted for women's issues and so did many men (due to the male protective instinct towards women). Women are skillful at expressing victimhood and the majority of voters reacted accordingly.

@theknowall2232

6 жыл бұрын

*Stage 2* Feminists initially aimed for 'equality' and wanted everyone to believe that women could comprise leadership jobs /engineers /builders /mechanics etc. in equal numbers as men. Feminists slowly took over the education system. Feminists indoctrinated the young so that mythical things such as patriarchy, pay gap, sexual abuse, DV, gender bias, glass ceilings --> became real in people's minds. Women's Studies mushroomed in the universities and these graduates took over the media.

@theknowall2232

6 жыл бұрын

*Stage 3* Women took a majority of jobs in the bureaucracy, all levels of education, the media and a large part of the justice system. They controlled the male politicians who did what they were told by influential feminist organisations like White Ribbon.

@theknowall2232

6 жыл бұрын

*Stage 4* (example, Australia) Government jobs for the benefit of women grew like cancer. These jobs were initially seen as vote winners, useless but harmless. But they were *not harmless*. Jobs such as the Minister for Women, the Commissioner for Women, the Equal Opportunity Commissioner, the Office for Women, the Office of Women's Affairs, the National Council of Women of Australia, the Australian Women's Health Network health advocacy organisation, the Country Women's Association, the Australian Labor Party organisation for the equalising of women in politics, the National Council of Women of Australia, the International Council of Women, the Women's Electoral Lobby ... and many others. The problem with these jobs is that the women in these roles must DO SOMETHING, so they investigated women who failed to achieve (due to incompetence or due to hating a job), then labelled the reasons as sexual harassment /discrimination and lobbied for special rules and privileges for women. This happened, for example, in the police force.

@theknowall2232

6 жыл бұрын

*Stage 5* Only males subservient to feminist ideology were promoted in many workplaces, so that ambitious males, conditioned from youth, learned to follow the ideology. If men stood up for fairness and equality, if they argued against benefits for women, they were not promoted. The education system had indoctrinated women with the idea that masculinity was toxic, ensuring that minor disputes became sufficient for marriage breakups. In their private lives, men discovered that, in a marriage breakup, women could easily accuse males of domestic violence, rape or child abuse. This ensured women a better divorce settlement outcome and feminism had convinced many women that they were justified in taking this path. Many divorce lawyers encouraged women to take this path. Women's verbal accusations were always supported by the courts. The legal fraternity enjoyed the income from marital breakups and feminists in the justice system enjoyed the benefits of all the new gynocentric laws. The spread of male criminal convictions for DV, rape or child abuse meant such males could only attain employment in their own business or in all-male jobs such as building. Loss of employment and loss of family increased the male suicide rate. Feminist exaggerations of workplace sexual harassment/bullying ensured that women were seen as a safer option for government jobs. Rules enforcing police background checks ensured a decreasing pool of men could compete with women for government jobs.

If you take into account the great many professions with majority male work forces, not to mention the fact that most of the leadership roles are done by men, then you'll realise that this question is silly. There are examples of sexism against women and examples of sexism against men. So I am not dismissing these. I am just sceptical of any "end of men" claims. They make interesting thought experiments though.

"Wandering (men) the world and finally finding the woman of their dreams, and discovering she's just a vision of their mother!" LOL

Women dress for other women. Of course, they do. It's not like most men are fashion critics.

I'm an arch conservative yet I love this woman.

I have been waiting for someone to articulate these ideas I have had for many years. She is amazing.

What she said at 14:40 was very ominous. Unfortunately, I agree with her.

"pardon me, naive" camile is awesome

Great video. Some of the women on Real Housewives are not particularly beautiful. What they all have in common is a great deal of money, leisure, and a certain lavish lifestyle. This is so much about power. But I agree with her points.

I LOVE HER SO MUCH!!!!!!! For the first time, a feminist try to understand the gender conflict through nature and logic point-de-vue! And i dont say that just bc she defend men, but bc she protect humain nature and his both sides.

i agree with everyone who says she needs her own show/podcast/whatever platform. she obviously can talk to no end and she says some infamatory stuff. i love every second of it

I love this gal. She really does need her own podcast.

Okay!

She is a great speaker, debater. However, I do not agree with her premise that pregnancy and nursing (infants) is a burden. I found it incredibly empowering!!

@margaret6839

5 жыл бұрын

Mary: Camille Paglia identifies as a trans man. She has no idea how most women feel about much of anything, including pregnancy and childbirth, but that doesn't prevent her from waxing about them when it suits her needs. She's spent most of her career trying to be accepted as one of the guys, because like Jordan Peterson, she thinks women are pretty much useless. This makes her a natural hero to MRAs, but of pretty much no use to you. You want wisdom about pregnancy, childbirth and womanhood in general? Talk to your grandmother.

@peterg3947

5 жыл бұрын

My grandmother is dead

@margaret6839

5 жыл бұрын

May she rest in peace.

People need to learn proper statistics in school, probably you can push the basics in middle school and progress to the more technical and math intensive stuff in high school! This would make people question the numbers and statistics pushed by ideologues and would bring back reason to the forefront of academia like Camille wants. But I think we need better teachers and books, from kindergarten to colleges and universities, which require a completely different mentality towards education from the last 30-40 years.

great interview indeed, but it seems that we have bigger issues on the side to deal with. its kinda curious that can put the environment in the category of random play and display of evolutionary dictation, and yet we ourselves are having trouble with our societal identity. maybe the environment figured something out we didnt in that category.

I would like her to debate Anita...would be classic! Thumbs Up!

Men arguing feminism woman arguing masculinity. I don’t want to live on this planet anymore

Ms Paglia is a very smart woman.

She said it: "men always have to prove themselves - always!" It can wear a man down!

Women are graduating more than men in universities. True but in what

With regard to the statement about middle class women, I have to ask: who was CharlesFourier? If I'm not mistaken, he was middle class and coined the term Feminism. He believed that marriage was a prison for women and refused to marry as a result. Who were the Suffragettes? Where they not middle class women who didn't care a lick about working class women until they needed more bodies for the campaign? Feminism has always been a middle class affair.

A very smart woman indeed!

I love her.

04:40, this is why vaginas are so terrifying! the vagina opens up & releases you into the world but a few years later it lures you back in... a few times for fun but then it closes up & swallows your soul till death liberates you.

Who is Rosin married to?!

The end of men? Absoloutely. We simply will walk away from all of it.

What's real weird is, as a conservative libertarian, i genuinely love drag shows.

No female mass murderers and no female geniuses? Is she serious?

I love her

Oh let us do watch and observe the rise of women without electrical engineers, sanitation, construction, mechanical, engineers and workers, 99% of whom are men.Dominating marketing jobs in AC offices does not constitute the rise of women, sorry. We will soon see how long women dominate the financial decisions in households too as fewer manage to get married, as men have checked out of the raw deal

Is this the end of men? Let us pray.

Arrite, ok

"It's Mother Nature that lays the heaviest burden on women . . . " - Camille, love ya, but that's nuts. Yep, the burden on women is great, but this statement implies that men are saddled with a relatively lighter burden . . . ya know, like dying in wars to protect and provide for women. Taking far greater risks. I could go on, but you get the point.

@CosmicSpectrumArt

6 жыл бұрын

Um, don't take that statement so close to heart, but I do believe it's true. As a group, women are physically weaker and more vulnerable, and bearing children is no joke. You don't really understand what it's like to have a ticking clock that will determine whether you were able to carry out your biological destiny or disappear into obscurity. Men don't have a time limit, and they don't become obsolete after a certain age.

@svartvist

6 жыл бұрын

Try convincing a man of 65 he still has time and not obsolete...

@CosmicSpectrumArt

6 жыл бұрын

At 65 everyone is obsolete unless they've done something remarkable with their life... and the criteria for 'remarkable' is pretty wide.

@RacconAndMT

6 жыл бұрын

Bruce Fullwood I think you just misunderstood the statement. She isn't saying that of all of nature's burdens the heaviest is lain on women, she's saying that of all the burdens women bear (women who strive for the traditional goals of feminism, that is), the heaviest is that lain on them by nature. She's not saying that women have a heavier burden lain on them by nature than men. Btw, can I ask you how many wars you've been to? The West has been spared a total war for the last 70 years, even compulsory military service is being phased out. It's jut a bad example in our day and age, that is if you're from the West.

@brucefullwood

6 жыл бұрын

Not buying it, Racoon. The structure of the sentence could be read either way: “Mother Nature gives women the heaviest burden, more so than men,” or your read, “Mother Nature is the source of women’s heaviest burden.” Either way, the fundamental argument is the same because fundamentally, “Mother Nature” is the source of ALL of men’s and women’s’ burdens - Women gestate and as a consequence, she requires protection and provision while gestating and caring for young; that trait is selected in women and she requires it of the men with whom she mates. It can then be said that “Mother Nature” is the fundamental source of the traditional male role of provider and protector. “Btw, can I ask you how many wars you've been to? The West has been spared a total war for the last 70 years, even compulsory military service is being phased out. It's jut a bad example in our day and age, that is if you're from the West.” - You may substitute war for any of example of burdens placed upon men. But you knew that; this was simply an opportunity to take a meaningless swipe. And by the by, MANY men have placed themselves in combat roles and died, Raccoon. Within the last 20 years. So yeah, war remains germane.

Watch, 'The Women,' 1939.

I love this woman. She has a dizzying personality.

Wow. this lady is nuts.

an incredibly smart woman

8:53 tfw dealing with modern idiocy

Only one objection from me... The average person in a grass hut society is happier than an average person of today.

She's a spark plug,... I'd love to see her on the Rubin Report

One year later, it keeps getting worse.

Rome never died. Rome just switched into religion and the state.

No.

It's not the end of men but the end of women. Men are replacing women with love dolls made out of solid silicone and TPE with a stainless steel skeleton frame and these dolls will become robots.