Hi everyone, at 27:00 there is an error where the images are labeled wrong. The blurry image on the left is DJI O3 and the other image on the right is Avatar Moonlight. This is a miss in the edit and please accept my apology’s.

@anisrezakhairi8787

5 ай бұрын

It's not late to edit and takedown this video

@mrmoon_fpv

5 ай бұрын

I was wondering about that and thought - this guy is so good he is seeing what I'm not

@MadRC

5 ай бұрын

@@soy_leche it’s very clear it’s an error and that area is now blurred. Taking it down is madness when it’s so clearly a mistake. Everyone noticed it.

@spacecentraleurope9826

5 ай бұрын

Is there another mistake at 31:00 where you show the Avatar footage at sunset? It says 4K but certainly looks as pixelated and aliased as the 1080p footage from earlier. It really doesn't look like 4k at all.

@overbese

5 ай бұрын

I thought you where testing us.

It’s nice to have competition in this area…finally starting to see more and more advances in our video systems. Great breakdown as always, much appreciated! Cheers.

@lemonsquareFPV

5 ай бұрын

Interesting times indeed. Caddx’s “V2” system. O4 near the end of the year. HDZero is developing their V2 system. And a couple of open source groups are working on hardware. Definitely a bunch of interesting video systems stuff happening this year!

It's nice to see the pace of innovation in FPV video lately. Hopefully this system will continue to evolve and expand to the point where it approaches feature parity and provides some legitimate competition for DJI. If they can hit that mark and offer the system for a more competitive price, that's a win IMO.

Excellent review so far (because it is all you can do). Thanks for the impeccably honest reviews especially with Caddx releases these days. Love the way you handle it, and you are one of the very few I can trust 100% of the time. As such, one of the channels I watch for product reviews. Thank you for putting honesty and the FPV community before anything else. You can count on my support. Love the work THANKS THANKS

Perfectly put Ian!! "A typical Caddx release"

@MadRC

5 ай бұрын

What more can be said.

Fantastic testing and review, Ian! Thanks! 😃 Even with all the issues, it's looking fantastic! Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

@MadRC

5 ай бұрын

Thanks MC

I'm here for the "whilst"! Thank you for your work MT.

This is awesome to see it's finally here I can't wait to one for myself may wait just a bit

I'm new to fpv and I've been watching a lot of reviewers lately for what I want to buy. You are a breath of fresh air with your truly honest review and also specifying that you received it for free to review the items. I've noticed other reviewers making there reviews so vague if they like something or not that you wonder if you can trust them or not. thanks and you have a new subscriber :)

Thank you for emphasizing that it is a beta product. Caddx needs to stop rushing these products out. I had to send my Goggles X back because they completely died after 5 packs. Didn't experience the overheating they just never turned on again. I am currently waiting for my replacements that somehow have been lost in the mail. This whole release has been a disaster.

Looks really nice!

Beautiful footage over the sea👍

@MadRC

5 ай бұрын

Thanks.

So glad they will release the DVR board as a stand alone product. Hopefully with the camera too. I have a spare v1 vtx and a lot invested in the v1 sets.

you have it labeled and talking about them backwards when you were comparing the two zoomed in videos.

Wow this Lens Nd filter is so cool

Your sincerely fanboy from walksnail discord here. Great review thx for this in-depth walkthrough.

This just highlights how hard it is to recommend new pilots jump on Avatar. With all the excitement of new products launching and then getting stuff that was hustled out the door before it is near final just leaves a sour taste in customers minds. Love the potential, hate the execution, but pulling for Caddx because they system offers so much!

Still doesn't have usb c built in. I don't understand why they refuse to put usb c on the vtx. They just Keel insisting on putting garbage plugs. It's stupid

Great video, thank you for that. I noticed some flickering at the slower shots. For example at 30:42 you see some flickering in the sky. Is KZread’s compression doing that or is it also noticeable in the raw DVR files?

I'm definitely making the switch to walksnail system they're making a great progress on their new tech

Great review as usual. What's the lowest voltage it will reliably work on? Thanks.

You're BEST! As always ;-) Hope CADDX will kill over-sharpness in next firmware.

Wow an SD Card finally! Looks promising. But the cost? Getting closer to an O3 price. Dual antennas great for aircraft but a pain on a quad. Very good video and in-depth review. Thank you.

I’d really like to see how this does in low light vs the older low light camera.

Looks like it will be up next for my cinewhoop, haven't looked but hope there is a flat color profile for better color grading, also yes that fisheye is quite a lot hopefully gyroflow can take care of it

Hmmm, I wasn't expecting Caddx to nail a perfect 03 competitor out of the box. This does look pretty intregueing, but wow that sharpening is a dealbreaker for me if they can't release a firmware that allows it to be dialed in to taste. The colors look pretty good though!

Wow, this is really interesting. It'll be cool to see if you can fix up the sharpness and noise by playing with the camera settings.

At 12:50 you mention recording at different frame rate (60fps) while transmitting 100fps. But all then previous Walksnail VTXs allow the same (record 1080p60 while sending 720p100). I always thought it was strange that noone mentioned frame-dropping or something which would also be inconsistent because there is no way to do it smoothly like 720p120 - 1080p60. How can a sensor run at 100fps and record 60?! Without stuttering. Unless it a as running at 300fps 5 and 3 divisors...?

Does the onboard image stabilization work for inflight footage sent back to the VRX? Live stabilization might be nice for some things.

Did an order as soon as i saw the news about it. Despite the fact that it is again needs some job on the firmware (and hw maybe), i wish to support them for development of such a product

Does it look good through the cam and can it perform in the ballpark of an o3? I like my o3’s, but caddx is figuring it out well. Looks like for the money, its a less expensive good alternative. Looks like the aggressive Auto White Balance is going nuts at the end. Will they ever do a vista 2??

Aren't the labels at 27:06 wrong? Your description of O3 being muddy doesn't match the video

@MadRC

5 ай бұрын

Yes sorry that’s an error. I will post a pinned comment now.

Yup…I’m ordering the 110 kit…PayPal account engaged…pulling the trigger.😂

@sleepingbearffg5008

5 ай бұрын

Lol been there.. only live once my brother 👊🤪💪💪

Great that DJI has some competition. The flickering would make it unusable in twilight. They should add 25/50 fps modes for Europe.

@ChrisCroft77

5 ай бұрын

Why add 25/50 fps modes? It’s a digital video so stop using Analog PAL/NTSC frame rates as a reference.

At 27:09 did you mislabel them? Because DJI O3 4K looks sharper to me and more "yellowish"

Caddx system is so flexible

this camera pulls some stunning video in 4k, but i noticed the same issue in both 4k and 1080p - why does it feel like the left and right edges are blurred/noisey? definitely more noticable on the left side. I really like the color pallet of this over the O3. O3 looks like much cooler temp tones and caddx seems to have a bit more depth. I am hoping by march we have heard about whatever new tech dji has coming and i can decide if i go dji or walksnail (still on analog).

So the footage is all default settings, and noise removal turned off? I feel like they should have put more time into the default presets then, but also unfortunate you didn't have more time to explore the available settings Hopefully they can fix a lot of the issues with a software update

will they have a version without that huge FOV. O3 130° is quite good and that means we can use frames that were optimised for O3 FOV like speedybee master 5 v2

Aren't the labels mismatched on the 3x zoomed comparison? Thanks for the honest video!

@MadRC

5 ай бұрын

Yes. Sorry I have pinned a comment now.

I hope they do release dvr separately or add second camera input. If cameras get good why do we need a GoPro? I get two FPV cameras one on top one Normal. It would be super light and you can set different camera settings for flying recording.

So can this sd-card recorder be used with the hdpro STARVIS camera and it's vtx?

what is the length of the cable from the camera to the vtx?

I don't see any testing info regarding GPS interference. The V2 VTXs are great in this regard but I think that has a lot to do with their external cases. Curious as to how this setup performs. also. the standalone DVR board is super interesting to me - particularly for use in large fixed-wing craft. Being able to shift the VTX and antennas further away from the camera should open up some equipment placement options.

Nice cinematic flying btw. Always nerve racking flying low over water especially with a new untested quad

@MadRC

5 ай бұрын

Yea it’s always asking for issues.

If they are able to get this down to $150 its game over for DJI. Walksnail is now the best all-round Digital system no matter if you fly whoops or full size quads

How do you start and stop the recording on this camera ?

Lol that update cable is ridiculous

How do you change to low latency mode ?

Please make a range test vedio

Hello, what is that frame you have O3 in it? It looks super sick 👍👍

@MadRC

5 ай бұрын

30

Looking at specs it Looks like it’s a modified caddx polar cam to work with the avatar system. I’m not knocking the cam. I liked the polar. I just hate the fov and how it slightly fisheyes around the edges. In this one it seems caddx has fixed that issue.

not at all related but 31.30 im experiencing the same thing with the new hdzero micro V3 camera

You mentioned it had a manual mode, does it take still images? If so is there a enhancement of resolution and detail?

@MadRC

5 ай бұрын

No still images

@annonomus6675

5 ай бұрын

@@MadRC 👍

i thought this cam would work with the old vtx ´s ? then what is the kernel update for ? just longer dvrs ? and why moonlight ? is there some special night view capabillity ?

@MadRC

5 ай бұрын

It will. The kernel update gives you EXFAT for the DVR to stop if splitting the DVR up into 4gb chunks.

@hirnlegorush

5 ай бұрын

thanks mate! btw:can you say anything about the vtx´s with hdmi_in and control interface for cameras ?

Will love to know what the naked version weighs.

@MadRC

5 ай бұрын

Yea more info soon

Looks pretty decent. My biggest issue would be the fish eye and extreme fov. I hate that

@MadRC

5 ай бұрын

Yes it’s wide as hell

@Foremi

5 ай бұрын

Can you not swap the lens with a standard m12 lens? It’d ruin the stabilization more than likely though…

I see you got Nick Burns review model. He lost that plate you pointed out

27:00 are the labels switched or am i crazy

@MadRC

5 ай бұрын

Yes sorry that’s an error I will post a pinned comment now

Walksnail friends, I have the VRX and with my current goggles I can only get 720p. I did this to try hd fpv over analog. Would you continue down this path and get the goggles or do you wish you switched to DJI/HDZero and why.

@Fly_High_FPV

5 ай бұрын

Dji continues to stay a step ahead. The big things they are lacking now is low light performance, and no options for 1S. Walksnail has already covered those weaknesses, and now has squarely aimed at the 03, with DJI just months away from release

@karterjones9590

5 ай бұрын

@@Fly_High_FPV thank you!

@visioneerone

5 ай бұрын

I have WS goggles and p much always fly in 720p :)

@karterjones9590

5 ай бұрын

@@visioneerone thank you!

Damn, I miss home.

@MadRC

5 ай бұрын

Yea not always getting good days like this.

It does look like they've had a go... but it seems like a budget version of the O3... which after a year of the O3.... well I'll just take and O3 fir $20 more lol. TBH DJI is untouchable... even just the ability to usb in pull footage and get straight back in the air. I just pray the O4 unit is compatible with the V2s

@nateteator3901

5 ай бұрын

9:50 and it needs this tiny cable!?

For this first firmware version I think that a 40dollars less price tag is really promising, but either o3 or moonlight will not give the image of a good action camera.

@gmivisualsjason3729

5 ай бұрын

At the expense of additional weight..... Which in a world of ever increasing regulations is an important factor to consider.

Is this the new review procedure you were speaking of a few videos ago Ian......good move.

@MadRC

5 ай бұрын

Largely yea. I can’t review something that’s not the same hardware you’re going to get and I’m going to be very clear on that moving forward.

That flickering appears to be auto shutter with the changes in lighting. Should be fixed.

My friend, will we be able to use our Google V2 or Google 2 Ambks DJI glasses on this system ?

@MadRC

5 ай бұрын

Sadly no sorry.

Seems a bit sloppy, 2 USB ports, 2 plug headers, and you gotta link em together to do updates...seem like they cheaped out on integration and duct taped a couple boards into one box

I found that 60fps the image is still flickering, it should me more smooth for 60fps

@MadRC

5 ай бұрын

It’s ok in the goggles. Remember this is 30fps video unless you have tested it your self. There is lots to fix though.

@BuuFPV

5 ай бұрын

Ordering this week to test, thank you for your great review @@MadRC

Man. On one hand getting back into fpv last fall it kinda made sense to go walksnail but now it seems so half baked. My goggles x go to a black screen between battery packs about 30% of the time, is this a known issue? They have to be rebooted to recover. My real concern is it’s a caddx exclusive. They decide to dump it, go under, etc it would heavily impact the products. I can deal with bugs and software issues I’m just concerned how aggressively caddx is updating the hardware they are clearly putting out beta hardware as well and just releasing “v2” and “v3” you have to buy. I don’t want to do that for my $450 goggles. For analog I still use my original ancient fatshark hd’s because they work. On the other hand I have absolutely loved flying my meteor75 around inside with it while recording 1080p60 and just put together a 3.5in 2fiddy and diy rekon35 that are the first “modern” drones I’ve put together in 7 years.

So Caddx lied! Saying it doesn't effect latency! For sure it does, you clearly showed us it does!

@MadRC

5 ай бұрын

It’s close to zero

I think the unit that KremerFPV got is retail, and his footage looks far less over-sharpened. kzread.info/dash/bejne/oKqjmqiJYsSYlZc.html It's still not quite O3 quality but damn if it isn't clearly the best non-DJI VTX on the market! Personally I'm most impressed by the detail in dark areas - it blows away the O3 in low light and even in the darker areas of bright scenes!

@MadRC

5 ай бұрын

I don’t think he could have tbh. They all should be pre release right now.

color depth? bit-rate? dynamic range? color profiles? no one answering camera questions....

@MadRC

5 ай бұрын

Bitrate 150Mbps. 8bit. And no main profiles other than led and night mode.

@TheTomJon

5 ай бұрын

@@MadRC Appreciate ya Mads

No built in usb c and another stupid little cord to lose. The video quality better be amazing or it's not worth it imo

hey just an idea, maybe export your video at 60 fps so we can tell the difference. use the brain

@MadRC

5 ай бұрын

Hay I record all my studio footage in 30fps, it’s matched to that. There is plenty of raw footage around if you want that. I’m not really providing that.

DJI is significantly ahead, and no one is keeping up. I find it senseless to invest money in another ecosystem. O3 was released a year ago and is better, and soon O4 will be released.

@Fly_High_FPV

5 ай бұрын

This

@sleepingbearffg5008

5 ай бұрын

Competition always Good, Choices too . If anything brings down DJI prices 🤔🤔

@francesco4561

5 ай бұрын

@@sleepingbearffg5008 i agree with you

@MadfishFPV

5 ай бұрын

DJI might be significantly ahead but all manufacturers need to get with the program and come up with a way that we can still support their goggles and vtx eco system, while also giving people the flexibility of still using analog systems with a plug in module without using a shit avin jack. To keep price and weight down with micro whoops and toothpicks I like to use analog.

Caddx should realize that these janky plugs really cheapen the overall image of their product. Everyone wants usb-c!

@MadRC

5 ай бұрын

100%. USB C all the way.

Walksnail fish eye is bad and Colors on o3 is better

Pass, another DJI clone product, I will wait for the HDZ sunrise

Sorry but this camera system looks really bad (my opinion) Too sharp, too laggy and wait too fish eyed. Flying with this would make me nauseous, I think.

Walksnail needs to slow down and focus on making good products instead of making a lot of 💩

@MadRC

5 ай бұрын

You’re not wrong.

Decided to Unsubscribe From youtubers that rarely answer to questions on the comments section...

@MadRC

5 ай бұрын

Cool. I think that’s a great idea, I had also decided to not response to dumb comments that bring no value however once again I have failed. the interesting thing is I answer loads but clearly that’s not enough for you , I also am easily and very regularly found on discord and Facebook. However if me not being at your instant call is not good enough you are more than welcome to sod off and try and find the same info elsewhere.