I am so thankful for your scientific reviews. Food is too expensive to have any spoil from bad products. It is hard to tell from the packaging if it is good or not. Thank you!!

@Philat4800feet

2 жыл бұрын

You are so welcome!

I am grateful to you! You teach us so much and encourage us to think!!! Again, thank you!

I just wanted to thank you for your time and knowledge in doing this video for those of us who have and are investing in ways of preserving foods for future consumption for whatever reason. No doubt in mind that you’re a very intelligent man and demonstrating the way you did on the whole oxygen absorbing phenomena really drove home the point. Thanks again and God bless you!!

@Philat4800feet

9 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful

I almost bought their oxygen observer, glad I didn't. Great job Phil!!! You are teaching us so much good information, Thank you for all your time and work you put into your videos!!!

@Philat4800feet

Жыл бұрын

Glad to help

Oh no! I use the Wallaby all the time. I noticed the packets are much smaller and wondered about that. I guess I'll use 2 until they are gone then won't buy them again. The bad thing is that much of the time I use #10 cans and sealer. That's expensive these days! So glad you do this for us.

Thank you so much! Caught your channel just in the nick of time before ordering! Money/food. So important!

@Philat4800feet

Жыл бұрын

Welcome

Thank you very, very much for making this video.

Thanks for your time with this experiment. Great information.

@Philat4800feet

Жыл бұрын

More to come

Thank you. Very valuable information.

Thank you!

Take a drink every time he says "interesting".

Fantastic and interesting video, thank you……. I have been using Wallaby and had concerns…..(2 orders 75 1 gallon bags and 2 orders of O2 absorbers) I would estimate that only half of all the Mylar bags “sucked in” and tighten up. I was told that not all storage bags will tighten up…… I’m a bit skeptical and concerned after watching your video. In addition, the packages of O2 absorbers did NOT have the freshness indicators. Lastly, my first Wallaby order sent from CA and last order and a 2 month delay…..sent from Colorado……both orders from Wallaby’s website….. I did order another brand of Mylar bags off of Amazon for comparison…….zero issues and much larger O2 absorbers….

@Philat4800feet

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the info

@zhippidydoodah

2 жыл бұрын

Mine didn't have the indicators on them either. I really hate that all O2 absorbers I've seen never have the cc written on the packet. I wish a company would write that on the O2 absorber packet itself along with all of their warning labels.

@HelloFlorida911

Жыл бұрын

Fluffy Otter1…what brand did you order from Amazon with zero issues?

@Philat4800feet

Жыл бұрын

@@HelloFlorida911 Pleasant Grove Farm (DBA Topmylar.com) You can save a few dollars by buying direct.

@preppertuck

Жыл бұрын

​@@Philat4800feet omg I stumbled Crooss their website couple days ago. I was gonna order a few to test and compare. So glad you mentioned them!

This has made me worried for sure. I originally ordered Freshpack USA and felt like their oxygen absorbers were much higher quality than Wallaby but unfortunately the packages kept selling out I might order just the freshpack absorbers for the wallaby bags I already have. Shipping with them has been very quick both times so no issues there but this is very disappointing for sure. Thank you for the thorough review !!!

I just bought Wallaby bags and thought it strange how tiny the oxygen absorbers were. I also have a bag full of the 300cc ones. I am really scared to use them now. Thank you so much for doing these videos. I just got my Harvest Right freezer and waiting for the electrician to set up my outlet. I am looking forward to watching your videos.

@Philat4800feet

Жыл бұрын

You could use the wallaby OA and vacuum pack your food.

@scrapincrazed

Жыл бұрын

@@Philat4800feet I will have to do that to be on the safe side

I too was suspicious of how small and sandy,soft the packets were so I threw 2-3 packets in (and vacuum sealed) I checked on them 2 weeks later they all seem to be OK. AND WERE SUCKED additionally MORE SUPER TIGHT/HARD. 😅🤣 I went back to buying oxygen absorbers from harvest right

Nice video! I like your scientific approach. I just have a few observations on your method for testing the oxygen absorbers. Since oxygen can diffuse through liquids, it's possible that the absorbers pulled more oxygen through the liquid than was in the jars initially. Also, it's possible that the weight of the liquid decreased the pressure inside the jar to lower than ambient pressure which would skew your measurements lower as well. There are two ways I can think of to control these variables. One way is to weigh the absorbers immediately after removing them from the package and again after a week. If you don't have a scale that can weigh things that light, you can increase the number of absorbers you weigh at a time. The second method I can think of is to slightly pressurize a container with an absorber and do some gas calculations with the difference in pressure. These suggestions are just off the top of my head, though, so I'm not sure how they would work in practice.

@Philat4800feet

Жыл бұрын

Good questions. Oxygen doesn't want to separate itself from water unless there is sufficient energy to do so. Standing water will just stand. On many experiments I used a jar, in water, without an absorber to act as a control. I wanted to see if temperature and barometric pressure would influence the outcome. It didn't. I also didn't want gravity to act upon the water being pulled up from the vacuum. I'm still trying to find a better way to test. I have noticed the oxygen absorbers will gain weight, but the difference is very small. One liter of oxygen, under standard conditions, is 1.43 grams. 300 cc would weigh 0.43 grams.

I just got my Wallaby order two days ago and the label on the O2 absorbers are exact same label including the batch number

@Philat4800feet

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe the batch is a few million.

I exclusively use PackFreshUSA for my Mylar and oxygen absorbers. I have found them to be the highest quality ones on the market that I have used thus far.

@Philat4800feet

2 жыл бұрын

I will do PackFreshUSA sometime. They have good product.

@gamebent

Жыл бұрын

Hi. I have used pack fresh exclusively for a while now. Some months ago they changed brand of oxygen absorbers from FreshUs to an o2 absorber with the packfressusa name on it. I did some testing and found that using packfreshusa o2 absorbers causes some freeze dry product like apples to turn soft and mushy especialy around the o2 absorber in a mylar or Mason jar. They seem to be adding moisture to the product. Have you noticed this?

@elainecurtis3649

10 ай бұрын

I saw your comment and bought some bags. Thanks

I havent felt comfortable with the idea of o2 absorbers not sucking packaging tightly, so after sealing up my food with an o2 absorber, I take a thumb tack and poke a hole near the edge then use my house vacuum to suck the packaging tight and use my flat iron to seal the hole. Works like a charm!

@Philat4800feet

2 жыл бұрын

Do you have a freeze dryer? You can vacuum seal inside the chamber. Fun fact- Oxygen absorber can create a small vacuum, but not always enough to suck in the sides of a bag. As the absorber removes oxygen it creates carbon monoxide. Not enough to be harmful to humans, but could keep bugs away.

@PottersPorch

Жыл бұрын

@@Philat4800feet *Do you have a video on that yet? My freeze drier came in yesterday!. Many thanks, Phil*

@Philat4800feet

Жыл бұрын

@@PottersPorch Sounds like an idea for a video.

@PottersPorch

Жыл бұрын

@@Philat4800feet LOL... I'm gonna leave the video thing to you!

@preppertuck

Жыл бұрын

This doesn't seem like a smart idea too me.

I vacuum seal mine and just put them in a bag to keep light away , I skip the oxygen absorbers all together. I use two different companies and some packages work and some failed:(

Thank you so much! I thought I was buying the best. I watched several review videos before I bought. I am searching for an impulse sealer and looked up Wallaby. So happy to have found your review with actual testing. I have only purchased Wallaby and have marked OA on containers I sealed using them. It will be fairly easy to snip a corner add some absorbers with enough power to do the job, then reseal. Have you tested the impulse sealers. I have been looking at reviews stating that the temperature knob was flimsy and even came off, temperatures were not stable and some units got hotter and hotter. Safety is my priority. I was comparing features and looking for temperature control by the degree (not 1-5, 5 is hottest). Also, looking at cord length, does it have a stand, width of seal 10 or 15 mm, unit width (8, 12, or 16 inches of heating element), material (stainless steal over plastic). Everyone would be very thankful if you would do a scientific testing and review on the impulse sealer available online. I am looking at the squeeze and release style rather than the one that looks like a giant stapler. Others reviewed those and said that they did not last very long. Maybe 50 seals. I will happily follow your advice. Also, which OA brand did you go with? Keep up the great content. You have a new subscriber.

@Philat4800feet

Күн бұрын

The sealer I have came from Harvest Right and has been rebuilt twice (seal replacement). It works fine. A good seal is when you can see the imprint of the teflon fabric in the seal. There are several sources for OA. see link below: kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZYOI2Zagec21YtY.html

@Phil at 4800 feet should O2 absorbers be used when using a vaccum chamber sealer with mylar bags or are they not needed? Also, once I had run out of OAs so just folded the bag top over. I later forgot about that batch when OAs came. How long would that food be ok without the O2 absorber? ( need to determine if I should just throw it out or if still safe to use) Thanks for all your comparison and how to videos. I appreciate your sharing of your knowledge interesting ways.

@Philat4800feet

Жыл бұрын

An OA is like insurance. You may not need it until you do. I still use OA when I vacuum seal. It's a low price to pay. I have a freeze-dried pantry. None of the bags have OAs in them. Depending on humidity, it's low where I live, my food will last up to a year. When it starts to absorb moisture, I just run it through a quick FD cycle

Great videos. One thing I didn't notice in any of your reviews is whether or not you actively replace the air in the jar when you dump the water out during your tests? For example, if you dump the water out, then put the jar right back in the water, you will still have a very low oxygen content in the air so the second round with the same absorber will always fail. Are you blowing fresh air into the jars after emptying the water on the first round? Thanks!

@Philat4800feet

Жыл бұрын

Exchanging the air in the jar was done "off-camera" and edited out. I also tamped down the absorber to keep it from falling into the liquid. It has happened before.

Blah, I bought those bags. :( But I at least know to add more 02 absorbers. The bags seem ok. Thank you for testing and reporting. I hope Wallaby looks into the issue.

Thank you so much for your tests. Although I do not understand any of the testing methods. I am always so nervous about using oxygen absorbers because I never know if it works. when I pull out the oxygen absorbers they are soft and grainy ,however within seconds of opening the package, the little pink dot starts turning purple and within 30 seconds it's completely purple. I always move fast to get them in bags, fold them over and then immediately start sealing. If the dot turns purple so quickly does that mean the oxygen absorbers are no longer good? Or just degraded and i should just toss in 2 or 3 extra? Thank you for your time and dedication.

@Philat4800feet

2 жыл бұрын

It can take hours, if not days, to use up an absorber. Many "better" companies add extra iron powder to increase the potency sometimes X4. The pink/purple dot is a poor representation of the oxygen absorbers.

@scharlenewinningham5579

2 жыл бұрын

I wondered about the validity of those pink dots! Thanks Phil!

@debbiebrugman4543

Жыл бұрын

Trina de, I found the same thing with my oo and that dot turning blue very quickly. So glad I’m not alone and grateful Phil answered your question.

Dang Wallaby! Still waiting for my gallon bags...now on 3 is months as well. BUT I did use some of their 4 gallon and 2000 ish absorbers! Hey Phil, if I send you some larger ones from Wallaby, will u test them?

@Philat4800feet

2 жыл бұрын

You'll probably get them in a refrigerator box. As for the 2000cc absorbers try it yourself with a child or grandchild. Stick the absorber in the bottom, soon to be top, of the jar. I use gorilla duct tape and rest the jar on three paper clips in colored water. track the progress. When the water level stops, that will be 21% of your oxygen. see how many times you can repeat it. Let me know the outcome. Thanks

I bought a bunch of Wallaby's. The bags feel like they are just as thick or thicker than the Harvest Right bags and I love the gusseted bottoms, but I'm worried about the Oxygen absorbers. Can I just put two in a bag? Will that work better?

@Philat4800feet

Жыл бұрын

You could either put two OAs in one bag or vacuum pack the food.

Thank you for your tests and the process. I do have one question that may be an issue. You had a 983cc, call it a 1L, jar. I think you had it filled with air, not with O2. Would not air only leave you with about 200cc of O2 in it? If you filled it with O2 then I understand the measurements.

@Philat4800feet

2 жыл бұрын

A normal quart equals 946cc. The one quart jar I used was filled to the top and equaled 983cc. 21% of 983cc equals 206cc, the amount of oxygen in our air. I marked the line on the jar at 200cc to make it clear. The absorber removed the available O2 and raise the water level to the 200cc mark and then stopped because there wasn't any more O2 in the jar. When the air was replaced, it went through the same process until all the iron powder in the absorber was coated with iron oxide. This was repeated five times until the absorber was spent. I would love to be able to use pure oxygen in a large beaker to see what would happen. I fear the water column would be so large gravity would have a negative effect. Good comment. Thank you.

@theoldguy9329

2 жыл бұрын

@@Philat4800feet Thanks I will go back through the video again now that I understand the process more clearly. The home brewers do have carboys that are larger than a 1 quart jar so you don't need to multiple resets by lifting.

I have been using wallaby OA for at least a year. Now I’m very worried that my food may not be good. I have freeze dried eggs and meat plus vegetables. How can I tell if the food is still good? I’m afraid to eat it now.

@Philat4800feet

Жыл бұрын

Although my Wallaby absorbers didn't suck up 500cc, they did suck up nearly 300cc. I really try to remove as much air out of the bag before sealing. I will use the wallaby absorbers, but vacuum seal the bag as well.

Your analytical approach is greatly appreciated. I use oxygen absorbers and vacuum seal bags and jars. I've used some of these 'small' absorbers and because of your videos, I threw in extra. Question: Usually my vacuum seal produces a rock-hard Mylar bag. However, some of these bags are not quite as *_Rock-hard_* as they were several months ago... could the bag itself be allowing air in? Have you tested this?

@Philat4800feet

Жыл бұрын

Working on it. There is a chance that there could be micro creases in our seals allowing some air in.

@PottersPorch

Жыл бұрын

@@Philat4800feet Thanks Phil, I love your videos. Just got my Freeze Drier today and feel more confident because of all the information you've put out!

@granjmy

8 ай бұрын

I read that oxygen can seep through bags that are vacuum sealed, if the wrong kind of bag is used. I can't find it again, but I believe this is the website where I read about it- us packaging and wrapping.

Great job man! Cheers from Commiefornia! Peace!

I have wallaby bags from 6 months ago. They seem to be ok. No food has failed yet and my o2 doesn’t have any of the same as you.

@Philat4800feet

Жыл бұрын

Good to hear.

good stuff

I double up on what Wallabys I have left on the larger bags that need more than 200ccs.

So I dont know if this makes a difference but I I jery rig a cut margarita straw in the hose of our vacuum.i have the food in & bags sealed to were theres a 2 inch opening. I drop in the bag & vaccum them tell there tight then seal them. I dont pop the lid on the 5 gallen buckets tell I let them sit for 5 days making theres no holes. If there is repeat with a new oxygen absorber. Am I doing it wrong?

@Philat4800feet

Жыл бұрын

Looks like you put in a lot of thought to your procedure. Sounds good.

@roberttempest7543

Жыл бұрын

@@Philat4800feet just making sure because I also got the brand of bags you are reviewing, noticed they did not come with a 2000cc oxygen absorber. The smaller ones would work for the 1 gallon & smaller from the charts I found. The bags seem to be made like the other ones I have. I'll give it a worle & see how they hold up.

I use a lot of Wallaby...not concerned about the bags; they're thick mylar, but the 02 absorber is disappointing. I use 300cc's on my pint & quart bags, so not too concerned, but I'll probably double up from now on.

Well I just saw this video and I’ve been freeze drying for 6 months now and I guess I’m going to have to open all my bags except the ones I got from Harvest Right that came with the freeze dryer. The channel The Provident Prepper recommended Wallaby bags and oxygen absorbers so I thought I was doing good. Going forward what brand of Mylar bags and oxygen absorbers do you recommend?

@Philat4800feet

10 ай бұрын

Before tossing in the towel on Wallaby, find your oldest bag with the highest amount of oils. such as nuts, avocados, fish, meats, etc. Who has the best sense of smell in your family? Carefully open a 1" corner of the bag. Get your nose up close and slowly squeeze the air into your nostrils. How does it smell? If there is a sulfur smell (hydrogen sulfide), that's a sign of food spoilage. If it smells like the correct food you're probably ok. See this video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/foqFyamHia-ZgbA.html

@jillburkett6876

10 ай бұрын

@@Philat4800feet Thank you so much.

as a prepper who has food storage and freeze dries his own food this tells me if I put-up freeze-dried chicken I need to use 2 o2 packs, but if I put up rice, I can get away with 1 o2 bag. the other thing i noticed about the wallaby bas is after opening the bag on the bottom so it will stand up, about 50% of them you can see daylight through if you hold them up to light. i have filled them with water with no leaks so it is a break in the "foil" but not the bag. my understanding it the bag does all the work, and the foil prevents light from ruining the product. Please chime in if I am wrong.

@Philat4800feet

Жыл бұрын

You're correct. The foil coating is to stop UV rays. A few pin sized lights should be a problem. Have you tried vacuum packing your food, inside the chamber, with only one O2 absorber?

@johnsmith-dm2tq

Жыл бұрын

@@Philat4800feet no, I just saw a vid where you clipped the corner off the bag and chamber sealed them. That was pretty cool, I will try that on my ice cream 🥪 as soon as they are done.

@47retta

Жыл бұрын

My info has been that the foil protects from oxygen penetration better than plastic. So if there's holes, it could allow oxygen to eventually seep in. Phil, is this correct?

@Philat4800feet

Жыл бұрын

@@47retta Mylar is actually three layers. The outside layer is Mylar, the center is a metal foil and the inner layer is a thermal plastic. The Mylar outer layer reduces oxygen transmission better than any other plastic. The foil stops UV light transmission, and the inner layer allows the material to be fused with heat. All three will help stop oxygen absorption. Real Mylar is a clear polyester. Real Mylar, made by DuPont is outstanding in stopping oxygen. Most food storage bags are not Mylar, but a form of polyester called BoPet.

@Philat4800feet

Жыл бұрын

@@47retta Holes in the center foil will not allow air to seep into the bag since there are an outer and inner layer as well.

Just received a 60 ct 1 gallon order from wallaby. 8/13/22. My 02 absorbers has the exact inspection label. Same numbers exactly. The bags are thick but I do not belive they are mylar. They feel like a different material than my other mylar bags, and 02 absorber is definitely tiny compared to any other I have used. I have product on back order and I'm going to call and cancel it Monday. Any suggestions where to get bags. I would like to have pints, half gallon, gallon, and 5 gallon. I used usaemergency supply before with good results and did a huge order 3 years ago. Now reviews are saying folks having issues with getting orders and contacting anyone. I tried and my call was routed to Guatemala. They tried to hide that by using a usa number then transferring call, but my phone shows when that happens. I'm getting low on bags and could use the community help with who else to try.

@Philat4800feet

Жыл бұрын

Of course, Harvest Right and Topmylar.com, Vacuumsealersunlimited.com, Uline and others.

@PottersPorch

Жыл бұрын

@@Philat4800feet *Thanks, Phil!*

@nunyabizz50

11 ай бұрын

@@Philat4800feet what do you think of the 4mil mylar vacuum bags sold by vacuumsealersunlimited for long term storage of wheat berries, beans and rice?

I don't know if you will see this and respond, but I just spent the last 1/2 hour trying to find "Hints and Tips # 2 for vacuum packing instructions" and am no closer to finding it on The "Videos" page. I saw three in the series for the Harvest Rite, but I cannot find what I'm looking for. Any hope for me?

@Philat4800feet

Жыл бұрын

Here's the link: kzread.info/dash/bejne/iZ59w5OQhdDUqto.html Go to time index 11:30 I also have this video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/dXiekpSlqKWsmbQ.html

@davidotness6199

Жыл бұрын

@@Philat4800feet Why thank you kindly. And greetings from Alaska.

What are the best oxygen absorbers and best mylar bags?

@Philat4800feet

Жыл бұрын

Distribution Service for oxygen absorbers: kzread.info/dash/bejne/iJeElLiQkqq2o84.html Check out tis video for bags: kzread.info/dash/bejne/gqaImayPerrRgKw.html

Does it make a difference by obstructing the back side with the tape?

@Philat4800feet

5 ай бұрын

If you're referring to the Burst test, then no it doesn't.

@dustinfinlinson3203

5 ай бұрын

@@Philat4800feet I'm sorry I meant the O2 testing. I was wondering if it restricts access for O2 to enter the absorber by obstructing part of it.

Can you please test the oxygen absorbers that Azure Standard sells?

@Philat4800feet

Жыл бұрын

Azure Standard uses OxyFree OA. I'll see what I can do.

My concern is that aluminium and plastic is not the best health wise. Doesn't get absorbed into the food?

@Philat4800feet

Жыл бұрын

The aluminum is sandwiched between layers. The inner plastic is preserved with the food in a low vacuum, light (UV), and moisture environment. I don't think there's an issue.

Just spent 200 euro on these wallaby bags. So disappointing...live in Ireland 🇮🇪 and as a nation we don't prep. No Irish company sell any mylar bags. Can you advise which company I should buy from. I need 1 gallon and 5 gallon bags. Thanks so much for the info...I am completely new to the whole prepping. We are expecting food shortages and restricted power supply for the winter...something to look forward to!!

@Philat4800feet

Жыл бұрын

The bags from Wallaby are ok. The oxygen absorbers have issues with. Try the following: Vacuum sealers Unlimited and kzread.info/dash/bejne/iJeElLiQkqq2o84.html

@jacquelinecullen5873

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for a prompt reply. I can double up on the oxygen absorbers. I will use the wallaby bags if you think they are OK. Its great to get advice from experienced people...thanks so much.

What if it was absorbing only oxygen and not the rest of the other gas like nitrogen etc.

@Philat4800feet

3 ай бұрын

Oxygen is the gas to watch out for since it's responsible for oxidation.

Dearest Phil, Please don’t take this the wrong way. I say this in jest. I hate science stuff...my eyes want to roll to the back of my head. Lol I’m artsy fartsy. I am so EXTREMELY GRATEFUL for what you do. I’m so glad people like you exist. You keep the rest of us from killing ourselves. (And our loved ones) I love you, Ex Wallaby User Lol

@Philat4800feet

Жыл бұрын

Give us time and we will wear you down to submission ;)

@Clynn57

Жыл бұрын

@@Philat4800feet that’s very funny. Not likely though. 🤣

WINCO Mylar Bags are 2 Mil. Anyone have experience with them?

@Philat4800feet

Жыл бұрын

That's pretty thin

@donquihote6023

Жыл бұрын

@@Philat4800feet Thanks, thats what I thought. Do you perform tests to see if theynare viable? They don't tear. I have tried. Holes with sharps, sure, but, I have found no Mylar that takes that. Do you do film integrity tests. Thanks I appreciate it.

Re. the bags, I don't know that you can say that they came from the exact same factory if they have similar labelling (but not exactly the same) on the bag. More likely the Chinese factory with the cheapie bags is either copying the design, or the same generic designs are open sourced there and used by different companies for different things. Re. the oxygen absorbers, I agree with your previous videos, it's a bit sketchy on labelling. I don't know that I'd trust any oxygen absorbers alone at this point. What you're seeing would explain why some bags with oxygen absorbers don't have that vacuum sealed look, even though they say it can happen (the oxygen absorber didn't work 100%). I think I will vacuum seal and stick an oxygen absorber at the same time in all my mylar bagged preps from now on.

@Philat4800feet

2 жыл бұрын

Good idea, it will be a space saver.

I bought an extra bag of Wallaby absorbers. I throw like 3 Wallaby absorbers in each gallon bag. Hopefully I'm okay.

@Philat4800feet

Жыл бұрын

Have you considered vacuum packing those bags with the Wallaby absorbers?

@rrf8185

Жыл бұрын

@@Philat4800feet I have not. I will look into it. Thanks Phil!

Just looked at my oxygen absorbers. They were made and reviewed by the same team as yours, they also were the same batch number 🤦 such a shame, wallaby seemed like such a good brand. Now I dont know what to do. I don't want to risk my food!

@Philat4800feet

9 ай бұрын

You could either double up on them or vacuum pack your food to be safe. As long as your food was dried property you may be good to go. Check some food 2-3 months old, higher in fats and oils. Give the bag the "crunch" test.

I like their bags, unfortunately, their O2 absorbers are no good... At least the ones I got. There wasn't any label on the package indicating the cc count or any manufacturing indicators. Opening up the pouch of 10, they seemed kind of like they were already spent absorbers.

@Philat4800feet

2 жыл бұрын

They need to feel like flour. Bad if feels like sand. Thanks for comments

@Tjensen999

2 жыл бұрын

@@Philat4800feet they felt more like sand rather than flour. 🥲

Bit out of spec here because 400cc is a measure of VOLUME not WEIGHT so cc to gram doesn't really work. And oxygen absorbers are designated for how much SPACE they're supposed to deal with, not how much water they might suck up. That, I suppose, is why they're not called water absorbers.

@Philat4800feet

Жыл бұрын

The great thing with the metric system is a cc = ml = gram. A cubic centimeter is the same as one 1 ml and both weighs one gram. 400 cc weighs 400 grams and fills 400 ml. As the oxygen absorber oxidizes 1 cc of oxygen it creates a void. When that happens, 1cc (or one gram) of water is "sucked" in to fill the void.

Haha I got that same HUMUNGOUS BOX from wallaby I ordered I bag set ...🤣😅🤣🧐

@Philat4800feet

2 жыл бұрын

That's funny.

Excellent sir. I’ll bet half our stuff is fake. I’m sure everybody’s in agreement about why and who as well.

@Philat4800feet

Жыл бұрын

Additional testing shows Wallaby bags not too bad. The oxygen absorbers have problems.

Your scale does not have the requisite accuracy for such small amounts. You need to use one that has accuracy down to the hundredths, i.e., 70% Fe will be ~2.80 grams. Using a scale that only measures in no smaller than a gram will not give an accurate reading. Also, how long has the oxygen absorber been exposed to the air _prior_ to placing inside the jar? They _must_ be stored in airtight containers and _immediately_ placed into whatever receptacle it is being used in _within two minutes_ for best results.

@Philat4800feet

Жыл бұрын

Measuring the amount of iron is important but not critical to me. I do this to find the potential. From the moment the powdered iron is manufactured the clock on exposure starts ticking. The greater the exposure to the atmosphere the more the powdered iron will degrade. Those suppliers that add extra iron hedge their bet against capacity. The secondary ingredients, that control the thermal/chemical reaction are important, and I agree with you, to minimize the exposure to the air, but in almost every test, it takes days for the absorber to reach its potential and in most cases the potential is multiplied by a factor of three. My greatest concern are those manufactures and suppliers who disregard US law on packaging and fail to disclose country of origin and rated contents and capacity. Thank you for your comments.

why are you using a scale, which measures in grams, and saying milliliters? seems you are mixing weight and volume.

@Philat4800feet

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, that was a senior moment and didn't catch it until later. I did enter cc's on the screen for clarification.

Maybe this was a passing problem. I've used their bags and no problems noted.

@Philat4800feet

6 ай бұрын

More of a problem with their OAs

I watched many prepper/ food storage shows highly recommending Wallaby brand, so i purchased them last week will arrive soon, this is very disappointing considering so many say these are the best brand.

@Philat4800feet

Жыл бұрын

I have no problems with their bags. I don't like their oxygen absorbers.

@ArtisanSoapmaking

Жыл бұрын

@@Philat4800feet very grateful for your videos

at 5:53, at the bottom of the FAQ, it tells you that these are polyester film bags..

@Philat4800feet

Жыл бұрын

That revelation goes back to the phase- Mylar is a polyester but polyester isn't Mylar.

@matttaylor3242

Жыл бұрын

@@Philat4800feet Very thankful that you take the time and energy to go through these tests, and show consumers like me which products are great, and which are not so great. I've seen others talk about having obtained these bags and considered them myself - I would probably go about a purchase from Wallaby with the thought that I'd need OAs from another source :) Thanks Phil!

@Shasra1

Жыл бұрын

I just received wallaby bags with 400 cc O2 absorbers in Canada and they are the small ones too!! Thankfully I found your video before I had used too many and only for organic wheat. I probably will be complaining in the reviews!

@Philat4800feet

Жыл бұрын

@@Shasra1 Those didn't test well.

We came across this video 3 months after it was produced. Funny, obviously, we just wasted money on Wallaby products. We might as well throw out all the food we freeze dried. We can not recoup our time or electricity used, unfortunately. Possibly we should just give up freeze drying all together, because we make bad choices in bags and 02 absorbers. Thank you for opening our eyes.

@Philat4800feet

Жыл бұрын

Don't toss your food! The Wallaby bags aren't that bad. I would test one bag of FD food with the greatest oil/fat content. If there aren't any signs of rancid food, mold, or smell in that bag, I would vacuum pack the remaining bags. There's a solution to your problem.

Why don't you ever show hundreths of a gram in your weights? I noticed it in the last video when you said so n so is suppose to weight 1.6g then claimed it only shows 1 gram. Will of course it's not going to more than that 1 g of it's suppose to be 1.6 and you have it only set to grams without10ths and 100ths.

@Philat4800feet

Жыл бұрын

Hmmm. I'll need to go back and see what I said. My scale only goes to the nearest gram weight.

At least you didn't use bathroom scale. Pretty unprofessional approach. You know there are scales, that are 0,001g resolution, and not expensive at all ?

@Philat4800feet

4 ай бұрын

Grams work well.

@pawelsokolowski

4 ай бұрын

@@Philat4800feet The resolution of your analyzis is 25%. Really well, congrats.

poor audio

@Philat4800feet

2 жыл бұрын

Sorry- Poor equipment

This is not what you get from Wallaby

@Philat4800feet

Жыл бұрын

The products I tested, in my video, were from Wallaby's. They were tested under the same conditions as the other products. The testing equipment has no agenda, and neither do I.

Its realy maide in china with fancy packageing but the content is not a quality product. Typical chines products.

@Philat4800feet

6 ай бұрын

Most "Mylar" products made in China are not Mylar, but polyester film. They still work. Just not Mylar.

@elio9207

6 ай бұрын

@@Philat4800feet what brand is the original mylar bag. Or where can we order the original mylar bag instead of polyster.??

I am very happy with my Wallaby Mylar bags and have been using them for over a year with absolutely no issues. I think you are getting kick backs or paid from Harvest RIGHT. Also see no long term food storage videos just harvest right content. Seems strange you promote them so much but attack other companies. You claim “science” but you tested only 2 absorbers and that is not statistically significant. You can decide to bash some companies and not others. I

@Philat4800feet

Жыл бұрын

I get no compensation from any manufacture or distributor of Mylar bags or oxygen absorbers. I have no issues with the bags from Wallaby, however, they were not able to prove if the bags were really Mylar, a film manufactured by Dupont, or standard polyester film. You are correct, and I mentioned this in the video, that I would have to perform several hundred tests on the millions of absorbers manufacture by BCTC- China. I tested two out of 50 absorbers. Both the tests failed to achieve 500cc. Thes odds are terrible. If you review the other comments, this issue is not isolated. As far as Harvest Right, many of my videos are critical of their design issues. Again, I get no compensation, but I have Beta tested their programs. Wallaby is my fourth review. I have two more reviews to release soon. When I need more supplies, I will buy from a company I haven't purchased from before. My focus on Harvest Right is due to my ownership of their equipment. My goal in all of this is to educate. If you watch my videos and learn one thing that betters your life, then I have achieved my goal.

@leroyjenkins9462

Жыл бұрын

@@Philat4800feet The oxygen absorbers you tested are 400cc not 500cc as mentioned. I am in a community of thousands of preppers and everyone highly praises Wallaby, so this still makes me think you have a MOTIVE to attack them. It is clear from Amazon reviews that people do not have these issues, but you single them out but praise their competition. You also make false claims about "Chinese" companies with similar packaging. Highly skeptical overall. I think there is something odd with you attacking brands as many of these brands are top rated and it gets you attention and views. I wish less people would attack good companies trying to help. Maybe you should contact these companies to comment on these topics to understand if you have a concern and you can actually help them solve to make better solutions instead of trying to cause financial problems for American companies when we are already losing so much of our economy overseas...

@shawnsullivan7116

Жыл бұрын

@@leroyjenkins9462 mr. leroy no offence but you sound like people that buy auto insurance and never had an accident and tell everyone how great they are never having tested them to see how well they handle your claim if you hit someone, you just know how friendly they are at taking your money. have you tested your packets to see if you are getting what you are paying for? when I get mine I test one ( it dosn't matter who it is from ) if it meets or exceeds the test then the rest are probably OK, if it fails I would check another and if it fails the package goes back to the buyer. last thing I want is to seal a bunch of 5 gallon bags put in the minimum 2000cc packets in and finding out they are half what they should have been and my food is bad 5 or so years down the road. trust but verify my freind