Recorded from the cab of a class 150 dmu in October 2009 on the Borderlands Line from Wrexham Central to Bidston.
Жүктеу.....
Пікірлер: 78
@bazza945 Жыл бұрын
9 years up and this is my first viewing. Thanks for an interesting cab ride.
@everoche84338 жыл бұрын
fantastic brought back a lot memories I was born 1944 used over head railway frequently lifted my heart many thanks and God bless you for that
@Ashtonian547 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the notes and history! I really enjoy those.
@speakerscorner73 жыл бұрын
Used to play in them fields at bidston as a kid in the 70s..how overgrown it is now.. And there was a little yard at the side of bidston where the old trains would pull in.. There was one of them train carts like in the old silent movies where you could push and pull the lever up and down to move the cart's and we used to play on them in the summers. I remember my summers like an Enid blyton type summers.. Bidston was a lovely place.
@SamM-oh2cx
3 жыл бұрын
I remember going to Birkenhead town every Saturday morning on the bus passing the massive Bidston Steel factory! Happy memories!
@filmsbynick11 жыл бұрын
I used this line from shotton to wrexham for 4 years going to uni. Would often look out the window and wonder about where the abandoned lines and junctions went to. I have a keen interest in local history and your conversation about the old junctions and stations was really interesting. Thanks for the upload!
@daveparry703710 жыл бұрын
I worked on this line 1964 to 1968 as a leading porter at Hawarden.
@TheWirralChannel5 жыл бұрын
Great shots up the spine of the peninsula.
@imcadam12110 жыл бұрын
A very informative & enjoyable video. ;-)
@carlh4292 жыл бұрын
Made this journey a good few times back in the 1980s
@VioletTown110 жыл бұрын
Brilliant!!!! Used to play on the line as a (naughty) kid between Hawarden and Aston in the late 60's , early 70's (alongside Bennett's Lane and near where the Up Main Fish Tail Caution Signal was positioned coming into Hawarden) so it all brings back memories. As an adult have driven ADL class DMU's here in Auckland, New Zealand and those Leyland engines are so familiar. Can hear the turbo kicking in at around 25MPH :) Thanks for this wonderful trip down memory lane :) Although it does sound like the Driver flicks it straight into notch 3 when departing each station haaa :)
@sw01ller
7 жыл бұрын
notch 3 would be insufficient, you need notch 5 to get these moving. Notch 7 would be full throttle. :)
@fouloleron200210 жыл бұрын
Great video, the conversation is a bonus.
@Isochest8 жыл бұрын
Nice to see many of the stations with foot crossings:-)
@ewloe0111 жыл бұрын
My local line! Hav'nt seen this view of the line since 101's and 108's! Brillint!
@davidatherton528810 жыл бұрын
liked your video. i have grown up watching the trains at buckley junction, so this line has always been close to my heart, Any chance i could have a copy please
@DewiHDavies11 жыл бұрын
Thanks, much appreciated,
@ewloe0111 жыл бұрын
At 22;15 I recall 40057 on track relaying in 84 or 85!
@anirishman7711 жыл бұрын
Great video...greetings from the U.S.A.
@zabadak687 жыл бұрын
Pardon me, boys. Is that you chattin' on the choo-choo?:-p Great video. Keep 'em comin'!
@duxberry19589 жыл бұрын
Did this line some years ago
@Mvs10108 жыл бұрын
I live along that train line in Canada that they talk about, as it nears Jasper from Toronto. Never even rode that train though.
@albiegamingvideos
8 жыл бұрын
Not quite.
@greatbritishentertainmentl56365 жыл бұрын
Nice video save for the chatting although interesting at times.
@everoche84338 жыл бұрын
I don't in live in. Liverpool now or ENGLAND but how I miss it all pierhead we lived in pub called the Lord Clive corner of Clive St and Northumberland St. Dingle Liverpool 8 .I can't find any information on there at all can you help me please I'm still a sçouse so I'm chancing my arm have you spare copies of the over head railway and Liver building the run to New Brighton .Southport
@DrFod3 жыл бұрын
Is the track all welded now? Lived by Gwersyllt and used to hear the clackity-clack all the time but I swear I haven't heard it in ages.
@johnburns40178 жыл бұрын
There is a recommendation to pursue battery/electric trains for this line so the trains can run into the Liverpool and Birkenhead underground sections. It could then a 15 minutes service, not every hour. Then it would be on the Wirral Line of Merseyrail if it came about. Battery trains are running in Japan.
@sw01ller
7 жыл бұрын
John Burns I'd love this! Save me having to do it 3 times in a day!!
@johnburns4017
7 жыл бұрын
Dave stowell Do you sit around waiting to take the train out? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borderlands_Line#Proposed_battery_trains
@sw01ller
7 жыл бұрын
only when I'm working. but yes.
@johnburns4017
7 жыл бұрын
Dave stowell You can always do some brushing up. :)
@CoradiaClass1758 жыл бұрын
was this in the morning or night? My nain n taid (Grandpa n grandma) doesn't live far from gwersyll railway station
@Moto-Emotion10 жыл бұрын
3:29 - ufo ? (from right to left on heaven)
@randomforum
10 жыл бұрын
Interesting, I didn't even see it first :D wow
@gb5uq
6 жыл бұрын
Definitely !!!!.
@grahamnancledra70363 жыл бұрын
Great to experience the borderlands route. Are the line speeds really that slow? Also, I hot that with the exception of the first mile within Wrexham the whole route is double tracked but I never noticed a service in the opposite direction. Did I miss something?
@johncollins8071
3 жыл бұрын
So it took 51mins eleven years ago. Today (23/8/2020) the timetable allows 65mins. How's that for progress! I was wondering how the majority of the line is signalled.
@DewiHDavies
3 жыл бұрын
The video was shot on a Sunday so the service is done with only one unit.
@KasabianFan44
Жыл бұрын
@@johncollins8071 Where on Earth did you take that 65-minute figure from? Trains on this line run hourly with two units in operation on a weekday - which means they literally cannot take longer than 60 minutes each way (120 minutes round-trip including turnarounds). And that’s how this line has operated for years now. I just checked the working timetable for this line, and the actual journey time is closer to 58 minutes end-to-end.
@johncollins8071
Жыл бұрын
@@KasabianFan44 I haven't posted anything on this video yet your message came through to me. Been hacked, I think.
@andybray97913 жыл бұрын
Loving the welsh accent
@Jamie273J410 жыл бұрын
Great vid My local line and do you have anyidea when the freight train passes through hope thanks
@sw01ller
7 жыл бұрын
Jamie Wilkes www.realtimetrains.com
@sw01ller
7 жыл бұрын
Jamie Wilkes if you go to that website (sorry think it ends .co.uk). Type in hope station and click on detailed. Aim for around about 1500 and you should see what time it passes. It only shows in 1 hour slots so you'll have to do a bit of searching but freight does show up
@msparry15 жыл бұрын
Was it a ghost train. The stations were deserted
@britishrailvideos242711 жыл бұрын
Very Nice route
@jamesatkinson30379 жыл бұрын
hello good people:))) are all these cab rides filmed in during autumn winter and spring?
@DewiHDavies
9 жыл бұрын
james atkinson I record mine whenever the chance arises.
@jamesatkinson3037
9 жыл бұрын
Dewi Davies I never stop enjoying them👍👍😁
@CoradiaClass1756 жыл бұрын
Sunset or Sunrise? (Brilliant video as well!)
@DewiHDavies
6 жыл бұрын
Recorded between about 16:00 - 19:00 in October.
@DewiHDavies11 жыл бұрын
You need to contact the company operating the train to apply for a cab pass.
@TheCraftingPickaxe11 жыл бұрын
how are you allowed in the cab, because I would love to go inside a train cab thanks
@StuAnderson9011 жыл бұрын
they do NOT do cab passes anymore... authorised personall only :)
@blameusa70826 жыл бұрын
is the 3rd rail to help stop derails?z
@DewiHDavies
6 жыл бұрын
Yes, over here it`s known as a check-rail and is found on curves that are less than a certain radius.
@bloxsclaymation
6 жыл бұрын
Usually the third rail carries a high voltage current that the train gets its power from. also look at how bad the Cess is(That's that access footpath by the outer edge of the track, The gap between the rails the train travels on(the rails are also known as "running rails") is called the Four foot and the gap between two pairs of running rails is called the six foot. now despite the 6 foot looking very safe and wide enough for you to stand in whilst a train or two trains pass is not the case. If you did stand in the 6 foot as two trains pass you would die that is why when you see works doing repair works on the rails they always go to the cess or an area called a refuge that is cut in to the bank and usually has brick walls next to the cess if they are working in a area of track where the cess is narrow like in a cutting in a city.
@DewiHDavies
6 жыл бұрын
Should have clarified that the 3rd rail at the start of the video is a check rail but the 3rd rail at the end of the video is a live rail for the Merseyrail Electric trains and carries 650V dc.
@blameusa7082
6 жыл бұрын
Ok thanks, I am modeling and was wondering about the one at the start! Good video! Thanks for inspiration!
@terenceprice50499 жыл бұрын
Does that Coal Siding still get used?
@DewiHDavies
9 жыл бұрын
Not these days.
@colinsmith891
3 жыл бұрын
@@DewiHDavies According to my new map (2018) it is now a cement works.
@DewiHDavies
3 жыл бұрын
@@colinsmith891 it was a siding that was used to supply the cement works with coal, now used as a dispatch point to send cement to Avonmouth.
@colinsmith891
3 жыл бұрын
@@DewiHDavies Thank you
@StuAnderson906 жыл бұрын
Who's doing the chatting the guy rdiing! I'd love to meet him!
@DewiHDavies
6 жыл бұрын
That was me I'm afraid.
@StuAnderson90
6 жыл бұрын
Brill!!!
@StuAnderson90
6 жыл бұрын
So informative
@StuAnderson90
6 жыл бұрын
do you fancy meeting up one day talk trains be great to meet you
@arthurbaldwin18046 жыл бұрын
This video shows the dreadful run down state of our railways. Were it not for the background voices we could be in a third world country, weeds growing everywhere trackbed almost overgrown. This was a twin track not that many years back but from the way it’s going this looks like it will soon be just another line disappeared and become a cycle way.
@blameusa7082
6 жыл бұрын
The way this country's going it won't matter soon...
@sw01ller
6 жыл бұрын
Not a chance in hell mate. That line will go on for a long time yet. It’s actually in a better state these days. But the welsh government will keep it going. There’s now talk of a new station opening up by shotton paper mill to serve Deeside industrial park.
@bloxsclaymation6 жыл бұрын
Rip network rail maintainace on this piece of the track.. No cess here what so ever they must hate doing repairs on this line.
@Bolivar2012able
4 жыл бұрын
This track is due an upgrade by Merseytravel and Transport for Wales with Cheshire County Council. Will be electrified all the way to Bidston then for the Liverpool Loop. But unnescessary if they run the new Hydrogen Trains on this section. Already electrified the Wirral Line to Chester, and Reinstated the Frodsham Loop for Chester Lime St.
Пікірлер: 78
9 years up and this is my first viewing. Thanks for an interesting cab ride.
fantastic brought back a lot memories I was born 1944 used over head railway frequently lifted my heart many thanks and God bless you for that
Thanks for the notes and history! I really enjoy those.
Used to play in them fields at bidston as a kid in the 70s..how overgrown it is now.. And there was a little yard at the side of bidston where the old trains would pull in.. There was one of them train carts like in the old silent movies where you could push and pull the lever up and down to move the cart's and we used to play on them in the summers. I remember my summers like an Enid blyton type summers.. Bidston was a lovely place.
@SamM-oh2cx
3 жыл бұрын
I remember going to Birkenhead town every Saturday morning on the bus passing the massive Bidston Steel factory! Happy memories!
I used this line from shotton to wrexham for 4 years going to uni. Would often look out the window and wonder about where the abandoned lines and junctions went to. I have a keen interest in local history and your conversation about the old junctions and stations was really interesting. Thanks for the upload!
I worked on this line 1964 to 1968 as a leading porter at Hawarden.
Great shots up the spine of the peninsula.
A very informative & enjoyable video. ;-)
Made this journey a good few times back in the 1980s
Brilliant!!!! Used to play on the line as a (naughty) kid between Hawarden and Aston in the late 60's , early 70's (alongside Bennett's Lane and near where the Up Main Fish Tail Caution Signal was positioned coming into Hawarden) so it all brings back memories. As an adult have driven ADL class DMU's here in Auckland, New Zealand and those Leyland engines are so familiar. Can hear the turbo kicking in at around 25MPH :) Thanks for this wonderful trip down memory lane :) Although it does sound like the Driver flicks it straight into notch 3 when departing each station haaa :)
@sw01ller
7 жыл бұрын
notch 3 would be insufficient, you need notch 5 to get these moving. Notch 7 would be full throttle. :)
Great video, the conversation is a bonus.
Nice to see many of the stations with foot crossings:-)
My local line! Hav'nt seen this view of the line since 101's and 108's! Brillint!
liked your video. i have grown up watching the trains at buckley junction, so this line has always been close to my heart, Any chance i could have a copy please
Thanks, much appreciated,
At 22;15 I recall 40057 on track relaying in 84 or 85!
Great video...greetings from the U.S.A.
Pardon me, boys. Is that you chattin' on the choo-choo?:-p Great video. Keep 'em comin'!
Did this line some years ago
I live along that train line in Canada that they talk about, as it nears Jasper from Toronto. Never even rode that train though.
@albiegamingvideos
8 жыл бұрын
Not quite.
Nice video save for the chatting although interesting at times.
I don't in live in. Liverpool now or ENGLAND but how I miss it all pierhead we lived in pub called the Lord Clive corner of Clive St and Northumberland St. Dingle Liverpool 8 .I can't find any information on there at all can you help me please I'm still a sçouse so I'm chancing my arm have you spare copies of the over head railway and Liver building the run to New Brighton .Southport
Is the track all welded now? Lived by Gwersyllt and used to hear the clackity-clack all the time but I swear I haven't heard it in ages.
There is a recommendation to pursue battery/electric trains for this line so the trains can run into the Liverpool and Birkenhead underground sections. It could then a 15 minutes service, not every hour. Then it would be on the Wirral Line of Merseyrail if it came about. Battery trains are running in Japan.
@sw01ller
7 жыл бұрын
John Burns I'd love this! Save me having to do it 3 times in a day!!
@johnburns4017
7 жыл бұрын
Dave stowell Do you sit around waiting to take the train out? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borderlands_Line#Proposed_battery_trains
@sw01ller
7 жыл бұрын
only when I'm working. but yes.
@johnburns4017
7 жыл бұрын
Dave stowell You can always do some brushing up. :)
was this in the morning or night? My nain n taid (Grandpa n grandma) doesn't live far from gwersyll railway station
3:29 - ufo ? (from right to left on heaven)
@randomforum
10 жыл бұрын
Interesting, I didn't even see it first :D wow
@gb5uq
6 жыл бұрын
Definitely !!!!.
Great to experience the borderlands route. Are the line speeds really that slow? Also, I hot that with the exception of the first mile within Wrexham the whole route is double tracked but I never noticed a service in the opposite direction. Did I miss something?
@johncollins8071
3 жыл бұрын
So it took 51mins eleven years ago. Today (23/8/2020) the timetable allows 65mins. How's that for progress! I was wondering how the majority of the line is signalled.
@DewiHDavies
3 жыл бұрын
The video was shot on a Sunday so the service is done with only one unit.
@KasabianFan44
Жыл бұрын
@@johncollins8071 Where on Earth did you take that 65-minute figure from? Trains on this line run hourly with two units in operation on a weekday - which means they literally cannot take longer than 60 minutes each way (120 minutes round-trip including turnarounds). And that’s how this line has operated for years now. I just checked the working timetable for this line, and the actual journey time is closer to 58 minutes end-to-end.
@johncollins8071
Жыл бұрын
@@KasabianFan44 I haven't posted anything on this video yet your message came through to me. Been hacked, I think.
Loving the welsh accent
Great vid My local line and do you have anyidea when the freight train passes through hope thanks
@sw01ller
7 жыл бұрын
Jamie Wilkes www.realtimetrains.com
@sw01ller
7 жыл бұрын
Jamie Wilkes if you go to that website (sorry think it ends .co.uk). Type in hope station and click on detailed. Aim for around about 1500 and you should see what time it passes. It only shows in 1 hour slots so you'll have to do a bit of searching but freight does show up
Was it a ghost train. The stations were deserted
Very Nice route
hello good people:))) are all these cab rides filmed in during autumn winter and spring?
@DewiHDavies
9 жыл бұрын
james atkinson I record mine whenever the chance arises.
@jamesatkinson3037
9 жыл бұрын
Dewi Davies I never stop enjoying them👍👍😁
Sunset or Sunrise? (Brilliant video as well!)
@DewiHDavies
6 жыл бұрын
Recorded between about 16:00 - 19:00 in October.
You need to contact the company operating the train to apply for a cab pass.
how are you allowed in the cab, because I would love to go inside a train cab thanks
they do NOT do cab passes anymore... authorised personall only :)
is the 3rd rail to help stop derails?z
@DewiHDavies
6 жыл бұрын
Yes, over here it`s known as a check-rail and is found on curves that are less than a certain radius.
@bloxsclaymation
6 жыл бұрын
Usually the third rail carries a high voltage current that the train gets its power from. also look at how bad the Cess is(That's that access footpath by the outer edge of the track, The gap between the rails the train travels on(the rails are also known as "running rails") is called the Four foot and the gap between two pairs of running rails is called the six foot. now despite the 6 foot looking very safe and wide enough for you to stand in whilst a train or two trains pass is not the case. If you did stand in the 6 foot as two trains pass you would die that is why when you see works doing repair works on the rails they always go to the cess or an area called a refuge that is cut in to the bank and usually has brick walls next to the cess if they are working in a area of track where the cess is narrow like in a cutting in a city.
@DewiHDavies
6 жыл бұрын
Should have clarified that the 3rd rail at the start of the video is a check rail but the 3rd rail at the end of the video is a live rail for the Merseyrail Electric trains and carries 650V dc.
@blameusa7082
6 жыл бұрын
Ok thanks, I am modeling and was wondering about the one at the start! Good video! Thanks for inspiration!
Does that Coal Siding still get used?
@DewiHDavies
9 жыл бұрын
Not these days.
@colinsmith891
3 жыл бұрын
@@DewiHDavies According to my new map (2018) it is now a cement works.
@DewiHDavies
3 жыл бұрын
@@colinsmith891 it was a siding that was used to supply the cement works with coal, now used as a dispatch point to send cement to Avonmouth.
@colinsmith891
3 жыл бұрын
@@DewiHDavies Thank you
Who's doing the chatting the guy rdiing! I'd love to meet him!
@DewiHDavies
6 жыл бұрын
That was me I'm afraid.
@StuAnderson90
6 жыл бұрын
Brill!!!
@StuAnderson90
6 жыл бұрын
So informative
@StuAnderson90
6 жыл бұрын
do you fancy meeting up one day talk trains be great to meet you
This video shows the dreadful run down state of our railways. Were it not for the background voices we could be in a third world country, weeds growing everywhere trackbed almost overgrown. This was a twin track not that many years back but from the way it’s going this looks like it will soon be just another line disappeared and become a cycle way.
@blameusa7082
6 жыл бұрын
The way this country's going it won't matter soon...
@sw01ller
6 жыл бұрын
Not a chance in hell mate. That line will go on for a long time yet. It’s actually in a better state these days. But the welsh government will keep it going. There’s now talk of a new station opening up by shotton paper mill to serve Deeside industrial park.
Rip network rail maintainace on this piece of the track.. No cess here what so ever they must hate doing repairs on this line.
@Bolivar2012able
4 жыл бұрын
This track is due an upgrade by Merseytravel and Transport for Wales with Cheshire County Council. Will be electrified all the way to Bidston then for the Liverpool Loop. But unnescessary if they run the new Hydrogen Trains on this section. Already electrified the Wirral Line to Chester, and Reinstated the Frodsham Loop for Chester Lime St.