Bye for now, Pokemon Showdown
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My long, unedited, rambly, semi-ranty video about why I'm qutting Pokemon Showdown, until Gen 9 comes out. Enjoy my mindless Explosion team gameplay as I ramble (with extra super ironic moment of someone proving my point at the very end)
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You know what's the difference between you and other youtubers I follow? It's the fact I've always seen what you're talking about. You're more of a person than a youtuber. While I enjoy your content, whenever I watch other youtuber's stuff I'm like "ok cool, I enjoyed it", but whenever I watch your stuff I'm like "man, he's a cool dude, wish I could hang out with him". No need to stay here if you don't want to. Enjoy your life to the fullest! New meta can always wait, but only if the prophet is ready to speak about it.
Everyone needs to take a break from time to time, even from the things we like. Have a nice time and take care!
@Silverlugia1256
2 жыл бұрын
It also helps with skill level in game later so always a good idea yeah
I really miss seeing good old fashioned Let's Plays tbh. Like, no innate challenges, just exploring a game and sharing it with people. Closest I've seen to that lately is MDB's Let's Plays of the spinoff games like mystery dungeon and stadium.
I completely understand your frustrations of Generation 8. I'll be happy to still support you and whatever content you make. PS what's your favorite type of cookie
@TheGarbodors
2 жыл бұрын
Hmm, brownie cookies that are soft in the middle kinda.
@amberhernandez
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheGarbodors Soft in the middle, with crispy warm edges~
@cursedcat6467
2 жыл бұрын
@The Garbodors facts
@yourlocalraccoondealer8611
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheGarbodors Based pick, take care of yourself in the meantime fella.
@tatothelilpotato8075
Жыл бұрын
1 yeah good warm crispy edge brownies with a soft middle in the cold are amazing 2 tbh i also felt the same about gen8 it was stale but i enjoyed it climbing showdown ladders I do have high hopes though for gen9 S&V have a nice 1 :)
I don't blame you for leaving showdown, honestly. Gen 8 is a complete utter mess. Take all the time you need, dude!
@lordnatu
2 жыл бұрын
Gen 8 is one of the most fun gens imo
@jovamoment
2 жыл бұрын
@@lordnatu fr not a mess lol
@deidarassb3488
2 жыл бұрын
@@lordnatu hahahhahahahhahahahhahahahahsh
@andrewpaschall8992
2 жыл бұрын
@Fremzyx Honestly dude Gen8 is easily the worst gen for showdown and it's not necessarily showdowns fault
@PrismaAce
2 жыл бұрын
@Fremzyx literally all of the broken shit you listed are not in ou
Good decision. Showdown has been so stagnant that's I haven't played it in months. Maybe Gen 9 can stir things up a little bit.
@PeanutTechno
2 жыл бұрын
One of the worst things about it is that if you want to play below OU or Ubers, good luck even finding anyone. I think that's the main reason it's so stagnant.
@pauldesert2541
2 жыл бұрын
@@PeanutTechno ppl only play OU it seems
@elainehelmont4647
2 жыл бұрын
Same reason I quited pokemmo,being even worse cuz the meta is stagnated at gen 5
@goldenwolf5809
2 жыл бұрын
@@PeanutTechno I've actually had good luck in NU, but it's usually the same dozen people rotating throughout the day.
Much respect to you papa, I'll keep supporting you and your channel! Much love
Thank you for the content. I hope you enjoy your break from showdown and look forward to whatever you post
Thank you for everything my friend, your videos always cheered me in a very hard moment, and I will be so gratefull to found your channel. Hope that you find everything that makes you happy and hope that you won't lose your awesome scent.😄
I do have a recommendation for if/when you come back to Showdown. Try little cup, the power level is a lot lower, there's a lot of new meta potential, and stall isn't a viable strategy. Until then I think I speak for all of us when I say we appreciate the transparency of this video, and I'm excited to see what kind of new content you bring us papa
I'll keep supporting you and your channel papa
Thanks for giving us a nice long video to go out on. Enjoy your break. Hopefully once gen 9 hits and some mechanics switch up showdown will be less of a mess, and you can get back into it.
Papa, I have been following you for quite a while. You have brought me a lot of smiles, and I will continue to support you no matter what, or when you return. Take care, Papa, its important that you can enjoy what you are doing and I know that you haven't enjoyed Showdown for a while, as when you stsrted to play Dark Souls. Take care ❤
Merci pour cette vidéo. Tu as réussi à mettre des mots sur ce que je ressens également. On se revoit sur showdown dans 1 an, mais j'ai bien hâte de voir l'étendue de ton répertoire. 😉
Wish you all the best papa
Thank you Papa! You reignited my spark for pokemon when I started watching you so thank you very much for everything. Looking forward to the future should gen 9 be any good 😅 Good luck with your endeavors! :)
Thank you Papa for all with showdown for now!
Take care man thanks for the videos. Love your content.
Honestly I'd LOVE to see you playing some good TBoI and I would also really like hearing your music sutff, and I'm sure I'm not the only one :). Have a nice break, legend.
I love the premise of this team, basically just clear the way for one mon at the end. I'm trying it 🔥
Well, I always support you then. I absolutely know the feelings when playing Pokémon all of the time and it’s kind of boring… Just take time to have fun and take care of yourself. We’re The Garbodors and you’re always our Papa Garbodor:)) PS: I love your music 🎵
fair play, looking forward to whatever you do with your channel in the meantime bro
Wassup Garbo I knew this was coming soon due to the community post but I can understand your problems. Showdown content creating will definitely be not as fun as the good ole days and the views also don't correlate with the work put in ur vids. Well, at least in that time you're a showdown legend. Will deffo watch ur other content as well
Oh man more music content from you would be fantastic. You're an amazing and talented musician ♡
Will miss your content, and eagerly await your return. Your reasons are understandable and I hope your other content does well.
Man, i wasn't getting recommendations from you for a while, so i decided to check in
Totally agree with you. I haven't played showdown since last summer. I will more than happily watch whatever you make next
Papa Garbodors you are my favourite showdown youtuber, i enjoyed learning funny strats from you and You made me laught in a lot of ocassions, just wanna wish u a good break!!! And if you want to come back some day sure we will here to laugh again together!
I’ll miss you. I appreciate your content, and the community that follows it as well.
We'll miss you, but you do what makes you happy!
Blessings brother.
Scotts thoughts is a really good channel . Speed runs w weird pokemon. breaks down alot of info
Take whatever time you need away from the game. I remember getting really excited to see your dark souls runs, I saw a poll with binding of Issac once here, you mentioned cuphead, im always excited to see where his channel goes. I hope you find your break until gen 9 helpful.
I cant wait to see your new content once you return :)))
As they say, with a break makes the return all the sweeter. Take all the time you need dude, everyone deserves, and needs, a break sometimes, don't feel guilt over it in the slightest.
hope you have a good break
Much love, brother.
I may take a break too btw at least til gen 9 I would love to see just how powerful the thunder dragon and fighting Master will be with the abilities canceling out immunities to a super effective level they're already op
We love you papa. No matter what content you make
14:50 I love falling asleep to their videos, doesn't take long 🤣
Enjoy your break sir!
heya, cool that you made a video explaining everything in detail, i tots get yorur feelings and that's really fine, as long as youtube wasn't your job you shouldn't stick around if you dislike it which i very much get lul, every creator is complaining about youtube from time to time so i think the platform is just kinda going downhill tbh. ty for all the garbador vids, ill check the ones out i haven't yet seen and i'll be hoping to see you in a while :P, keep doing what you want to do, it'll help with mental sanity xD; ty for the entertainment and live a good life man ! much love and success - lambda viewer who was an avid watcher, not a sub :P
There was one video that stood out to me as really great. Like if I were to ask one question about Pokemon is, how to be the very best. There are contests in Gen 3/4... actually, forget that. The concept of AI playing Pokemon Showdown to get the highest win rate. Very informational, but not fully there yet. Only one or two main videos from one channel really sold the idea but it isn't fully developed on KZread in my opinion. For example, the type chart can have the Chain Rule applied to it, the probability of winning an Uber Match, how stats are distributed, battle calcs, etc. WolfeyVGC does fit the category but his thoughts are confined by the video given, some opinions, and a lot of basic stuff about the meta. If you could find a niche to make information about situational RNG in each game meta like pChal that would be just as fun to watch to me.
I always watched you for you and not the challenges. While the challenges were fun, it was your personality that kept me coming back. That’s why I loved the Dark Souls 3 videos. I was hoping you’d do an Elden Ring play through
As many others in the comment section, I respect your decision and wish you the best! As for the types of content you can create about pokemon, there's always art (like Subjectively), storytime (like CandyEvie) and while it does count towards challenges, it's still kind of interesting, reaching lv100 in weird ways (AbsolBlogsPokemon) Oh, and don't forget the TCG side of the fandom either!
Pikasprey Yellow has some vids that I think differ from the archetypes you've named. It's "soft lock picking" where he shows how to put your game in a state where you pretty much have to restart of suffer through impossibly long grind/rng to get out. Also some vids where he just straight up tries to make you suffer for as long as possible in a single battle. I think that's pretty unique.
love u papa. made some of my shittiest days better with your showdown videos, and ill never forget that. on to your next content now :)
pineapplefred isn't just salt tho, my man actually does cool Strats...
You have a great personality, and I think that's what made this channel popular, despite you not doing the whole "subscribe and hit like, share" etc bs. I'd personnaly love some music videos, and it is something you could pull off easily imo. Keep up the good humour quality and everything will be great
I love you papa!
Hey, that was fun, i liked it :D
/: all good!
Garbodors leaving showdown was the biggest betrayal of 2022
I've heard from a lot of people that KZread is a rough place right now. I'm glad to hear you're doing what you need.
@Silverlugia1256
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah and some youtubers just can't stop being jerks to others so the fact youtube does nothing about it is crazy
I respect ur decision, why force something if u dont like it anymore, i kinda lost interest after gen 6 personally myself, whilst there were a few cool things too in 7 Do what u enjoy thats how to do it, i really enjoyed ur music ones u put up time to time, so i always welcome something new and fresh , rock on man and take care
The thing I feel like is missing from the pokè-scene of KZread is just somebody playing it to have fun. Not specifically challenges, or anything like that. They just go to whatever they want and just make a team they think is cool. That’s what I do when I play (though I don’t have a channel). I usually play natdex, but I also play vgc and doubles decently often too. Usually just make a team with some Pokémon or a monotype team, then I slowly refine the team over a bunch of matches until it works the way I want it to, and it usually ends up being interesting and fun. For example, I have a team using trumbeak and some other Mon I don’t remember I made last week, and it actually usually goes pretty well. Trumbeak with a rocky helm and heat beak is a really really strong anti-physical Mon with a 100 power stab move with a free burn on contact is sick. Most the mon on my team are off meta or whatever, and I feel like KZreadrs don’t do that. They just feel like they have to have some gimmick or point of their channel (sometimes down to their team they make too lol), but I can’t find anyone that just plays the game tbh, lol. It’s always a gimmick or something (which can be fun), but this isn’t really supposed to apply to your situation. If you don’t wanna do showdown I agree, I often feel frustrated making teams because a bunch of new OP Pokémon (which are fine IN meta) straight up casually wall like your entire team just cuz they don’t hit hard enough if you don’t use OU Pokémon cuz the creep is so hard (hence me playing natdex, it’s not as severe somehow). But no real pressure to play JUST showdown (or showdown at all), and if anyone says otherwise who cares they can’t tell you what to do just breakdance on them fools. Okay, but I do have recommendations for cool games. OFF by Mortis Ghost is a REALLY sick rpg game you can get for free, hunt showdown is a really cool PvEvP game. Terraria/starbound, Don’t Starve, and Spore would be fun to watch (I would love to see you play spore), Death Road to Canada is an amazing game, Lethal League Blaze is a critically underrated game, Strider, RainWorld (fantastic game), SCP Containment Breach, and such. That’s the end of my rant-ply, hope it was interesting/helped anything
Honestly I'd like to listen to your music more than that to the battles since music is more closer to me than pokemon and I've already liked your music for sometime now
Like most competitive game it gets tiring after some time, I quit about 2 years ago I guess, no regrets it was fun some times, but the competitive side of Pokemon is not good enough to keep me playing anymore, I was more into story mode but I grew tired of official pokemon pretty quickly as well
I’ll miss both you and your content, but I understand why you’re leaving. Sometimes it’s good to quit from something for a while. Btw, my favorite Pokémon is also breloom
now papa garbodor goes to advance wars by web to terrorize opponents with unorthodox tactics
I think any difference btwn channels w/in each quadrant would be personality. The content does become repetitive eventually, so I think personality is one of the biggest things that lets a channel stand out and brings ppl back. But oftentimes, it's tough for personality to seep through the content. This channel does a good job showcasing your personality, so that's great! Your music was actually the biggest thing that drew me in to subscribe some years ago though, lol.
Wow. Never thought I would be featured in your video. I haven't been a viewer for long, your "yoink" video was the first one i ever watched. But you have been a lovable experience. Mmm, it is nice to take breaks from such tedious tasks. Especially when they get boring. National dex meta is indeed very unchanging. Urshifu and toxapex don't allow much change to the teams unfortunately. *pats* Also Ala is just a thing I say irl a lot, hence I type it. Consider it like "BAAM!" or something. A lil catchphrase?
Screw dynacrap, all my homies hate dynacrap.
I've seen so many content creators venting their frustration with the "KZread Grind". Please take all the time you need, even if you never come back I'll be happy with what you've already done for this community. Much love
There are also shiny hunters as opposed to the four you brought up
Always loved your videos, I’ve suggested it in the past, but please try out Temtem, you might enjoy it 😄👍 look forward to your next video
My favorite sub niche of pokemon is bdsp wifi battles. It technically falls under competitive but it feels different than showdown gameplay
Drunk Oak is technically a poke tuber who doesn't fall into those categories, but I know that isn't what you meant
I arrived during the pokemon showdown but only subscribed during the dark souls gameplay because i got bored watching pokemon (never played it) and maybe now the channel can become something new and exciting
Yeah! Everything you said is right and we don't blame you at all! However, if you still wanna try and have fun on showdown sometimes, I suggest you to try "Random Battle Mayem". You get a random team with winda increased stats to make everyone viable and each new pokemon you send out gets his ability stacked untop of the previous one. I basically play just that when I feel opening showdown, and it's just straight better then the normal gameplay ^^"
Hello bro, normally I'm not the type of person who comments on the videos he sees, but I've been watching your content for a while now and I understand how you feel, working hours can be quite a lot when you want to do more things in between, I hope you're well in your day to day, not many perform as you have done and I appreciate the content c:
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Don't force yourself papa.. live happy :)
I'm super glad to hear that you're breaking away from the content that you're not enjoying, and that you don't stand with YT and their practices. I look forward to seeing some new games in your lineup, if you choose to keep uploading semi-regularly.
You should try Pokken Tournament! It's a pretty unique pokemon fighting game and the visuals are some of the most spectacular pokemon visuals ever made!
Hey if you aren't enjoying it, stepping away is the best move. Take care of yourself and do what you love. We're here for the ride.
i've been watching you since last year, amazing content pretty funny but if you are willing to try new games, i gotta suggestion for you have you heard about TemTem is a "pokemon genre" game but it's also a mmorpg, i think it will release this year enjoy your break
Love uu, all the best in your ventures. Stay cool, I appreciate all the entertaining content over the years,.,. Honestly, the fact you have these values and principles and won't compromise them to appease the algorithm gods, I have mad respect for you.
I think Showdown is unhealthy for anyone normal to be honest. I've completely stopped playing. I would come back maybe once a month to try again but it was the same. Getting fucked by RNG and having games constantly stolen from you to a 1 in 100 chance while god comes down and hands your opponent the win on a silver platter with unholy luck. It can be fun, but the fact you easily lose if you get rolled by rng is so infuriating, especially when it happens so often. It is soooooo draining and emotionally exhausting to try to enjoy something that is just so genuinely terrible most of the time. That and insane GOOFY power creep with zacian and calyrex. There's just no way to actually enjoy it when it becomes so stale and requires so much effort just to try to get yourself to enjoy it slightly. Edit: Also, the increasingly broken mechanics. It's so irritating to know a well placed dynamax you haven't prepared for can easily lead into a sweep of your entire team, same goes for new legendaries being added.
I think there is another category of technical showcases with pokemon that wouldnt fall under the mentioned categories
agreed.
Yeah it's all good man, I don't play showdown anymore but I remember watching your showdown videos in the golden days of your channel. Now, you don't really get views no matter what you upload, because pokemon showdown as a whole is kinda dying, and I understand how boring it probably is for you to play this game especially when getting not many views. Tbh, as many ppl have said, I'm happy with whatever you upload. You seem like a cool guy.
Not on july 1st. Man I hate to see you go. Whenever I think of new meta strats I think of you. Not weedle you. Now I always come up with stupid strats on pokemon cause of you. God bless you and may garbodor follow ur path good bye
Pokemon is definitely stale and especially showdown. Maybe in a while after you've had time if you feel the desire if gen 9 is good you could try to plaay through the actual game with weird new meta strategies, whatever interests you. I think the way youtube works now is people come for the person instead of the content, and I think most people can subconsciously tell when someone isn't enjoying something. As long as it's paced decently and something you genuinely care about, I think you have a strong viewerbase that will enjoy it.
Yeah
i really enjoyed your dark souls - even though YT tried its best to stop me watching
Hey. I agree gen 8 content is just.. repetitive. Very, very repetitive. And I do agree that there are some things that have become "meta" on KZread as a platform. All the things you mentioned included. It's more like a corporate business running a channel, and the competition has become absolutely unhealthy. It just.. ain't fun anymore. The crux of this is that yes, I understand. We, as your fans, I hope, understand. Take your time, chillax, and have fun in whatever you do. Also, as a suggestion for new games, how about Deltarune or Undertale playthroughs? Although Undertale's kinda "outdated" now, I would still recommend playing it if you haven't.
Garbo, if you ever come back, you should try some of the off-normal metas. Like AAA, hackmons etc. AAA is basically why I still stick to showdown
I like your vids where you have a good time more. I think they provide more entertaining videos. There was a showdown vid you did where you kept saying you didn't care about the outcomes and that one was fun to watch imo. I like you, not showdown. You're totally right about pokemon videos being hard to make entertaining, your showdown vids are the only ones I watch.
I left playing showdown as soon as urshifu was added So yeah i can understand you ALSO YT SUCKKKKKKSSSSSSS Hope you'll do good in your vacation :) I watchhed you since 2016 and always thought you would blow up like crazy But alas yt didn't let you to Lots of love papa
@water113_6
2 жыл бұрын
True urishifu broke combat forever
I'm not saying anything that it's a bad thing that he takes a break, it's 100% acceptable, but damn I really love his videos...
I stopped watching showdown videos in general a long time ago for all of the stale, unbalanced, brainless reasons you've stated. I can't agree more with so many points of this video. I can't stand the salt videos because I think at some point you just become a troll looking for a reaction, and it has nothing to do with clever gameplay. The only reason I've kept watching your videos is because it's genuinely nice listening to you, regardless of the details of the content. You're just such a respectable person. I've stuck with freezai as well if he counts, but he's branching away from showdown as well, and I love to see it. I've been waiting for you to get bored of showdown for a long time now. I know it sucks for you to let go, but I'm really excited for what comes next. I've come across your music before and I love it. I'm obsessed with elden ring right now, and would be so hyped to see you play it. Cheers to the future!
maybe a 5th genre of Pokétube-ing would be something like CandyEvie or Jaiden Animations I think their content is truly wonderful.
Take ur time i Guess i havent really se en your numbers but this for example Is criminally under seen
How could anyone steal from temp6t That’s like. Triple theft
In my opinion, everything went downhill after generation 5. Gen 5 OU was a mess as well, but the generation as a whole was a lot of fun. Gen 6 was cool, but mega evolutions were poorly distributed, and mega Rayquaza is mega Rayquaza. Gen 7 is ok as well in terms of Pokémon design, but Z-moves are a guaranteed KO if used normally. Legendaries (asides from U-Necrozma) were great in my opinion, and the regional variants were a great idea, although they could’ve actually named them something properly that’s not putting the Region’s name in front of the Pokémon. Gen 8, in my opinion, is ass. I think that Dynamax/Gigantamax is a garbage battle gimmick, Zacian is Zacian, the stupid ghost horse, Eternatus, the balance is wack. Long story short, I think gen 3 to 5 were probably the most fun for me, with then everything going downhill rather quickly. Edit: I agree with the Pokémon animation being lame in the main games. Ive said it a lot of times, Pokémon Battle Revolution from 2006 has had the best Pokémon animations from any turn-based Pokémon game. They have a ton of personality. The sprites may not look amazing, but it’s more entertaining to watch this old game that sadly has crappy music and a somewhat annoying announcer, than watching basically any main series Pokémon game.
@chugdotpng5120
2 жыл бұрын
om is a great way of shaking things up cuz bdsp and gen8 is horrible
Yes please make music contents
That first guys luck XD you couldn't use priority but could bullet seed
isaac would be nice to watch
I can get what you're saying, for a few last months i feel like pokemon is becoming more and more bland and boring. Like when i watch videos from showdown, nuzlockes other challanges etc most of the time i feel like i watch the same thing just diffrent voice (of youtuber) with you was whole other thing and I'll be honest maybe your videos weren't top tier i could see i watch a human who puts effort to make this stuff and always was excited to make something new and it worked i stayed here for 4 years and i don't haven't once a thought it was waseted time. So thank you for making videos and hope youtube won't punish you for doing other games