Calafiori Coming In? | Raya Confirmed ! | Rice Criticism & Saka Role? | The Fourever Arsenal Podcast
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📖 CHAPTERS:
0:00 Intro
1:45 Calafiori Coming In?
20:11 Raya Confirmed, What Happes With Ramsdale?
33:24 England Through To Quarter Finals!
41:42 Declan Rice Criticism...
54:17 Saka Role Change?
1:03:42 Comments Of The Week
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The guy on the top right is clueless lol.
@Mago_7
19 күн бұрын
Folks like this peeve me off. Trying to sound politically correct but can't Crack it
All banter aside Jordan's football knowledge is actually shocking and embarrassing
@rahatmartinchoudhury1408
20 күн бұрын
How ?
@Aaron-ih8mt
20 күн бұрын
You know it's bad when an American is roasting someone for their football knowledge
@laGroovista
20 күн бұрын
Right 😂😂@@Aaron-ih8mt
@Sm0keyX5
20 күн бұрын
yeah he should get replaced asap.
@HazemK11
20 күн бұрын
@@rahatmartinchoudhury1408first off he doesn’t watch like half of the games. He even misses some Arsenal games
Jordan’s ball knowledge is ….
@Ace-7AFC
19 күн бұрын
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@Mago_7
19 күн бұрын
Glad you see it my guy. Haye people like this. Talks a big game but when you deep it it's actually nonsense and ill-informed
Hes an upgrade on both Kiwior and Zinny and is quality backup or competition for Gabriel i dont get why people are confused
@sloht4061
20 күн бұрын
Neither do I. I'm now hoping that Timber plays at the 8 with Rice in the 6. timber as the box to box, rice as the sweeping 6, Cala at LB, Saliba,Gabriel and White. Odegaard in the right 8. Saka, Martinelli and Havertz. Easy peazy
@LPVW04
20 күн бұрын
I think it’s more the fact we’ve all thought 200 million is the budget now we’re going to spend 70 million on Raya and Calafiori and we still need a midfielder, right winger and striker but I understand it more with the argument of we can try concede 10 less where as scoring 10 more will be difficult
@glblock6236
20 күн бұрын
@@sloht4061 timber aint playing box to box my guy the guy has played cb majority of his time at ajax , hes most likely to be competition for ben white and backup for saliba , if he plays in midfield hes playing in dm
@glblock6236
20 күн бұрын
@@LPVW04 we have 130 million left plus were gonna sell a lot of players , with calafiori coming kiwor or zinny is getting sold also eddie , smith rowe , nelson , ramsdale etc relax my guy we still have plenty of money to spend
@awonkemsutu3866
20 күн бұрын
@@LPVW04who knows what the budget will be or what sales will be because sales could be a factor. Arsenal can't just pay stupid money for any ordinary CF like have yall seen how bad the market is?? People saying get Isak as if that won't blow the whole supposed budget and nobody out there on his level that's attainable. The Euros have had shocking level of Strikers so did Afcon. Copa don't have any elite standouts. Fans must be realistic
Jordan talking down on Calafiori for "ohh the other guy i cant remember his name"
@apt9238
19 күн бұрын
Who was he talking about?
@kurt9034
19 күн бұрын
@@apt9238 he doesn't know he just wanted to be negative and tried to come up with "someone's else" to be positive about but his lack of ball knowledge failed him... Again.
@MrGoonerdv
19 күн бұрын
That was it for me😂😂
Jordan doesn't think there will be a lot of signings this summer, so expect a lot of signings this summer
@sloht4061
20 күн бұрын
I already know. Cala is first. We'll get a player who can play LW and RW, interchanging with Saka or Martinelli depending on the game management. Striker (hoping for Gyokores but know it will be a young player like Adeyemi or Tel) and a rotation option for Rice. If there's no good DM options to rotate atm, put Timber as Rice's rotation and bring in a left 8. Kimmich for me would be perfect. He's experienced, a leader and can play RB if anything happens to White/Tomiyasu and we always have Ethan to come in for games.
@Paulinhox88
20 күн бұрын
You could have ended that sentence after the first 3 words
@corybrown416
20 күн бұрын
@@Paulinhox88😂
@ArsenalChad
19 күн бұрын
@@Paulinhox88 bro chill 💀
Im suprised so many people are saying Left back is not a priority. For me it was our main weakness especially with the injuries. Teams couldnt get down White and Salibas side so they would attack zinny/kiwior and get joy time and time again. Those cross diagonals did us so many times. Calafiori fixes that major issue at Left back and provides cover if needed at cb.
@royzack2047
20 күн бұрын
Yea. Hopefully so. This California boy is so freaking tall. Would do well at LB n LCB also.
@wawitter11
19 күн бұрын
Everyone is fixated with the names on the shirts rather than the profile player for a position. If the players technical and physical abilities fit a position often times it works. They have to build partnerships on their sides of the pitch. Why are we so obsessed with big money signings?
@robhans5
19 күн бұрын
We dont have midfield. Outside of Rice and Odegard and who else?
@virupakshawalla5734
18 күн бұрын
His injury record is a worry. Happy to accept Arteta knows what he wants but its not just very serious knee injury at 16 he has had multiple muscle injuries.
If Declan rice had the pass jordan wants him to have he is literally the best DM of all time
These lot don't understand how important Raya's cross claiming ability is. We are solid defensively through the middle so teams always go on the outside and cross the ball. Having a keeper that cna just catch everything is a huge advantage.
Nothing wrong with strengthening the back line we where lucky we didn't lose saliba or Gabriel to injury
@mzakaria10
20 күн бұрын
You e got White, Timber, Kwior, and Tomiyasu that can fill in. Getting another CB now is strengthing a weakness that doesn't exist - a LB, CM, RW and ST are higher priority.
@Lu_14_05
20 күн бұрын
@@mzakaria10 calafiori is a lb
@MerilP71
19 күн бұрын
Well said!!! 👏 👍 😮
@gilforddavis6389
19 күн бұрын
@mzakaria10 you do know that caliofiori has played left back MORE than he's played CB?
I love when Jordan makes up budget that he's not aware of tangibly.
@Paulinhox88
20 күн бұрын
That’s what clueless people do
I say this every episode, Jordan says SO MUCH without saying ANYTHING AT ALL "I don't know if Raya is a Premier league winning goalkeeper. He might be, but I don't know if he is" ???????
@kevinb9830
20 күн бұрын
the black David Brent
@Ace-7AFC
19 күн бұрын
Proper waffler he is
@Baldur452
19 күн бұрын
Does Raya have THAT PASS?
Why is our fanbases first thought is "who will he replace?" Its a squad game. Let's have quality everywhere. Same with when we want another winger, it's called "A back up for Saka" NO, the player should challenge Saka. Otherwise, what's the point of bringing in players. If you want a backup, just use Academy players. Rant over. 😂
@theodale6805
20 күн бұрын
Agreed in principle, but it is a bit silly to spend loads on a player when you have another good one there. More sense to strengthen where you are weaker?
@shanemulvey4065
19 күн бұрын
@theodale6805 no. You get the best players available. For example if you could buy Vinny Jnr would you not because we have another good player in that position? I've been following this club over 30 years and this is the first time in my memory we've moved like a proper club.
@gilforddavis6389
19 күн бұрын
@@theodale6805and we're strong at LB? Do you know he's played LB MORE than he's played CB?
@virupakshawalla5734
18 күн бұрын
Balanced squad. 5 potential left backs aint Balanced when you need a midfielder or 2 and an attacking player
@theodale6805
17 күн бұрын
@@gilforddavis6389 Ben white played CB and is now a class RB. Kai played AM/wing and banged at striker. I trust Arteta.
Jordan just forgetting the 50 games where Rice was arguably our best player. Bro has negative ball knowledge
@virupakshawalla5734
18 күн бұрын
I think he is good can get better but got way overestimated by many. He didn't actually turn up in biggest games and teams with him at 6 have problems attacking down the middle. As a box to box his energy and combative spirit can be great but technically well off world class. Happy he is with it but he is not there yet footballing and mentality wise.
I see why Jordan is not involved in the other AFTV content
If you listen to Artetas quote where he says even at our worst we have to be better than our opponent at their best, it makes sense when he is so set on making sure he has an air tight defense. If you CANNOT concede then you always have a chance of winning a game, but worst case, drawing. Fulham Villa, West Ham 3 games we would’ve liked to win but if we at least got draws in all 3 we were champions. Now he just needs to get a killer up top to ensure that we make the most of any sniff on goal we get
Dear Jordan, Declan Rice is not any of Jorginho, Rodri or Partey. Declan Rice is the Kante of England!!! Like they say, if you judge a fish on its ability to climb a tree, it will always fall short. Peak Kante in this generation will be a bargain for £100m, Declan Rice, is at the minimum now, close to Peak Kante, he still has many more levels to get to
The Problem is Kane.
Guys I seen Carafiori for 4 years he is an Amazing defender but amazing attacking player and goal scorer please watch highlights of Bologna vs Juventus he scores 2 Amazing goals. You’re talking about Giorgio Scalvini top defender but he did his ACL in his last game.
I don't know what it is but I'm hyped about Calafiori. Italian defenders rarely ever leave Italy and he is highly adored by Italian fans. I grew up adoring that Ancelotti Milan team and the epic long hair with the headband look Calafiori has reminds me of Nest and Maldini. I'm super hyped.
How many euros matches has Jordan watched in total?
@garv04
19 күн бұрын
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Love the Pod Guys. Perfect balance of views. James - Optimist Lee - Emotional Turkish - Realist Jordan - Cynic / Pessimist. Keep up the great work guys. COYG
Listen this podcast is well sought-after, you got man like Ashley Walters tuning in you got a banger here...best football fan show there is!! COYG ❤
I know Jordan is known for having some proper wild off opinions on football. I think he's take on Rice might be up there with the Havertz Kaka comparison. Rice in Emgland last games was 1 of their best performers. Whether you're a stat man or your more the eye test I don't understand how you can say Rice was average, etc. I think by now it's clear that the problem is Southgate if it was just a foden or trent that were playing bad & the rest of the team was balling out then you can put the blame on said players. When you've got Bellingham Foden trent walker Kane all playing bellow par to bad it's got to he the managers that's to blame. You can't have that many players of that quality all playing bad. For me it has to be Southgate fault
I swear the mystery defender Jordan was talking about, was actually just Calafiori
A reminder to Jordan that transfer order doesn't equal priority
No matter how tired Lee is, he can always pop up with a Netflix or Tactical Insight jab. Sign of a true, experienced player, keep it up lads 💙.
Great that Jordan is rating an Italian defender and a Turkish Midfielder , they are so good, he doesn't even know there names. Is this a case of " keep there name out of your God dam mouth 😅😅
I am glad the Rice discussion came up. It does my head all the chat about Rice, I agree with Turkish, Pep has had some negative effects on the game. Makelele is rightfully hailed as a goat DM, Keane, etc none are great "on the ball", their job is to break up play, intercept and then move the ball to other players, which Rice does to a T. Don't know how it's the job of a DM, to protect the defense, break play, intercept, switch play, create chances, play true balls, it's laughable.
Man never stop this podcast. I love it. You guys kill it. Go Gunners.
Well , obvious if you can get good and young left footed defender or midfilder you just need to get it. There are not that many out there
Jordan’s comments on Rice are mad, such short memories. He was best player on the pitch in over 50% of the games for us last year…
Sir Alex Ferguson always said you need to strengthen your team when you are strong , we had a problem at left back, so do it. We also need to address centre midfield, we need a striker and a rotation option for right wing.
@MerilP71
19 күн бұрын
Kudus!! 😮😂
There's also a plan to make Timber the Partey replacement if we sign carlifiori and it makes sense. Timber is solid and has good reading of the game
@MerilP71
19 күн бұрын
You guys brains are mad bro!!🧠 😮😅
@3bladeninja21
18 күн бұрын
What? Who told you this plan?
@dchampionpraisekeyz8341
18 күн бұрын
@@3bladeninja21 Why are you behaving funny? Hasn't City used CB as DM before? Is it out of place? Football has changed bro, wake up
@3bladeninja21
18 күн бұрын
@dchampionpraisekeyz8341 you said there is a plan to use Timber there not centre backs have played there before.
@dchampionpraisekeyz8341
18 күн бұрын
@@3bladeninja21 Yes the coaches know all these especially pep and Arteta who buys players who can play in multiple positions.
Let's be honest no one know Calafiori before the Euros. We were too focused on getting a striker to compete with Havertz.
Arsenal have agreed contract terms for Italy and Bologna defender Riccardo Calafiori until 2029, but the clubs still need to agree a fee for the 22-year-old
A lot of comments against Jordan but I do think he is right regarding Rice on the ball - Rice is best as the destroyer & then play a simple pass to our more creative midfielders. Would love Rice to be our 6 & we buy a new more technically gifted 8
‘If I’ll be really honest’ I don’t think we’ll ever meet a more honest guy than Lee
I love rice. But he's a dm. A number 6. We need a box to box number 8 with more of a passing range. I think bringing in calafiori and him inverting allows rice to make his forward runs.
But the left hand side as in LB is the most lacking in that defence despite having many defenders who can be deployed there
Jordan talking like rodri is flawless but he has been ripped when having to actually defend. Luis Diaz, nico Williams for example
@dontrilla3683
19 күн бұрын
Y’all arsenal fans can’t handle the hard truth. Rodri won City UEFA, 4 EPL’s and Spain Nations League. etc
@GermanChickenwing
19 күн бұрын
Nico Williams?
In the event that the pursuit for Calafiori is successful, my hope would be for the next stage of the team evolution to be a move to a dedicated back 3 defence and 4 man midfield, instead of achieving the exact same affect via inverting from one of the full back positions in order to gain the numerical advantage in midfield in an auxiliary fashion. Football formations, systems and styles are one thing, but the fundamental issue to them all is having the right personnel to fit in the first place. Regardless of the speculation that the Italian must be being brought in to play left back and be first choice option as cover for Magalhaes which might well be the case (I think that was the plan when we went for Martinez last year), it would be dismissive of Arteta's innate ability to think outside the box and be innovative, and for him not to have taken note that Calafiori shares traits with Saliba in having comfortably played both center back and full back, whilst having similar physical attributes, speed, aggression and intelligence on the ball. That then being the case, neither would be uncomfortable located in the half space in-between those 2 traditional positions whilst accommodating Magalhaes in the middle. As an analogy, the equivalent of a rottweiler flanked by by doberman pinchers.
Jordan the type of guy to say I wanted the Italy’s other CB but not know his name… joker
The banter on this podcast was hilarious boys. A lot of well timed shots were fired with the Judge being at the heart of most of them. The one towards the end about England’s potential semi final opponent being Holland was particularly good 😂
The explanation James gave about Calafiori for LB does make total sense, let’s see.
Turkish is right, there’s no guarantee Gabriel will be an Arsenal player at the end of the window - this is a good signing, but we do need to sell, have to find a midfielder next
Suddenly everyone stops trolling Jordan and sits still attentively absorbed as he breaks it down about Rice perfectly. Big up the J man, quality assessment.
Having watched Turkish's last watch along...Glad to see you still breathing.
Love this pod❤
Just because you agree with someone opinion, doesn't mean it's wrong or bad
As the guys all have one team each in the semis. Change to sweepstake to bonus points for next seasons table for whoever wins the euros. ❤ the pod!
Suprised nobody called out Lee saying Kivié again
Jordan's football knowledge looks quite basic,or is it just me🤔🤔
@DarkkusPangg
19 күн бұрын
Yeah it's just you
@robertkahacho6438
19 күн бұрын
@@DarkkusPangg OK
Love this show❤
@RichardBarrow-xo7ou
20 күн бұрын
Honestly I look forward to it all the tine
Could Kiwor be added to the deal for Califori as he linked to go to Italy?
We should sign Moses Simon as our own doku
Jordan, Everytime you look at Rice throught the prism of Rodri/Partey, he's going to look less of a player. Same as if you tried to look at the other two through his stregths. Rice's strengths (ball carrying, great recovery) are the strengths of an 8 (Vieira/Yaya Toure), Not a 6 (Gilberto/Rodri/Partey). The lack of "that pass" is what takes him away from being a 6, which is why we need to sign one, but as usual, you'll just go and spout the same observation at your very next attempt to comment on Rice.
Tierney and Tivarez could pay for Calafori. Save money on wages also.
Competition for both CBs and someone who can play LBs. This is an upgrade on a lot of our defenders. Now on to a 6 and a striker.
Jordan's take on Rice is giving me an aneurysm.
We signed the wrong player in 2022 from Porto, Vitinha moved to PSG that summer and we signed Vieira Vitinha is exactly the sort of player we need in midfield i think
If we can get 30+ for kiwior then it’s smart business
whilst i do thing from time to time Jordans takes are absolutely SHOCKING, the unnecessary banter is too much. the chemistry of the group is what makes it so good, so if I have to listen to a fuming take its fine 😂 keep it up lads
Of all the positions on the pitch, in this EURO the one spot that no one hasn't really shone is No9. The one that has, was a super sub, the BFG. Cody has done well but he starts out left, Kane hasn't, Morata & Lakaku as expected, not.
Missed the “Haaaws it gaaawn people” Love you lot!
I thought I'd watch the episode without much emotions coz preseason. Then I hear Jordan...
Looks to me its safety for the current CB Saliba. Kiwior will stay IMO
I think hes to upgrade on Kiwior as he didnt seem to be up to it in the champions League
James forgets Arteta was willing to get rid of Gabriel last August he started Partey at RB and White as CB
@glennicholls1971
19 күн бұрын
No mate you forgot why he done it
Hearing Jordans opinions really confirm the joke that he doesn’t watch the games
Jordon, you keep doing you my guy. It's obvious that you only get the flak you do due to being the one, especially out of the four of you, who is most likely to offer up critiques, or highlight flaws, in Arsenal players. Fact of the matter is many within the Arsenal online fanbase, especially in AFTV comment sections and on Twitter, CANNOT HANDLE ANY CRITICISMS OF ANY ARSENAL PLAYER.....EVER! They're a hypersensitive, sycophantic bunch, very emotional, quick to temper and highly defensive. Your statements on this pod would have gone under the radar had you not said what you did about Raya or Rice which, let's be honest, were far from controversial or unfounded. There's a sub section of Arsenal (online) fans who only want to hear positivity 24/7, or at least as often as possible when it comes to anything Arsenal related, even if they're positive lies. But, alas, it is what it is. It's not your job to pander to the insecure. Especially if they were breastfed for too long. Bless up 👊🏾
Haven’t finished the pod but reckon Jordan might be on about Scalvini. Either way wouldn’t want him over Calafiori, as I don’t think enough was ever made of when Harry Kane absolutely roasted Scalvini for pace when Kane had played the whole match and Scalvini had just come on in an international game
Under the last years of Wenger, we had to pay big wages to attract decent players to come to a club that wasn't winning anything, as Jordan says when you then try to sell them, as players detest lower wages (who doesn't), a lower transfer fee is the only way to offset it. Ramsdale didn't do well as a covering GK as he must have been vexed over being trumped and under extreme pressure to get his place back. But if he accepts he is No2, maybe he can do a job with a settled head. @31:55 James lets out the secret Ooompa-Looompa in him! With a facial expression to match @31:56
Lee showing the art of sleeping with the eyes open
Championships are won with strong defence. If we have such amazing options and back-up for our usual defenders, we will be in a great position next year. Remember Timber is fit and ready to go as well.
Calafiori Gabriel Saliba Timber Which will put Kimmich/Partey Rice and Timber in the midfield in attack. With odegaard hovering in front
Jordan “what is the fee 50,50,70 mil” 🤦🏻♂️
If jordan thinks were getting 2 signings exluding raya, then im expecting white to come on in the 70th min for joshua kimmich, havertz coming on to give osimhen a break and the half time substitution because diogo costa stubbed a toe
On the Ramsdale subject, his wage seems excessive for being a back up.
Calafiori Gabriel Saliba Timber That's the back four. Zini, Kuwior, Tomiyasu, Ben White as second choices.
@garv04
19 күн бұрын
Facts
@GermanChickenwing
19 күн бұрын
I bet you never saw calafiori played
@Alex-dg2dn
18 күн бұрын
ben white won‘t get replaced in the starting line up
I am with Jordan on Raya he is not convincing for me even his kicking is average
I love the show guys but seriously Jordan is not up to scratch he just says controversial things to sound smart to compensate for the fact he isn’t actually bothered at all about the arsenal
Time for the Forever Arsenal podcast to invest on a replacement for Jordan this transfer window - Jess would be amazing
@garv04
19 күн бұрын
Facts
As an Australian it's wild to me that someone can go red in 19 degree weather it's currently winter in Aus and today it was 16 degrees, so based on that James wouldn't survive an Aussie winter 🤣🤣🤣
Gordon, palmer ,saka , fodon jud , rice, trent stone not sure the trips left back cause we aint got nothing else
Its 32 min and still jordan didnt tell the other italian defender name. Waiting....
Can you boys buy Jordan a mic and a 4K camera it’s time he catches up to you lot. Also a ring light or two 🙏🏾
I don't remember Rice ever having a good performance for England, It doesn't instantly make you a different player when you sign for 100m
James stats are dodgy and this podcast feels very negetive around a new signing cheer up lads next season is ours
Oh, James 😢 put some spf on next time! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Calafiori would play LB or LCM if he signs,not CB
I genuinely wonder if Califiori is a replacement for Thomas Partey.
Love how Jordan fuels the keyboard warriors like a moth to a flame. Keep the engagement up warriors😂
Who's to say he doesnt play mid field ? next to rice and odegaard
Bring Lille goalkeeper Lucas Chevalier to Arsenal. Very good reflexes, saving penalties and interceptions. This type of player is like S. Ortega, Kelleher. Chevalier is good as a cover for David Raya if A. Ramsdale leaves Arsenal.
Ok, so nobody's mentioned it, but Calafiori is listed as also being a "left mid-fielder".....food for thought
Replace Jordan 🥱
@RenegadeMaster137
20 күн бұрын
Nahhh cmon, this show would not be the same without Jordan
@TheoWalcott14
20 күн бұрын
I wouldn’t watch if they replaced him. Would be so boring
@Paulinhox88
20 күн бұрын
@@RenegadeMaster137correct. It would be better
@Paulinhox88
20 күн бұрын
@@TheoWalcott14bye
I think the out going are the most important part of this part of the season, getting rid of dead wood like Nelson, Nketiah, Lokonga, Tavares and players who just aren’t at our level now like Smith Rowe, Ramsdale and Tierney because if we sell those 7 we need to make minimum 110-115 million. Then we also free up a space or 2 in the squad for a few youth players to come through and either make there way into the team or bring up there value to sell them and get the pure profit from them.
We were never very threatening attacking wise with Rice as the 6. Football has moved on. Back in the day CBs hoofed it into the stand.
Show starts with Jordan yawning and making noise... this guy is the comedy relief!