Fantastic view on the 8 bit FM waves right there! :-)

@RolfRBakke

9 жыл бұрын

Thanks for stopping by, Jeroen :-)

@ozzie_goat

9 жыл бұрын

Rolf R Bakke If you don't mind me asking, is this really FM? It seems more like VCO instead.

@RolfRBakke

9 жыл бұрын

Alex Helton It is not FM, it is a digital phase accumulating oscillator with 24 bit accumulator and 12 bit wave output. A VCO is traditionally an analog design, but comparable to the digital phase accumulating oscillator.

@vuurniacsquarewave5091

8 жыл бұрын

+Rolf R Bakke I believe the Wavetable-synth in the Famicom mapper Namco N163, is also a "DPA"

@ZILtoid1991

8 жыл бұрын

+Rolf R Bakke The SID is a subtractive synthesizer, that means it has a variable oscillator and various filters per channel...

Jeroen Tel is a fucking genius!

Tel, Hubbard and Follin bros are the masters of their craft in the C64/NES and beyond era. Thank you again for all the memories these tunes have given us though out the years, even though some of the games tied to them were sinkers, the music made you want to push further to hear the next level music track! Amazing!

@JeroenTel

7 жыл бұрын

@hana-ng4ql

7 жыл бұрын

What about Ben Daglish and Wally Beben?

@niklasekelof7319

7 жыл бұрын

I would like to add Hülsbeck and Galway to that list if I may.

@JeroenTel

7 жыл бұрын

Both are legends!

@19822andy

6 жыл бұрын

And of course David Whittaker

0:53 It might be just me, but watching/hearing that bass pitch down has got to be one of the most satisfying things on youtube :]

@JeroenTel

7 жыл бұрын

Wouldn't that mean you don't know how to use KZread properly? I'm kidding, man! Nice compliment, thanks! :-)

@Retrospective.

5 жыл бұрын

You're not alone, i love it when it kicks in. i hate to sound like an old fart, but this really is, "when computer music was computer music", this could easily have been the backing for a song in the charts at the time. love it.

@NuntiusLegis

2 жыл бұрын

@@Retrospective. What do you mean, "at the time"? Proper old farts consider this timeless! Kidding apart, I agree computer music should sound like a computer. Same for graphics, ultra-realism is boring. Computer art should showcase an aesthetic specific to computers.

At 0:50, you just suddenly start smiling. Transition is awesome.

@JeroenTel

7 жыл бұрын

Yay! :-D

@mistaelfboi

4 жыл бұрын

More like 0:52...👍👍👍I legit have this on my retro playlist🙃

This can still be accepted by today's standards of music. Just sing over this and it sounds completely new! How he did this, was about dynamically altering the waveform right in the middle of waves to create custom sounds. The echo in the beginning is well done... cool Also go check Jeroen Tel's Supremacy! I just love these two songs.

@Train115

2 жыл бұрын

You don't even need to add lyrics, it's better than a good amount of modern EDM.

@grumpyoldgamerUK

Жыл бұрын

Matt Grays recent remix of this is superb on one of his Reformation albums. He adds his own little touch to it which is really nice

This has got to be the best thing I've found on KZread.

@JeroenTel

8 жыл бұрын

+Gilda Griffon (humbled)

@yugiohboyfriendappreciator7739

7 жыл бұрын

clearly, you haven't seen the ytpmv's of this.

@davidgasiorek4134

7 жыл бұрын

>ytpmvs That's because the shit taste I have is ironic, not real.

@yugiohboyfriendappreciator7739

7 жыл бұрын

Gilda Griffon well, not really. i mean, Robotron 3 was amazing. look it up.

Jeroen tel is the master of the long tones in c64 music world. this track is in my opinion one of it's best work.

@JeroenTel

8 жыл бұрын

+barti xanti Thank you Barti! :-)

@JeroenTel

7 жыл бұрын

BOOZE & METAL Yes. :-) (ironically gave it to the demo group named "Blackmail"...) :-D

@djlobb

6 жыл бұрын

thats pretty crappy that the devs never paid you! Don't worry, Robocop 3 was a pretty poor game anyway so forget them. But I'm glad you made this track!!

@JMDAmigaMusic

4 жыл бұрын

@@djlobb Don't forget the mind blowing ONE channel in-game tunes!

@JeroenTel

3 жыл бұрын

It's cool you would mention that. At the time I worked at Probe Software Ltd in London and I booked a flight to the Netherlands to see my then girlfriend. At the day of my travel my friend and producer Joe Bonar asked me if I could do the level-tunes (I was packed and all!)... I was so deadlined, that within an hour I wrote those 1 channel in-game tunes. I wished I had more time, because I would have composed more of them and with longer length, but somehow they came out quite nicely. Thanks for noticing! =)

On the second channel you can see a common SID technique for getting a good snare drum. It's usually made with one tick (1/50 of a second on pal) of noise followed by 2 or 3 ticks of a pitch bending square wave, and then it switches back to the noise. Here, it's inserted between the bass notes so it's pretty seamless to the listener that one channel does multiple things.

@vuurniacsquarewave5091

8 жыл бұрын

Yes and the advantage in that case is that the noise has its own channel there so it doesn't have to interrupt the bassline, only the triangle blip does.

@djlobb

6 жыл бұрын

I still prefer the fatness and sound of the C64 version over the NES. I believe Tel does too.

@JeroenTel

3 жыл бұрын

Yup. =D

For a long time I have wanted to say that this is one of my favourite pieces of SID music - Jeroen Tel, Rob Hubbard and Martin Galway are all 8-bit musical geniuses. This music brings back very happy memories of my teenage years. I am now 50, and I still LOVE music on good old SID! May it carry on forever.....

@JeroenTel

3 жыл бұрын

I am now 48 and I agree about Rob Hubbard, Martin Galway and Ben Daglish and some others having defined a part of my childhood.

That's pretty crazy that he got the drums and bass on the same track, I never noticed that before. It's even more impressive given the fact that the drums are pretty elaborate here.

My goosebumps just had goosebumps. Epic stuff that people will listen and marvel to centuries from now!

So far my best 3 minutes and 58 secondes of my life

@JeroenTel

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks Edix! :-)

I like this more than some of the electronic music we have today ! 😮🙌🏼

@JeroenTel

7 жыл бұрын

That's why there is "Tess & Tel" now. ;-)

@rodmunch69

11 ай бұрын

Some?

WOW. I always worshiped at the alter that was Tim Follin (genius), Rob Hobbard, and Martin Galway, but this, this is *right* up there, with the very best of the creme of SID music, what a creative genius, i need to fire up my C64 now ....

Dat bassline.

@ExtremeWreck

4 жыл бұрын

That baseline DUMMY THICC.

@Csinovnyik3000

4 жыл бұрын

It was not a DAT but a magnetic cassette... :)

@Psylicium

4 жыл бұрын

@@Csinovnyik3000 Duh :D

@crnkmnky

3 жыл бұрын

@@Csinovnyik3000 Dat bassline dummy magneticc

Another Jeroen tune I never get tired of listening too!

Jeroen at his best.

@JeroenTel

7 жыл бұрын

Cheers! :-)

@MrPCSniperFi

6 жыл бұрын

Jeroen, How the hell did you push that beautiful SID chip to the maximum like that, and THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE THREE CHANNELS?! Well...you are a legend. You probably set many SID chips on fire with this one!

@JeroenTel

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, man!

Это кайф моего детства. Ещё на кассеты записывал и в дешманском плеере слушал. Ностальжи.

@MichaBiskupski-dh5cr

7 ай бұрын

etolodka

12.05.2023 кайфую до слез от этого музона❤

Oooh! I love seeing 8-bit channels split up like this! It gives you a great view of how the composer managed to put such a relatively advanced track onto only three channels, and what waveforms was used. Thanks for this video! :D

Ever since I saw oscilloscope view of Commando on The 8bit Guy I’m fascinated by these videos and what they could achieve on the C64 back in the days.

One of the best music pieces of the whole 20th century. Period.

This one is legitimately great!

im an atari guy but i literally cant stop listening to this song. jaroen tel is a !legend!!

this has to be one of my favorite tunes. its so funky

Gotta say, I love all of Jeroen Tel's music.

@JeroenTel

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, but then... you clearly haven't heard all of it, yet. (Haha). (kidding). =)

Better than sex, by a mile.

still coming back to this jam

I'll be the first to admit I don't know how to program stuff like this from a hole in the ground, but I do have an ear for music, and this is absolutely fantastic. Jeroen Tel, if you haven't already you need to get into instrumental music. As 8-bit as this is, it's a masterpiece.

@JeroenTel

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you, SoapTF2, what a nice compliment. I have moved on to many different platforms and whatnot. Just search around. Most noticeable would be "C64 Orchestra" and of course my pop-act with Tess Fries as "Tess & Tel".

Had not heard this one. Very impressive.

This is actually the first time I'm listening this, and oh god, THIS IS TOO AWESOME, ITS STUCK IN MY HEAD NOW, HELP

ring modulation is so underappreciated

@JeroenTel

6 жыл бұрын

Not from where I'm standing it's not! :-)

Rolf have you tried capturing in 60fps and upload it on youtube; I bet it would look as good as a real oscilloscope.

Dat melody! Eargasm!

Jereon Tel really managed to get that bass that thumping base in much of his music which I think was fairly revolutionary

2:22 sounds like a sick guitar solo. Glad Elvind Sommersten recreated the exact vibe in his remix.

One of my most favorite chiptunes. I really like this kind of visualization.

LOVE IT! LOVE IT! LOVE IT! .. such a masterpiece.. one of the best SIDs period (so one of the best of the best in other words)

The best version of Robocop 3 in my opinion.

one of my favourite chiptune songs :)

jeroen tel''legend''. Great work, love the soundtrack to alien 3 ''nes'' also.

I've always held this is the best song on the NES

Who else used to load up Robocop 3 on the C64 just to hear this on the loading screen?

The best video game music ever! Jeroen Tel is the best music composer!

I can't stop loving this theme for such an amazing hero and his game. Robocop. Who is he? What is he?

rolling down the street in my katamari

OMG! It's nostalgical music.

Love the oscilloscope

Just incredible. And groovy as hell.

Love that funky bass line!

IN THE BEGINNING OF A STREAM, BUT SOMEONE RAIDED THE STREAM. NOW IT IS THE TIME TO FIGHT BACK.

@dootdagame

3 жыл бұрын

protonjon

One of my favorite SIDs ever. My favorite remix of this one is the classic Lagerfeldt version.

Jeroen Tel is a genius

One could fit the Basil Poledouris theme using this as a basis and it would work like a charm.

That SID chip still amazes me! 😁

In the top ten best sid tunes, ever!.

That bassline is amazing!

Sent here by JBueno, awesome!

PURE (SID) GENIUS...

Almighty 64 shoe beating!

Man them square waves are ROTATED

This is so damn good.

well now I'm in love with this and I can't help it it's so freaking good, like, literally how-

Man, that fucking bassline.

Enough fighting. This is what true power feels like!

Красиво слушается - красиво смотрится.

wow! wonderful!

@user-dy7dx7sd6o

6 жыл бұрын

Дмитрий Павлов ты русский

This is so good IM SHOOK!!!!

timeless sid!

Definitely my favourite SID tune.

The AVGN loves the NES theme, so I wonder how much more he would like the C64 theme.

a masterpiece

It's interesting that the filter resonance is permanently active on all 3 channels. Which is the reason why the song is completely distorted on my R3 6581 installed in my SX64...

@vuurniacsquarewave5091

8 жыл бұрын

+porcorosso81 One interesting effect that could've been done this way is an effect to simulate being underwater or something like that by applying strong low-pass to the entire song if you had gone underwater.

Awesome 👑👑👑👑

Gänsehaut, oh wie geil

how the hell did he do the low noise in the bottom bar from 0:21 to 0:52 amazes me.

@tardistardis8

7 жыл бұрын

Shaun Zafar The SID chip had the ability to play multiple sorts of waves on a single track.

@PeterLawrenceYT

7 жыл бұрын

That's a triangle wave being ring modulated.

@tardistardis8

7 жыл бұрын

Peter Lawrence Oh.

@JeroenTel

7 жыл бұрын

The SID chip is a mystery... it can do so much if you know how to program it. Ring modulation on all 3 channels is the most surprising effect.

@edwardjenkins5421

4 жыл бұрын

Is that why all the square waves look like they have sine waves on them?

Bass 🔥

I love that this looks like an Electrocardiogram, the middle channel sort of looks like a patient having a myocardial infarction.

epic!

Ooo))) Nostalgie)))

Hah! Eat that NES!

@esmooth919

6 жыл бұрын

I beg to differ. The Baseline on the NES version was funkier than this

@robintst

6 жыл бұрын

I mean, for what it was, the NES did a respectable job with this song.

@TheSuperPlayer707

5 жыл бұрын

The SID is abysmally superior than the NES sound chip, someone can make crazy things with that sound chip!

@laurent64

5 жыл бұрын

Indeed dear NES, eat that ADSR envelope, that hard-synchronization and that hi-res pulse modulation :) SID Rulez !

@damienlobb85

5 жыл бұрын

Sorry but the C64 SID clearly can do more with less channels. Flexibility counts. And the reason you like the NES version is purely subjective. Simply being more funky doesn't make it better.

Fucking kicking track!

sounds like the high pass filter was used here interesting, wonder what it would have sounded like with the low pass filter instead? this is an epic tune

Echos at the start are fucken smart.

Track of my childhood, dark n almost empty room, only me in front of fat tv)

what a peak moment from 1:45 till 1:53 !

1:37 to 1:52 is pure nirvana

@allan.n.7227

5 жыл бұрын

Princess Crabcrotch agree.. truly awesome

I'm curious about the waveforms here - like the melodic parts look like square waves but with a curve to it. Is this the result of filtering? (High-pass filter leaving a lower-frequency harmonic out?) I like seeing the waveforms so I can relate what I'm hearing to how the sound was made - see the pulse widths change or instruments switch waveforms to produce different parts of the sound... but there's a lot I still don't quite get.

are there any oscilloscope vids of the theme for the first robocop game? it's godly (this is too but still)

Jeroen Tel (along with Follin, Hubbard, Galway and others) - mark of a genius - when less gifted composers would think, "that will do, it's good enough" the elite just keep layering on more and more tricks, surprises and flourishes like it's totally effortless. B*stard! :-) :-)

I'm not alone!)))

Although I had the ZX spectrum by the time, I recognize that this version is way better... so epic... Awesome....

Да, пиздец! Музыка 8 бит уносит в детство

Power of SID

I feel like I'm on another planet...

Spiel sch..... MSX fantastisch!!!

"COME QUIETLY OR THERE WILL BE TROUBLE"

I liked on 999th like so lucky

1:49 epic twist