You answered my questions in the first 60 secs. Great video. I remember the Motec guys when they worked in the garage with an XD falcon. They have done really well.

Thumbs up for sticker power!

Thanks for the video!

Very educational as always.

As always great products from Motec but insane prices. The competition is catching up and there's not many reason to spend a huge premium just for the motec name anymore.

@USA4thewin

3 жыл бұрын

I agree i run 2 of their gold boxes and when you see all features you need are optional and you have to call them up it gets stupid

Amazing again sir! Thanks love this information, especially about firmware as main component for upgrading a car.

@hpa101

2 жыл бұрын

We have a great interview on some major firmware updates coming out in 2 weeks, keep your eyes peeled :) - Taz.

@JustinD-bv4vt

5 ай бұрын

Yo you in the 504? And have a turbo Toyota lol

Good Video HPA. Wouldn't know much about Motec. But can only reiterate what others have said. Easy enough to get them but its support afterwards. Personally used plenty of AEM over the past 5 years and their after service is spot on.

@hpa101

5 жыл бұрын

As I mentioned in another reply, we've personally found their support to be top notch. You've got a variety of options for support including the dealer you purchased through or MoTeC themselves either in Australia or USA. We deal with Australia and they have a dedicated support team and have always been fast to answer any queries we have.

@Weihrauch88

5 жыл бұрын

@@hpa101 oh ah wasn't disputing that bud. They aren't massive over here in the UK wheras AEM were/are very well established in the Honda S2000 world. Motec were double the price of the EMS2 with not much advantage over them.

Very informative.

be great to see you guys do an unboxing of say the emtron kv8 and get your opinion of the product

The part about submarines was brilliant! Good job sir, HP academy, best academy.

With the AMP connectors, can some more standard crimpers be used? I have recently purchased a lot of different crimp tools but not one specifically for AMP pins. Doing research online, it seems the crimp tools for the AMP pins are quite limited (only made be TE Connectivity)? I really don't want to spend $250 plus USD for a crimp tool used for a couple PDM plugs and a couple ECU plugs, and nothing else.

the best mod car channel on youtube

@hpa101

5 жыл бұрын

Cheers for the kind words mate! We've got another unboxing lined up for a few weeks from now, it's a PDU/PDM this time ;) - Taz.

Hey mate, I saw a motec ecu without a GPA or GPR license, was much cheaper, does this further limit the use of the ecu? Is it just a blank? Im assuming the license is a pre-requisite in order to use the ECU?

Can i install motec on silverado?

Great video on the Motec M130 , thanks. Any chance you could do a similar video on the Emtrom KV8 ?

@jadethomas4006

5 жыл бұрын

was going to ask the same 😁

@hpa101

5 жыл бұрын

We've got nothing on the radar at the moment but it's possible.

@jadethomas4006

5 жыл бұрын

love to see a motec vs kv8 seems alot of big teams using kv8 over motec now

MoTeC, the iPhone of ECUs! (still want one though :D)

my motec m130 just died, the connectors were full of moisture, motec did not bother to put any seals in the plugs for the ecu.

Hi guys , will you make a webinar on the can template or understanding can info ... its gona help me chose what ecu to go with for my built since ill be using a pdm15 .

@hpa101

5 жыл бұрын

Already done mate! There's a couple of CAN based webinars in our archive which are available to our Gold Members. Here's a link to one of them - www.hpacademy.com/previous-webinars/102-can-communication-decoded/

thank you for the video, Do you recommend a Maxxecu sport over the Motec m130?

@hpa101

2 жыл бұрын

No, but we wouldn't recommend the MoTeC either here as there is not enough information to make a decision on from just this single question. Have a watch of this: www.hpacademy.com/previous-webinars/120-selecting-a-suitable-ecu-for-your-application/ - Taz.

Damn!!!!!!! What ecu will I use on my LS swapped submarine?

Absent from your commentary was automatic transmission control. Combining transmission control, throttle control and torque management can make an otherwise unusable package work, and work great. I find it strange that in this day and age of autos being technically superior and far more common than manuals I still can't get an aftermarket ecu that lets me a: drive at all b: have torque reduction on shifts and c: rev matches on downshifts.

@hpa101

5 жыл бұрын

That's because automatic transmission control is also absent from the MoTeC GPA firmware. I'm actually not aware of any standalone aftermarket ECUs that offer auto trans control but if you needed this feature then it could be incorporated with the M1 via a development licence and the required coding to talk to the TCM.

@poortech1

5 жыл бұрын

@@hpa101 AEM v1/v2 have auto trans control as well as the ProEFI 128. Granted these ecus can't control modern 8spd+ transmissions

Is there a noticeable difference between a Motec M1 and Haltech Elite 2500? I am not going to lie, I have a little snob in my that wants that Motec sticker on my car, but I have a lot of cheap bastard as well that would not mind saving the cash. You are correct, the Motec is noticeably more expensive here in the USA, but it is also not ridiculous, about 50% more. Does the M130 GPR firmware contain throttle blipping on downshift, or cruise control functionality? The M1 has been around a while, I wonder if Motec is working on the next generation ECU?

with the prices on that motec, idk... haltech or ecu masters still looks like the go to depending on your build

@hpa101

5 жыл бұрын

Pretty much as stated in the video, in many parts of the world the M130 GPA is price comparable with a Haltech Elite 2500 so... 🤷🏻‍♂️ECU Master offer a very competitively priced product and we haven't used one yet so can't compare it to a M130.

I tried first to buy a John Reed Motec M-150 to my Subaru STI-16 but since the usa cars has different PIN OUT than european , that did not worked with my car ,so i went with the Syvecs S6 Plus and a Plex SDM-500 dash-display instead, a choise that i ´m very satisfied with ..more functions but with about 1000 dollar cheaper price..can it be better,???? Dont Think so !!!!!!!!!!

11:57 is there a way to configure the M1 ECUs CAN, so you could make it work with other brands?

@RobertSmith-lh6hg

10 ай бұрын

Yes, it's device specific though via CAN. It depends on how closely to standards each company implementats communications.

I think you should use a lapel mic rather than a ear-piece type. It would look less like I'm at a seminar.

@hpa101

5 жыл бұрын

We have tested them but found this setup to be superior for our application as we also use this for live lessons where Andre is moving his head around a lot which causes issues with a lapel mic when your chin or fabric rubs on it. We will try them again in the future though as we like to re-test things every now and again just in case - Taz.

@RobertSmith-lh6hg

10 ай бұрын

Firmly disagree on lapel mics, boom always sounds better.

Motec sticker adds 5+ bhp duh

Also whats your view on a Wolf V550 EMS? Its best one wolf sell on market, i got the tuner series one? Would u rate a motec over it? Thanks Iv had to purchase seperate wideband controller for my wolf v550 tuner series too, as never came with one built into the hardware

@hpa101

5 жыл бұрын

I can't comment on the Wolf as they are almost non-existent in our local market. We've seen perhaps two over our time and both cars ended up having different ECUs fitted for a variety of reasons.

@toyotaturbo504

5 жыл бұрын

@@hpa101 oh god thats not very good news! :( i thought wolf were a local Australian company? Thanks taz

@lidawano

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, from what I've heard they're worse than Microtech.

Do you have any videos like this for the aem infinity ecu?

@ConTheDon187

5 жыл бұрын

I thought they did. Maybe not

@GarageBuiltMr2s

5 жыл бұрын

@@ConTheDon187 they did I found it. Its from 2013

@ConTheDon187

5 жыл бұрын

I thought I'd watched it. Good on ya mate! @@GarageBuiltMr2s

Would you recommend this ecu for a street driven evo 9 with cams turbo upgrade and 1300cc fuel system full exhaust. Would this ecu give me the ability to tune a better streetable car over a haltech?

@hpa101

5 ай бұрын

MoTeC would give you greater flexibility as overall it is a more 'capable' platform (noting that also depends on your skillset, or that of your tuners), however, a Haltech would also be more than sufficient for such a project - Taz. www.hpacademy.com/previous-webinars/120-selecting-a-suitable-ecu-for-your-application/?

Can this ECU program pneumatic actuators instead of camshafts i.e. (Koenigsegg FreeValve)

@legodude19999

4 жыл бұрын

Probably not, freevalve doesn't even fully exist yet.

What some people don’t realize is that Haltech and motec in Australia the price is almost the same. In the USA motec is literally 60% higher. I don’t know the reason behind it because it’s not an issue with haltech/link. I’m assuming that motec is just greedy over here in the states.

@hpa101

Жыл бұрын

Usually, it is the other way around and we in Aus and NZ etc pay substantially more than you in the USA 😅 I don't know the pricing structure but I do know MoTeC Global and MoTeC USA are two different companies beyond just being a US branch. That said, they are now owned by Bosch and I don't know if they plan to change or have changed anything around that. Either way, the price is the price and if a Link or Haltech option ticks all the boxes you need for you (and your tuner) then you are not wrong to use either option instead, they both have some great ECUs too. If they don't tick the right boxes but a MoTeC does, then even if it does cost more note they do also produce excellent ECUs and software and I highly doubt you will regret the purchase once the bank account lets you forget about it 😂 - Taz.

What is the disadvantages of motec in general and the softwares in the market ?

@hpa101

2 жыл бұрын

You'd have to be comparing it to something else to work out any advantages or disadvantages - Taz.

MoTeC M130 Engine Management System would be perfect for my 4age Bluetop on ITB's @ae86dams

What would you say is the best aftermarket ecu for my r35 gtr?

@hpa101

2 жыл бұрын

I don't think there is a 'best', there are pros and cons for all options out there. If you are not tuning it yourself, you need to speak to your tuner before you buy anything - Taz.

Can this be used on a BMW f10 M5?

@hpa101

4 жыл бұрын

I believe you'd want an M142, but I would get in touch with your local MoTeC dealer directly to discuss your options: www.motec.com.au/dealers/dealersau/ - Taz.

How is this compared whit the link G4+ series?

@lidawano

5 жыл бұрын

It's a step up for sure, but the consensus seems to be that G4+ is probably the best bang for buck ECU out there.

@hpa101

5 жыл бұрын

We use the G4+ range extensively and it is an excellent ECU for the price point. As Lidwano has mentioned, the MoTeC is a step up over the G4+, particularly when it comes to aspects such as closed loop fuel control, knock control and boost control.

@petterberg501

5 жыл бұрын

Good to know thanks for a fast and informative answer from both of u.

What about the harness or flying loom . Does the m1 come with one also the communication cable?

@fc3sboy1

5 жыл бұрын

@COMPROMISED ACCOUNT but does it come with a loom or any harness at all or are we to build one ourselves or pay the motec premium for one. I'm in the market for a new ecu and was looking at the m170 as I want to go full autosport connection with quick change bulkhead connection in the firewall

@fc3sboy1

5 жыл бұрын

@COMPROMISED ACCOUNT so we are talking bloated motec money here now. Grand. Well I'm figuring $10k for the electronics package for motec once it's all said and done any way

@fc3sboy1

5 жыл бұрын

@COMPROMISED ACCOUNT oh trust me I know. Like I said I figured $10 grand for what I want. But when you want the best you pay for it. I dispise haltech and will never touch one. Aem just not for me. I had been with an Australian ecu company named after a dog like animal infact I worked for them but since the owner took me for alot of money and left me with alot of bills to pay for I no longer will even say their name let alone use the product. And since I do alot of scca stuff and tune older m4s and 8s I figure id treat myself to the latest and greatest for my own car finally. And before the build is fully done I will have a sequencial in the car motec is the best in the market for my needs

@fc3sboy1

5 жыл бұрын

@COMPROMISED ACCOUNT from the few shops I had contacted in the Midwest I couldn't even get a price on anything unless I was in person with my CC in hand

@poortech1

5 жыл бұрын

@@fc3sboy1 Contact Cody Phillips Racing for a Motec Equipment Quote. He also builds looms.

How to possible diesel engine ecosport

Hopefully competition and production efficiencies will bring prices down for the hobbyist. Prying $2300 from the hand of a working man for a box of electronics is a tough sell.

I wouldn't touch Motec with a pole. I don't know if they still do but the used to charge £100+ for a rotary switch that was worth about a fiver

@davidellis8434

4 жыл бұрын

www.racedatasystems.com/products/motec-10-position-rotary-switch I rest my case

@hpa101

4 жыл бұрын

You don't have to purchase that switch if you don't need it, but their ECUs and software are well worth checking out past just the price point. There is a reason they are widely used at the levels of motorsport that they are =) - Taz.

So ..... the ecu connections are not included..

almost $3850 for gpr ecu is not in same ball park as other ecu's i mean you basically say that the gpa and gpr are the same and your paying $600 for firmware that most other ecus include standard??? come on thats a bit of a rip off. Haltech elite is $2800 comes with traction and launch etc plus wiring loom and fuse block relay etc. I wouldnt say something cost another $1000 are in the same price range

@lidawano

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah but Haltech is garbage compared to M1.

@thunderbirdizations

5 жыл бұрын

Lidawano lol cringe

@hpa101

5 жыл бұрын

First of all nowhere did we say that GPA and GPR are 'basically the same' - We quite clearly defined what you don't get in GPA and in our experience speccing and calibrating ECUs for customers, we would say that GPA is sufficient for more than 80% of customers. As we mentioned in the video, it's all well and good having a feature on a spec sheet but that doesn't count for much in our experience - It's how well that feature actually works in the real world. There's traction control and then there's traction control. This goes for every other feature that every ECU manufacturer lists on their spec sheets.

@SomervilleMetalWorks

5 жыл бұрын

@@hpa101 Hardware wise are they not the same? the only different is firmware coding?? We use a haltech in a drag car we need 2 step and launch and if we had more power maybe the traction control. Sure motec is a better system and it might do these things better but haltech gets the job done. $600 to add code they have already written is just silly. i mean if it was included in the gpa model your at $3250 and then not much more than a haltech and you would sell more units. I mean $400 more for a motec its a no brainer, it's not costing motec more for the extra code.

@hpa101

5 жыл бұрын

@@SomervilleMetalWorks yes the hardware is the same, however the additional firmware features require more time to develop, code, and validate hence the ECUs are differentiated by price. To better illustrate this, let's consider one of MoTeC's more complex packages such as the R35 GTR. This still runs on the same M150 that the GPA package runs on yet is considerably more complex as the factory CAN bus required decoding so that the stock GR6 transmission still functions, as well as all of the other R35 specific components. It's a safe bet that a lot more development time went into this package and the price reflects this. Like it or not, this is the model that MoTeC have chosen to apply to their business and of course you have no obligation to use their product.

This was an excellent educational video for me but The world doesn’t need more “unboxing” videos. I just watched a bullet proof product be unboxed from a completely unnecessary pelican case. It’s not made by Tiffany, it’s tough. But if we all buy into the “unboxing experience” , the price of the products we buy will only escalate because it’s wrapped in Gucci throw away plastic.

Much better ECUs for a fraction of cost of MoTec. Check out Maxx ECU

@bernardwarr4187

2 жыл бұрын

Are you sure there better?

M150 the best ECU runs the Mustang the GTR and the Lotus

Drop the price and make up the difference through ad-ons and accessories.

U didn't even give a example of a price in any country. How much? Please give a example from anywhere.

@ConTheDon187

5 жыл бұрын

over $1000 easy

@jasonp1977

5 жыл бұрын

Race Spec have the Motec sale prices in a pic on their facebook page for USA customers, M130 is $1995US through to 1st Feb 2019. facebook.com/racespecus/photos/a.1349197711861938/2116915358423499/?type=3&eid=ARAF7MGe56cz1yknzC27lOIyy104VF-Bi-PMZmOday9jACotgmwuIHMgYJESnr4tevSwIv7kQimPAcpV&__xts__%5B0%5D=68.ARAfBDhTLfyYstS67H03VSAtMmVFcFXCymnjUH-beIk4PREccAngNj5IprBs_bfD8FRvjQVXaNDbEHHe17Fc1NwKlt_4p4WriZIXm6lM0MvWh3pVWKAi4rPjdbAJPKQ7XHGYVyZGi-VW-h_S2iWMRvwyjWd7akuOGYi-cJlIz2c-OfZ_sRwjlqqecr3ATpkl457qqTjp7aaGOQNz_DcxM9ylNmE_6ILz_xy6JGvbHIylQAa1SUIC37NhlfU9Nq2PMflU3aH7OdZWlErd_74NtBGykiB-fPBjZV49KY07azhJXVjs&__tn__=EEHH-R

@hpa101

5 жыл бұрын

Hey Fred, where are you based? - Taz.

@annan_ma

5 жыл бұрын

Google, unlike the MoTeC, is free.

@hpa101

5 жыл бұрын

@Fred I don't think we could have been much clearer about this in the video? We specifically didn't list a price because it would have been irrelevant. The pricing changes depending where you are in the world hence to get a relevant price you need to contact a local dealer. Looking at prices in the US or Australia will be misleading for example if you happen to be based in Europe or Asia. There is a dealer list available at motec.com.au.

You forgot the most techical and best ecu….SYVECS. Bought my self a S6 PLUS with dash to my 550 hp/700 nm Subaru STI-16 Rolling launch...has motec that ? I have that and Motec dont LOL :)

@lidawano

5 жыл бұрын

Motec absolutely has rolling launch control LOL. Controlled via my Motec keypad, along with cruise control. It controls all 8 injectors in my 750whp Evo 8 like a dream.

@toyotaturbo504

5 жыл бұрын

Syvecs, like every other ecu, they all have pro & cons whislt under tuning and some have features that dont work well at all,

@hpa101

5 жыл бұрын

We've used Syvecs and found them to be excellent ECUs. 'Most technical' might be a stretch however and this award probably goes to something from Bosch such as their MS7.4 , but you'd better have around $20k to spare!

@mattiasandersson3444

5 жыл бұрын

@@toyotaturbo504 "and some has features that don't work well att all" LOOOOL. That must be why about 90 percent use them in UK. Sounds defantly like the engine calibrator need to learn how to tune a syvevss ecu'n!!!!

@mattiasandersson3444

5 жыл бұрын

@@lidawano strange why they dont write about the rooling launch strategi in there information and commersial everywhere. Maybe they don't Wanna sell it more when they noticed that certain strategi don't worked as good as syvecs. LoooooooL😁😁😁😁

hello sir I need A coupon for flashing tuning course please

Does someone here knows an ECU that works for electric vehicles ?

@hpa101

4 жыл бұрын

There are aftermarket controllers for some EV setups, primarily so that you can repurpose them to other chassis, but you need to search with a few specifics rather than just looking for a general 'EV' ECU - Taz.

I have no doubt of the quality of the ECU, the problem is when you need support.. that's the big problem

@hpa101

5 жыл бұрын

In our experience MoTeC's support network is excellent. If you're an end user then your dealer should be able to offer support, however if you have questions or issues that your dealer can't resolve then you can contact the support team at MoTeC Australia or MoTeC USA.

@stuartleiby9778

5 жыл бұрын

Motec USA has been great to deal with in our experience.

Wait so you have to pay then for software package upgrades?? Even after you spend 2 to 3k on their ecu, you wont have flat foot shifting or launch control unless you pay their software upgrade fee? What a rip off! Nobody else does this. Go haltech or maxxecu or ecumaster. Forget motec.

@hpa101

5 жыл бұрын

If you want launch control or other motorsport features you would not buy a GPA firmware package, you'd buy the GPR which also includes closed loop gear change control and traction control. As we said in the video, a feature on a manufacturer's spec list doesn't mean much in the real world - It's how that feature actually works on the race track. MoTeC's advanced race features are developed for professional level motorsport through their involvement with the likes of nismo and they work.

@lidawano

5 жыл бұрын

Haltech lmao. Just ripped the Platinum Plugin out of my Evo and threw it in the bin where it belongs. There's a reason Motec and Emtron are expensive - they're the best.

@mattiasandersson3444

5 жыл бұрын

Haltech, maxxecu and ecumaster are llike cheap shit that cant compare to motec in one single thing...

@ronaldmcfondled9604

4 жыл бұрын

You gotta pay to play bruh, you can't just expect shit handed to you on a silver platter. If you're modding on this level, expect higher investment.

@hahahano2796

4 жыл бұрын

The best part is companies that allow that without the price tag are considered "trash" despite doing exactly those things. Even better when tuners refuse to use those other ECUs; often because the owner can then go in and see how garbage their tune is or "sell it" despite it already being paid for. Paying to play is one thing. Being extorted is another. It's also a bit sad given how unnecessary it is. sAFC putting cars in the single digits. Burnable ROMs doing the same. Best power & reliability not being at/near knock. The longer I've been in the tuning scene the more it becomes obvious it's all about taking money from people who don't know any better and not spreading knowledge.

you should just donate me one, or motec hahaha I am far too broke to buy an ECU.

@hpa101

5 жыл бұрын

Enter in the competition Gung and you never know. This one is sitting on my desk waiting to be sent to a winner that will be drawn in just a few days ;) - Taz.

price is incorrect haltec. adaptronic aem ecu are all cheaper and from the looks of it have more i/o how come you never gave a Price comparison like where your from how much haltech is vs how much motec is wouod give us better idea do you still have to buy upgrades like logging etc

@hpa101

5 жыл бұрын

Maybe give the video another watch Ashter. The point we are trying to make is that MoTeC isn't as expensive as many people believe, it's not the cheapest but isn't unobtainable like many believe. The pricing locally puts this ECU below Haltech's top range. Yes, there are differences in i/o, and features, but for some people who really like MoTeC and don't need advanced features - this will be ideal. :) We aren't trying to tell people to buy this, we don't get paid by MoTeC, we don't make money when people purchase ECUs, we work with all companies like Adaptronic, Haltech and AEM. Hope that clears things up. - Ben `

This looks like it was filomed at Donut Media lol

@hpa101

5 жыл бұрын

We've had this purpose built setup for a few years now so I think you mean to say it looks like they are filming at HPA ;) - Taz.

@ewatfred

5 жыл бұрын

@@hpa101 hahaha that's awesome! You sound Aussie, what were you doing out in Cali?

Now that we've dealt with the pricing....... never mentions a price..... smh

@hpa101

2 жыл бұрын

We don't sell ECUs, price will be location specific and it will change with time so even if we said on here by now it would be irrelevant anyway. Check in with your local dealer, you can find one via the MoTeC site - Taz

@benmintz3188

2 жыл бұрын

@@hpa101 I hear you but... why even say anything about price in the video at all? By mentioning it, you set yourself up for the criticism.

@hpa101

2 жыл бұрын

@@benmintz3188 I just double checked. It's really clear and stated why the price isn't given, and it is mentioned as a comparative. You can do that without giving a figure. You know a Ferrari is going to cost more than Fiat for an example, without saying it is $3.99 a kg. Sorry this has irked you given the other great information in the video including on where you should look to find a price - Taz.

@550LMS

2 жыл бұрын

@@hpa101 Thankfully, through the combined powers of the internet, google and braincells being given a simple instruction, typing ''Motec M130 price" into google gives one the pricing... All the great information in the video and people are stuck on that. Christ.

It's entertaining to see all the negative Motec comments. Many argue that a KIA comes with Bluetooth, backup camera, and Android Auto/Apple Carplay and they are options on the luxury marques so they must be garbage and a royal ripoff. The details ....it's in the details. Good job Andre and HPA.

@hpa101

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate. MoTeC isn't for everyone and frankly they aren't targeting the entry level market. Most will never understand that not all ECU features work the same.

@lidawano

5 жыл бұрын

But all computers are the same are they not? Pentium II works just as well as an i7 right? Right?

@hpa101

5 жыл бұрын

@@lidawano no, all ECUs are not the same. For a start not all aftermarket ECUs use the same processor which can have a big impact on their processing speed and capability. Beyond this though, the processor only does what the code tells it to do so really it's the code AND the processor that defines how well a particular ECU will function.

@lidawano

5 жыл бұрын

Haha sorry mate, guess I disguised my sarcasm too well. I'm very much on your side here.

@hpa101

5 жыл бұрын

@@lidawano yes our bad sorry! Things are always more obvious with hindsight for some reason

What kind of Donut Media is this? 😂

@hpa101

5 жыл бұрын

Bah! We've had this studio for years and note it's not just a kitchen, so feel free to post on their channel asking what kind of HPA they are haha (we do love their content too BTW!) - Taz.

What an accent

HALTECH.

@hpa101

5 жыл бұрын

Interesting comment. No context. No helpful information. Two Thumbs Up. 👍🏻- Ben

@lidawano

5 жыл бұрын

An ECU that doesn't hold a candle to Motec 👍

@mattiasandersson3444

5 жыл бұрын

Haltech ...worst shit in the ecu-World !