California is offering drivers money to test its alternative to the gas tax
For decades, California has depended on taxes from gasoline and diesel to provide most of the money for road repairs, but as the state pivots more towards electric and hybrid vehicles, officials are trying to figure out how to replace that income. trib.al/ojb9iVI
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What A Bunch Of BS.
@AmericaFirst069
22 күн бұрын
No Crapfornia
The streets are pure garbage! What money is spent on roads? I don’t get this
Tax for miles drivers? Driving is supposed to allow you the freedom to escape. Hope someone take this straight to the Supreme Court
@BakoSooner
22 күн бұрын
And just who do you suppose should pay for those roads you drive on? Your 'freedom to escape' on a public road isn't free.
@760desertrydersoffroad3
16 күн бұрын
@@BakoSoonerthat's why we already pay enough taxes
@wahstomper
11 күн бұрын
Driving is a privilege not a right
@erichchan3
5 күн бұрын
@@BakoSooner You assume that the CA government which we know has been negligent for years is telling you that they need more money so they post this BS statistic saying that EVs have been taking over and that there are not enough funds. Sorry but when I look out at the roads I still don't see enough EVs that would actually make this huge of a dent and shortfall that they are claiming to the road budget. Keep the politicians and the companies honest and have them make due with the current funds we got. This is not an EV issue....its a scapegoat for their mismanagement of funds.
@MainADMlN
2 күн бұрын
@@BakoSooner You mean on the piece of crap of roads full of potholes?
Reduce politician salaries.
@dond5870
5 күн бұрын
And reduce state employees by 10%. The state still functions as normal.
Dont yall get taxed enough already!
@raymathews7035
22 күн бұрын
We sure are. And mr governor says he is going to have to cut the state budget, they don't have any money 😡sure they don't, it's in his pocket 😡😡..
Once again California finds a way to Stick It-To-U in tax's
Commiefornia
more Tax money that will not be accounted for???
Haha, asking people to voluntarily gas tax themselves for a gift card.
DISGUSTING.
Dude I’m barely making it with all the current taxes. You take 33% of my paycheck, charge me $2.50 per gallon of gas tax, charge me property tax, sales tax on EVERYTHING I BUY, $350 a year just to register my car, $1600 for insurance every 6 months and now you wanna add more taxes! Wtf. How am I supposed to live here if you keep increasing taxes again and again.
@yamamancha
9 күн бұрын
Personally, I left Chicago. Then, I left New York. Maybe there's no escaping the crazy, but those places are leading the march to collapse. What makes you stay in California?
Cut pensions
What a scam, clearly Caltrans has not been utilizing the gas tax to fix the roads. Just another tax plus equity will be tied in.
No longer Democrat. Ridiculous.
@760desertrydersoffroad3
16 күн бұрын
Same here.
@conqueringlion420
Күн бұрын
Oh the ev liberal dem nerds want to recall him now huh 🤡
I will never own an electric vehicle.
@SaraH-ph4qm
22 күн бұрын
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@mr.originaloneniceguy
19 күн бұрын
I Love My Tesla
@SaraH-ph4qm
19 күн бұрын
@@mr.originaloneniceguy as do I.
Politicians in California cannot budget for the life of them. The ones who suffers from their careless spending sre the people.
@rinnesasori5602
8 күн бұрын
People dont care theyll still vote to keep them in office
Wait… if someone is still using an ICE car then wouldn’t this taxpayer be double paying? Tax by vehicle weight makes sense.
$0.30 per mile... LOL, that's a lot.
What if most of my driving is out of state? Yall makes no sense.
we pay 3 bucks per gallon on tax now this on top cuz they won't remove it and what about all the simi trucks from out of state
Gift cards??? wtf
Should be based on vehicle weight. There's no way my 2000 lb car is causing as much wear as a 5000 lb land-yacht.
@user-qr7ee2cp4y
22 күн бұрын
So we're taxing truckers the most? So you're OK with the cost of your stuff that they haul to go up in price?
@Tokamak3.1415
22 күн бұрын
If you drive 3x as much as the 5000 lb land yacht you are in fact causing more wear. My minivan only moves for family functions when 5-8 people are loaded into it - less than 1k miles a year. Those people driving huge 8 passenger SUVs on their commute to work already pay more when they have to fill 25-40 gallon tanks instead of a small 14 gal tank. CA just looking for ways to keep feeding the tax beast despite more and more people working part/full time from home.
@huangGQ
21 күн бұрын
@@Tokamak3.1415Cool story, bro. I can also pull figures out of thin air. It would actually require me to drive 10x as much to cause the same amount of wear as a 5000 lb vehicle.
@Tokamak3.1415
21 күн бұрын
@@huangGQ Sigh. One of us has a doctorate in applied materials engineering and understands material deformations without the need to conjure numbers. I'd be happy to post the math on tarmac/asphalt deformation wear for a $1000 wager to show how errant your statement is. If you can explain to me what my username "tokamak3.141592 means I'll also concede. Somehow I got a feeling you don't work at CERN. What say you?
@illx2367
6 күн бұрын
@@Tokamak3.1415dude seriously do your own math. If you haul 8 passengers that more than likely weight over 100 pounds in America that's being generous.. and you have 40 gallons of gas that alone weighs 240 lbs with the "800" obviously over 1000 lbs with your passengers with your car and the 5k land rover you are closer to 7k pounds on the road vs a 4 door car that's about 3,800 lbs on the road full tank and full car. What do you think is doing more damage....
Don't do it...... Sounds all good, but there is probably more to this.
@brad4058
9 күн бұрын
Where in the world does getting taxed by the mile sound any better than being taxed by the gallons? You get more miles to the gallon if you drive slow enough or if your car is fuel efficient. Being taxed by the miles is just cutting out any kind of fuel efficiency and making it pointless because you're now being taxed on how long of a distance you drive per day. It is completely worse than what we have now. Also, they might entice you with a low tax rate for the first few years so people don't complain and we get used to it and then they'll raise the taxes or add more to it as they always do like they did for the gas tax.
No no noooo
This has nothing to do with EVs....this is just years and years of mismangement of funds. Adding any taxes is an excuse for the incompetency of the CA state government on how it handles its funds. Do we really thing proposing such a high tax will benefit everyone? No it just gives the corporations more money to waste and not fix roads. 30 cents a mile is ridiculous. A 300 mile "tank" would cost you $90. Noooo it doesn't cost that much to repair roads when you have hundreds of thousands of cars that have to use that same road everyday and extrapolate that with each car paying 30 cents.
I wonder how expensive this will be for Uber drivers
Why would they even choose to participate in the pilot program?
@defman85
6 күн бұрын
Because they are sheep or commies.
Just wait until there's mandatory autonomous vehicles.
This will be like temporary bridge maintenance in the Bay Area. Became permanent and fees went sky high for bridge tolls. Bunch of BS.
I don't live in Cali or have an electric car & this is still piss me off
Hahaha the same people they vote for the same people who take their money 🤡
Californias roads destoryed my suspension. In " AMERICAS FINEST CITY" 😂
I'll say it.. if you tax 30 million drivers alone they get around 158 billion, 8 billion for our roads and etc... where the 150 billion go?
Newsom needs your money for his new yacht and vacations
🖕 another scam wow
Now California is taxing electric vehicles 😆
Guess they don't want "the poors" to be able to drive, so they are gonna price them out of it. And they say they care about poor people....sure...
Not intrested..Love my gas powered vehicle. Bet I can go further than one of your fancy electric go carts😁😆😆😆...
@CM-st2pb
21 күн бұрын
Gas powered is better but $5/gallon in California means solar makes a lot more sense to power your AC and EV (if feasible individually). Doesn't make as much sense in places where gas is around $3/gallon for sure
@JJFlores197
20 күн бұрын
@@CM-st2pb But how much would going solar cost? I mean a lot of people in California (and elsewhere) are struggling as is. Going into even more debt for solar does not sound appealing at all.
States are not granted the right to tax the exercise of a fundamental right to travel or the mode of travel. It is repugnant to the Constitution and undermines the nation. U.S. Supreme Court ruled in Crandall vs NV..so no authority to tax or burden a Constitutional right. Court back then said oh today a $1 and tomorrow $1000 ..they shut the door..States can not tax a Constitutional right.. period
Road charge should only apply to EV users.. Gas cars still paying the dam taxes.
paying a flat rate per mile causes an implicit subsidy between light and heavy vehicles (wear to infrastructure increases exponentially with weight)
@drivingforcebehindu
9 күн бұрын
It's not a flat rate. It'll take into consideration a number of things. Including weight and fuel economy. Besides , to fuel a diesel semi truck owners pay taxes at the pump. Also have IFTA and their registration is 2 grand per year not 200. One way or another, government will get their $$
Offer it to the rideshare group doesn’t matter which one if you really want an answer on what you’re testing
@CM-st2pb
20 күн бұрын
Rideshare will not do this because you have to pay fees per mile in exchange for a gift card. Their earnings would be destroyed
Just charge based off odometer readings at each safety inspection interval. EVs need to pay road use taxes somehow... Texas went with a flat $200/year fee which is unfair.
@JJFlores197
20 күн бұрын
There are no vehicle safety inspections in California
Taxifornia
What is there to test? A fair and equitable way around this is to have everyone pay based on their usage of public services. This includes roads. Therefore, taxing by mile seems free. Hey EV owners, time to pay the piper.
Hahahaha... Gotta love California and the clown car running that state. Enjoy those liberal policies folks. They really seem to be working out for ya😅
Raise the gas tax until EVs really take off..
@erichchan3
5 күн бұрын
Agreed