Add me to the club. I replaced my aux battery last weekend and the new one must have not been fully charged because both batteries were dead when I went to start it 6 days later. I couldn't even jump start it. I also tried jump starting it using the first post under fuse box, which supposedly jump starts the aux battery, but the engine sputtered and died as soon as I removed the jump start cables. So thanks to this video, I removed FUSE 42 and the negative aux cable and it worked like a charm. It jump started right up and kept running after removing jump start cables. It appears the main battery is now able to recharge as it restarted after running for only a few minutes. This video was a lifesaver. Thank you for posting and for the helpful comments below.

@otroverland

4 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful.

Ran into this same issue while playing in Colorado. I pulled the neg cable, pulled the fuse and no more issues. After we got back, i pulled the passenger tire an wheel well cover and removed the battery completely, also taped up all the cables. No issues since then and it been 5 months.

2018 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Sport V6 Followed the steps and no more A-light! Only issue I ran into was my terminal cables were switched compared to your video, but I just had to swap the terminal cables around and it worked out just fine. Thank you so much for a great video!

@otroverland

5 ай бұрын

You're welcome. Glad it worked out for you. I've heard depending on make and model, you may have to swap the negative cables. Working on a way to update the video to mention that.

Great video. Informative, quick and to the point. Not like these other fools who make a 50 min video on how to add windshield fluid. Thank you brotha.

@otroverland

9 ай бұрын

Thanks. Much appreciated.

@sweetwillywine5920

8 ай бұрын

Thank you for the video!!! You would think there should be a recall on this no???!!!

@ronaldrice1781

Ай бұрын

What you did not say is that ESS is still going to work. Just not off of your accessory battery. It will run off of main battery

So I decided to give it a shot, got a 2018 JLU and like everyone else was saying it's the other cable that needed to be removed. So I tried that at first, started the Jeep, and light and warning still came on. So I disconnected the other cable and tried it, but got nothing at all, reconnected the first one and low and behold the warning light doesn't come on now! Thank you!

@otroverland

7 ай бұрын

Glad it worked!

The Auto Start/Stop dash light came on in my 2022 JL with under 10,000 miles. This simple workaround handled it perfectly!

@otroverland

7 ай бұрын

Awesome! Glad it helped.

Wow! You are the man! I’m having the exact same issue, with my 2020 Jeep Gladiator Rubicon (37000 mi). I Just replaced my main battery yesterday ($275) and then noticed the A with the circle and exclamation point! I’m going to try this, first thing tomorrow morning! Bye F 42! Aloha!

It worked on my 2020 JL! That said, it was with the end that you taped not the one that was reconnected back to the battery. Thanks OTR Overland.

@otroverland

8 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful.

Awesome vid and instructions! We hate stop/start for various reasons everyone else does, and as soon as I get home this will be done! Thanks OTR

@otroverland

6 ай бұрын

Thanks! Much appreciated. I mentioned this in the description, but depending on make and model, you my have to swap which negative terminal to disconnect. Try it the way I did in the video. If the Jeep won't start, just swap the negative terminals and you should be good to go.

@robertzimmerman3980

5 ай бұрын

Swap the negative cables to where?

Great Video 👍 Great Info 👍 Straight to the point. I'm doing this today !!

@otroverland

8 ай бұрын

Thanks!

Woooohooooo! Thank you so much! 😆🙏🏼The answer to my headache! Currently having, this exact issue, with my 2020 Jeep Gladiator Rubicon (37000 mi) I already, installed a new main battery yesterday ($275) and having the A with the circle and exclamation point 😢notification! I’m doing this , first thing , tomorrow morning! 🥳🙌🏼💟you are the man! 🐶🤙🏽 bye 👋🏼 F42!😂🤣

Best Explanation yet. My Rubicon has only one battery with the 2.0 Turbo.

@otroverland

2 ай бұрын

Thanks.

Just did it last weekend. Saved money again.

@otroverland

8 ай бұрын

Awesome! Glad the video was helpful.

108*? Wow. That’s crazy. Great video. Thank you.

@otroverland

3 ай бұрын

Yeah. That's just a normal Tuesday in Arizona in the summer. 😁

Thank you for the information and the video. I am now encountering similar problems with my 2019 Jeep Wrangler Sport. I will be trying this sometime today or tomorrow.

@otroverland

2 ай бұрын

Good luck!

Thank you for helping me out. This is Thomas

@otroverland

8 ай бұрын

Happy to help

Best video! No windbags just talking!!!

@otroverland

5 ай бұрын

Thanks! Much appreciated.

My experience: Got in, attempted to start my 2021 JT Mojave, it would not start, nor turnover, no clicking, just some extra dash lights (check engine, and collision avoidance - associated with ACC system). Problem was a dead (10.5V) battery, and the blessing was that it was in my driveway & I wasn't stranded somewhere less safe, thanks to my wife's car as a backup. And, as with any unknown mechanical or "how to" issue, I came to KZread. What did we ever do before YT? LOL! So, apparently my AUX battery died, and eventually my main battery was taken down by the AUX. No warning. I hadn't turned on my Start/Stop switch lately, and that would've been a clue if I had noticed it not working. The batteries would've been covered by the 3/36 warranty, but I was at 37K when they died. How convenient, Mopar! So, I pulled the F42 fuse, tied off the same ground cable as illustrated in this video, installed a new main battery, and everything is back to normal, except I no longer have an operational ESS system. I'll eventually yank out the dead AUX battery, but good to go for now. Thanks!

@otroverland

3 ай бұрын

Glad the video was helpful. Thanks!

@carpathia3882

3 ай бұрын

This just happened to me today. So what functionality did we lose? Is it just the auto start stop? I mean, I imagine the push to start still works correct?

@gs98999

3 ай бұрын

@@carpathia3882auto stop start should still work off the main battery now. No functionality is lost.

Thank you. Enjoy your videos.

@otroverland

8 ай бұрын

Glad you like them!

Thanks for de vid. Mine is a 2020 jl and I had ti connect the other cable and tape up the one without the terminal screw.

@TheRR4LIFE

9 ай бұрын

Me too

@otroverland

8 ай бұрын

Yeah. I've heard a number of people say that. I first tried the other cable and it didn't work, so I switched and that's what worked for me. I think it varies based on model and year.

@otroverland

8 ай бұрын

I updated the video and added a note to let people know they might have to try the other cable. Thanks again for the feedback

Great, easy to follow DIY that will come in handy for most Jeep Wrangler owners. THANKS!!! but, sheesh! 108º?!!! A bit warm, eh?

@otroverland

6 ай бұрын

LOL. Right!? Welcome to Arizona.

21 and newer the aux cable is the one with the tab, and extra post, that you ended up taking off. Prior years it was the easier, first one, you removed. Either way it should be the smaller of the two although I find it hard to tell. I just did this today on my 21 JLU.

@otroverland

6 ай бұрын

Thanks for the info. I've had people mention they had to switch it. I updated the description a while back to let people know, but I didn't know for sure the years. Thanks for that.

I have a 2019 Wrangler Rubicon with the original aux battery. Yeah, it's long-in -the-tooth and is having issues. The process of replacing it shows how poorly FCA put thought on location for easier access. I'm going to try to bypass that battery per your instructions. Otherwise, it's going to be a chore either removing the fender guard or going-in from the engine compartment (and tearing apart the fuse box). Either option... I don't look forward too. Thanks for your handy hack!!!

@otroverland

6 ай бұрын

Thanks! Take note. Depending on Model and Year, you may need to swap which negative cable you reconnect. Try it the way I've done in the video. If the Jeep won't start, simply swap the negative battery cable connected to the battery.

2019 JL. Pulled the fuse and the cable - and everything was dead. Put the cable back and fuse - everything was as it was with the warning light back on. Pulled just the fuse and no more warning light. Seems on some models the Aux battery handles a little something extra and not just the start stop. On others it seems it just the start stop. Removing the fuse only fixed the error message. So I am happy.

@otroverland

26 күн бұрын

You can try swapping the negative battery cables you disconnect. I've learned it varies based on make and model.

@stefankruger1057

24 күн бұрын

@@otroverland I that a few days ago, forgot to do an update here. Yea- so for mine it was the other cable that connects to the Aux Battery. I also disabled the stop start using the pin under the hood trick.

Great video and instructions. I have a 2020 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Sport and performed the procedure. I drove the vehicle for a couple of hours and the ESS engaged when I came to a stop. Am I missing something. I have 3 other JL's and am going to perform the same procedure and see what happens.

@otroverland

5 күн бұрын

I believe it works for some. You may have to get a Tazer Mini. That will disable it

I feel your pain... good video

@otroverland

7 ай бұрын

Thanks!

Thanks. Good vid

@otroverland

6 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

I just disconnected the wiring harness on the switch under the hood. Put electrical tape over light on dash.

I did it last evening & there is no error sign on my speedometer for auxiliary battery. Thank you But the msg comes up, auxiliaries not working battery charging, is it ok?

I did it last evening & there is no error sign on my speedometer for auxiliary battery. Thank you But the msg comes up, auxiliaries not working battery charging, is it ok? 4:34

Thank you so much

@otroverland

7 ай бұрын

Any time

Thanks for the great video! I always punch the A button on the dash to disable the start/stop. If I remove the fuse and bypass the battery without using a a taser or other bypass module, what will happen? My guess is the start/stop won’t click on at idle and I won’t need to press the button to disable it? I’m just concerned that it will cause some other electrical issue in the jeep. Thanks!

@jimmc2990

5 ай бұрын

@@egman5225 ah so the auto start/stop still kicks in but won’t run off the aux battery. Got it. Thank you!

Got a 2019 JL and the A sign appear like one month ago but yesterday my main battery was dead and I charged it and I did this but I didn’t function so I connected the other cable the one you tape up and it started but my amp it’s at 13.8

@otroverland

8 ай бұрын

Thanks for the update. I've heard from a few other people that they had to connect the other cable. I added a note to the video.

damn I wish I had mileage :) Thanks for this video!

@otroverland

3 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful.

It works nice with a stick. Pull up to a light in neutral, let out the clutch. When you are ready to go press the clutch, shift into gear and go.

@otroverland

2 ай бұрын

Good tip!

Thank you for the simple explanation I'm thinking about this but I'm very cautious I know it's been 9 months since you've made this video how's everything working out so far did you have to put a larger amperage battery in just to make up for the auxiliary battery?

@otroverland

5 күн бұрын

I didn't catch it in time. The aux battery leeched power from my main battery and dropped the voltage on the main too low. So I did have to replace my main. Since then its been fine without the aux battery. And I just got the Ecoflow 800W charger which pulls power from the main. It's all been working great.

@timcapuchino3563

4 күн бұрын

@@otroverland why did Jeep mess with a good system?

Good video . At a Jeep dealership, it does VOID any warranty.

@otroverland

5 ай бұрын

Yup. That's why I suggest making it easy to reattach if you need to go to a dealer.

I did this today and replaced the main battery as it tested bad also. I pulled fuse 42 and Jeep started right up, but my A/C went crazy. If would only blow hot air and I could not change the temperature settings. I replaced the fuse and everything worked, but the error icon came back on for auto-start.

@otroverland

8 ай бұрын

I'd say make sure you pulled the correct fuse and confirm it's for the auto start stop. I haven't heard anyone else mention it, but it may not be fuse 42 on your make and model.

@bw4524

2 ай бұрын

Just tried this. 2020 JL. Yes, it's the opposite cable as others have mentioned. Pulled Fuse 42 and the AC is frozen on LO temp and won't change.

Thanks for sharing.

@otroverland

2 ай бұрын

Thank you!

So, after watching this, I decoded to do the same to my 2021 Mohave. 1) Pulled F42 fuse and 2) removed the ground as you have done. The auto stop-start is now disabled, however, I still get the warning that the auto stop-start function is not working and then get the yellow A. I saw where some have said to remove a plug that connects to the ground. That made no difference either. I've watched this and another similar video multiple times to see if I am missing something. Checked and rechecked that I pulled the correct fuse.

@otroverland

8 ай бұрын

Hmm. I'm not sure if the Mojaves are different. I do know they have a number of parts that are not compatible with aftermarket parts for other Gladiators, so this may be the same thing. Honestly not sure. Try connecting the other ground and see if that works. That has worked for a number of people.

@chokabardas

6 ай бұрын

Go to auto zone if you don’t have a tazer and have them clear your DTCs. I had to reset it on my jt but I have a tazer so I just did it from the dash.

@jackiebeene9609

6 ай бұрын

@@chokabardas I have a scanner. No codes.

@chokabardas

6 ай бұрын

I didn’t have any codes either I just selected clear anyways and restarted the Jeep and it went away. Might be different on the tazers

@jackiebeene9609

6 ай бұрын

@@chokabardas Thanks for the tip. I will try this. I have the bypass labels and everything else.

Great video, thank you. Curious what year is your Gladiator? I have a 2020, unsure which negative to tape off.

@otroverland

6 ай бұрын

Mine is a 2021. Try one. If it won't start, then swap to the other. That's what I had to do.

@williamwalsh3882

6 ай бұрын

@@otroverland , just closing the loop. For a 2020, the smaller of the two negative cables worked like a charm. Thanks again. Although not necessary, next step is a TaZer mini to finish the cosmetics (lit button on all the time) along with other great benefits. Thanks again.

Thank you for the video, however I have the light on and I remove the fuse 42 and disconnected the terminal and the light still on I need help!!!

@otroverland

6 ай бұрын

I'd say double check you pulled the correct fuse.

I too have a 21 Gladiator same plain end neg cable removed F42 10amp fuse . Now my ESS auto start works again without F42 and without ground cable Must be a ghost under my hood.

@otroverland

Ай бұрын

If you get a Tazer Mini it'll definitely disable it

Did you make any adjustments to fit the larger lug hole over the smaller bolt where the aux ground had been?

@otroverland

4 ай бұрын

No. I didn't need to make modifications.

How do I know which of the 2 negstives I have to disconnect, in other videos it mentions that it is the other cable, mine is a 2020 sport s

@otroverland

4 ай бұрын

It does vary on make and model. I have a 2021 Sport S. Someone mentioned the 2020s are swapped. So try the other negative cable.

can this be done without the taser? my batteries just died after ESS having issues, so I'm hoping I can just pull out f42 and re-attach those black cables? Then replace main battery and be good to go?

@otroverland

3 ай бұрын

Yes . It should work. And depending on make and model, you may have to swap which negative cable to pull. Try it the way I did it in the video.If the Jeep won't start, swap the negative battery cables. Also, if the aux battery has been on its way out, it'll pull power from the main battery and shorten its life too. So I'd say give this a try and see. It's only takes a couple of minutes.

A silly question, but what is the auxiliary battery negative cable bc I ‘ve seen other videos where people disconnect a different from yours?

@otroverland

Ай бұрын

There are 2 negative battery cables. One that connects to the main battery negative terminal and one that connects the aux battery negative to the main battery negative terminal. Depending on make, model, and year of the Jeep,you may have to swap which one you disconnect. The first time I tried this, I disconnected the other cable and my Jeep wouldn't start, so I swapped and disconnected the other and it worked.

Question maybe u can help me. My auxiliary battery went out so I changed it a few days the later the light came on so I change the main battery. The light still on. Do you think it’s OK for me to do what you did in this video just to get the light to go off?

@otroverland

21 күн бұрын

I'd suggest if you replaced both and still have the warning light on to get it looked at. I'd say maybe it's still hanging onto to error code, but the time you took to replace the main battery should have cleared that code. You can go to an AutoZone and they will run a free diagnostic. So at a minimum, you can get the error codes it's throwing.

Wish I had watched yours first.

@otroverland

8 ай бұрын

Good luck. I hope you get it fixed.

On my 2020 gladiator it's the other terminal not the one you taped up, for some reason.

@otroverland

4 ай бұрын

I found out it varies by make and model.

I have 21, tried as shown didn't work. Watched again tried reversing grounds, nothing , wouldn't start, like dead battery. Tried again connecting plain end cable, WORKED!, Will tape up cable with stud, and cross fingers it will continue to work.

@otroverland

Ай бұрын

Yeah. Depending on make and model, you may have switch them.

@johnsilver7150

Ай бұрын

I too have a 21 Gladiator same plain end neg cable removed F42 10amp fuse . Now my ESS auto start works again without F42 and without ground cable Must be a ghost under my hood.

For some reason my jeep wouldn’t start after doing this. When I put the fuse back in and then put the aux battery back on everything worked… like the auto stop/start resumed working and hadn’t for about a month

@otroverland

Ай бұрын

Try swapping the negative battery cables. Same thing happened on mine. Depending on make and model, you may have to swap them. If your aux battery is on its way out, it can damage your main battery and that's expensive to replace.

Mine is 2018 JL. Pulled the fuse and battery cable. The dash light is still lit. did I pull the wrong cable?

@otroverland

4 ай бұрын

It varies by make and model. Try swapping the negative cables

Would that work on a 2018 JL? I had to replace my aux battery like 2 years ago. It's starting to tell me my something or other is shut down and the battery is charging.

@otroverland

6 ай бұрын

It should work on a 2018. I've just started getting warning saying Aux switches temporarily disabled. After some research it looks like my main battery needs to be replaced.

Hey man..I have a problem with my 20 jeep wrangler jl that it will crank for like a minute but it won't start..I replaced both batteries about 3 weeks ago and yesterday let me stranded at a busy intersection..I towed it back home and is still cranking but not starting..it only has 30000 miles on it ...any suggestions will be greatly appreciated..thanks for all your help

@otroverland

5 ай бұрын

If it's cranking, but won't start, it's probably a fuel issue. Not getting enough gas. Make sure you don't have a clogged injector. Also, if its getting some gas and you crank it that long, it'll flood the engine and also won't start. Basically it's gonna be gas, air, and or spark. Check your plugs, air filter, and injectors.

have a 2018 jl wrangler.did exactly like in this video.but had no power when i did it

@otroverland

2 ай бұрын

Try swapping the negative battery cables.

What would happen if I just take out the fuse and leave the battery connected

@otroverland

7 ай бұрын

Honestly, not 100% sure, but I think you run the risk of the aux battery damaging your main battery. If the aux battery starts to die, it'll leach power from the main. I've heard of many instances where people have had to replace both when the aux battery was the cause. So I'd suggest just playing it safe and disconnecting the aux battery cable.

So after all would the start stop function work again or that is gonna deactivate it ?

@otroverland

Ай бұрын

I don't think it will disable the start stop function. I believe you need something like the Tazer Mini to do that. This video is if you've got the warning light.

if you leave the positive cable connected to the aux battery can it still draw your main battery down?

@otroverland

2 ай бұрын

Yes. I believe so. I'd disconnect it to be safe. If the aux battery keeps drawing down power on the main, it'll reduce the lifespan of the main.

If you have to go back to the dealer and connect it back..would the chances be high that the aux battery is dead?

@otroverland

6 ай бұрын

I think it depends on how fast people do the bypass and how long the aux battery sits.

So I did this and the start stop is still active. Does this just bypass the aux battery to save my main battery? But I still have to push the button every time I start the car. Or should this just turn off the start stop feature all together? I have a 2022 gladiator rubicon.

@otroverland

4 ай бұрын

My understanding is that pulling the fuse disabled the start/stop. But I've heard other people mention what you're seeing. I've got a Taser, so I can't really test it beyond what others have said.

@toolstechandtoys5910

4 ай бұрын

@@otroverland yeah, I’m gonna have to get the tazer or the ss eliminator

I have the Taser mini installed on my 21 Rubicon. I just replaced both batteries and now I have the service start stop message. Any ideas why. Thanks in Advance.

@larshamilton40

7 ай бұрын

same here, replaced both battteries in Nov, this morning the 'aux not available' popped up on the startup screen again..taking it to my local 4x4 shop next week for a diagnostic test. Not taking it to the dealership, they are worthless and charge way to much..mechanic at the shop recommended NOT disconnecting the aux battery/removing fuses, said it would lead to other issues.. i thought the tazer would have solved / prevented this issue...?

@oxouk

7 ай бұрын

@@larshamilton40 I did some research on the taser website. It states to do “full reboot”, then complete two lock out cycles. If you have a manual and upped tire size in the taser, you have to perform a 30 second drive in 6th gear. The instructions are more detailed obviously. I’ll try it this weekend. I’m with you on not disconnecting fuses, battery etc… I want everything to be right.

@otroverland

7 ай бұрын

Yup. I was going to suggest doing the full reboot sequence. It's takes a hot minute to complete, but usually fixes the issue.

@oxouk

6 ай бұрын

Ok so I fixed it. I got the start stop warning after changing both batteries. Turns out, all I had to do was go through the Taser mini menu and clear all my DTC codes, then full reboot. No more start stop service message.

just did it, it works with the other cable not the one you used. woking fine no error sign till now thanks.

@rheopr

9 ай бұрын

Thank you for tour comment I was about to give up.

@Ibrahim99990

9 ай бұрын

@@rheopr you're welcome, start/stop and remote start not working. i ended up removing the small battery and connecting the positive to main battery, tape up negative and remove F42.

@Huntermaass712

9 ай бұрын

@@Ibrahim99990 does your remote start still work?

@Ibrahim99990

9 ай бұрын

@@Huntermaass712 yes, when i pulled out F42

@otroverland

8 ай бұрын

Thanks for the feedback. I added a note to the video letting people know they might have to try the other cable.

I did exactly what you did and then every time I went to start the truck the first button press it just clunked and I had to press it again a second time to get it to start. Eventually my truck wouldn't start even with a brand new battery.

@otroverland

6 ай бұрын

Depending on make and model, you may need to connect the other negative battery terminal. The first time I did it, I connected the other terminal and had no power. Truck wouldn't turn over at all. So the fact that yours is starting isn't something I've heard from others. I'd say first, check today make sure you've got a secure connection. If so, the I'd say try swapping the negative cables and see what happens. If it starts right up, then you can should be good to go. If it doesn't start at all, then you were right the first time, but you may have something else going on.

If you by pass the aux battery do you lose the remote start??TIA

@otroverland

8 ай бұрын

The remote start still works just fine without the aux battery.

Would using a OBD and turning off the auto start stop work that way?

@otroverland

9 ай бұрын

I've got the Taser JL Mini which disables stop start, but the Jeep still uses the aux battery to start the vehicle. Bypassing it forces the Jeep to use the main battery.

@Westcoastrocksduh

9 ай бұрын

@@otroverland thanks!

Hi, thank you for the video I took out the 42 fuse and I disconnected the correct wire from the battery but I’m still getting the warning light on the dashboard. Any thoughts? Thank you.

@sweetwillywine5920

8 ай бұрын

And that is on a 2020 jeep Wrangler sport

@otroverland

8 ай бұрын

Try swapping the negative cable. Some people have found that the cables are reversed on the ir make and model.

@sweetwillywine5920

8 ай бұрын

Thanks. But I believe if it was the wrong cable the Jeep wouldn’t start 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

@dmennenoh

6 ай бұрын

@@sweetwillywine5920 Correct. If you still get the light it's likely the aux battery has already killed the main. On a 2020 it's the first cable he removed, on 21 and later it's the on with the tab and extra post.

@sweetwillywine5920

6 ай бұрын

I found out you have to disconnect the main battery terminal also for 10 minutes or so then hooked it back up and no light on dashboard. Or A button 👍

I have a 2020 Jeep Wrangler Sport. I tried your fix and it just plain don't work. I've switched the both cables and I know I've disconnected the right one and I know I pulled the right fuse and it still don't work. Too bad because it sounds like a great fix and there are probably 10 more KZread videos describing the same one

@otroverland

6 ай бұрын

Sorry it didn't work for you.

I just did this and the auto start/stop message still comes on, along with the A on the dash. Any suggestions? 2018 Sport. I noticed someone mentioned they had to switch the black terminal and use the other one than you did in the video. I tried this but the lights are still on.

@otroverland

2 ай бұрын

Hmm. I was going to suggest swapping the negative battery cables too. It might be that the aux battery took down your main. That can happen

@TimAugustyniak

2 ай бұрын

@@otroverlandI have a Tazer JL and have the start/stop disabled. I was just trying to get the error message to go away, which I never had before. I ended up clearing the DTC with the taser and it went away.

Will the stop start still work even if the fuse is pulled and the negative cable is removed

@otroverland

7 ай бұрын

No, the start/stop won't work after you pull the fuse and negative battery terminal.

I noticed that the ambient temperature went from 86 (before) to 108 (after). How did that happen?

@otroverland

8 ай бұрын

I live in Arizona. 😅

@scottanderson5290

8 ай бұрын

@otroverland so the temp increase of 22deg happened in the time that you took to do this? I'm just curious I've never seen a jump like that but then again I live in the upper Midwest.

Does anyone know what is all connected to the aux battery?

@otroverland

6 ай бұрын

I believe it just used for start/stop

I take the fuse f42 out, and the black cable still has the light on the dashboard

@otroverland

8 ай бұрын

I'd suggest checking your main battery then. If the aux battery goes or is on its way out, it can take out the main battery as well.

So this worked for me. The light went away and everything seemed to work fine and then a couple days later the error message came back on. How is that even possible? Does it matter? I'm so confused now

@otroverland

6 ай бұрын

Are you running a Tazer? If so , try a full reboot sequence.

@23ecoffey

6 ай бұрын

@@otroverland no

Do you think this would work on a ‘18 compass?

@otroverland

6 ай бұрын

I'm honestly not sure. It's a different engine, so I would guess no.

Why do you have to remove the neg wire? The aux battery only has two wires. Pulling one removes it from the circuit.

@otroverland

4 ай бұрын

The negative wire to the aux battery is easier to access. Otherwise, you might as well just remove the aux battery entirely.

@roymoon1

4 ай бұрын

Viking Off-road just gave some new info about the need for the aux battery (running fan at stop light). I posted back with precautionary info. The whole thing is starting to make sense now. @@otroverland

Is it really 108 degrees outside when you start up your jeep or is your thermometer way off like mine

@otroverland

Күн бұрын

Yeah. It really is 108. That's just a normal summer day in Arizona I'm afraid.

Just tried this and had no power. I️ did put everything back the way it was but did leave the fuse out. Now the light is gone but wondering if that’s okay?

@otroverland

8 ай бұрын

Try connecting the other negative cable. A number of people have said they had to connect the other cable to get it to work for them.

@michaellincoln1700

8 ай бұрын

@@otroverland that seem to do the trick thank you. Do I still have to make sure I turn off the auto start when I start the truck still?

@otroverland

8 ай бұрын

@@michaellincoln1700Nope. You shouldn't have to worry about the switch anymore. Removing the negative battery cable comping from the aux battery and pulling the fuse disables the auto start/stop. The switch will still turn on/off on your dash, but it won't do anything.

@michaellincoln1700

8 ай бұрын

@@otroverland thanks so much for the help!

OK so this is weird. I had the same issue on my gladiator. Pulled the F42 fuse and took off the negative cable post. What is strange is that in your video the terminal with the long post was taped up and put aside. I followed your video exactly and got NO power to my truck. I tried swapping the other cable and I have power and no indicator light.

@otroverland

8 ай бұрын

I've heard a couple people say the same thing. I think it might vary based on model year. I actually first tried the other cable and it did what you experienced. So I switched it with the long post and that's what worked for me.

@michaellincoln1700

8 ай бұрын

Just tried this and had no power. Put everything back and just left the fuse out. The light is gone now. Is that okay?

@otroverland

8 ай бұрын

I updated the video and added a note to let people know they might have to try the other cable. Thanks again for the feedback.

@dmennenoh

6 ай бұрын

You have a pre 2021 Gladiator is all.

So I did that exact same thing and my jeep still shuts off at the stop lights and restarts?

@otroverland

2 ай бұрын

I've got the Tazer Mini. Totally worth the investment. It disables the start stop and has a ton of other great features

I try to do the same thing on my 2020 jl but the jeep doesn't have a power if i disconnect the wire 🤔🤔🤔

@otroverland

6 ай бұрын

Swap the negative cables. Depending on model year, you may have to swap the cables.

@ozkarjf563

6 ай бұрын

Same thing

I tried this on my 2019 Jeep Wrangler and it will not start at all. Any advice?

@otroverland

5 күн бұрын

Swap the negative battery cables. Same thing happened to me. It varies on make and model.

I completed the process and the auto stop error light is now gone.....Good news. Now I am having a strange issue with the climate control. The Auto feature on the climate control does not function properly. Any ideas?

@otroverland

6 ай бұрын

I'm afraid I haven't heard of that issue before. Are you also using a Tazer? If so, I'd suggest a full reboot sequence and see if that fixes things.

My wrangler jL the ground wire is on the side

@otroverland

7 ай бұрын

Yeah. I've tried to note in the description that you may have to swap the ground wire depending on make and model.

Do you need larger main battery or is the factory battery ok? Have a 2019 JL. Had the aux battery go bad and drain main once before but it will still under warranty so dealer replaced both. Now aux seems to be failing again so looking at this delete method. Just want to make sure we don’t need to replace main. Thanks.

@briandell3852

8 ай бұрын

I have a JLU 2019 also, did the same on this video. I have not had any issues but when the normal one starts to go, there is a little bracket in the tray you remove and you can go the larger H7 battery, I think those are in the jeeps with the tow package. I could be wrong....

@TeamVigil

8 ай бұрын

@@briandell3852thanks for the reply and good to know yours still worked on the regular battery.

@otroverland

8 ай бұрын

I've got the tow package with the larger battery. So it's good to know it's a simple upgrade.

what happens to the ESS functionality after this ?

@otroverland

9 ай бұрын

The auto stop/start functionIlty is disabled. By removing the fuse and aux battery cable, the Jeep simply bypasses the feature entirely. The warning light and message disappear and the auto start stop button in the cab still toggles, but does not function anymore.

@dmennenoh

6 ай бұрын

@@otroverland Actually it's not disabled. You still need a Tazer or SmartStopStart to disable it fully.

@russparker2102

6 ай бұрын

I made these changes today on my 2018 JL. It DOES remove the circle A warning light. It does not disable ESS. I suppose ESS now just utilizes the main battery.

@Skubyballsoffroad

6 ай бұрын

@@russparker2102same here. 2020 gladiator. Fuse is out and cable removed. Start/stop still happening. Fuuuuudge…

What is the point for the auto stop start system.What is the point in having it any way

@otroverland

4 ай бұрын

It was a mandate by the government to apparently improve fuel mileage and reduce CO2. They've found it doesn't actually do that, but the government hasn't changed their policy, so all newer cars have the 'feature.' Honestly, I think it just puts unneeded wear and tear on your engine.

@reginaldcarter5341

4 ай бұрын

I didn't know all new cars have that auto stop start system. I think it will put a lot of ware and tear on the starter motor.Every time you stop at a light the car turn off,and restart it.

I unhooked everything but when I go connect just the main it doesn’t turn on at all please advice

@otroverland

4 ай бұрын

Swap the negative battery cables. It varies based on make and model. If it wont start, just swap the negative cables and it should work.

@littlejoka

4 ай бұрын

@@otroverland I did but it seems like it doesn’t get any power with any

@garyzhu5714

3 ай бұрын

@@littlejoka maybe your main battery has been drained/fried already by the aux

@littlejoka

3 ай бұрын

@@garyzhu5714 yeah it was I had to replace the whole main battery but I was able to disconnect the aux now thank you.

I have a 2021 gladiator. Did not work. Warning light still came on.

@otroverland

4 ай бұрын

Check your main battery

@TimAugustyniak

2 ай бұрын

Did you ever figure it out? Same thing happened to me, light is still on. I have a tazer so the start stop is disabled, but I recently started getting the error message at startup.

any long term effects?

@otroverland

3 ай бұрын

Not that I have heard. I disabled start/stop with a Tazer almost immediately after buying the Jeep. That was 2 years and 40k miles. I've been rolling without an aux battery for about 8k with no problems.

The ESS still happens, so remember to push the ESS OFF button before driving.

@otroverland

3 ай бұрын

Yup. Thanks for the heads up. I've got the Tazer JL Mini so it's always disabled.

Still under factory warranty right? Why not just take it to the dealership for a free fix?

@otroverland

4 ай бұрын

I'm just saying you can put it back if need be.

So I did that. And the car doesn’t turn on at all.

@otroverland

4 ай бұрын

Swap negative cables. Depending on make and model, you may need to disconnect the other negative cable.

108 Degrees!!!! Just a word of caution, that Aux Battery is a Lithium and it will degrade over time. If it gets too low on voltage it will become damaged and could start swelling as the lithium breaks down. I fly FPV Quads and battery management of Lithium Batteries is a PITA....well my drone batteries are LiPo...maybe the Lithium Car batteries are not as prone to this issue?

@otroverland

4 ай бұрын

That's just a regular Tuesday in the summer here in Arizona. 😄 Thanks for the heads up though. I figure the car batteries are made to withstand the heat considering they are in the engine bay. I haven't heard of anyone having heat related issues. But I totally get where you are coming from. I plan on putting a secondary LiFePo4 battery mounted in the bed of my truck (in a custom enclosure) and I've been working out how to add fans and a thermostat to keep it cooler.

Sadly this did not fix the problem plus in my Rubicon it impacts other features. So I am just going to replace the battery. The Tazer takes care of turning off the start stop. Thanks for the video though.

@beegeedot

4 ай бұрын

Yup doesn’t take out mind warning light as well 21 Gladiator Rubicon 30k miles. Swapped both cable and unplugged f42 fuse. It doesn’t do anything I’m just going to buy a Tazer and replace the battery.

@otroverland

4 ай бұрын

Thanks. Sorry this didn't work for your Rubicon.

@otroverland

4 ай бұрын

Thanks for the info. I'll add that to the description.

I done this it’s didn’t work stills popped up

@otroverland

5 күн бұрын

Maybe try having it scanned at AutoZone to get the error codes and clear any old codes

108F....Dude, that's insanely hot lol

@otroverland

8 ай бұрын

😂 Yeah. Welcome to Arizona.

Don’t know why, but my check engine came on ?

@otroverland

5 ай бұрын

Looks like this is somewhat common on Jeeps after replacing or disconnecting the battery. Many said it cleared after a couple of days on its own. Or you could take it to Autozone to have them pull the code to see what it is and then fix or clear it.

Actually...if your main battery is still healthy, the stop start system will still activate.

@otroverland

10 ай бұрын

True. But if the Aux battery is on it's way out, it'll drain the main battery. Many have had to replace their main battery as well because the aux battery failing to charge damaged their main. And if the aux battery fails to hold any charge and is flat, the Jeep won't start, even if the main has a charge. So my suggestion is to take care of this issue right away before it causes any long term issues. It's obviously up to the individual if they choose to replace the aux battery, remove it entirely, or simply go with the bypass method I've outlined.

@erievon1

10 ай бұрын

@@otroverland agreed. Getting the aux battery out of the loop asap is a good thing. Just want people to not be surprised if their ess suddenly starts working after this mod.

@dmennenoh

6 ай бұрын

True, you want a Tazer or SmartStopStart to disable ESS entirely. I've had the SSS installed for three years now.

With a manual transmission, stupid ASS (Auto-Start-Stop) system is easy enough to avoid... In addition to all the other conditions that the automatics have, you also need to be stopped, have the transmission in neutral, and the clutch released...

@otroverland

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for the info!

@seanseoltoir

3 ай бұрын

@@otroverland -- When my main battery needed replacing, I replace it with the next size up and then disconnected the aux battery... That disabled the stupid ASS system, although it does leave a warning on the panel (which I can easily ignore)... I suspect that the reason that we have the ridiculous electro-hydraulic power steering pump either because of the ASS system or because they were making provisions for their "mild hybrid" model and forced it on those of us who choose REAL engines...