Call me Back # 240 | Where was the IDF on Oct 7? - with Ronen Bergman
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One of the questions we repeatedly get from you, our listeners, is - "Where was the IDF on October 7th?" It's a topic that we have strenuously avoided. After the war, there will be a formal commission of inquiry that attempts to understand all that went wrong and why. There will be a time and a place for that.
And yet, as the war in Gaza winds down, and as Israel prepares for another possible war, this question re-emerges. What lessons can be learned? More and more journalists in Israel are exploring the topic. So, we are going to dedicate an episode from time to time in the weeks ahead to try to understand what these journalists are learning.
Our only caveat is that this is a difficult topic to explore - for all the obvious reasons. The information is uneven... there is still an element of fog of war.
When I was in Israel last week, I visited Ronen Bergman in his home in Ramat HaSharon, to have a long conversation about what he has pieced together.
Ronen is a staff writer for The New York Times Magazine and Senior Correspondent for Military and Intelligence Affairs for Yedioth Ahronoth, an Israeli daily. Ronen recently won a Pulitzer Prize for his reporting on this war and the pre-war intelligence failures.
He has published numerous books, including:
“Rise and Kill First: The Secret History of Israel’s Targeted Assassinations” - tinyurl.com/mwbmchaj
And also, “The Secret War with Iran" - tinyurl.com/2p8sh9u
Ronen is also a member of the Israeli bar (he clerked in the Attorney General’s Office), and has a master’s degree in international relations, as well as a Ph.D. in history from Cambridge University.
Read Ronen's piece in The New York Times here: www.nytimes.com/2023/11/30/wo...
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One of the most painful moments since 10/07. It hurts so much to listen to Ronen. But we must
This episode was the best one yet!!! I listen to all news Israel and this was all new for me. Please have Ronen on again. He is amazing. Thank you both
Cause of 73 and 710 are the same - Vanity, hubris and stop doing everything on Sabbath and Yom Kippur.. Israelis keep forgetting they live among enemies and "Never Again" is not a slogan. Really sad to see that some people just don't learn and listen.
The young ladies in IDF on the border surveillance claim their complaints went unnoticed. Is this true, or exaggerated?
@asafb1984
Ай бұрын
This is true.
@darrenglick100
28 күн бұрын
True
The Kirya needs to be cleaned out. Too many political officers in positions of command that they are unsuited for. This needs to change and change quickly. Remember that incompetent officers are unable to learn from their mistakes. They must be forced out of their positions with competent officers replacing them.
Why did Israel withdraw troops from the Gaza border on October 5th?
For Jewish People -think worst case scenario . Post Yom Kippur War - measure not only intention but capacity . 3,000 troops Gaza Envelope on alert plus equipment .
How is it possible to take out cameras and sensors without anyone noticing for days? And what happened to the surveillance drones and satellites?
@asafb1984
Ай бұрын
They used drones, snipers and missiles to in the begining of the attack.
@DanielTobias
Ай бұрын
@@asafb1984 ok but nobody noticed that all the sensors and cameras were suddenly not transmitting data anymore? And what about the surveillance satellite they launched into space last summer?
@asafb1984
Ай бұрын
@@DanielTobias Israel is very small. The distance between urban areas in gaza to israel can be a less than kilometer. A few minutes af running a you are inside israel.
@DanielTobias
Ай бұрын
@@asafb1984 the IDF usually stops people before they can even reach the fence. It shouldn't have taken over 8 hours to respond.
@asafb1984
Ай бұрын
To my knowledge, there were 12 tanks and 600 infantry men guarding 65km of border. They could not deal with around 3000 Hamas fighters of the first wave.
THEY ALWAYS USE DECEPTION. NEVER TRUST THEIR WORD OR CEASEFIRE.
I think it is too early to know who is going to laugh last. Sinwar or IDF? Yes, Sinwar is banking on international pressure to stop the war but we will not be able to know now if this pressure will bear fruit. Hamas is definitely degraded but not defeated, we have to acknowledge that.
What ronen is not talking about is the gross incompetence of the IDF generals(and govrenment). Most of them did very bad job preparing the IDF to war with Iran and their proxies.
HARDLY GOODWILL WITH BIDEN……
VANITY IS BASED ON SELF BELIEF, RATHER THAN BELIEF IN THE ONE ANOVE
Its mind blowing that the same incompetents are still running the show.
@tdevry
26 күн бұрын
Exactly.
YAD HASHEM