Mr Mavundla is already changing and helping communities ABC💚✊

We have to fight for change ✊💚 I agree with Mr Mavundla

I ABC IZOLETHA INTUTHUKO KUBANTU ABAMNYAMA💚💚💚✊🏾

Mr mavundla he will change the world in few months let give him support as black people of South Africa in ABC we struts viva ABC Mr mavundla out president 💚💚💚💚

@NonduduzoNdlovu-op8vh

23 күн бұрын

Phambili nge ABC 💚💚💚

This conversation is necessary so that Africans can get what is theirs. To end put an end to being disenfranchised in their own land. ABC FOR THE PEOPLE

A very important conversation indeed it's quite sad that when we talk of self determination everybody calls us tribalists, it is imperative that everybody understands that this is not about growing the organization to a national level but the catch is every president is "bought" to become some else's puppet. So to be free Will mean saving a provin ce the rest will follow later in Abc we trust 💚💚 ✊🏾 phambili Mr Mavundla 💚✊🏾

@user-rj4dr6bt6m

23 күн бұрын

The Afrikaner leaders negotiated for SELF DETERMINATION for minorities during the CODESA deliberations in 1994. Therefore there's provision in the constitution for self determination for nations (minority groups).

I see what ABC is trying to do lana and I like it I think it is time for us indlu emnyama to fight for what belong to us okungokwethu makukubeyel kithi ✊🏾I fully support Mr Mavundla I mean mingaki imnyaka sibuswa ngengcindezelo

😪. I don't know if I'm angry 😡 or said. Anc government must fall. Their time is up we need change ASAP.

This conversation was very interesting and it touched on alot experts that needed to be heard. And I completely agree with Mr Mavundla here. I will definitely vote for ABC on the 29th

This conversation is very important because it gives us knowledge about our country as amazulu knowing what was taken from us we tired of supporting criminals who repay us with corruption its time for change ✊💚💚💚

As south African citizens we haven't earn anything we only suffer and we have no power to speak up cause we don't have money ..we are doomed with R350 which is not even enough , it hard to find job's..we don't have access to lots of things in our country so let Mavundla take over so you'll see change ✊💚

ABC inhlangano ezoletha intuthuko kubantu abamnyama💚💚💚💚

This is exactly why Bantu Biko and the BCM were fiercely opposed to tribalism.

Syamthemba ubaba umavundla kwakushoyo coz uthembekile uyakwazi ukubeka umuntu phambili masokhumbula wanikela ngeholo lakhe kwaba hlwempu,💚💚💚✊

We keep living in poverty while other Democratic party pockets a full..what kind of democracy is that..its time we give MR Mavundla the stand to change and hand over what the nation needs 💚✊

@nompumelelolanga2458

23 күн бұрын

They are assisting each other instead of helping the people, kathi what are the Batho Phele principles for within the public service. Ay cha shame

In 30 years were have we got too with this leadership.

@Ritesh-yy1zr

23 күн бұрын

No where, infact we are worse of then ever

@shafiyaalgiquadra1105

23 күн бұрын

The leadership are billionaires because they have been coopted into preserving your privilege this is why we are having this conversation, show a little appreciation for their efforts! They are ineffective precisely so you can keep your illgotten privilege.

@janeschofield9530

23 күн бұрын

WE WENT BACKWARDS

very interesting discussion and I must say even though I don't agree totally with Mavundla but this is the right way to push for this change. Godi is talking about 2060 yet there is nothing happening now.

@shafiyaalgiquadra1105

23 күн бұрын

It is like those who implement this ridiculous system are invested in it failing, they are making no efforts to rescue democracy aka capitalism so this outcome seems unfortunate but inevitable.

These are politicians who know they will never emerge on a national scale but be small fish on a district level in KZN and they think talking about a separate state will give them some momentum but it doesn't do them any favours

@vusidumisanimiya994

23 күн бұрын

I couldn't have put it better than what you have just said Definitely right

@senzomemela1311

23 күн бұрын

What favours has this pipe dream of a democratic state, given us , except so called leaders who are obsessed with self preservation and individual interests. The people of kwaZulu respect and love who they are, ...they don't want to control the whole country, they want to protect their families and children, communities and eventually build a strong nation... I love it...

We are busy castigating Iswatini about their governance system yet on the other hand we are advocating for monarchies. No no no! I mean a no.

@karlgwambe8860

23 күн бұрын

That’s an absolute monarchy, not a constitutional monarchy. Mswati III is the state, not the Head of State

The question of lMF loans Cyril has made needs to be investigated deeply nd speedily ndeed. Same with the presence of illegals here nd all their criminal activities plus the sale of SOEs. Each household manages its affairs exclusively but it is still part of the community nd province nd country ,nd nobody acuses the household of being tribalists so this idea needs to be researched thoroughly instead of being dismissed out of hand there may be merit here.

We should have provincial power bill because in democratic country you get what you vote for.

@MrLechesa

23 күн бұрын

People crying for that are in political parties that can't grow beyond their province. Why is that?

BabuMavundla is right ushintsho alukho Uma umhlaba ungakabuyelu kubaniniwo sthathele ukphathwa ihambi ezweni lethu

This speech is those got tired 30 yaers or Porverty 30 years of struggle Im positive with Baba Mavundla perfectly said ol...

We have to vote for complete system change, firstly the electoral act through constitutional reform to implement direct elections. Vote OHM (Organic Humanity Movement)

Free at last for years the koisan boesman we ready 🎉🎉🎉 note ANC shame on me

South Africa needs a positive attitude leadership role that will united our country and the continent in order to move forward in one voice of unity

Good conversations to be having, very good people on both sides😊

@idusaunion8773

23 күн бұрын

There’s nothing good there, clownish arrangements 😊

@shafiyaalgiquadra1105

23 күн бұрын

@@idusaunion8773 I don't even know what that means, what arrangements?

@BonakeleAyandaLanga

23 күн бұрын

I agree with Mavundla..change is needed we can't be living on below bread net at this time and age..

I think it’s very lazy of politicians to be calling for independent states, it’s actually an indictment on them on their failures to grow beyond regions and fail on building an inclusive economy. Rebuilding was never going to be easy, we need leaders that will work on rebuilding one nation. Yes amend the constitution to redistribute land to its indigenous people.

The land belongs to the people of KwaZulu-Natal And that's all we fighting for

In South Africa there isn't a law requiring citizens to carry their national ID cards with them all the time, but most do carry it as a social norm. It's imperative that legislation is promulgated to compell everybody to carry identity documents with them. Reasons: 1. Good governance 2. Citizen education. 3. Prevention of crime 4. Medical emergencies. 5. Reduce unidentfied kadavers in mortuaries. And many more! Police must check identities at roadstops. They must ask you to show your ID whether you are in your own vehicle or using public transport. In big cities, police officers must be roaming the streets and stop people randomly to check on IDs. When a police officer is checking your ID he must verify, on a database, whether you have any arrest warrants, felonies to pay, or any sort of legal issues you need to sort out. In case you are not carrying your national ID with you, you can show a copy of it, your passport, or your driver’s license. If none, the police officers must take you to the police station to verify your ID. Why wouldn't individuals want to carry his /her identity papers on person at all times? Same as removing car registration numbers ... for nefarious reasons? All the political parties that lobby AGAINST foreigners should rather endeavour to stop ALL faceless people from floating anonymous through SA by introducing compulsary identification, everywhere and at all times.

It been 30 years of struggle, landless and providing poverty not freedom 😢

Godi struggling to defend his stance

The Durban independence has the DA written all over it.

@unathimichaelmxaku8105

23 күн бұрын

100% same as National Party but different colours.

@harley1450ification

23 күн бұрын

No don't be silly. This is a Zulu wanting an independent KZN run by a monarchy. Please, we have enough queens in South Africa, especially the Western Cape.

@nomadicleopard

23 күн бұрын

DA is against independence they want one South Africa

Thabo, we have been talking about changing it, fir years, change the damn thing and let's stop taking about it

We Trust in You Bab Mavundla uzoyenza lento ngoba usuqalile ubuyisela emphakathini usiza kwabaswele masingabambisana sabantu abamnyama singalwenza ushintsho

"It is not working for the Natives"!!!

Ake sinike iABC ithuba ngoba iza nentuthuko enkulu kakhulukazi kuthina Bantu abamnyama, kahle kahle uMr Mavundla uzobuyisa Izwe lethu. #VoteABC #Electiona2024

@user-bo6nt3ky7l

22 күн бұрын

Mawusho abantu abamnyama usho AmaZulu kuphela???speaking as a Zulu myself..iABC imele iKZN kuphela..umqondo osibuyisela emuva kakhulu lowo..asihlanganeni sibe yinto enye as abantu abanymama emzansi

Tell the ABC guy to leave if they want out. But leave our South Africa as it is. His out there advocating for tribalism...

@Sakhephi

23 күн бұрын

Are Lesotho, Botswana, Germany, Eswatini countries built on tribalism?

@Kush-Kemet

23 күн бұрын

​@@SakhephiAre they superpowers, because USA, Russia and China are, and they're united not separated

@Sakhephi

23 күн бұрын

@@Kush-Kemet what does being a superpower have anything to do with a right to self determination?

@Kush-Kemet

23 күн бұрын

@@SakhephiThat's is why we were Colonized, because we weren't united, Now imagine if Tswanas, Sothos, Zulus, Xhosas, Khoi,San fought as unite, We will still be having our LAND

@senzomemela1311

23 күн бұрын

​​@@Kush-Kemetas long as we do not appreciate who we are , our identity, then we are still colonised...The term tribalism was introduced by colonizers to discourage African nations from loving who they are, in order to make us weak...look at the Arab Kingdom s of nations...look how strong they are economically...

We need a redraft not an amendment

Abantu ababuse izwe labo Masilwen silwele inguquko yodwa mazulu sizimele nathi njengoba abanye bethu bekwenzile lokho nathi ngeke sihluleke futhi

Join Mk party guys

As umZulu I would like to say!,not all of us want separatism!,a majority of us are Pan Africanist

@senzomemela1311

23 күн бұрын

Your view does not represent the majority of the Zulu people. The Zulu nation is formed by families who are the children of the King...they recognise the King more than this democratic government..Where do you get the idea of this pan africanism...Our identity is that of a Zulu nation first, Africa is the land we live in , it is not who we are...

@nomadicleopard

23 күн бұрын

​@@senzomemela1311 hi Senzo, Lunga is a Malema fanatic. He loves communism and he hates Zulu values.

@MrLechesa

23 күн бұрын

African Unity shall prevail. These are small thinking obstructions.

@caesar3909

23 күн бұрын

No we are not. I am Zulu first, then black South African, then African.

@MrLechesa

23 күн бұрын

@@caesar3909 Don't be a regional thinker. If I place you anywhere in the world, you'll be regarded as An African man 1st. Always have the bigger picture in mind. Your 'Zuluness' defines your Africanness. The two are not exclusive.

from 1994 until 2024 30 yrs wonke nothing change Join team ABC you won't go wrong

@NonduduzoNdlovu-op8vh

23 күн бұрын

Phambili nge ABC 💚

Fikile Mbalula Salary and Income So his annual income is around 2.47 million ZAR which makes his per month income equal to R258 833. As he holds the position of Minister of Transport and some of the highest salaries in South Africa are of ministers. He does not have a matric. Which is not important as there are people who have made success out of there lives.

@Kush-Kemet

23 күн бұрын

What about DA's John Stuinhessen in parliament, and now he wants to be President do the maths ..

@Kush-Kemet

23 күн бұрын

John Stuinhessen is earning More than R1.5 million and doesn't have Matric 😂😅

@MrLechesa

23 күн бұрын

Fikile is not Minister of Transport. You're stuck in the past.

@MrLechesa

23 күн бұрын

Oh! And the only current politician without Matric is Steenhuizen

@Qotha

23 күн бұрын

And how much do FF+ and DA parliamentarians earning per anum?

I agree with the Zulu nationalist, and I also don’t agree with him.

No I do not agree that the current South Africa is working for the minority. South Africa is not working for anybody! I agree it is time for people to take pride in the respective cultures and languages! If the Zulu people want self determination; I will support it (and so will I for any other group)! Interesting though when Afrikaners talk the same talk it is kamma racist

@truth-Hurts375

23 күн бұрын

Meet Stupid !!!! Will you also agree if the Coulards want the Western Cape instead of the White Racist Domkoppe??? Not in a million years....Go to Orania...you will fit in there nicely !!!!🖕🖕

@shafiyaalgiquadra1105

23 күн бұрын

When they say the most unequal society in the universe, who do you think they mean is unequal to who and why?

@shafiyaalgiquadra1105

23 күн бұрын

And the Dutch settler cannot have an Israel in Africa.😊

@christiandewitt7459

23 күн бұрын

@@shafiyaalgiquadra1105 The Dutch is as much as settler as the Bantu. South Africa is the most unequal country world because the poor has been left behind by the ANC government for the past 30 years. We have had maybe 1% growth in the last 10 years and jobs have been steadily declining. As an example, just look at the Shell debacle; the BBBEE partner was Thebe Investment Company; who is owned by Batho Batho Trust (BBT) of who the ANC (and tripartheid alliance partners) are the ONLY beneficiaries. BBT was one of the biggest donors to the ANC and is but one such avenue. Excuse me if I am wrong; but I thought BBBEE was a necessary racist law to help uplift those who were left behind by the previous dispensation; not a vehicle for the black elites to enrich themselves? Doesn’t that sound quite a lot like the bourgeoisie the ANC and SACP are always talking about? And what about the job losses if / when Shell pulls out of South Africa, just because the ANC wants more money for themselves? Haibo - honestly, I think it is time ALL South Africans see ALL other South Africans as equal human beings! I believe we can flourish together so long as everyone has place to call their own where they are free to be taught in their own home language, hence why I say what I am saying.

@shanaazcloete8531

23 күн бұрын

@@shafiyaalgiquadra1105 Nor can Foreigners from other African countries decide on South Africa.

Temba Godi is right! South Africa has NEVER been a country or a nation and it will never be a country. There are at least 9 diverse nations in SA that need to govern themselves. Go ahead Temba Godi! You are on the right track!

@Kush-Kemet

23 күн бұрын

Dutch/Europeans

@senzomemela1311

23 күн бұрын

Before Europeans came to our land, there was no South Africa...South Africa was part of the Kingdoms of Africa under their Kings, who are the true fathers of nations and true owners of this land. Mr Godi and others are just negotiating for their families and salaries from the state, they are not the true representatives of the African nations, they are not true leaders...

@Qotha

23 күн бұрын

Europeans belong to Europe not here

@user-rj4dr6bt6m

23 күн бұрын

@@Qotha Bantu Africans belong in Cameroon, not in SA! The original residents of SA, the KhoiSan, are of light complexion and small in posture. GOOGLE!

@Qotha

23 күн бұрын

@@user-rj4dr6bt6m Khoisan never settled, they were hunters and still are. Bantu have older kingdoms here in Southern Africa way before 1652, so chill. Lastly almost all tribes in South Africa have intermarried with Khoisans meaning in all our tribes there is KHOI blood except in Europeans and Indians because they were living separately from natives. Onother thing light skin doesn't make an African a European .

Our ancestors died so that amazambane would not be called artappels but alas...😶

@nivob4076

23 күн бұрын

But when you go to the shop you buy potatoes

@shafiyaalgiquadra1105

23 күн бұрын

@@nivob4076 you may have missed the point.

@shafiyaalgiquadra1105

23 күн бұрын

@@nivob4076 you missed the point.

@shafiyaalgiquadra1105

23 күн бұрын

@@nivob4076 what is your contention?

@tholslanga

23 күн бұрын

ys dear they died for our freedom do u see any of it it been 30yrs since the ruling party take over bt still dear sell out it time for chsnge less vote forabc 💚✊

Can these people discuss how the ANC has been responsible for what has happened to South Africa. These people make no mention of a plan forward. Start speaking from the top down.

@Kush-Kemet

23 күн бұрын

It was the Apartheid government Who denied majority of South Africans proper education, access to universities for more than 300 years....do the maths

@Ritesh-yy1zr

23 күн бұрын

They haven't a clue

@Qotha

23 күн бұрын

Don't forget the Rand manipulators

@shafiyaalgiquadra1105

23 күн бұрын

No, we are discussing how to bypass the bought out ANC so we are not intentionally marooned in debates while lives waste away. Don't distract us!

@tholslanga

23 күн бұрын

anc failed the country dismal it tym for change tjio less give Mr Mavundla a chance less vote for ABC 💚✊

SA's constitution is not this greatest constitution the world adores, many Trojan horses.

This constitution is the BEST, no need to change it.

@lihlebusakwe1662

23 күн бұрын

I you a anc member

@shanaazcloete8531

23 күн бұрын

Leave it to South Africans to make that decision. We cannot have citizens of neighbouring countries telling us.

@shanaazcloete8531

23 күн бұрын

@@lihlebusakwe1662 He is Zimbabwean always interfering.

@SenziNdlovu-qf1zz

23 күн бұрын

Best for who

So land must not be viewed as a commodity to be traded between individuals.......wow, so we plan to magically make land an infinite resource?! The whole reason it is called TRADE is because it is people swopping more of/less of a given commodity, precisely because the given quantity is LIMITED. To think otherwise is so incredibly daft. I know that this comment will be read by no-one and understood by even fewer. Oh well.

@Kush-Kemet

23 күн бұрын

LAND was stolen, first resolve that...

@senzomemela1311

23 күн бұрын

In Africa there is no private ownership of land. The idea of one man owning land and others considered as peasants, is a European fallacy, that has produced inequality and poverty.... In Africa land is owned by a king on behalf of the people. This allows people to access land for usage , not for private ownership...Then you can farm on the land and trade with agricultural products not with land...

@garethbarry3825

23 күн бұрын

@@senzomemela1311 hmnnn, and that's worked so well for Africa...this myth that in Africa, there were no wars over land before Europeans arrived. Africa was a never ending story of conquest between tribes over land! Listen man, land is a LIMITED RESOURCE! And if you want to go back to being ruled over by a King, well, good luck to you. What you have just described as your ideal 'African model' of land ownership IS FEUDALISM!!! We agree that Feudalism was bad-feudalism was FINISHED in Western Europe by the late 15th century!! And the thing that finished it was....THE FREE MARKET! Look man, economically, the whole point of ownership of ANYTHING is because things are LIMITED. No amount of ideology is going to somehow increase supply. If land is owned by a King, how will it be decided who gets the most and who gets the best land? Historically, this model of allocation of resources has not worked well, regardless of culture that has tried it.

@garethbarry3825

23 күн бұрын

@@Kush-Kemet It's been resolved-land claims have been running since the mid 90s. That land-claimants choose to take the money, or misuse the land given to them, resolve that......

@Kush-Kemet

23 күн бұрын

@@garethbarry3825Land owned by settlers is Stolen LAND period!

When you return the Zulus to a dictatorship like in feudal times you will have to sacrifice your freedoms ... 1. freedom of expression, 2. movement, 3. enterprize 4. property No private enterprize will invest in a Zulu dictatorship.

@senzomemela1311

23 күн бұрын

This so-called freedom of democracy, which is a Greek myth, has stripped the African nations of their identity, self confidence and economy.... While the , Arabs are not part of this democracy, they remain prosperous and in charge of their mineral resources and wealth...

@senzomemela1311

23 күн бұрын

This Democracy which is a Greek myth has stripped the African nations of their identity, self confidence and their wealth...The Arab nations who are not part of this democracy, continue to prosper and Dubai is full of international investors, who respect Arabs because they respect who they are...

@truth-Hurts375

23 күн бұрын

​@@senzomemela1311Try a brain transplant....no fewer than 300million Arabs live in absolute poverty and you dare to mention Dubai...what a facking joke !!!!

@BonakeleAyandaLanga

23 күн бұрын

I don't see a problem in us believe on who we are as a nation aswell so why not try this out and see how it's folds off..

How do you come on national TV and talk such nonsense!

@celumusazikhali7040

23 күн бұрын

What's is nonsense here

@BonakeleAyandaLanga

23 күн бұрын

Nonsense,where I dnt hear any nonsense here on my ears

@SiyabongaDlamini-bs2kd

23 күн бұрын

Iyiphi leyo nonsense coz ubaba uzama ukulungisa izwe labantu abamnyama

@nompumelelolanga2458

23 күн бұрын

What nonsense??

@SenziNdlovu-qf1zz

23 күн бұрын

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and i respect that but bringing back what was stolen from us is not nosense

Smoking some good Durban shit here. This is a very dangerous conversation from blue shirt. Same like Cape Independence.