Watching Boris go from a loathsome apparatchik to one of the most sympathetic characters, ever, in television history is only one of the many remarkable aspects of this series.

@servantofmelian9966

2 жыл бұрын

I understand that after this series aired, Scherbina's grave (and Legasov's) were suddenly covered in flowers. I believe it.

@KittysInu

Жыл бұрын

I don't think he was that horrible in the first place, he's simply experienced. Legasov let his emotions fly and pissed people off rather than convince them of anything. Boris knew that would only hinder their efforts, and that was only after he figured out how serious it was. He originally thought it was a roof fire, because he was told that's all it could be and they wouldnt have put him in charge otherwise (at least in his mind). Obviously this isnt a word for word rendition of events, but we've seen him stand up for Legasov since they touched down. Legasov got heckled for telling "lies" about what happened, Boris stepped in. Afterwards he immediately went to work getting Legasov the helicopters, boron, sand, tried warning him about the miners, and everything else. I don't think he was unsympathetic, I just don't think he had any idea what was at stake. He worked in the oil and gas industry, there's no emergency he would've faced or known about that is even comparable to what he walked into. But once he saw how truly terrified Legasov was he was on board. I also think General Pikalov's attitude convinced him as well. He was someone who would likely be at least somewhat familiar with the danger being head of the chemical division of the army, and he took the risk upon himself to check the radiation levels around the reactor ahead of his troops arriving. Boris had no idea what was going on, but the two men who did were working very urgently, and so Boris worked urgently alongside them. And went on to do the same after the 1988 Armenian earthquake

@maksphoto78

Ай бұрын

Hes bluntness and nastiness was invented for this HBO series. In real live, both him and Legasov were very reasonable, listened to each other's advice and cooperated.

"For god's sake Boris, your were the one who mattered most" that scene in the show gets me the most. Legasov knew what was going to happen to him if he spoke up and yet he was more concerned with comforting a man who had become his friend.

Good news, we completed the safety test and we now know the reactor is unsafe. These are great results comrade.

That steel lid weighed 1000 metric tons which equals 2,000,000 pounds. Each of the steel caps in the lid weighed over 700 pounds. And they were jumping.

Im a hunter in Germany and in some parts of Germany, we still have to check the wild boar that we shoot. Some of them still contain radiation.

@MrSinEon

Жыл бұрын

In sweden its muchrooms and barries. Remember we had dried muchrooms in school that when we studied radioaktivity

@adewale007

Жыл бұрын

The hill farmers have to do the same with their livestock here in the UK.

I was there in 2011, while the containment structure was still under construction. The monument to the firefighters is powerful. The surrounding area is oddly verdant. Except for the red forest, still dead. You were not allowed any closer to the actual reactor #4 than a brief stop at the monument. In Pripyat, you are instructed not to touch the vegetation or the ground, and open-toed shoes or sandals were forbidden.

@UFCANT

2 жыл бұрын

Hope the monument is still there. Russia went right into Chernobyl at the start of the war.

@alanfoster6589

2 жыл бұрын

@@UFCANT I hadn't thought of that. Perhaps someone can inform us.

@tokyosmash

2 жыл бұрын

@@UFCANT should be fine, fighting up close to the plant was limited

@deedubya286

2 жыл бұрын

I was there in 2011 as well. I had been fascinated by the accident ever since watching it unfold on CNN back in 1986. As soon as I found out that you could take a tour there, I started looking into how to book it. I'll never forget seeing that iconic cooling tower come into view during the bus trip from Kiev.

@VeryDeathlyShiny

Жыл бұрын

@@UFCANT Dude, I read a story about that. So, apparently - in Russia, the Chernobyl disaster is not taught well - if at all. So, when that company of Russian soldiers arrived at the plant, they were ordered to dig foxholes and trenches... *in the f'ing RED FOREST,* to defend themselves against the Ukranian forces that (they thought oddly) never showed up. They stayed in those foxholes and trenches, in that disturbed earth - the very same earth that was *highly contaminated,* completely ignorant of the danger to their health it was causing. All the while, The Ukranian forces had intelligence on the Russians and knew precisely what they were doing and just let them essentially dig their own graves. When they left, they took that radiation with them and the article said that the cancers that it will cause will be uniqely identifiable so the soliders and their families will be able to be tracked based upon their health and cancer records. Shit's wild.

One of the greatest courtroom scenes I've ever witnessed - informative and emotive..this whole finale was actually.

@samsherrington7423

2 жыл бұрын

Thats him? What the smeg

@nickthepeasant

2 жыл бұрын

Hehe his voice made me think so but I was mistaken..so went all Soviet and edited that out I flamingoed up

@saucyduckglobalomnihyperme7510

Жыл бұрын

I like how at 19:20 or so, the judges look to the prosecutor for permission to let Legasov continue. Just in an instant you see who was really in charge of a Soviet trial.

As Legasov said, reactors in the West are not RBMK reactors. Our reactors don't have that flaw. For context, every single aircraft career we have and most of our submarines run on nuclear reactors. In 60+ years, there has never been a nuclear accident on a Navy ship.

No one ever mentions the irony when Legasov accidentally drops the sign with the boron on it that dropps the ractivity.

One interesting detail--that test was (evidently) never successfully carried out in any such nuclear reactor, ever.

i saw the news reports as they happened live on TV. in school they wheeled TV's into the classroom so we could learn about it. they also did the same with the challenger explosion and the rescue of baby Jessica. then i would come home from school and watch the nightly news to continue following the stories.

This is such a consequential movie. It's such an excellent way of teaching a massively important moment in history.

Nuclear power is statistically (including Chernobyl victims) the safest power we have. And the only thing we have to do to make it ultimately safe is just to deal with selfish and stupid people, and not allow state censorship.

@necrionos

2 жыл бұрын

"only", have you looked whats going on in the USA and UK and in general in world politics? i would argue we (humans) have been doing the opposite of dealing with our most negative aspects in the last 10 years or more

@acecombatter6620

2 жыл бұрын

What happens when you add in Three Mile Island victims and Fukushima victims?

@Markus117d

2 жыл бұрын

@@acecombatter6620 Honestly it's hardly a tiny blip in comparison, While both the incident in Japan and the Chernobyl disaster are in the same international disaster category, Chernobyl is so far off the charts that the nuclear safety guide chart for radiation exposure goes only as far as half the Rontgen per hour that Chernobyl produced, Fukushima released about 520 petabecquerels of radioactive material compared with the 5,300 petabecquerels released by Chernobyl. No one has died as a direct result of Fukushima as far as anyone internationaly is aware, While Chernobyl"s toll will probably never be completely known...

@swhaw

2 жыл бұрын

@@acecombatter6620 The thing about TMI is that nobody actually got sick or died as a result of the accident. While the accident was potentially extremely dangerous the information spread to the public about the disaster was riddled with contradictions and misinformation as a direct result of mishandled interaction with the media. The amount of radiation that was released from TMI was done so in a controlled manner and was less than 1% of the radiation released from Chernobyl in the form of much less dangerous gasses in the form of Krypton and Xenon. To put it into perspective in relation to the elements mentioned being released as a result of Chernobyl with half lives of multiple hundred or thousands of years, the half life of Xenon is just 5ish days. As well as the fact that krypton and xenon is incapable of being absorbed by the human body in the same way that other isotopes are. The resulting radiation released measured was about 8 millirem which you get more of just standing outside in the cosmic rays of our sun. As well as coupled with the fact that the rates of disease and cancer in the surrounding area was around the statistical average. It is a panic caused by a series of the good old fashioned saying of correlation does not equal causation. The fears scientists had of possible disaster stemmed from the hydrogen that built up in the core of the reactor and its possible interaction with oxygen which potentially could have exploded as hydrogen only can combust in the presence of oxygen. They were unsure if there was enough oxygen to cause an ignition (taking out the containment building that was built around the core which was mentioned that the west does in the courtroom scene as a safety precaution that the USSR didn't do was rated to withstand such a blast.). However the alternative was that the hydrogen would bond with the oxygen and form water. Which is what happened. This was debated all the way up until President Jimmy Carter landed in PA to visit the reactor. Carter himself specialized in nuclear power in the Navy and even he had told his staff that he didn't even consider it a disaster, he didn't share this with the American people for fear of offending anti-nuclear Democrats in the house and senate, the same kind of political bullshit we are all too familiar with today. They noticed the "bubble" of hydrogen was getting smaller in the core indicating that it was reacting with the oxygen to form water. The people who still spread the lies that it was some unmitigated disaster is still capitalized today by people who seek to make a profit on the public stress and fear that the media they release still generates. The only radioactive material released into the environment was done safely as a result of the emission from the decay tank where the gasses were sent to release pressure from the system as a result of the build up of gasses and was completely safe, albeit it was vented to the decay tank without informing anybody by a single plant supervisor. The following radiation was detected from a helicopter passing over the vents of the tank directly at the source of the venting gas. I recommend watching Kyle Hill's video about the incident from his Half Life Histories series as it is extremely informative and breaks down the chain of events extremely well down to the second. I for one trust his detailed account as well as the MANY scientific papers written about the incident over the media who was never properly informed of the incident and the resulting cash grabs that prey off of public fear and their lack of understanding of nuclear power and the operation of nuclear power plants.

@frufruJ

2 жыл бұрын

Plus, it's clean and stable.

This is my single favorite episode of any show/series I've seen.

All things considered, nuclear power is a relatively safe form of power generation. The 1st commercial nuclear power plant was built in 1954. There are currently 440 power plants in use worldwide today. And there have only been 7 "disasters". It's like airplane travel. It is still the safest form of travel, but when a plane crashes, it is huge. Same applies to nuclear power plants. Anywho, thanks for your reaction to this incredible series.

Afterword: Lyudmila wanted to move on, and turned down 5 offers to come on as a consultant. After the show, people kept showing up on her doorstep. She moved out of Kyiv to get away. Dyatlov really was like that, according to his surviving colleagues. Not all the time, but enough. He gave an interview near the end of his life, claiming still that he was in the toilet. Fomin slashed his wrists with his glasses while awaiting trial. He was let go early for mental instability. Later, he was let go of his job at the Kalinin reactor for the same reason. The only job Bryukhanov could find was as a minor paper pusher in the Ukranian ministry of trade. Legasov was not actually at the trial, but the results were the same: most of his colleagues at the Kurchatov Institute ostracized him, and he was voted down for director, which he expected to get. That broke him. They actually toned down the radiation injuries, but I'll spare you the details.

@SweetLou0523

2 жыл бұрын

Not defending Fomin because his avarice was absolutely critical in the cause of the accident, but his life before and after Chernobyl is truly tragically sad. In a way, I pity him.

I live in Sweden, It's 2022, We still have certain times when we are told not to pick mushrooms or berries from certain areas in the wild. Also, the Sea between Sweden and mainland europe has a shitload of fallout in the bottom I think, Its full of dead zones, so sadly, it seems to be unofficially legal to dump crap in it.

@mrfisher1072

2 жыл бұрын

I always thought the dead zone was from the Russian nuclear submarine that went down and several warships from WW2 spewing out toxins from it's ammo? I'm not from Europe nor have I really looked into it just things I remember reading and watching on tv.

@CyberWar666

2 жыл бұрын

@@mrfisher1072 Dead zones in the Baltic Sea have nothing to do with radioactive fallout or wartime munitions. These are properly called anoxic zones, meaning they have little to no oxygen dissolved in the water. They are pretty common and normal in enclosed bodies of water like the Baltic where water circulation is limited. Black Sea, for example, is 90% anoxic, with most life only able to survive in the top 50-100 meters of water, owing to the only connection with the rest of the world's oceans being the small and shallow Bosphorus strait. Anoxic zones in the Baltic are expanding and becoming problematic because of an entirely different kind of pollution - runoff of agricultural fertilizers, which promote the growth of plankton that consumes oxygen. With poor water exchange rates, there's no way for water on the bottom to mix and replenish its oxygen contents, so anaerobic bacteria start to grow there instead and produce a lot of sulphur dioxide, which kills off most other life, effectively rendering part of the water column dead. For this reason, the EU has imposed pretty strict regulations on the sale and use of agricultural chemicals. Now, there are also several sites in the Baltic where chemical weapons were discarded after the war, but they have been a minor concern so far, slowly rusting away and dissolving in a gradual process. Every now and then fishermen haul out chemical shells and get burned, but other than that, they are a minor problem. In the 80's and 90's, a more pressing problem used to be "false amber" washing up on the shores of Lithuania and Latvia. The Soviet military used to have a firing range on the seaside there, with white phosphorus munitions frequently being used for smokescreens and illumination. Obsolete WP shells would also be destroyed there in large numbers simply by exploding them. Quite a bit of that white phosphorus ended up in the sea before burning up, and would later be washed out on the shore where unsuspecting people would collect it, mistaking it for the similar-looking amber, and get severely burned. Most of the phosphorus is gone now, though sometimes little bits still wash up, so people looking for amber are still advised to exercise caution and learn to tell it apart from phosphorus. Also, you are mistaken about the submarine. The submarine Kursk sank in the Barents Sea, not the Baltic (there's Finland and a bit of Russia in between the two). Also, its reactor was undamaged, so there was no significant radiation leak in the environment.

A wonderful closing to this story. An informative, understandable explanation of the events. Boris gets his due. Fine performances are exceptional here. It's thrilling to watch every time. Here we go! :) Thanks! for this one. I always enjoy your company. "Chernobyl" is special.

Thank you very much for your reaction, it was interesting to review this series with you. Yes, it is atmospheric and very good, and at the same time very scary. But it had to be filmed and shown to the whole world, it seems to me.

You did a great reaction to this great series!! As a younger person, you should read about the 1980 Titan missle silo explosion in Arkansas. It is called the Damascus incident. We came close to a nuclear explosion in the United States. Again, great reaction to this series!

The scene at 14:39, my favorite by far. From maybe any show ever produced. Unbelievable acting and writing. Tear jerking.

@tokyosmash

2 жыл бұрын

Right there with you

@bjarnetollevsen2163

Жыл бұрын

With a name like that I was really expecting to see some blond bimbo instead. XD

@NothingButSilicone

Жыл бұрын

@@bjarnetollevsen2163 Nah, I’m just making fun of the “modern” and “independent” western woman.

@bjarnetollevsen2163

Жыл бұрын

@@NothingButSilicone Heh. The Barbie archetype would work better for that purpose too tbh.

@NothingButSilicone

Жыл бұрын

@@bjarnetollevsen2163 With Cardi B and her WAP song? Her backside, chest, and lips are all fake.

4:04 do you see those many vehicles? they were all put there because of contamination of the beam because they are contaminated. In principle, they are still there today. the people living nearby are fools, unfortunately they are, and some of the contaminated vehicles or parts were spread around the country, the state did not take care of them (although who would be there to take care of them when they "radiate") and these vehicles were sold to others after "renovation" or the parts, without mentioning where the customer got them, or they knew who took them but they didn't care because they needed them

love maples reactions, gets me so into the movies/episodes, great show, been putting off watching it for the longest time until seeing her reactions for it

You wanna know what else was recent alongside Chernobyl? 3 Mile Island nuclear meltdown back in March 1979 in Londonderry Township, Pennsylvania. The INES classified 3 Mile Island as class 5 (accident with wider consequences, kind of a mini Chernobyl). However, the impact of radiation poisoning due to nuclear fallout on US citizens are traced back to the 50's from the Nevada test sites.

This show does in a sense gives you an idea to how far governments will go to cover up unwanted incidents no matter the cost, and not only lie to the people but lie to the world to no only save face but to appear strong in their weakest moment. Legasov talking about the truth and the cost of lies is something that we should bear in mind even today, one only need to look at the state of the current world.

I love watching maple getting sucked in and enjoying the learning.

There is a bit of interesting subtle work going on in Charkov's final conversation with Legasov. He makes mention of Legasov limiting advancement of Jewish scientists. Charkov is a fictional character but he is based on real life former head of the KGB Yuri Andropov who was half Jewish. Charkov seems uncharacteristically bothered by that detail so it might have actually struck a nerve with him

@iggs67

Жыл бұрын

His mother was dropped at the doorstep of a Jewish family, but her background is unknown. So, most likely, ethnically Andropov wasn't Jewish.

@haroldlipschitz9301

11 ай бұрын

Not sure why they went with a fictional character and cast an actor who looked very similar to the actual KGB head at the time of Chernobyl - Viktor Chebrikov

The courtroom scene was very well done, and the one-on-one with Boris and Legasov was and is very moving. What takes this episode to absolute perfection for me was the epilogue. Seeing the real people involved was a brilliant choice, and using the Russian Orthodox funeral hymn (Vichnaya Pamyat which means Eternal Memory) over it was, in my mind, the perfect choice. The entire episode acts as a monument to those people who gave everything, and had everything taken from them.

I was in high school when this happened. It was a defining event of my era.

The caterpillar scene was unscripted.......amazing........really enjoyed all your reactions. Thanks for sharing.

Wonderful documentary !

That title sure is something

@Diegesis

2 жыл бұрын

It sure is

Great reaction to one of the scariest true story horror shows!

There's a book: " The voices of Chernobyl". It was one of the sources of the plot of the movie. The Book consists of stories and interview with many of the people who was there

There are videos of people going into the hospital basement and testing the firefighter's clothes with radiation meters. They are still incredibly radioactive.

Chernobyl created a new type of mold and fungi, both devour radiation. places where they found the mold and fungi, radiation levels that should have been high were extremely low. NASA and the Russian space agency began studying the mold for use on space vessels for absorption of radiation

This series earned my sub.

Great series

1:01 This is what happens when loyalty is a greater criteria for advancement than competence.

Some further Chernobyl facts: A giant container (called the sarcophagus) was literally built around the entire exposed reactor core of Chernobyl around 20 years ago. Radiation STILL deteriorated it, so ANOTHER, better container was built around THAT and only finished about five years ago. Cleanup of the site is expected to last 40 more years.

Thanks for reaction to this great series. I'm so glad it got you curious about things and then state of nuclear power in the US. It's really unfortunate that we're unlikely to get a serious commitment to using nuclear for a lot of public perception reasons. I hope you get into a few more short series! There are some excellent miniseries out there.

@kyleromus6845

Жыл бұрын

its that word "nuclear" The ignorant are terrified of it.

that fumble with the card of harris wasn't in the script, they just went with it. Same with the army guy fixing the mic position and the caterpilar scene.

Yep...the blue room is the cold hard room of truth. His truth and the KGBs truth. Which is cold!!! Amazing series, I watched it when it came out but now gonna watch again after following your reactions

@RobertMorgan

Жыл бұрын

He had a point: When the bullet hits your skull, does it really matter why?

The nuclear reactors in the US are much safer, but we learned after the Japanese Nuclear disaster a few years back that they were not safe enough. However, that was an older 1970s model reactor, and the newer ones have even more safety features. It should be noted that the Japanese reactor had a similar accident, following a tsunami that took out its backup generators, but much of the damage was contained by the containment walls...though not all.

@Andrew-km7bl

2 жыл бұрын

Except for 3 mile island.....that show about it and the cover ups by " our government " is beyond sickening

@shag139

2 жыл бұрын

Dumbasses put the backup generators in the basement aka a flood risk from tsunamis. If they had been elevated, Fukushima is never a thing.

@whalenonfools

2 ай бұрын

@@Andrew-km7bl what are you talking about lmao

@Andrew-km7bl

2 ай бұрын

@@whalenonfools I'm talking about nuclear reactors in the US aren't as safe as the above comment mentions......3 mile island accident was sickening beyond belief as the government tried to cover it up just like Chernobyl....watch the documentary about 3 mile

@whalenonfools

2 ай бұрын

@@Andrew-km7bl how did the government try to cover up 3 Mile Island? The president literally went to the plant.

3:59 I love her response. No it’s not… Harsh but true.

Boris is one of the unsung heroes in history.

dyatlov is the reason mutinies exist. he can't ruin his employees if his head got bashed in when he err accidentally slipped and slammed his face against his stupid ashtray

I obviously got my storms wrong, and yes the earthquake and tsunami were terrible tragedies for all those effected. My concern was still about the condition of those plants now.

The lesson here is not Nuclear power bad. . . . . Its pride cometh before a fall. Everything here was preventable yet nationalisim and pride got in the way. . . .

And this really happened

In Ukraine, close to Pripyat if am not wrong, there is a Statue for the fire fighters, the "biorobots" and all who helped, the Statue says "to those who saved the world".

@tonikaihola5408

2 жыл бұрын

I saw one in Chernobyl, might that one.

@c4ns3r53

2 жыл бұрын

@@tonikaihola5408 I know how the Statue looks like but I dont remember how it was called or were was it. It looke like a pillar in the middle with a firefighter and a worker on each side.

@tonikaihola5408

2 жыл бұрын

@@c4ns3r53 sounds about right Edit: found it en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monument_to_Those_Who_Saved_the_World

It was literally impossible for them to admit to any fault. Like all authoritarian systems, it requires the image of infallibility, of superiority, to keep dissent to a minimum. Admitting failure, or flaws, is a weakness. For the USSR to have admitted the RBMK flaws, would have made the USSR look bad not only to the west, but also to the people of the USSR itself. And now Putinia is following the same playbook .

Good watchalong (:

Fortunately nuclear reactors are quite safe nowadays, because of The Chernobyl disaster.

The women didn't exist, but she represent a group of scientist in real life that want to tell the true at that time.

@Strider91

2 жыл бұрын

Ya, I saw on a behind the scenes that everything we see her go through in this show happened to one or more of the actual team members working on the investigation. It was just easier to roll them all into one character.

@richieclean

2 жыл бұрын

As if it doesn't tell you that at the end of the episode...

@richieclean

2 жыл бұрын

As if it doesn't tell you that at the end of the episode...

21:12 that scene always terrifies me. I work in a factory environment and that would be like seeing a water pipe I know can withstand double the pressure we operate at blowing bolts off a flange or fitting I know would take far more pressure to affect. It's serious GTFO time, things are going wildly wrong.

(our goal is the happiness of all mankind) You can imagine how the rulers see the happiness of mankind And Knowledge and science are considered a crime🙂

You are correct about people not knowing what they are doing. It wasn’t the best man or woman for the job. It was the most loyal and trusted party members for jobs.

@captainz9

Жыл бұрын

Which worries me today with the push to hire people for "diversity" rather than skill/expertise... Nothing against diversity if they're the best choice, but give me the choice of a critically important job being filled by a skilled expert or a lesser skilled "diversity hire" I would choose the best. I don't care if the plane I'm flying at 30,000ft was designed by someone of any race/gender, but I sure as heck want it designed by someone who knows what they're doing, not someone who fills a quota because 2+2=racism/sexism.

a society based on terror and lies//troutbumandsam

@vaziralramin4565

2 жыл бұрын

🤦‍♂️🤣

The music used for this gives me massive anxiety...with a tad sense of dread...that's how good this show was.

It's comforting to know that mess is now in the middle of an active war zone.

I will start of with saying that I'm against nuclear reactors, BUT they are not as dangerous today as in this show. As stated in the series they pushed the core to the limit because they thought they could turn it off in worst case scenario. But they couldn't. Reactors aren't done the same way anymore. Way more safety. But still with nuclear power we can never be 100% sure. The point in this series is to show the damage lies can do. If they would have just told the truth from the start so much death and suffering could have been avoided.

@CloudJL

Жыл бұрын

Incompetence and negligence is dangerous as well! The primary cause of this nuclear accident and others.

The release timing of this show. "What is the cost of lies?" then and one year later we ran the experiment again but on a world level. Turns out, it's still a high cost.

2:08 welcom in the communizm.... i liv in this "communizm"

@derrickowen8162

2 жыл бұрын

There are people in the US who want that SO badly for some reason.

@utalomAlibbantakat

2 жыл бұрын

@@derrickowen8162 🤣 dont try

I hope no-one tells Maple about Three Mile Island, the US's own mini-meltdown. Although there is a four part documentary on Netflix called "Meltdown: Three Mile Island"

@shag139

2 жыл бұрын

TMI resulted in a small release of very short lived radioactive gases. Study after study by multiple universities, govt, think tanks, found no impact to public health. What actually happened at TMI: kzread.info/dash/bejne/lYBtstV8fK3WcaQ.html

@FuzzyLogic77

2 жыл бұрын

Was about to recommend that documentary. Looking at the way the Three Mile Island incident was handled and seeing the way Chernobyl was, really shows that in the end most governments have more in common than they would care to admit.

Its probably not safe for them to go back... LOL it wont be for thousands of years.

So what's next your list 🤔?

@Diegesis

2 жыл бұрын

No idea

@joshuacampbell7493

2 жыл бұрын

Spider-Man into the Spider-Verse, Shawshank Redemption & The Mummy. You guys mentioned on your community.

@Diegesis

2 жыл бұрын

i thought you meant next to watch. those are already being edited and waiting on sponsors etc.

This relate to today because the Ukraine plan is if power is lost to their main plant is for diesel generators to take over

1:29 This is just like today and everyone saying 'my truth'. No, there is only THE truth. You're entitled to your own opinion, not your own facts.

tons of youtube videos with people sneaking into Pripyat. check it out

'the reactor is now a nuclear bomb'. No it isn't. There was not a nuclear explosion in the manner of a nuclear weapon explosion.

@marcballard9428

2 жыл бұрын

What is a nuclear explosion? A nuclear reaction by definition? Nuclear power is created by controlling that reaction, the explosion was uncontrolled. A bomb is not a controlled reaction, it might be mathematically controlled and physically controlled by a detonator of some description but it had the same impact. It was a nuclear explosion! Don't try sugar coat it please. Nuclear deposits were distributed across a large distance that caused mass death, damage and harm. In any sane persons mind and logical explanation of a bomb...that's pretty much what it does.

@marcballard9428

2 жыл бұрын

And ps... he's saying in theory..it's a description so they can get the jist of it in their warped minds

@buddystewart2020

2 жыл бұрын

@@marcballard9428 ... You are wrong. Plain and simple.

As an 8 year old when this all happened on the far side of the world... it was a scary time. For everyone, everywhere. Decades latter... its once again a scary time, unfortunately the very people who faced Chernobyl all those years ago, have forgotten it and even try to ignore it or claim it never happened, russia is a screwed up place. The colors are the way those places actually look... russian interior design in those days was a few decades behind everyone else lol, still is.

We are now dangerously close to a repeat of this in the very same region of the world. Let's hope sanity prevails...

how many people are required to safely run, or shut down, a reactor? how many did we lose to covid? how close are we to a scenario where a plant doesn't have enough staff? how would the fallout from one plant affect others, especially in the states where they're so numerous?

and now russian soldiers have mined Zaporizhzhia, the biggest european nuclear power plant which has 6 reactors. Chernobyl was 1 defect reactor. Imagine what could happen with 6. People will never learn.

@robertgworek2497

2 жыл бұрын

I was thinking about that as well. Russia is a state of mind... madman mind.

@constanza86

2 жыл бұрын

More like Ukr regime is so sick that it will endanger whole Europe for their games. Russians have been in control of power plant since early March. And it is only now when Donbass is taken by Russian and separatist forces in close to its entirety and with vote's about the status of territories that are under Russian control, including Zaporozhye, that there is an issue with shelling of the plant. This is not the first time that sick bastards committed crime. Maybe you don't know this, but it is Ukrainians who attacked the train station in Kramatorsk. Evidence showed that the rocket was from a Ukrainian batch of Tocka-U system, Just two weeks ago POW camp at Yelenovka, with Ukraininan prisoners from Azovstal, has been destroyed by HIMARS. And let us not forget about the report of amnesty international stating, something that anyone that was willing to look for fact about this conflict knew from the beginning, that Ukrainian forces with their tactics deliberate endangering the civilian population.

Where do I go to vote for MORE commercials on all these channels I am subscribed to? 😤

@derrickowen8162

2 жыл бұрын

That's because the videos don't have sponsors. Now when there is an ad on sponsored videos, that's when KZread needs to get their crap together.

“Every lie we tell incurs a debt to the truth. Sooner or later that debt is paid” A few months later Covid hit, and spent time exploring that quote.

One of the most insane things about the explosion was that the lid of the reactor that was thrown up in the air like a coin, weighed more than 1000 tons!

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How does a RBMK reactor explode? Big, oppressive government is how ... :( 😞 😭😭😭😭

@michaelriddick7116

2 жыл бұрын

You should watch the episode of "River Monsters with Jeremy Wade" where he goes to Chernobyl to investigate legends/rumors of MONSTER sized cat fish living in the cooling ponds of Chernobyl. :) Amazing episode circa 2012ish :)

We need to try to build nuclear power plants away from large earthquake zones is about all I got to say..

I remember this happening when I was in High School. Want to know the truly scary thing? The remnants of Reactor 4 are starting to heat up again. That means a nuclear reaction is starting up by itself now.

And the most horrible fact of all is that the state that allowed all this to happen has not changed one bit.

@tommcewan7936

2 жыл бұрын

It has in some ways, but not in others; the crappy militaristic authoritarianism is back, but the socialist ideals are long gone. Putin may wish for the glory days of the old USSR, but he'd find himself severely frowned upon for having such bourgeois luxuries as private palaces and superyachts if it were to actually return.

Chernobyl is located in the Ukraine, a while back towards beginning of the war the Russians took control of it . Most of the workers and scientists were evacuated. But MANY volunteered to stay behind to monitor and control the site (knowing the Russian troops were VERY unlikely to have any nuclear physicists with them) . Chernobyl is in fact still burning today, you see (they stuck a concrete and steel hood over it).

@Killerpixel11

Жыл бұрын

It's no longer burning, but it is still somewhat hot. The New Safe Confinement was built over the existing (and, as is the case with all hastily built soviet shit, crumbling) sarcophagus so that the building and the reactor could be dismantled without spreading radioactive dust into the air.

@barisagalozu2287

Жыл бұрын

@@Hadrian9707 source?

Hobbit plsssssss

This episode is very... TV. The real Legasov was not at the trial. He still managed to piss off the party and was sent to obscurity similar to how the series depicts it, but by a prolonged effort to make the truth public within the USSR, rather than a single trial. Also Dyatlov is very much portrayed over the top. In interviews of the survivors (after the fall of the Soviet Union mind you) they generally described the real person as "harsh but fair" and if the people who had years and decades cut off of their life-span because of this man's mistakes, I believe them. Making him this pretty-much monster was done to make the series more dramatic, rather than realistic depiction, much like putting Legasov into the trial, when he was not there in reality. It is a phenomenally made series and surprisingly accurate for a drama series, but it is still a drama series first and not a documentary and thus does take the occasional liberty with historical accuracy. I recommend listening to the accompanying podcast by the production team of the series, where they point out many of the scenes they changed, in which way and why they did it.

I love how after people watch this series, they instantly think this is an anti-nuclear energy show. But in fact it's actually an anti-Socialist/Communist show.

@Diegesis

2 жыл бұрын

Idk if they think the show was trying to anti nuclear but the scariest thing in the show is the nuclear death so it scares them. I also don't think it's anti communist/socialist but is anti fascism/soviet union.

@purplegorilla9592

2 жыл бұрын

Neither of those things. The writing shines light on a horrific event in human history. It makes no political statements one way or the other. It details accurate events. They silenced the scientists or told them to revamp their statements. If anything, the writing presents an anti-statist societal theme in all forms. At no point does Craig Mazin suggest the world should adopt an anti-nuclear stance.

@mrfisher1072

2 жыл бұрын

@@Diegesis wait are you calling the Soviet Union fascist?

@Murdo2112

2 жыл бұрын

@@mrfisher1072 I think, when they said "fascism" they were probably thinking "totalitarianism" .

@mrfisher1072

2 жыл бұрын

@@Murdo2112 but that includes socialist and communist states also this event happens under Gorbachev the most liberal leader of the Soviet Union which wasn't considered totalitarian after Stalin's death.

Makes me wonder about the nuclear plant in Japan that ruptured during a hurricane?

@RugbyRoss12

2 жыл бұрын

The biggest ever recorded earthquake and tsunami in japan.. so not quite

@shag139

2 жыл бұрын

Wth are you talking about? Fukushima happened because morons put the backup generators in the basement where they were flooded by the tsunami from a 9.0 earthquake.

@justincase490

2 жыл бұрын

calling an earthquake that shook the entire earth off itś axle a hurricane is a bit of an understatement

@MaskHysteria

2 жыл бұрын

Don't forget the massive tsunami that washed away entire villages all across the northern and eastern coasts of Japan.

@derrickowen8162

2 жыл бұрын

@@justincase490 We all knew what event they were referring to.

If you read any works by Russian novelist Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, any perceived failure in the Soviet Union must have been caused by "saboteurs" who must be rooted out. Pointing out flaws in the system is an accusation against the authority of the "state" which is not allowed. In short, "we do not make mistakes."

@inquisitive6786

2 жыл бұрын

Sounds like usaricans today

@milo655321

2 жыл бұрын

No, not really.

@inquisitive6786

2 жыл бұрын

@@milo655321 They literally have a faction called Q that worries about “deep state”🤣

The main story is true.. But remember this is a show made its not a documentary .. The real problem here is the Russian way of saving money on high risk stuff .. Its still the safest and cleanest way for us to make energy witch kinda sux .. And when you think of it the rich western world is shutting down our own energy in order to meat Paris accord quotas to then buy it from the unsafe poor country's so we are pushing them to make more energy and pressuring their systems.. But this is one of the best shows I have seen in a long time .=)

@vaziralramin4565

2 жыл бұрын

Where did you take this Russian way from?🤣

Problem is not the nuclear power in general but this particular type of reactor... and Socialism / Communism that creates both such reactors and people like Dyatlov and his colleagues. I myself encountered such "philosophy" during my career.

I’d love to see your reaction to the movie Deepwater Horizon, starring Mark Wahlberg, Kurt Russell, John Malkovich, Dylan O’Brien, Gina Rodriguez and Kate Hudson.

Dang, you watched this all in one day? I hope you watched a comedy after.

I'm flabbergasted at how the takeaway from this series is taken as a direct comparison to anything being done in the West today and the reason why. As if 'anything for a dollar' attitudes have anything to do with it. On top of that, mentally floating over the statement within the trial that the reactors don't have the same issues. In a system like the Soviet union, quotas don't mean you lose a bonus or get fired. They mean you get sent to a work camp or shot for "wrecking' vis a vis 'intentionally sabotaging the productivity of the State.'. If you don't get it done, then your boss isn't getting it done, which means he gets asked why and has to find someone or something to blame or he gets shot or sent to a camp, and if it happens broadly enough, his boss gets shot or sent to a camp. If someone in the big state building says something is going to happen a certain way, no matter how much sense it makes, it is the job of everyone who is part of that job to make it happen, even if the result is broken or shitty. It doesn't matter because the thing the government said would happen, happened, and it makes the government look good. If you don't make the government look good, you get shot or sent to a camp.

1:00 its because they promoted party member yes men for important jobs, people willing to lie for political power were in charge instead of people who were the most qualified.

It's ironic, how that KGB officer who cares about serving this system as best as he can - and that mainly involves terrorizing people - is really his own country's worst enemy. True, Legasov eventually got his way. He killed himself to pull it off, but he did it. But what if he didn't? What if the KGB managed to hush thing out? The USSR was already ruined by one Chernobyl alone. Some other arrogant idiot would've done the same with another RBMK reactor. There would be another disaster, perhaps far worse than one at Chernobyl. Perhaps there would be no people like Scherbina and Legasov there to smooth things over. Millions would die. The USSR would be cut off from the world. The food from the USA that the USSR needed to survive would be cut off. The people would starve to death, including party officials. Russia would become a nuclear wasteland nobody cares about. That's the fate the KGB would bring about. The result of ignorant brutes thinking they can change laws of physics by putting a gun to scientist's head.

Yo that outfit tho 🤌

now you should see the Three Mile Island accident 1979 on Netflix, it's not as good as this miniseries but it was informative.

Please do not think that nuclear power plants are dangerous, that isn't the take away from this series. There are youtubers that explain it a lot better, so I will not try.

Think of how this prevents learning and knowledge. Spreading disinformation and covering up facts leaves your people lost and confused and ignorant. Eventually they receive the information and they have to accept the new information and forget what they previously learned and built knowledge around. It’s a mess.