36: Plays within structure - how it was designed. 14: Plays out structure - results: 8 first down conversions, 2 sacks, 1 fumble. 27/35, 312 yards, 3 passing TD, 1 rushing TD - Washington finished 14-1 After watching 37 of his games, I can confirm: 1. He prefers playing on-script. He is more than proficient when he can't. 2. He finished with a higher completion percentage and passer rating in every year he played. 3. There is one bad Notre Dame game but 35 that look more similar to this.

@stixs2099

2 ай бұрын

He’s a extremely talented competitor

@SVdreamin

Ай бұрын

Love to hear this as a Bears fan

@fantasypolice

Ай бұрын

@@SVdreamin great moves by your front office and send Xmas gifts to the Panthers

He is running for his life on very play.

@dougg2012

2 ай бұрын

But he’s running to throw, not running to run.

@anon21341

Ай бұрын

his OL was trash

All I wish is that he threw a little bit more quick hits, but USC's WR's lack of separation made it difficult on some of his easier reads.

Caleb literally carried them so hard this entire season but ESPECIALLY in this game, Look at how pro ready he is compared to everyone else on the field.

@stingzen82

4 ай бұрын

Looks like he can't read the defense. He's not pro ready. So many open recievers and he decides to run around and make big plays. He's a high risk high reward.

@ikari_02

4 ай бұрын

@@stingzen82did you even watch the game, he had to “run around and make plays” cause there were 2 defenders immediately in his face almost everytime he dropped back. This oline couldn’t block for shit

@davidwillis8623

4 ай бұрын

@@ikari_02that’s the NFL though, he will have pressure about every down, particularly with whoever he is taken by that high in the draft. If he goes to the Bears he’ll run for his life similar to Fields now

@Noname-fv5sx

2 ай бұрын

@@davidwillis8623 except he can run around and throw justin just runs around lol.

@fantasypolice

2 ай бұрын

Caleb's real stats 👇 Within structure: 36 plays (how it was designed) Out of structure: 14 plays (results: 8 first down conversions, 2 sacks, 1 fumble) 27/35, 312 yards, 3 passing TD, 1 rushing TD Washington finished 14-1 Yes, he plays within structure often. Yes, he prefers it. Yes, he plays off-script when he's forced to. Yes, he is proficient at it. Yes, he finished with a higher completion percentage and passer rating in every year he played. If people want to focus on the ND game, it's fair to do this exercise, and the 35 others that look similar. Feel free to contribute less moving forward@@stingzen82

The mobility outside the tackle box in this game was great. Couple good anticipation throws. Some mistakes with the most notable ones coming on not taking yards on short throws opting instead to stay active in the pocket, testing his legs. Pretty impressive overall.

As a Chicago Bears fan. I think this is a pretty good game to evaluate Caleb Williams and really compare to what we already have in Fields. Caleb has a little bit more awareness in the pocket and he's elusive with a purpose. He does have a little bit of that Mahomes ability to extend or stick to a play even while running for his life. BUT I seen a lot of him putting the ball on the turf too. And when the pocket collapsed he had troubles just like any other QB would. Caleb might be the most pro ready QB in this draft but he'll still have the growing pains of learning what you can and can't get away with at the NFL level. That'll be tough to go through after witnessing the progress Fields had made. Now bring in context and put Caleb behind that Chicago OL with that receiving core that dropped tons of balls would Caleb have faired any better than Fields did? When given time in the pocket Fields have shown to be an Elite Dual Threat QB.

@masonpawelko5763

3 ай бұрын

Fields has not shown to be elite. He is a very below average passer, and u can’t win championships with a run first qb in the nfl in this era

@fantasypolice

2 ай бұрын

As not a Chicago Bears fan, but a believer of Justin Fields, and a guy who watches far too much college football, I say to you this: Congratulations. Caleb will be like something you've never seen.

@stixs2099

2 ай бұрын

@@fantasypoliceokay so me in you is on the same I have been evaluating Caleb Williams way to much all the way back to his freshman year he is a generational talent his team sucked last year and if the bears pick they found there franchise qb 😂

@fantasypolice

2 ай бұрын

@@stixs2099 absolutely. Freshman Red River Rivalry game, he replaced Spencer Rattler, who was projected to be the 1st overall draft selection the following year, and willed his team to a victory. Since then, his teams got worse but his completion % and QBR improved every year.

@stixs2099

2 ай бұрын

@@fantasypolice I guess people want a rookie qb to be perfect which has never happened before idk why he gets so much hate

7:27 ankles!!! 😮 the guy flipped over lmao

Like, If you’re a bears fan who’s here trying to see the hype!

@josesolis3400

3 ай бұрын

i mean he’s doing this against the team that was in the Championship 🤔 maybe he’s not bad?

There is so much of Russell Wilson in him, and I mean that for good and for ill. He's a brilliant improvisor, but I need to watch more, see more of him succeeding in structure and throwing with anticipation. He seems really "see-it-throw-it". He's going to drive people crazy, fans of his team and fans of other teams.

@davidwillis8623

4 ай бұрын

I think he’s more quick and elusive that Russell with less high end accuracy and decision making, a very aggressive passer who tends to hold on to it too long vs. pressure and doesn’t keep two hands on the ball causing strip sacks. Reminds me of more of a Fran Tarkenton

@Dubberzz

3 ай бұрын

Watch his Oklahoma games. Lots of in structure and in pocket work. I think there is so much off script stuff at USC, because of protection issues.

@benpeterson4673

3 ай бұрын

@@Dubberzz There's a lot more structure in his games from 2022. Makes me wonder what the coaching was like this year.

@Dubberzz

3 ай бұрын

@@benpeterson4673 Ironically the only thing that changed was Kingsbury. Lol.

@benpeterson4673

3 ай бұрын

@@Dubberzz I know. That's why I'm glad the Seahawks didn't hire him as an OC. The dude made me doubt a QB this talented. I just hope he didn't actually ruin him.

Every one of those rpo’s that ended up being passes would have been illegal man down field and I’ve never seen so many screens in my life. Sometimes he looked great in the pocket and sometimes he bailed early. Interesting game to watch

@philosophy20

3 ай бұрын

Yea, feel the same way

6:29 this play to me makes me realize why he’s considered a generational talent. I don’t think he quite is but the the ability to make that throw and the sheer amount of balls it takes to attempt it is amazing

All the talent in the world. Just needs to go to the right team

Everything seems to be RPO, back shoulder or a scramble heave. Not a lot of slants to deep ins and other NFL routes. Corner routes?

This game goes to show you that a great QB can do a lot of things, except play defense.

This kid has talent, nobody can deny that. I’ve seen too many times him staring down one target then he gets sacked or has to evade pressure while still only looking one way. Then there’s times where he escapes the pressure and has a guy open but runs instead. Also the most glaring thing I’ve seen which ties into the one read stuff is the fact that he’s not great at throwing to his check down. It seems like it’s either the one read, scramble and throw it up in hopes that his WR will make a play or scramble then try to make something happen with his feet. No check down, no processing the field, barely throws the ball away when pressured, never scrambles through the middle it’s always the long way which is going back then around the line. I’m not doubting the talent but the intangibles are worrisome and with the fact that he transferred schools in order to stay with his coach shows me might struggle with no coaches/OCs if and when they get fired and new ones get hired. The team that is best fit for him is Washington because his familiarity with Kliff Kingsbury so he won’t have to worry about learning a completely new offence.

@mr.nobody9697

2 ай бұрын

What a load of bullshit.

@fantasypolice

2 ай бұрын

@@mr.nobody9697 We know one thing is true. He spent more time writing that than watching the video (because he didn't).

Very interesting. Completely different player than Maye. No blocking whatsoever from line though. Is USC running an offense or just snap ball and everyone run around 😮

@c_h6

4 ай бұрын

His offensive line is ass

@fantasypolice

2 ай бұрын

Ironic thing is that this was one of their offensive line's best performances.

love how people try to take caleb down but he has games like these and his defense gives up 52. totally his fault lol.

Every throw he makes give me an orgasm, he's so fucking fluid he effortlessly throws 40-50 yards

@tonyrobinson8050

4 ай бұрын

Gives you an orgasm?...TMI dude

bears fans watch this and cry over him possibly playing for Chicago

Take out all of the off-schedule throws, the quick hitters, and the trick plays. Just watch him play from the pocket within the structure of the offense.

4:15 might be my favorite play of all time

16 screens/RPOs. Wow. He did look good despite missing some throws. One of his best games at getting passes out quickly but he got stuck on his first read often

@J_P_B

3 ай бұрын

The thing is bro, positive things happen more often than not. Not everything needs to be perfect. It's a backyard game style. It's meant to be weird and looked at sideways. The dude makes it happen end of story. What do nfl teams need? A pocket passer that's super accurate....no. they need a football player. A GAME CHANGER. Dude will thrive in the NFL.

@windycityflier23

3 ай бұрын

@@J_P_B decent point. He’s very talented but did he make it happen? Certainly didn’t in the 4th. mostly kidding they did put up 42 but there is something to be said about clutch performance and he just missed throws. It’s basically big play or screen/RPO. He doesn’t throw intermediate routes which is either he doesn’t have the ability to go through his reads or the system doesn’t ask it of him. That said, baker and Kyler did

@fantasypolice

2 ай бұрын

@@J_P_B" It's meant to be weird and looked at sideways." Interesting, unique perspective with a lot of substance. One thing that is important to note is that he's a damn good pocket passer. It would be a noticeable highlight of his game if he had more time.

@fantasypolice

2 ай бұрын

@@windycityflier23 5:21 - to give you an idea of what Caleb is dealing with. I've watched all 37 of his games. You are correct, it's a heavy RPO offense, Lincoln gives more freedom to operate with the more confidence he has in the player. When the down and distance gets lengthy, you're looking at screens and long-developing route concepts. Lincoln banks on Caleb to execute them, and it works in his favor more often than not. It's why they led the nation in offense over the last two seasons collectively. The defense is the literal opposite.

@windycityflier23

2 ай бұрын

@@fantasypolice that’s what holding the ball and taking sacks does. Lloyd had 7.1 ypc so it wasn’t a lack of rushing efficiency. He has issues playing within the scheme. He misses a lot of the quick routes. The only non-broken play or RPO/screen plays he really has are quick hitches vs soft coverage. Don’t get me wrong, I think he’s really talented, I just think sitting a year would be vital for a player like him who needs to adjust or go to a really solid team

Wow. Watching this highlight of the game, they definitely would have won if they had quality WRs… an O-line that could block & not hold…. Oh and a defense 🥴

His only mistake was at 9:01. There was some minor others but this one is the only bad one

Justin Fields can’t read defenses. Caleb Williams can. Ask the Packers defense

Welcome to the Chicago Bears 🐻⬇️

@rbu2136

4 ай бұрын

Guy is an escape artist. Looks raw in a lot of ways. But really good in others.

He is not Mahomes. He is Russell Wilson.

Wow Caleb being of the bald type really went all out for toothless

Receivers got hella drops and giving up on plays… they shoulda replaced addison and didnt and upgraded the line

He's really good. This offense doesn't do him any favors.

BEAR DOWN

Nothing Justin Fields does not do😅😅

can he step up in a tight pocket and make those throws. you can improvise on every play .

@fantasypolice

2 ай бұрын

5:21

🐻⬇️

Caleb Williams fumbled 31 times in 34 starts. There was one fumble in this game. Guess who it was....

Just a reminder yall are not coaches, if he cant read defenses he would not be playing, he wasnt accurate because he was pressured, stick to madden please… he got shit to fix but hes pro ready other than penix, yall just come on here to talk

This guy makes sense for a team like Washington to draft. I know his o line isn’t the best but neither is the bears… I’m not seeing where his elite pocket ability makes him a clear and better thrower over fields. We have the ability to gather so much draft capital. He may have a higher ceiling than fields but I’m not seeing this as an immediate upgrade. The bears are no longer in rebuild mode as of next year. Big contracts and jobs hang in the balance. As a franchise is just make sense to get as much for the #1 pick as possible.

@fantasypolice

2 ай бұрын

5:21 - and I'm a big Fields fan

Bro just not reading defenses😂 he just want to scramble every play

Bears

Are people watching the same thing as me? He did a great job of evading pressure but also It was half screens, he missed a ton of throws, and his deep ball accuracy was not good.

@georgemitchell1705

4 ай бұрын

I wonder the same thing. People just watching highlights or listening to sports journalist.

@jackjaskowiak

4 ай бұрын

Washington was in the national championship game. USC had the one of the worst ranked defenses. They also don’t have any 1st round talent besides Williams’s and branch on offense. Caleb literally threw a guy open twice for a td and anticipated a throw. When has justin ever done that

@jackjaskowiak

4 ай бұрын

@@THERICE62 and what do bears fans blame Justins lack of success on? His weapons? Look at stroud balling. Look at mahomes with basically just kelce. Justin can’t process quick enough. Want to talk about fumbles, I think he has 38. One for every game he’s played. Can’t get hooked on justin’s highlight plays. He has talent but will never be an elite, consistent passer.

@jackjaskowiak

4 ай бұрын

@@THERICE62 it’s okay to root for fields. Not okay to root for mediocrity of a team. This #1 pick is a layup

@scottdpeterstv

4 ай бұрын

He does make quick reads on plays JF1 would just eat a sack with. Maybe a version of Justin with a little faster processing time. I don't know. It's tough because I see points for both sides.

Baby Mahomes

Besides those scrambling throws to the sidelines where the defense gave up their leverage, (ask Mitch Trubisky if NFL defenses do that), he was inaccurate on ~4 of 11 on throws deeper than 5 yds from the LOS. Tons of YAC piggybacking him down the field and padding his stats. In clutch (2min and for the lead) situations he bottled up and lost his pocket presence. Careless fumble right before HT. Most of his anticipation throws were "Go get it my guy" throws that you'll soon think twice about if you're not throwing to a healthy AJ Brown every play. He's a younger, slower and smaller Justin Fields. His quicker release doesn't mean as much as one might think as playoff caliber defenses in the NFL froth over checkdown Charlies. WTH is wrong with the Bears fanbase???!!!

@NYG5

4 ай бұрын

They think beating up on college players guarantees the player will be god in the nfl

@KingofeverythingChicagoBears

4 ай бұрын

Bro I've been a BEAR for 40 yrs this shit will not translate in the NFL

@NeumaSeven

4 ай бұрын

Those two TD Passes were beautiful, 1st one he read that the DB' had his back to the ball and made great pass and the second pass was a great back shoulder throw. Seen Rodgers and Mahomes make both kind of TD passes over and over again in games where they also missed throws. What's your point? Caleb had 3 TDS and one Rushing TD against a team that made it to the championship game with a not so good supporting cast. What are you talking about?

@jorgearellano723

3 ай бұрын

​@NeumaSeven Caleb Williams folded the second half of the season. Once he started playing better defenses (and thats Pac 12 defenses) he wasn't doing as well. A lot of his plays are off script, he doesn't have many plays where he's operating the play on schedule. It's like watching Johnny Manziel all over again, with a little shade of Baker Mayfield. No thanks. I'd rather take Jayden Daniels.

@NeumaSeven

3 ай бұрын

@@jorgearellano723 You can’t just say Williams is like Manziel because they both make plays off script. I also thought he was mostly off script and then I actually watched tape on Caleb and saw that it was a good mix of on schedule throws and off schedule stuff. Also Caleb doesn’t party like Manziel and has actua work ethic and cares about winning. Bad take.

Not impressed

But Mike Penix Jr won. That’s the difference

I'll say it, penix is better than williams. I'd still take williams because of the potential, but if you go watch penix in the same game he is so far ahead of caleb in so many areas. Such as processing progressions footwork mechanics. I love caleb, I think he's the top qb in the draft. But he is not a sure thing. Don't be shocked if penix is a better pro than caleb.

@fantasypolice

2 ай бұрын

Do you really feel that way though? I can give you an objective anecdote. I'm in a group chat with a bunch of Bronco homers. They were super-excited to watch this game live and catch a glimpse of their potential future, Michael Penix Jr. They were left feeling that there are levels to this game. It made them realize the discrepancy in value between the #1 selection and a mid round first. Since that point, they moved onto JJ McCarthy. And I am a huge fan of Michael.

@isaacperry8195

2 ай бұрын

I do. I'll clarify though, I think he's better right now. As in he's pro ready. I still caleb will be better. I'm higher on penix than most though. I have him as the number 2 qb in the draft with caleb being 1 of course.

@fantasypolice

2 ай бұрын

@@isaacperry8195 if Penix falls to the second, someone's going to get major value. Issue is, Penix needs to start immediately, as you alluded to, he's ready. He's old and has enough experience, just needs to play at the next level. Sitting a year or three isn't always a bad thing but I fear he'd lose any stream he's had going for him. Best case is a Kenny Pickett type late first round selection. He's far more talented.

@isaacperry8195

2 ай бұрын

100% agree. I wish my cowboys would dump dak and take him.

@Splashblaylock

Ай бұрын

Bears fan here, I DO NOT want to see Penix in Minnesota, think him and Nix will end up being better than Maye, Jaden & JJ … can’t stand his caveman throwing motion though, but he gets it there quick

Mahomes improvising with Zack Wilson’s. Ability to read a defense nothing he is doing will translate tot he nfl if you told me he watched zero film I would believe you you can only count a few times a game where you stands in the pocket and makes a throw

@zacharymercier-busque1837

5 ай бұрын

yeah sure... one of the worst oline and wr grop in the country. The guy puts amazing stats, but yeah he's trash!

@itisnottaken4444

5 ай бұрын

You know who doesn’t say he watched zero film His coaches His teammates Literally anybody but you. And you mention he can’t make throws form the pocket when he literally makes throws from the pocket in this game. He only breaks structure when he gets pressured which was a lot due to poor o line play.

@httrprod

5 ай бұрын

@@itisnottaken4444none of these dudes know football man 😂 just let em find out for themselves eventually Caleb gonna be shutting them up real soon

@VicInNocal

4 ай бұрын

​@@httrprodI know man, I love how every dipshit on the internet is a football scout now. It's all because there is no price to pay for their shitty little predictions ending up wrong. I say that if you claim Caleb is going to be a bum but then he goes out and is balling for 300yds a game and is NFL Rookie of the Year, you shouldn't be allowed to post on KZread for one year.

@fullofmuscledownunde

4 ай бұрын

All the NFL like throws I saw were dropped lol. This dudes an elite player and will be insanely good

Penix will go higher in the draft.

@kmoney8201

4 ай бұрын

Other than the deep ball he does nothing better than caleb and even deep ball accuracy is overrated

@davidwillis8623

4 ай бұрын

Should but won’t due to hype. Penix is more of a legitimate pocket passer that can win at all levels of the defense, those injuries forced Penix to learn how to play QB and win consistently from the pocket rather than relying on his legs.

@kmoney8201

4 ай бұрын

@davidwillis8623 lmao casual he's just a bigger tua. He's accuracy and decision making under pressure is terrible and he can't throw outside of the pocket

@davidwillis8623

4 ай бұрын

@@kmoney8201 Penix will be going to a better team due to being drafted much lower, hopefully his OL is better so he can thrive

@davidwillis8623

4 ай бұрын

@@kmoney8201 and lmao I’m a “casual” but I saw CJ Stroud coming based off my film study last year 🙄

This guy frustrates me. Is he talented enough to play in the NFL? Absolutely. Is he the next Patrick Mahomes? No. I don't like his attitude. Patrick Mahomes does what he can do because he is smart, dedicated and has an ungodly level of physical ability. And even he has throws and games he wishes he had back. This guy won't succeed if things stay the way they are now. He is not a generational talent. You know, the one that comes along every year. There are no lazy all time greats. Except maybe Brett.

@itisnottaken4444

5 ай бұрын

Did you watch Mahomes in college? He was making most of those decisions and plays you mentioned. You’re comparing Mahomes now to Williams instead of watching Mahomes film from his time at Tech

@MrBIGDRE74

5 ай бұрын

Shut up.

@tylerwilliams1784

5 ай бұрын

comapring a college qb to the best QB in the NFL isn't fair, because theirs no way your comparing him to college mahomes right??

@laserhawk221

5 ай бұрын

@@itisnottaken4444 mahomes sat for a years though and learned how to play and got into a situation with great weapons and a offensive head coach who could help his creativity. Situation mattters. if caleb goes to the bears then i dont think he will develop into a mahomes type player, its more likely he just loses all his confidence like zach wilson

@theman8034

5 ай бұрын

Lazy? You don’t know him lol

Penix Jr. is the better QB.